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Good day, everyone! God made it. Let us rejoice and be glad in it!

What stands out to me in this chapter is how God swore and oath to himself while Abraham was deeply asleep. To me, this means that the covenant and promise cannot be broken, because God is always true to His Word.

For my husband and I, conceiving children did not come quickly. It took more than a year for the first two and over 6 months for the third. So, at that time, I remembered how Abraham had already waited many decades to have a child without conceiving and then, after the promise, another 25 years went by before Sarah conceived Isaac.

I love the read about the faith of Abraham, after so many years of not conceiving, to believe what God then promised despite all "odds". And then he had to keep believing for 25 years! Although Ishmael was conceived perhaps a decade before Isaac, but he was not the child promised. Sarah and Abraham tried on their own counsel to bring a child into their lives. That did not turn out very well for everyone, as we will read in future chapters.

For us, we prayed and believed that God would answer our prayers in His timing, and he did. But we also have known people that prayed for a child and never conceived. They were able to adopt a child. They were blessed in a different way. But the waiting can be painful, as those around you are conceiving right away and have children already in their homes. So, for anyone who is not conceiving as they planned, I pray for comfort and assurance from the Lord that he will chose wisely for you. It's a difficult time to endure. Having my three sons and having had the pleasure of being home full-time to raise them up was wonderful. I have always wished I could have more than three, but pregnancy and childbirth posed serious danger for each of my sweet boys. After a year of pray and seeking God about having more children, we felt led to cease having children. That was a very difficult decision for us. Yet, we were blessed with 3

The Mockingbird can mimic other bird sounds! God wants us to do and live exactly like He did and does. Also he used the Mockingbird to tell me to move from Louisiana to Texas. The Mockingbird is as I found out 10 years later the STATE BIRD OF TEXAS! Praise Jesus! Acts 2:38

Landon

Where in the bible does it talk about Satan and a third of the angels cast out of heaven

Bro Dan The problem with the countries and our country is the bowing down to other gods there fore the True God cannot give them fruitful abundance of food to bless them instead nothing but extremes drought or flood because they have abused that which God has given them and are living absolutely ungodly lives. Jesus Christ fed thousands with little proof that The true God meets the need and God is a God of total abundance when His Word is believed and lived.

is this the same pharaoh from gegesis

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Gentle readers in Christ Jesus, I read in US news a little about a concern amongst some conservative parents that children are being taught conformity. However much written here on this website about the Spiritual Kingdom; it appears that non-conformity to the world is considered works. How is it that the born again Christian expects unconverted teachers with worldly knowledge to teach (works) non-conformity to the world when many Christians consider the practice there of works?

In kindness.

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This story tells the answer: the Rich man never helped anyone; he didn't obey God. He died in his sins and went to hell.

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this FLAME.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

Visit the red link page and read through BECOME A CHRISTIAN link, when you are ready to receive Jesus as Savior and Lord of your life.

No. Everyone must be saved through Jesus Christ. Read this slowly ok?

JOHN 3

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

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That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

On the red link page where you came in the website: is a link BECOME A CHRISTIAN. You can pray to God and He will hear you. Your name will be recorded in the Book of Life.

CONTINUED ON REVELATION 20:10 . The righteous will witness false believers rejecting the testing of the Stone. The fire will witness that He has not made a mistake in judging the lost. If He could make a mistake about someone's salvation among the lost, the fire could have no effect on them, the fire cannot destroy the gold of redemption which is in Christ. I can understand the horror and grief as the redeem see that there is no possibility for loved ones to be saved. As terrible as this testing is, God has made clear that He judged correctly. Then He wipes away all tears from our eyes, and we leave behind all that we experienced in this world of sin, For God also wipes away our sins. Jeremiah 31:34



"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD : for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD ; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

When God chooses not to remember something, it cannot exist anywhere. What a God!

Hi Chris-Here's my understanding of the Greek word for "torment," in Revelation 20:10. First, I have read this passage many times (who doesn't read Revelation many times?) This is what struck me. Why are the wicked raised from the dead? Haven't they been previously judged at this time? What is God's purpose in casting them into the Lake of fire? Most all believers have family members and close friends who we thought would be in the kingdom. Why do the righteous in the Holy City have to see people we love about to face their eternity in the fire?

As you pointed out, the word in Greek is ""basanisthesontai." Strong's NT 928. It is associated with NT 931, a "Touchstone." It is also related to the ancient word for "testing," This where I saw the full impact of Rev 20:10. Their torment is related to testing them. Jesus says in Rev 3:18, "Buy of Me gold tried in the fire."

In 1 Corinthians 3:10-14, Paul refers to this time of testing by fire. It will reveal "every man's work," as to the person's true character. And only precious metal will survive the fire. In ancient Greek, NT 931, "Touchstone" was a "Lydiam stone" used by assayers to determine the value of certain metals (gold and silver). As the assayer pressed the metal against the stone, it would leave a streak that determined its value. Luke 20:17, Jesus mentions that He is the "Stone" Israel rejected. The Geek word for stone is, "Lithos," or Lydiam, the stone used by assayers."

My question at this point was, "Why does God test the lost in Rev 20:10? He knows who are His and those that don't belong to Him. Therefore, the testing must be for the redeemed! The only scenario I see is that God wants the redeemed to know why their loved ones are not saved. He does not want the saved to raise the question of, "Will the possibility of sin ever occur again in the New Earth? Basically, this testing time demonstrates that the lost do not want to follow or worship Christ. CONTINUED...

Hi Tina Look at ecclesiastes 9:5+6 We are asleep or dead until if your born again when christ returns for his body we rise up to meet him in the air all others will be raised in the judgement in revelation the just and unjust.

Hi David,

If I may, I have heard other people say what you are saying and they feel there was a gap between Gen. 1:1 and Gen.1:2, if I understand correctly what you are saying, forgive me if I am wrong. If we use Revelation 12 for this event we have to say Satan does not have access to heaven to accuse us day and night. We see in Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 Satan has access to heaven and God, also he is the great accuser he accuses us before God day and night.

In Revelation 12:8 when he is cast down to earth there will be no place found any more in heaven. This will be permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven and we are warned of how bad this will be on earth, Revelation 12:12. In the Greek text, at the end of Revelation 12, Satan is the one standing on the sand when the beast in Revelation 13 rises out of the sea (bottomless pit)

I also believe people were before Adam and Eve, but another understanding. I believe the six days of creation were exactly the way it is written. Six 24 hour days and God said it was good at the end of each day, without any gaps, no evolution, and then the seventh day God rested from his work and blessed the seventh day.

I hope you take this in love, for you to look and study not as a debate.

God bless,

RLW

praise paul forall his journies and preaching the word of God yo all peoples who were in need of his effort.. yhank you J ESUS AND PAUL for grace to us.... A men and Amen.. take care and give care

This account of the confusion of languages at Babel and the dispersing of peoples throughout the world is instructive. God have commanded that people fill the peoples in Babel knew this command because it was expressed in the explanation of why they endeavored to build the tower to the heavens. They desired to remain together and the civilization that existed at this time promoted this. The spread across the world perhaps was inevitable as populations increased to need migration further away from the centralized hub of civilization. However, these people did not want to do what God had commanded and they thought they could resist God's actions by building this tower. isn't that the story of mankind down through the ages? trusting man's wisdom and innovation over God's directions and will? makes me wonder how much I have leaned on things man has developed or promoted rather than seeking God's direction first. I pray to live a more thoughtful life day by day as I hope to seek God's will in ALL things.

Some say that the world's land mass was centralized at this time and began to break apart and drift into two hemispheres. This could explain how easy it would have been for these generations to spread out and inhabit all lands of the earth. The breaking apart of the continents would have provided obstacles that allowed peoples to become isolated and develop genetic characteristics, lifestyles, and cultural traditions specific to their areas of habitation.

Also, the presence of similar societal laws, architectural structures, religious practices across the globe from ancient past seems to harken back to a common civilization at one time, which would be here in Mesopotamia.

I have wondered if Noah had any written account of life pre-flood or made any post flood that were passed down to his descendants. If so, they must have gotten lost at some point, as Moses was the one who put these Scriptures in writing.

I think it highly likely that pre-flood peoples had writings.

Agreed. Science may be able to explain some of the phenomena in the Bible, but that does not negate the work and words of our God as He communicates His will to us and shows us things for us to learn and grow in grace and wisdom.

Thank you for your reply. Some timelines have Noah alive for about 65 years during Abraham's life and some have him dying before. Shem, it seems, outlived Abraham into Jacob's day. Sad that the Word does not record more about this if there was significant interactions between Abraham and kin, and Shem and his kin. Perhaps Shem and his kin remained in the area around the ark, since Noah was a farmer, but some of his descendants migrated southward to Mesopotamia. I doubt that Shem lived in the area of Ur due to the idolatry of the Chaldeans, but perhaps he may have ventured to Haran.

I do not think that Shem was Melchezideck due to what is said in Hebrews about shem having no descendency from parents, but hinted about His eternality. Be blessed by your studies of God's Word and through sincere discussions about matters in the text, like we are having. It is helpful.

Hi Ronald What I have read about melchisedec in the description what I see is God spoke priest into being and why not that's why he's God and that's why He knew who Abram was and who called Abram out.

Greetings Chris.

Thanks for your perspective. I have wondered what the state of the landscape appeared when Noah disembarked from the ark. You may be right. With God nothing is impossible and He blessed Noah, so He may have had the area around Noah be already habitable or perhaps the whole world. I just think that it may have been likely that the landscape was stark and fairly void of vegetation to drive home the point of how serious and grave the situation was among mankind before the flood and how thorough God's judgement can be. Thanks for reminding me about the time of year being spring according the the Jewish calendar. They most likely had some food still stored in the ark to get them through the growing season or God simply provided for them like the Israelites in the desert wanderings.

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your viewpoint. I just happen to believe that God is the one to determine when the world is filled to the point to fulfill His will in His command, not us. God never promised that everyone would be housed or well fed or safe from harm in the world. Deaths from hunger, disease, war, natural disasters, etc. are the result of the world still being under the curse of death from Genesis 3.

My sister in law is from Africa and she has given me a view into life there in her country. Because of tribalism, people will help those of their own tribe , but not those of other tribes. Many children are orphaned due to AIDS and death from other diseases. These children are taken in for the night by members of their village or tribe, but put back out onto the streets during the day. Many countries have surpluses of foods, but the food isn't distributed due to politics, laws, or corruption at the point of delivery if sent to needy areas of our world. This is all a result of sin, not overpopulation.

We may be getting close to the "filled" point in this generation. Revelation speaks of a 1/3 of the world's population dying as a result of one of the "bowls" being poured out. We should remain awake and watchful, as Jesus said.

I believe it is the "wisdom of the world" that sounds the alarm about overpopulation for the past 50 years or so. As Christians, I believe we should know God's will by knowing what He has declared in His Word and acting according to His will, not by what the world's "geniuses" scream about such matters.

Hi Langtu Your answer genesis 4:25+26

The downfall in Genesis God created man in His Image in the beginning Gods Image is Spirit I.E. John 4:24 not flesh and blood he formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into him the breath of life and man became a living soul. The teaching the seeds of death were put in man is false, Gods spirit which is life giving and life energizing is what Adam and Eve lost their spiritual connection with God for disobedience. That's why they became full of fear and no longer had soundness of mind. That's what is stated in 2 Timothy 1:7 that God has not given us fear but power and love and sound mind. In Genesis after the fall God lovingly had to clothe them and prepare them for the world they had to face because of their disobedience. Eve when she bare Cain thought she bore a child from God but in contrast became the first murderer, he wasn't born that way he became that way. When you look up the descendants of cains line or men who as it says in Jude verse 11 the ones who went the way of cain these are men who got spiritually born of the wicked one not by physical seed it is spiritual, that is why in John 8:44 Jesus Christ said to these spiritually corrupt men ye are of your father the devil it is not a physical birth it is a spiritual birth. That's also why he said you will die in your sin they are unredeemable. In the old testament they were men of belial or worthless men or men of the earth. This is all part of our spiritual battle. Some will disagree with this and that's there privilege. Just keep something in mind everything the true God has done the enemy tries to duplicate.

Thank you for taking the time to read my posts. They are wordy, but I hope they are helpful to others as I write my "musings" through Genesis, perhaps bringing something fresh to the discussion. God bless you.

That I may be more like my Savior Jesus the Christ and exhibit His characteristics and trates in my life to all people at all times in all situations.

sorry but i though t i was commenting to another church but the blessings that i spoke over the intended church is for you as well.

GOD bless(es ) and keeps You

Numbers 6:24-27

Grateful that you all are back into your building.

I listen to you weekly with my brother Kenneth Hall (Tracy) as he is one of your members.

We enjoy both Your Sercive And ours, Restoration Foursquare Church, Madison Al.

GOD bless(es) you.

GiGi,

Loving your posts, there is much we can see that relates to us today. What is amazing there were 1656 years from the creation of Adam to the flood and only 4 chapters of Genesis from Adam and Eve leaving the garden until Noah went into the ark. Like you said many stories about Ham seeing his father naked and the curse on Hams son Canaan. It may be; God had blessed Noah and his sons and Noah could not curse what God had blessed.

We see later the land promised to Israel was Canaan. And today Israel has just a small portion of the land God promised Abraham. We know that will be fixed in the future. Another amazing thing is the time after the flood I feel the earth was renewed, remember the little dove brought back to Noah an olive leaf that was plucked off a tree.

I know we think what this earth would look like after a worldwide flood all the fertile land covered in mud muck and debris it would be unlivable. If God can bring the waters together into this sphere and cause the land to appear and be covered with grass, herbs, and fruit trees in a 24-hour time, He can restore the earth for Noah and all the animals to start over. If the seasons were the same the second month when they came out of the ark it would be springtime.

Noah was born 1056 years from the creation of Adam and he died 950 years old, that would have him alive when Abram was born 1948 years from the creation of Adam and Noah lived 58 years after Abram was born, he saw 9 generations, wow. It seems incredible it was only 292 years from the flood when Abraham was born.

Terah took Abram, Sarai, and Lot to Haran and when God called Abram to get out, Abram was only 75 years old. The earth was divided in the days of Peleg that would be between 1757 when he was born and 1996 from the creation of Adam when he died, makes you wonder who knew who, Shem was still living when Jacob was born, some say he was Melchizedek but I don't know about that.

God bless you,

RLW

Today, I'm meditating and praying that God's Holy Spirit will provide for understanding of this verse spoken by Paul:

Philippians 2:12

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

So far, the way I read and understand it: Paul is asking us to "take action", and this seems to contradict the large and loud crowd that continues to loudly express: " Faith+Grace and nothing else."

God Bless.

I love God and my question is everyone going to heaven?

What chapter tell you what happing when u die?

Amos 5:4-15 on seeking the Lord to live is a lesson for today.

Acts 17:27

Jeremiah 7:25

Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them..

Amos 7:14-15

I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the Lord took me as I followed the flock, and the Lord said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel..

Amos 3:8

The Lion has roared, who will not fear?

Amos 4:12

Prepare to meet thy God, O Israel..

Amos 8:2

Then said the Lord unto me; The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them anymore..

Philippians 3:10

That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection..