Discuss Deuteronomy 24 Page 2

"THE LAW" as referred to by Jesus is the 10 Commandments..it doesn't say anything about stoning anyone in this LAW.

Jesus did not let the adulteress get stoned in the scripture below:

John 8:2-10 Context

2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

In scripture, Jesus and his apostles refer many times to keeping the 10 commandments. Here are two verses spoken by Jesus

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 15:10

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

As Christians .if we keep God's commandments, we WILL NOT kill or stone anyone. The 6th Commandment: THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

Matthew 5:18. Is saying that God's 10 commandments are in force until the end of this earth.

God Bless

Hi Paul,

Notice that what you said in your sentence is not what Matthew 5:18 says. The verse says 'til all be fulfilled' not 'end of time' as you said.

The Bible says Jesus came to earth to fulfil the law. Hover or click on this for proof: Matthew 5:17. Note that Jesus came after the Israelites and after the Old Testament was written.

Jesus's mission was to die for the sins of the world. John 3:16

Notice that after Jesus completed his mission he said 'it is finished': John 19:30.

So, Jesus fulfilled the law. People had lots of laws then including Israelites who had nearly 1000 laws, not just moral, but civil and ceremonial. They were huge in number and governed themselves like a country.

However, even though Jesus fulfilled the law, we are still obligated to follow the moral law. John 14:15. Example: do not kill, lie, cheat, worship false gods, commit sexual immorality, blasphemy, etc.

They did stoning back then. Public stonings are still done today in places in the middle east.

The Bible does not instruct Christians to stone anyone. One must differentiate what is moral law that applies to 'me' and what was a civil or ceremonial law that only applied to a people group at that time. Israelites were God's chosen people so they were given different attention than others as well.

Jesus says that not a single letter of the law will be changed until the end of time. Matthew 5:18

How does this apply to stoning adulterers and homosexuals as outlined in Deuteronomy and Leviticus?

Deut 24:16.

Ok, we may not kill a father or son for the others sins but may we sanction them in other less lethal ways?

From what you have written, you are still married to your wife, in spite of her infidelity. She would need to acknowledge her sin of unfaithfulness to you, repent, be restored back to God & of course, be restored back to you, if you wish to receive her back.

However, if you mean that you both have divorced & she has gone to another man & has subsequently left him, then you cannot re-marry her. There is no New Testament instruction on this matter (that I can remember), but certainly an Old Testament directive by God concerning a man finding uncleanness in his new wife (i.e. she was found to be impure/not a virgin), & he divorced her for that reason. Subsequently, after her second husband dies or divorces her, her first husband is warned that it would be a great sin to receive her back into marriage with him. ( Deuteronomy 24:1-5).

Both parties in this instance, would do well to continue to remain single, bring all their matters, hurts & needs before the Lord, & then press on in the pathway of devotion and service to the Lord. Even though such marital problems can bring on much hurt & distress, the ministry of God's Spirit is very real to bring about healing, forgiveness & full mental & spiritual restoration. Many people often bypass God's requirements, treating the sanctity of marriage with disdain, and sadly do so to their greater hurt.

In the context of that chapter in Deuteronomy, "stranger" would apply to someone not in the farmer's family & specifically to any passer-by or one who might be hungry & has no store of food. The Israelite farmer is instructed to not pick the olive or grapes till all the edibles are removed from the tree/vine, but to leave some behind for the passer-by, the widow & the orphan who may not be able to buy food. This was a small & subtle way of sharing something of what we possess to help others.

What do they mean by stranger here? On verse 20 and 21 and 23.

All the reformers agreed the Anti Christ is the Papacy.

Just talk to an attorney. You don't want him to take you to court to pay your part of rent or file on you for abandonment of financial stuff like credit card balances. See if you have Legal Aid in your town? Be smart. Don't date till it's all over legally.

I understand what you said but it is the husband that has been cheating and once the wife found out he was very upset She found out and said for her to leave For snooping into his things and paid to get her stuff out that night.

does that not technically be considered him divorcing her and does not want her in the house if he kicks her out. Then he files divorce on the courts next week

So if she talks to another man in between time then is she in the wrong?

This was the Lord's directive concerning a lawful divorce. In the event that a man finds 'uncleanness' in his (new) wife, then he is permitted to give her a letter of divorce absolving the marriage. The word 'uncleanness' is from the Hebrew, 'erwat', which allows for past lewdness, present indecency or shameful exposure. Such a character history can be grounds for divorce & she is therefore forced to leave the house. No alimony involved here - she's out on her own & probably has to endure family rejection as well.

So, she runs into the arms of another man & guess what? He finds out that she has been less than honourable, so he boots her out as well. Verse 4 then says that the first husband is not permitted to take her back again because she has been defiled by the second. For some unknown reason the first husband might want her back - they never learn. No waiting period is seen here - she just has to flit around until someone doesn't pick up on her past history.

Sounds too loose. Get an attorney as soon as possible.

Question?

The verse Deuteronomy 24:1, If a man has a wife and sends her out of the house with cussing words and violence and states she is no longer welcome and pays for her to move out of house and divorce. Is she free to be with another man? Is there a waiting period before she speak too or be with another man?

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing,

and obtaineth favour of the Lord.

Proverbs 18:22 | KJV

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Matthew 19:4-6 | KJV

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

Colossians 3:18-19 | KJV

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Hebrews 13:4 | KJV

Who can find a virtuous woman?

for her price is far above rubies.

Proverbs 31:10 | KJV

A man's heart deviseth his way:

but the Lord directeth his steps.

Proverbs 16:9 | KJV

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

Ephesians 5:25-26 | KJV

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Corinthians 7:2 | KJV

And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Genesis 2:18 | KJV

When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

Deuteronomy 24:5 | KJV

And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Genesis 2:22-24 | KJV

Wives, submit you

Yes I love reading what everyone has written here. We do need prayer from all..God help us all to have understanding of your word so we can walk like Jesus and knowing that no one comes to the father but through your son Jesus Christ. God give love to all. Thank you Leah

Philippians 3:2 and Revelation 22:15

Beware of dogs ( Gal. 5:15), beware of evil workers, beware of the concision ( Romans 2:28)

Revelation 22:14-15.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates Into the city.

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

You have to stop and ponder on what real dogs do. Their noses are always where they shouldn't be, etc.

It's stunning to ponder. I've worked with people like that. Run in packs; respect nothing; have to be the king of the pack.

I said it was brutal.

A spirit is a demon; dog spirit.

I would like to start out by thinking each and everyone who have shared and given me the time to read some of your comments. It's not every day that i take time to set and read bible verses and spend time with my father. although I pray and ask him to use me, I surrender, God is a merciful God and I want to spend more time with him and doing his will. just as you have given me a chance to comment there are other brothers and sisters out there, that God want to reach though us by commenting and connecting each of us to his will.

Though God I can do all things

God is good!

Hi Carol, you are allowed to remarry the person should you wish. It is only when your ex had remarried after your divorce, get divorced again, that he MAY NOT marry you. So if there was no other marriage in between, you are allowed to remarry him. If will thus be your free will...Shux who ever does that is a much person than me...I could never !!!!! If you could live with it, it is no problem. Hope it helps Carol. All my Jesus love !!!!

Hi, I believe that that wad an act of unbelive, that they did not believe Father's Word and serious consequences to disobedience. I dont believe that Father would expect a person to take ones ex-husband back if he had slept with another woman. That person made a bad choice and one has to forgive, but apply ones one free will and not obliged.

Thank you

Jesus reigns

Divine Princess:

There is an example. Abraham and Sarah. She thought she was too old to get pregnant. She gives Haggar her maid to Abraham to obtain a child. Haggard has a baby, Ishmael. Nothing is said about any other relations between Abraham and Haggar once she was pregnant. I have no idea if that was a custom "on the book".

Genesis chapter 16

Hi CAROL ! Has anybody answered you yet wrt to your question ? I would also love to know. I hope the answer is NO. That Father would not expect a woman to take back her ex-husband if he had slept with another woman.

Being in transition of my purpose in life, my body is as assenital as the mind. So by far fasting is rebirth of the digestive system, so my ? is the consumption of pork now different from teachings of the old testament than new?

Freemasonry is of the Devil. Get out while you can.

These were laws for the Jewish people. Jesus fulfilled the laws when he died on the cross. Don't bog your lives down by trying to live by the laws. Follow the Pauline principles for how to conduct your lives as Christians saved by grace.

Hi Stangett, it seems like I was your confused in regard to some Scriptures, My confusion was mostly because of the contradictions with some who Taught it but I was ok with others. The Lord showed me the need to ask for His Wisdom which none of us were Born with Proverbs 4:7 - James 1:5 I than started to understand His Truth although I'm still learning the confusion is gone. Blessings - Anne.

1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. Jesus didn't even believe in this verse.

Right, God's word doesn't contradict itself, yet the New Testament does, why? Because it's a book that is a product of Freemasonry. The name of our redeemer and savior is, "The Lord of HOsts," as it's stated in Isaiah 43, and so forth in the Old Testament. Not "Jesus Christ", realie that and take heed. It's your choice. Jesus Christ can be considered a graven image, and it is by God. Wake up

Despite hearing and reading God's word I remarried. While in the second marriage, I realized how I had sinned. I remarried because I was saying to the Lord Jesus that I did not trust him to take care of me as a single woman. My actions said that I did not believe everything in the Bible. Maybe, without realizing it, I may have said to the Lord I do not Love you. I had to repent. Forgive me Lord.

It was David's sin that caused such pain, he thought he could hide it, he knew in his heart he couldn't, he loved God with all his heart soul and might and nor can we. Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.