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Chuck; Is that how you think the Lord deals with you? Why then do you cut to pieces a brother and sister? The Sword of the Spirit has two edges; and is given for spiritual battle against principalities and powers of the rulers of the darkness of this age. Too many NEW Believers inexperienced, proud and unloving, in zeal without knowledge,

" I have called by name Bezaleel...I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise cunning works...and in the hearts of all that are wise hearted I have put wisdom, that they may make all that I have commanded thee;" All wisdom, understanding and skill comes from God's Spirit that He puts in us! See John 1:3-4

the sabbath cannot redeem you from hell or jesus blood
you are a lost legalist religionist who have a woks salvation
this is scripture to back up what i am saying.
colossians 2-16 let no man judge you in meat or in drink
or in respect of an holy day,or a new moon,or of the
sabbath. revelation 1-10 john was in the spirit on the
lords day does not say sabbath, the early church
broke bread 1st day.

@Irene123 Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
The definition of "perpetual" Never ceasing; continuing forever in future time; destined to be eternal; as a perpetual covenant; a perpetual statute. Nowhere in the Word does the Holy Ghost replace His own commandments.

We are to keep the Sabbath!! Sabbath is Friday sunset to Saturday sunset ...not Sunday!!!

Sabbath is only for the children of Israel

The Sabbath is Saturday, the last day of the week of the Jewish calendar, and begins on Friday at sundown and goes until Saturday at sundown. The worship on Sunday began as a pagan day of worship of the sun god-Baal. The Roman church picked Sun-Day as the day of worship to appeal to what the pagans were already doing on the day set aside to worship the sun-Baal.

Hey Brenda,
Jesus Christ clearly said "If you love me keep my commandments." As well as, he was here to fulfill the law not destroy it. We should Keep the Sabbath Holy (Saturday)
Sunday is only kept because the Roman Empire merged all faiths into their system to keep the peace. Since the Roman Catholic Church is the Roman Empire they changed the holy day to "SUN" day. Against God's will.

In my research I've found that the Romans, during this time, made it a law that "everybody" would worship on Sunday only and anybody caught or if it was rumored that anybody was worshiping on the Sabbath, which the Romans knew was known to be a holy day for Jews and Hebrews, were put to death in public to instill fear to others. The Romans were very brutal, violent and controlling.

Why does everyone think that it is ok to ignore the Sabbath Day, but keep the other commandments?
If the Sabbath Day was nailed to the cross; then why not murder, theft, adultery, etc...?
If the Lord said: "Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy." There must be something to this.
I read that Sunday, is a pagan day set aside for the sun god. (sun day)

Chapter 31:4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,

Dewey...this is my last comment to you concerning the Sabbath. Yes, we are under a new covenant because we are no longer under the law of Moses. Christ fulfilled the law when He was crucified. However, the ten commandment law was not Moses 's law but was written with the finger of the Most High God! Why is it okay to break one of the commandments and not all? Is it okay to worship other gods, to commit adultery, dishonor out parents, to kill or to steal? Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy was evidently just as important to God as the other commandments. Who is man no matter who that man is to decide it is okay to change God 's Sabbath?

Martha Prince, for the sake of argument God did rest but not as we rest from getting tried. He set the Sabbath apart for his creation mankind to worship and honor him but also for the sake of mankind also Mk. 2:27. As for to the issue of us not seeing every thing God condone in the Scripture Jn. Said if all the things that Jesus did even the world would itself could not contain just the things Jesus Christ did in his public ministry which lasted a little over three years. The next thing we must consider is who 's calendar is being used here. 1 Cor.11:25, 26 says, "In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, This cup is the new Covenant in my blood do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me. V26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord 's death until he comes. 11 Cor. 3:6 says, "He has made us competent ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life ". We are now under a new covenant of grace and truth by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. God bless us all and in the understanding of his Word. Glory be to Jehovah in the highest through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!

Dewey...I understand God is God and does not need to rest but God did rest He rested on the seventh day. I also know Jesus said in Matthew 2:27 the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. My point is this God Himself clearly set aside the seventh day as far back as creation. I find no where in the scriptures that God Himself changed the seventh day Sabbath to the first day of the week.

Martha Prince, easily nothing existed on this earth before God created everything in six days Some people don 't believe in creation as actually six of our days, but I do. And God rested on the Sabbath day and hallowed it but he knew the future uses he would make of the sabbath for mankind. God does not get exhausted therefore he did not actually need to rest . God truly finished creating all he would create. Jesus Christ-who is God in the flesh or Son of God-said, I repeat in Mark 2:27 " the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath ". God bless us all and in the understanding of his Word. Glory be to Jehovah in the highest through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!

Dewey J...How do you explain Genesis Chapter 2? God wasn 't talking to the Jews or Christians! Genesis 2:1-3 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Neini Curulala, very interesting and controversial subject of the day Christians should observe the Sabbath. Let us remember that God is speaking to Israel or the Jewish nation in its infancy therefore they should observe the Sabbath on Saturday. The Christian church began in houses of Christians because the Jews kicked them out of synagogues. The Early Christians started to observe the Sabbath on the first day of the week which would be Monday on the Jewish calendar. Most Christians of the world observe and I can 't see from Scripture any better reason than to honor the resurrection day of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who himself fulfilled the whole law. As Jesus said in John 4:22 "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews ". But salvation is by Jesus Christ who came through the Jewish nation and is himself the salvation of mankind. Mark 2:27 Jesus said, "the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. Let us not be like the Pharisees which Jesus told in Matt. 23:24 "Ye blind guides, which strain at gnat, and swallow a camel ". God bless us all and in the understanding of his Word. Glory be to Jehovah in the highest through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!

13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. First I wish to confirm that Sabbath is Saturday and NOT Sunday. Sunday is the first day of the week the victorious day when Christ rose form the dead. Iam in awe at the emphasis and weighting put on this commandment and the repercussions if it is disobeyed. I truly want to make an effort to keep the Sabbath and offer apology for the past 62 years of disobedience. So help for God and have mercy.

Peter I cannot say what is right for you, but for me, I try very hard to keep Sunday as a day of rest reflection. Thererfore, I limit my physical activities to simple personal needs i.e. making pancakes. Remember, Jesus his disciples picked corn on the Sabbath because they were hungry. Also Jesus healed on the Sabbath saying something like "is it wrong to do good on the Sabbath? ". If my neighbor were in distress needed help on the Sabbath, I would gladdly help him. If the same neighbor wanted help in planting a garden on the Sabbath I would offer to help him the next day.

their generations, in the verse does that mean in the time of these people or was this changed in the new covenant? Exodus 31 16

Does mowing your lawn on Sunday count as work ? How about making pan cakes ? hope not. I did both last Sunday.

Besaleel and Aholiab were filled with the spirit of wisdom,understanding and knowledge to make what God commanded them in gold, brass and silver. When God gives us a duty to carry out He has also equiped us with all the neccessary resources to excel. When we are not achieving tangible result, perhaphs it is because we are not doing what God wants us to do or not doing it right according to His specifications. We need God 's direction before embarking in any work either secular or spiritual.

In regards to how one was suppose to die if they violated the Sabbath! Ones focus should be on the love of God and in keeping with that, Jesus came and died for us such that we do not have to suffer such things. Additionally, Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and as such, we are now justified by Him and through Him. Much like Jesus told the group of men who wanted to stone the adulterous woman, He said he did not condemn her. John 8:10 God is a God of love and as such gave His only Begotten Son to die in our place. I am personally thankful that Jesus gave me life. Jesus said Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27 . In so saying, Jesus wants us to worship the Father in Spirit, not in the letter of the law. John 4:23-24. To me, everyday is the Sabbath. Blessings,

31 vrs 14..how should a person who does not obey sabbath be killed

While it is true that Constantine made Sunday a Holy day, the early Church started meeting on Sunday soon after Jesus resurrected. For the record, the Sabbath was a requirement given to the Jews by God. He did not pass this along to the Gentile Nation. God said in Exodus 31:17 that it was a sign between Him and Israel forever. Secondly, scripture tells us not to judge a man in his Holy day ( Romans 14). I choose to make everyday Holy unto the Lord. Remember what Jesus said to the Pharisee's in Mark 2:27 "The Sabbath was mad for man, not man for the Sabbath". So if one chooses to worship God on Sunday, God will honor it. But I say again, worship God everyday because He and only He is deserving of our worship .

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Please note that the children of Israel were not even near being in existence when God created the Sabbath.

Folks, please note that the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week -SATURDAY and NOT Sunday. Sunday is the first day of the week and therefore not sacred. This day (Sunday) of sacredness has been put forward by the Catholic Church as a mark of their authority to act on the behalf of GOD (which is not so)and therefore false. God rested on the seventh day (Saturday) not because he was tired, but to set an example for us and reserved it as a day for us to meet and spend time with him leaving our cares for a while and rest both body and mind. Please research it in history and you will see that Constantine the emperor of Rome did this and searh the Catholic Catechisms - they don't deny it, instead they boast about it. They will tell you that all Sunday observers are just cheap Catholics etc etc etc.
Peace be to you all and GOD the Father, Jesus the Son and the Blessed Holy Spirit be with you all.

I am confused. If I go McDonalds on Sunday, does that mean the person who makes my Big Mac is going to hell ? I would feel very guilty if that is true.

Last Sunday I saw my neighbor Jim pruning some trees in his back yard. Concerned for his soul, I went over with my Bible and tried to explain that the Lord doesn't want him to work on the Sabbath and that he is at risk of being put to death. Instead of being grateful, he threw a branch at me, called me crazy and threw me off of his property. I went home and prayed for him.

Sabbath is one of the qualification to the soon coming city of Jerusalem