Even though it was God's will for Jesus to suffer and die, accountability still fell on those responsible for His death, as highlighted in ( Mark 14:21).
God's dispositional will reflects His attitude and what pleases or displeases Him. For instance, ( 1 Timothy 2:4) reveals God's desire for all to be saved and know the truth. This illustrates God's disposition towards the lost, emphasizing His desire for their salvation. Despite God's universal desire for salvation, not everyone chooses to accept it.
There is a distinction between God's dispositional will and His sovereign will.
In essence, the will of God comprises three elements: 1) God's sovereign will is manifested in His unchangeable decrees. He decreed that there be light, and there was light. , ( Genesis 1:3)-an illustration of His efficacious decree.
He permitted Satan to afflict Job And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. , ( Job 1:12)-an instance of His permissive decree. 2) God's revealed will is found in His precepts, provided to us so that we may live in holiness. We have the capacity (but not the right) to violate these commands. 3) God's dispositional will is His attitude. Sometimes, God ordains something that does not bring Him pleasure, such as the death of the wicked as seen in Ezekiel 33:11."
Fuji thank you for sharing John chapter 4. I can read this chapter and find so much wisdom.
I find this very interesting because Apostle Paul didn't baptize many people. " 1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ sent me not tobaptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. "
John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
It amaze me that she claim Jacob as of her father and was not even a Jew herself. " Romans 2:29
But he is aJew, which is oneinwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. "
John 4:12
Art thou greater than our fatherJacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
Because Jesus told her, she had five husbands, she believed the more. " Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of theLordare in every place, beholding theevilandthegood. "
John 4:18
For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly
When God made Adam and Eve, they were both soul and spirit first. God made them at the same time. " Genesis 1:27
So God createdmanin his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Jesus had a command to the twelve: " Matthew 10:5
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commandedthem, saying,GonotintothewayoftheGentiles, and into any cityoftheSamaritans enter yenot: "
John 4:27
And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
John 4:42
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
Hello Cheryl1655. I think you are asking about the connection between those two Genesis chapters & particularly those verses you gave. If so, the way I read these chapters, is that Genesis chapter 1 simply gives a brief overview of the six days of creation & the seventh day being the day when God ceased from His creative Work. So in Genesis 1:26,27, on the sixth day of Creation, God created man & woman & blessed them to be fruitful, to have dominion over creatures, & to eat what He has provided them.
Then in Genesis 2:4, after the 'generations of the heavens and of the earth were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens', God had seen fit to expand on certain aspects of those six days of creation in Genesis 1 (and specifically about how His Work of creating these perfect human beings came to be). Man was first formed from Earth's dust (v7) & then Woman was then formed from man's body; that they are not just two separate creations, but really two separate humans who are vitally & intrinsically connected to each other, causing them to have an abiding, loving & meaningful relationship, as they could have with no other creature.
So, I believe that these two chapters (on the creation of man & woman) are not two separate acts of creation by God, but only One. That the second chapter amplifies what God created on the sixth day, which then leads us into the following chapters of Genesis & the rest of the Bible on the lives of men & women and God's dealing with them, even until the end of time as we know it.
Trust YAH/GOD [ Proverbs 3:5-6] and go to HIS Word and let it lead you and guide you.
HE and HE alone IS the Great Physician [ Isaiah 53:5 & Psalm 103:3] although HE has HIS representatives on the earth, they are in the vast minority because as it is written satan has deceived the "whole" world [ Revelation 12:9]
Pharmakeia [pharmaceuticals] by its very definition in the Greek means witchcraft. [ pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.]
So be very discerning and ALWAYS ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF YAH for Wisdom [ James 1:5] that you may understand HIS Word to sift out truth from fiction or truth from half truths, that HE may guide your feet to [ Psalm 119:105] where HE may want you to go and to whom, if any, that HE may want you to go to.
Also that most of all, HE would teach you about the power and authority that HE has placed in you, even from the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4-6]; and which HE reinforced in the forming of the template [Adam] of material man [ Genesis 1:26 ] when HE [ELOHIM- I.E. THE PLURALITY OF HIMSELF] said Let US make man in our own image and likeness; and again when YESHUA/JESUS said that you can do all that HE does and even more [ John 14:12]
May YAH continue to Keep you. In YESHUA MIGHTY NAME.AMEN.
John 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." Apart from the work of Jesus Christ, every human is condemned to an eternity in hell ( Revelation 20:15). But God has freely offered the gift of heaven. What determines if a person goes to heaven or hell for eternity is whether that person has been reconciled to God through Jesus Christ ( Romans 4; Galatians 3:23-29; Hebrews 11).
Going to hell is the default position of humanity. Going to heaven is the free gift of God's grace, received by faith, offered to all people ( Ephesians 2:1-10). God wants people to be reconciled with Him, so He provided the way ( John 14:6). Every person is invited to go to heaven.
Going to heaven or hell has everything to do with God's act of rescue. When God created the world, everything was very good ( Genesis 1:31). He created humanity in His image. He provided food for them but told them there was one tree from which they were not allowed to eat. They were to trust His provision, follow His commands, remain in close relationship with Him, and experience fullness of life. But they were also free to disobey Him, which would result in death ( Genesis 2:15-17; Romans 6:23).God, I know that I have gone against your ways, that I rightly deserve condemnation. I know that you are loving, merciful, gracious, and just. I believe that you have made reconciliation possible. I believe that Jesus is the only Savior, and I submit to Him as Lord. I believe He is fully God, fully human, lived a perfect life, died on the cross for my sins, and rose from the dead bodily. I believe His sacrifice is sufficient for my sins.
Jesus as firstborn creation He spoke about this himself in details:
I found this scriptures:
Proverbs 8:22-31
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Jesus described what it was like to be with his Father and this scriptures is further proof that he is the "firstborn of all creation" .. "the beginning of the creation of God" It doesn't make sense if he is talking about himself. It's very descriptive. Which also made Genesis 1:26 - "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." His son was with him.
I'm slowly learning the verses of the Bible. Thought this is interesting. I want to find the truth :)
But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole.
Overcoming fear, sickening and death Relying on God's Love
Insurance of God
I John 4:18 KJV
Isaiah 41:10 KJV
Psalms 27:1 KJV
Deuteronomy 3:22 KJV
Assurance of God
Romans 8:31-39 KJV
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Ways you can rely on God's love and overcome sickness, and death are recognizing God's presence,. Trusting in his sovereignty, boistering our faith, and embracing his love. Reading your holy bilble, praying having thoughts of God that your heart will be at.( Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV)
Have healthy relationships with God enjoying healthy relationships with one another.
Having Christian morals, man and woman of you word and virtue. Always tell the truth. Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God. That God exists. You and your thoughts becoming existence/like God Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV, Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, daughter, or children.
What not to do to rely on God love and overcome fearsickness , and death is to be bitter and harm others, steal, cheat, liar, not working correctly.
I have believed Jesus Christ is God and have had faith practicing and speaking into existence these ways to rely on God's love and overcome fear ,sickness and death.
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I pray to God for those with unwavering faith, not steadfast, or in prayer God will help them, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God, (Christianity) listen to God, even be healed and saved.
Daniel 6:2, 3 which was Daniel excellency of spirit also shown in Daniel 1:17 ,10,11,14 which is Daniel deliverance,16,20,21,22 which is a plus added to you and positive difference, 23 Which is result evident My interpetation : "(token ) Psalm 112:3 KJV "Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty"
,27,28 KJV.
I believe Jesus Christ God as the Father and made in his image Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, to be blessed which is a plus My interpetation evident "(token ) Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" and to have what I say and want "( Psalm 112:3 KJV) of his New Convenant I am a Christian that practices reading my Holy Bible and praying bringing God glory and God's deliverance. which is a plus added to me to receive blessings and being a positive difference Philippians 4:6-8 NKJV 1 John 3:2 KJV my faith believing confirmed in me holy the identity Christian that allows me to be shown to have no challenges in relations in life .
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God. That God exists. You and your thoughts becoming existence/like God Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV, Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, daughter, or children.
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Continued: Daniel 6:22 KJV
that allows me to be shown to have no challenges in relations in life .
Ways you can have unwavering faith, steadfast having strength and God's protection ( Psalms 121:1-8 KJV) ( Daniel 12:1-4 KJV, ), God protects you fighting and defending for you and his anger is on adversity. Are to allow God attributes ( Galatians 5:22 KJV )to come within you receiving them mind, body, soul and spirit.
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God Genesis 1:27 KJV becoming his son daughter, or children.
Love and trust the Lord
Practice humility to God and in God.
Surround yourself and be in surroundings with goldy influences of (Christian- practices , a place , institution.)
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that allows me to be shown to have no challenges in relations in life .
Ways you can have unwavering faith, steadfast having strength and God's protection ( Psalms 121:1-8 KJV) ( Daniel 12:1-4 KJV, ), God protects you fighting and defending for you and his anger is on adversity. Are to allow God attributes ( Galatians 5:22 KJV )to come within you receiving them mind, body, soul and spirit.
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God Genesis 1:27 KJV becoming his son daughter, or children.
Love and trust the Lord
Practice humility to God and in God.
Surround yourself and be in surroundings with goldy influences of (Christian- practices , a place , institution.)
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My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
My writings:
Daniel was unwavering steadfast in prayer 3 times a day( Daniel 6:10 KJV) " This demonstrated God's power and faithfulness to those who trust in God." Which was miraculous Daniel 6:14 KJV, being evident My interpetation "(token )" Psalm 112:3 KJV Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" no scars which is today.
Evidence related scriptures: Daniel:3,4,5, 8,12,13,17 KJV
Daniel 6:2, 3 which was Daniel excellency of spirit also shown in Daniel 1:17 ,10,11,14 which is Daniel deliverance,16,20,21,22 which is a plus added to you and positive difference, 23 Which is result evident My interpetation : "(token ) Psalm 112:3 KJV "Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty"
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Daniel 6:2-3,10 11,14,16,20,21,22,23,27,28 KJV
Believing in God, and having unwavering faith , steadfast in prayer can help someone, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God (Christianity) even be healed and saved
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
I pray for those with unwavering faith ,not steadfast, or in prayer That God can help them, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God, (Christianity) listen to God , even be healed and saved.
I believe God as the Father and made in his image Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, to be blessed which is a plus My interpetation evident "(token ) Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" and to have what I say and want "( Psalm 112:3 KJV) of his New Convenant I am a Christian that practices reading my Holy Bible and praying bringing God glory and God's deliverance. which is a plus added to me to receive blessings and being a positive difference Philippians 4:6-8 NKJV 1 John 3:2 KJV my faith believing confirmed in me holy the identity Christian
John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Notice the three words "was." As I shared with you earlier, that has to do with the continuous existence in the past. That is what the Greek word represents. And notice the three different segments. In the beginning was the word. Secondly, the word was with God. And thirdly, the word was God.
In the beginning, and literally in the Greek text, there is no definite article "the." It is just EN ARCHAE, in beginning. There's a reason for that. It is because Genesis Chapter 1 Verse 1, in the Hebrew as well as the Greek translation, it reads "In beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
There is no word "the" in Genesis 1:1 either because it was not "the beginning," it was just beginning. And in the language of both Hebrew and Greek, that is a designation of at the time of creation.
So, in beginning, that is, at Genesis 1:1, was the Word. And again, the word "was" shows continuous existence and the word "Word" is the word LOGOS.
The LOGOS, the great thinker behind the universe was already in existence at the time of physical creation. That is, the creation of physical things as we know it. He was always in existence.
Secondly, and the word was with God. The word "with" represents a Greek phrase that means face-to-face with. And it is the Greek term for equality. To be face-to-face, eye-to-eye, shows equality.
And the word was God. Interesting that some people take these phrases and try to make something out of it that actually twists it away from its original intent. It says the word was God.
Notice our three principles:
Existence - at creation the word existed already.
Equality - and the word was with God, that is face-to-face equal to God.
And thirdly, and the word was God - Essence, nature, the very nature of God Himself.
Carleton, just so we're clear, the focal point of this thread is that we are comparing Christ nature and Adam's.
We're not talking about whether Adam was saved or not.
I believe Christ was God. That says enough about his nature.
I believe Adam was a living soul. Huge difference!
With that being said here's Your Quote.
" Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
This verse shows that Life is good, and it includes spiritual life as it is made in the likeness of the Spirit of God as everything was in the beginning. End quote.
Sorry Carleton but I can't agree with that.
For one, if Adam was created in the likeness of the Spirit of God, then there would be no need for a rebirth to enter the Kingdom of God.
The scripture is clear that the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45.
I believe Job 33:4 speaks of creation not salvation. God breathed in Adam nostrils, and he became a living soul.
God's creativity is the handiwork of the Spirit - the same Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation ( Genesis 1:2)
Christ was a quickening Spirit, clothed with light and gave us "including Adam" his spirit.
Satan was able to trip up Adam by way of Eve "his bride" because they were Naked.
Satan had power over Christ!
Satan goes after the bride Christ, but Christ is our shepherd, and we have his Spirit in us. We're clothed in Christ righteousness.
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. Isaiah 61:10.
I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?
In fact, the correct translation of Genesis 1:1 is not heaven(singular),but heavens(plural), according was said and revealed by own GOD to Moses. So for your own good and also of all readers here, and elsewhere, what matters and prevails is what GOD said to Moses, that is the original and true source. What did GOD reveal about heaven/heavens around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC, and Moses wrote, it is as follows:
Genesis - Chapter 1-2 - torah
Verse 1-In the beginning of GOD's creation of the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2-Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of the water.
By the way, heaven is a plant, understand? planted by GOD: Isaiah 51:16 combined with Ephesians 1:3-8, among many other biblical references.
16 -> And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
You called me rude, no poblem, it is the consequence of my zealous for the Word of GOD, the Truth. What does the Word of GOD say? Proverbs 27:6->Faithful are the wounds of a friend(or by who loves); but the kisses(something like panegyrize) of an enemy(of who annoy) are deceitful.
2Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Luke 19:48 - And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.
In the Greek it literally means they were hanging on every word that Jesus spoke. So of course, the religious leaders, they were trying to destroy Him. Yet all the people are just hanging on to every word that Jesus says. So, they were not able to take Him at this point.
Luke 20:9 - Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.
Husbandman means farmer. It was customary in those times that if you were going to leave your property, your agricultural property, that you would lease it out to other people. And the price for the land would be a percentage of the crops that the land would produce.
Luke 20:24 - Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
Show me a denarius, and remember that a denarius is one day's wage. Whose image and superscription has it? They answered and said, Caesar's. This is like taking one of our coins out. And He says whose inscription, whose superscription, whose picture is that on the coin? And they said it is Caesar's.
The word image in this text is the same one used in the Septuagint, the Old Testament. In Genesis 1:26-27, it says that man was made in the image of God. So, Jesus has this coin held up and He says whose image is on it? Caesar's!
Luke 20:46 - Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
Beware of the scribes. You would think that just on the surface that He is saying be careful about them. But literally the Greek word says observe yourselves from the scribes.
Make sure you don't get caught up in what they're getting caught up into. Don't watch out for them, you watch out for yourself. And He's telling the disciples.
Because Genesis said that God saw all that He had made and said it was good, the fall of Satan happened between that statement and when he tempted Eve into sin, in my opinion, unless God was talking about what He had created on the earth, exempting the angels, who sang with joy when the physical universe was made in Genesis 1:1. If the latter, then Satan could have fallen prior to the creation of the earth.
Scripture does not give specific details on when this occurred or whether the "Eden of God" was a heavenly abode which the earthly Eden represents the heavenly Eden.
This question is perplexing, and Christians have written and discussed this for many millenniums
I was only referring to Genesis 1:1 which you misquoted. We can disagree with one another, that's what discussion is all about but your attitude is rude and arrogant which I want no part of so I won't be doing any moe discussions with you.
I just thought I should mention to you that when you said that the bible says in Genesis 1:1 "in the beginning,GOD created the heavens and the earth," that actually, it says: In the beginning God created the heaven (singular) and the earth. The modern versions, which I believe are not Holy Ghost inspired like the KJB is, put an 's' implying plural heavens but the Holy Spirit wrote it as one heaven. God Bless :)
I like the way Gigi put it concerning Genesis 1:31.
"He made everything just the way he planned it".
Therefore he called it Good.
Including Satan and the Angels.
Good doesn't express behavior in these passages. It's accomplishing what was intended.
There is only one Good and that's God.
Adam shame and trying to cover his nakedness after his eyes were open to receive knowledge of Good and Evil testifies that he had a sense of awareness of his depravity and vulnerability. Not nudity.
If nudity being wrong was all he got out of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and that was sinful and valid then he wasn't made perfect. He didn't take clothes off, He was born Naked.
Adam hid himself from God because when his eyes were opened he saw himself with the knowledge he received from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
This Knowledge revealed to him that he wasn't Good. He's now realizes he's vulnerable.
Here's what he said; I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
This is in line with what nakedness means throughout the scripture.
Adam was a natural man, A empty vessel and naked.
How do you define sinless nature? Isn't it "someone's NATURAL reaction to not sin.
How could one with a sinless nature sin?
Or one with a sinful nature "NOT" sin?
I would define Adam as one being imperfect and one that cannot please God.
There is nothing written of him to determine what he was like before the fall.
However he's flesh and there's lust in the flesh and has no ability it or desire to please God.
1 John 5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
John 14:26: But the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.
Matthew 28:18- 20: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and on earth. (Read More)
John 15:26 But when the Comforter comes, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:
1 Corinthians 8:6: But to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
John 14:10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father that dwells in me, he doeth the works.
Genesis 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and the cattle, and all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.
Romans 8:26- 27: Likewise, the Spirit also helps our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit makes intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered. (Read More...)
Ephesians 4:6: One God and Father of all, who is above all, through all, and in you all.
1 Peter 1:2: Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Isaiah 48:16: Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the begin
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Jeremiah 20:11-16, 38:20 KJV
When you feel everything around you seems to be falling apart?
My interpetation:
1 Peter 1:3 KJV
'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, '
"The story of Jeremiah during the fall of Judah is a profound example of faithfulness and divine protection amidst overwhelming adversity." Jeremiah 20:11-16 KJV
Ways we can have God's hand over us and faithfulness is to have a clean heart and thoughts ( Jeremiah 29:11 KJV) keep God's morals when living life. Believe God's word for bread of life and living water.( John 6:35 KJV)
Morals- right from wrong , good from bad.
God has blessed me believing in God's word for bread of life and living water.
John 6:35 KJV
Ways you can stand firm and not conflict for example in Jeremiah 37 KJV. Are Allowing us Christians our hands to see God, work and accomplish for us and succeed. - Mark 10:43-44 KJV. Genesis 39:3,6,23 KJV
Ways you can overcome conflict is by having faith , praying, reading God's word.-holy bible.
Recognizing God's hands at work. Jeremiah 38:20 KJV
In Reference to Jeremiah 38:20 KJV My interpetation: "it shall be well unto thee and thy soul shall live." Because you come from God-" 1 John 4:4-7KJV. Your are God's son- 2 Corinthians 6:18 KJV.
Seeing myself born of God made into his image Genesis 1:27 living as God identification of male/man in this world but not of it has blessed with God and of him and his church to partake of the consolation which provides support and aid.
Support- To sustain, to act,represent well as to support, to support the part assigned.
Those who believed in Jesus Christ origin ( Christians)who had faithEphesians 2:8-9 KJVand the church to both show the truth were the partakers of the consolation.
The word of God is speaking to us, we are born again by coming to truth of THE WORD, the written WORD becoming the LIVING WORD.
Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, who excel in strength (of the Lord), that do his commandment, harkening to the voice of the Lord.
Luke 29:36 Neither can they DIE any more (we died with Christ on his cross): for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION (joint heirs of his kingdom).
Genesis 1:2 .....and DARKNESS was upon the face of the earth (man) .......
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and CREATE DARKNESS .....
Job 19:22 A land of DARKNESS, as DARKNESS itself, and the shadow of DEATH, without any order, and where LIGHT is as DARKNESS.
2 Peter 2:4 But if God spared not the angels that sinned (blasphemed his name), but cast them down to the GRAVE, and delivered them into CHAINS OF DARKNESS (the wages of sin is death), to be reserved unto judgement,
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon the the judgement written, this HONOR hath all his SAINTS......
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD.
Romans 8:21 Because the CREATION ITSELF shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (darkness) into the GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
Yes, The whole Word of God is a PROPHECY of the Kingdom of GOD, including the book of Genesis; as you have said.
Genesis 1:26-27
27 So GOD created man in His own image, in the image of GOD created He him; male and female created He them.
28 And GOD blessed them, and GOD said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it
To frutify, and multiply, and to replenish th earth, GOD created the woman, by allegory the true Church of the Lord.
GOD sent JESUS and JESUS came in the fourth Day-the Greater Light- around 4000 yers after Adam- John 5:17. Around 27/30AD, i.e. in the beginning of the fifth Day, around 2000 years ago, JESUS said to the Jews: John 2:19 and 21: ->19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
21 But he spake of the temple of His body. (what our Lord JESUS said and revealed, physically He would resurrect in the third day (a day of 24 hours, of course); but spiritually, our Lord was speaking of his body the Church, it will rise up now in the 3rd Day, a Day of 1000 years, after have bear fruit, multiplied itself for 2000 years, and will replenish the earth with the resurrection of multitudes according 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17:
15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel(Michael- Daniel 12:1-3), and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the believers in Christ JESUS)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud(the same cloud in Acts 1:9-11,take a look), to meet the Lord in the air(on high, the 3rd heaven- Micah 4:1-8 combined with 2Corinthians 12:2-4 and Luke 20:35-36, among other biblical references, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was JESUS, which had made him whole.
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute JESUS, and sought to slay Him, because He had done these things on the sabbath day.
17 But JESUS answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I WORK. John 10:30- I and my Father are One.
It was the fourth Day or around 4000 years after Adam.--> Genesis 1:16- GOD made two great lights; the Greater Light to rule the day( 1Thessalonians 5:4-6), and the Lesser Light to rule the night: He made the stars also. JESUS said: John 12:46 -->I am come a Light into the world (like the Sun), that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
And the Lesser light: Who is him? The lesser Light receives light from the Greater Light because he has no light of his own (like the moon). So, who is him?
And the stars, who are them? By the way, the red Dragon with his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. Who are them?
Furthermore, the woman is clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars-Re.12:1
I like so much to decipher biblical enigmas/puzzles.
Matthew 5: 5 and 14 -
5- Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
14- Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Hello Cheryl1655. The best way to understand these two chapters in Genesis, is that chapter 1 is a declaration of God's Work in creation on each of the six days. When we get to chapter 2, we read of the seventh day, when God's Work had finished on the sixth, and that God rested (or, ceased from all His Work - not that He was exhausted). Then Genesis 2:4 gives us the answer to your question: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created...". So from this point, we are told what God had done in a general way, and now more specifically - with greater detail about His Creation - the focus on man.
So, as God created plants, He then sent out a mist initially to water them ( Genesis 2:6). He then shows us how He created man first & then woman, those mentioned in Genesis 1:26,27; His detail of them also seen in Genesis 2:7-22 - and that man (Adam) would tend to those plants ( Genesis 2:15) until the woman (Eve) came from his body, to be his companion & help in life. So these accounts in these first two chapters of Genesis, don't show us two separate creations of human beings, but the one creation, where more detail is given of God's creative Work in creating the first two people on Earth.
Interesting, wasn't it also thought to be a walled garden or paradise and not in Eden but east of Eden or Edem? In Genesis 2:8 the Hebrew word gan translated garden also means enclosure so it could have been walled. If they were in an enclosure makes you wonder how they could carry out Genesis 1:28 before they were cast out in Genesis 3:27-28.
Sorry, but no I don't understand and haven't payed any attention to your time line,
Just the formula you use.
I've originally seen a post from you maybe a few months back where you mentioned 2 Peter 3:8 as your basis for your "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years formula.
I started to comment then but I didn't.
I'm just asking "Why are you only using half the verse?
If you decide not to answer that that's fine.
But, can you atleast tell me what does the second half of the verse mean? It can't be excused. It's not there for nothing. It's scripture and on the same verse.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and ( A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.)
Does that mean God started his creation 7 days ago?
I know that sounds silly but it's reasonable according to the way you calculate.
Or, When using your interpretation of 2 Peter the way you do is it reasonable to say When God says "And the evening and the morning were the first day" in Genesis 1:5. That also is a thousand years with the evening lasting 500 years and the day lasting 500 years?
Oseas you and I know we are not going to come to an agreement so let's agree to disagree.
As you know,in the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.(heaven/singular as if it was only one heaven is wrong, GOD created the 1st,2nd and 3rd heavens,and the heaven of the heavens).In the other hand,in Genesis 1:1 the NAME of JESUS,the beginning,still was in occult because could not still be revealed,the revelation of the NAME of JESUS would be only in the fourth Day,around 4000 years after Adam,i.e.only in the turn from the fourth to the fifth GOD's Day,NEVER before.By the way,without JESUS was not any thing made that was made.When the Word was made flesh-the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing-,JESUS said to the Jews:My Father works hitherto,and I work- John 5:17.It still was the beginning of the fifth Day or around 30AD.
John 1:1
1In the beginning(in JESUS) was the Word...and the Word was GOD.
3All things were made by Him;without JESUS was not any thing made that was made.
4In Him was life;and the life was the light of men.
10He was in the world,and the world was made by Him,and the world knew Him not.
11He came unto His own,and His own received Him not.
12But as many as received Him,to them gave He power to become the sons of GOD,even to them that believe on His NAME:
Exodus 3:13-15
13Moses said unto GOD(unto the beginning-JESUS),Behold,when I come unto the children of Israel,and say unto them,The GOD of your fathers hath sent me unto you;and they shall say to me,What is His name?what shall I say unto them?
14And GOD(JESUS)said unto Moses,I Am That I Am:Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,I Am hath sent me unto you.
15...Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel:The Lord GOD of your fathers,
the GOD of Abraham,GOD of Isaac,GOD of Jacob,
hath sent me unto you:this is my NAME FOR EVER...
Exodus 6:3-I appeared unto Abraham,Isaac and unto Jacob,by the name of GOD Almighty( Revelation 1:8),but by my NAME Lord GOD-JESUS-was I not known to them.(NOT by esoteric and kabbalist Jehovah,not by the demonic tetragrammaton YHWH)
Pt. 4
Even though it was God's will for Jesus to suffer and die, accountability still fell on those responsible for His death, as highlighted in ( Mark 14:21).
God's dispositional will reflects His attitude and what pleases or displeases Him. For instance, ( 1 Timothy 2:4) reveals God's desire for all to be saved and know the truth. This illustrates God's disposition towards the lost, emphasizing His desire for their salvation. Despite God's universal desire for salvation, not everyone chooses to accept it.
There is a distinction between God's dispositional will and His sovereign will.
In essence, the will of God comprises three elements: 1) God's sovereign will is manifested in His unchangeable decrees. He decreed that there be light, and there was light. , ( Genesis 1:3)-an illustration of His efficacious decree.
He permitted Satan to afflict Job And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. , ( Job 1:12)-an instance of His permissive decree. 2) God's revealed will is found in His precepts, provided to us so that we may live in holiness. We have the capacity (but not the right) to violate these commands. 3) God's dispositional will is His attitude. Sometimes, God ordains something that does not bring Him pleasure, such as the death of the wicked as seen in Ezekiel 33:11."
See Pt. 5
I find this very interesting because Apostle Paul didn't baptize many people. " 1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ sent me not tobaptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. "
John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
It amaze me that she claim Jacob as of her father and was not even a Jew herself. " Romans 2:29
But he is aJew, which is oneinwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. "
John 4:12
Art thou greater than our fatherJacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
Because Jesus told her, she had five husbands, she believed the more. " Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of theLordare in every place, beholding theevilandthegood. "
John 4:18
For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly
When God made Adam and Eve, they were both soul and spirit first. God made them at the same time. " Genesis 1:27
So God createdmanin his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Jesus had a command to the twelve: " Matthew 10:5
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commandedthem, saying,GonotintothewayoftheGentiles, and into any cityoftheSamaritans enter yenot: "
John 4:27
And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
John 4:42
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
The Bible is a great book and is alive ...
Then in Genesis 2:4, after the 'generations of the heavens and of the earth were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens', God had seen fit to expand on certain aspects of those six days of creation in Genesis 1 (and specifically about how His Work of creating these perfect human beings came to be). Man was first formed from Earth's dust (v7) & then Woman was then formed from man's body; that they are not just two separate creations, but really two separate humans who are vitally & intrinsically connected to each other, causing them to have an abiding, loving & meaningful relationship, as they could have with no other creature.
So, I believe that these two chapters (on the creation of man & woman) are not two separate acts of creation by God, but only One. That the second chapter amplifies what God created on the sixth day, which then leads us into the following chapters of Genesis & the rest of the Bible on the lives of men & women and God's dealing with them, even until the end of time as we know it.
Your post has attracted a lot of comments.
Do not be confused.
Trust YAH/GOD [ Proverbs 3:5-6] and go to HIS Word and let it lead you and guide you.
HE and HE alone IS the Great Physician [ Isaiah 53:5 & Psalm 103:3] although HE has HIS representatives on the earth, they are in the vast minority because as it is written satan has deceived the "whole" world [ Revelation 12:9]
Pharmakeia [pharmaceuticals] by its very definition in the Greek means witchcraft. [ pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.]
So be very discerning and ALWAYS ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF YAH for Wisdom [ James 1:5] that you may understand HIS Word to sift out truth from fiction or truth from half truths, that HE may guide your feet to [ Psalm 119:105] where HE may want you to go and to whom, if any, that HE may want you to go to.
Also that most of all, HE would teach you about the power and authority that HE has placed in you, even from the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4-6]; and which HE reinforced in the forming of the template [Adam] of material man [ Genesis 1:26 ] when HE [ELOHIM- I.E. THE PLURALITY OF HIMSELF] said Let US make man in our own image and likeness; and again when YESHUA/JESUS said that you can do all that HE does and even more [ John 14:12]
May YAH continue to Keep you. In YESHUA MIGHTY NAME.AMEN.
John 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." Apart from the work of Jesus Christ, every human is condemned to an eternity in hell ( Revelation 20:15). But God has freely offered the gift of heaven. What determines if a person goes to heaven or hell for eternity is whether that person has been reconciled to God through Jesus Christ ( Romans 4; Galatians 3:23-29; Hebrews 11).
Going to hell is the default position of humanity. Going to heaven is the free gift of God's grace, received by faith, offered to all people ( Ephesians 2:1-10). God wants people to be reconciled with Him, so He provided the way ( John 14:6). Every person is invited to go to heaven.
Going to heaven or hell has everything to do with God's act of rescue. When God created the world, everything was very good ( Genesis 1:31). He created humanity in His image. He provided food for them but told them there was one tree from which they were not allowed to eat. They were to trust His provision, follow His commands, remain in close relationship with Him, and experience fullness of life. But they were also free to disobey Him, which would result in death ( Genesis 2:15-17; Romans 6:23).God, I know that I have gone against your ways, that I rightly deserve condemnation. I know that you are loving, merciful, gracious, and just. I believe that you have made reconciliation possible. I believe that Jesus is the only Savior, and I submit to Him as Lord. I believe He is fully God, fully human, lived a perfect life, died on the cross for my sins, and rose from the dead bodily. I believe His sacrifice is sufficient for my sins.
Jesus as firstborn creation He spoke about this himself in details:
I found this scriptures:
Proverbs 8:22-31
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Jesus described what it was like to be with his Father and this scriptures is further proof that he is the "firstborn of all creation" .. "the beginning of the creation of God" It doesn't make sense if he is talking about himself. It's very descriptive. Which also made Genesis 1:26 - "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." His son was with him.
I'm slowly learning the verses of the Bible. Thought this is interesting. I want to find the truth :)
But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole.
Overcoming fear, sickening and death Relying on God's Love
Insurance of God
I John 4:18 KJV
Isaiah 41:10 KJV
Psalms 27:1 KJV
Deuteronomy 3:22 KJV
Assurance of God
Romans 8:31-39 KJV
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Ways you can rely on God's love and overcome sickness, and death are recognizing God's presence,. Trusting in his sovereignty, boistering our faith, and embracing his love. Reading your holy bilble, praying having thoughts of God that your heart will be at.( Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV)
Have healthy relationships with God enjoying healthy relationships with one another.
Having Christian morals, man and woman of you word and virtue. Always tell the truth. Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God. That God exists. You and your thoughts becoming existence/like God Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV, Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, daughter, or children.
What not to do to rely on God love and overcome fearsickness , and death is to be bitter and harm others, steal, cheat, liar, not working correctly.
Keeping mind,mean,motivation of God
Mind- Ideas, capacity, wisdom, thinking, attitude,
Mean- method, opportunity, Howvto (know how), way, process ( techniques)
Motivation- Empowerment, Persitance, Strength, Passion, Inspiration.
I have believed Jesus Christ is God and have had faith practicing and speaking into existence these ways to rely on God's love and overcome fear ,sickness and death.
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I pray to God for those with unwavering faith, not steadfast, or in prayer God will help them, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God, (Christianity) listen to God, even be healed and saved.
Daniel 6:2, 3 which was Daniel excellency of spirit also shown in Daniel 1:17 ,10,11,14 which is Daniel deliverance,16,20,21,22 which is a plus added to you and positive difference, 23 Which is result evident My interpetation : "(token ) Psalm 112:3 KJV "Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty"
,27,28 KJV.
I believe Jesus Christ God as the Father and made in his image Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, to be blessed which is a plus My interpetation evident "(token ) Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" and to have what I say and want "( Psalm 112:3 KJV) of his New Convenant I am a Christian that practices reading my Holy Bible and praying bringing God glory and God's deliverance. which is a plus added to me to receive blessings and being a positive difference Philippians 4:6-8 NKJV 1 John 3:2 KJV my faith believing confirmed in me holy the identity Christian that allows me to be shown to have no challenges in relations in life .
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God. That God exists. You and your thoughts becoming existence/like God Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV, Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, daughter, or children.
that allows me to be shown to have no challenges in relations in life .
Ways you can have unwavering faith, steadfast having strength and God's protection ( Psalms 121:1-8 KJV) ( Daniel 12:1-4 KJV, ), God protects you fighting and defending for you and his anger is on adversity. Are to allow God attributes ( Galatians 5:22 KJV )to come within you receiving them mind, body, soul and spirit.
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God Genesis 1:27 KJV becoming his son daughter, or children.
Love and trust the Lord
Practice humility to God and in God.
Surround yourself and be in surroundings with goldy influences of (Christian- practices , a place , institution.)
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Ways you can have unwavering faith, steadfast having strength and God's protection ( Psalms 121:1-8 KJV) ( Daniel 12:1-4 KJV, ), God protects you fighting and defending for you and his anger is on adversity. Are to allow God attributes ( Galatians 5:22 KJV )to come within you receiving them mind, body, soul and spirit.
Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God Genesis 1:27 KJV becoming his son daughter, or children.
Love and trust the Lord
Practice humility to God and in God.
Surround yourself and be in surroundings with goldy influences of (Christian- practices , a place , institution.)
Published and spoken Word by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
My writings:
Daniel was unwavering steadfast in prayer 3 times a day( Daniel 6:10 KJV) " This demonstrated God's power and faithfulness to those who trust in God." Which was miraculous Daniel 6:14 KJV, being evident My interpetation "(token )" Psalm 112:3 KJV Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" no scars which is today.
Evidence related scriptures: Daniel:3,4,5, 8,12,13,17 KJV
Daniel 6:2, 3 which was Daniel excellency of spirit also shown in Daniel 1:17 ,10,11,14 which is Daniel deliverance,16,20,21,22 which is a plus added to you and positive difference, 23 Which is result evident My interpetation : "(token ) Psalm 112:3 KJV "Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty"
,27,28 KJV.
Daniel 6:2-3,10 11,14,16,20,21,22,23,27,28 KJV
Believing in God, and having unwavering faith , steadfast in prayer can help someone, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God (Christianity) even be healed and saved
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
I pray for those with unwavering faith ,not steadfast, or in prayer That God can help them, people in position of power, office, laws, governments, to accept God, (Christianity) listen to God , even be healed and saved.
I believe God as the Father and made in his image Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, to be blessed which is a plus My interpetation evident "(token ) Not to be in state of hunger, depression, poverty" and to have what I say and want "( Psalm 112:3 KJV) of his New Convenant I am a Christian that practices reading my Holy Bible and praying bringing God glory and God's deliverance. which is a plus added to me to receive blessings and being a positive difference Philippians 4:6-8 NKJV 1 John 3:2 KJV my faith believing confirmed in me holy the identity Christian
John (Part 1):
John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Notice the three words "was." As I shared with you earlier, that has to do with the continuous existence in the past. That is what the Greek word represents. And notice the three different segments. In the beginning was the word. Secondly, the word was with God. And thirdly, the word was God.
In the beginning, and literally in the Greek text, there is no definite article "the." It is just EN ARCHAE, in beginning. There's a reason for that. It is because Genesis Chapter 1 Verse 1, in the Hebrew as well as the Greek translation, it reads "In beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
There is no word "the" in Genesis 1:1 either because it was not "the beginning," it was just beginning. And in the language of both Hebrew and Greek, that is a designation of at the time of creation.
So, in beginning, that is, at Genesis 1:1, was the Word. And again, the word "was" shows continuous existence and the word "Word" is the word LOGOS.
The LOGOS, the great thinker behind the universe was already in existence at the time of physical creation. That is, the creation of physical things as we know it. He was always in existence.
Secondly, and the word was with God. The word "with" represents a Greek phrase that means face-to-face with. And it is the Greek term for equality. To be face-to-face, eye-to-eye, shows equality.
And the word was God. Interesting that some people take these phrases and try to make something out of it that actually twists it away from its original intent. It says the word was God.
Notice our three principles:
Existence - at creation the word existed already.
Equality - and the word was with God, that is face-to-face equal to God.
And thirdly, and the word was God - Essence, nature, the very nature of God Himself.
Thanks for your patients.
Part 1.
Carleton, just so we're clear, the focal point of this thread is that we are comparing Christ nature and Adam's.
We're not talking about whether Adam was saved or not.
I believe Christ was God. That says enough about his nature.
I believe Adam was a living soul. Huge difference!
With that being said here's Your Quote.
" Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
This verse shows that Life is good, and it includes spiritual life as it is made in the likeness of the Spirit of God as everything was in the beginning. End quote.
Sorry Carleton but I can't agree with that.
For one, if Adam was created in the likeness of the Spirit of God, then there would be no need for a rebirth to enter the Kingdom of God.
The scripture is clear that the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45.
I believe Job 33:4 speaks of creation not salvation. God breathed in Adam nostrils, and he became a living soul.
God's creativity is the handiwork of the Spirit - the same Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation ( Genesis 1:2)
Christ was a quickening Spirit, clothed with light and gave us "including Adam" his spirit.
Satan was able to trip up Adam by way of Eve "his bride" because they were Naked.
Satan had power over Christ!
Satan goes after the bride Christ, but Christ is our shepherd, and we have his Spirit in us. We're clothed in Christ righteousness.
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. Isaiah 61:10.
See part 2.
Thank you for your reply
I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?
In fact, the correct translation of Genesis 1:1 is not heaven(singular),but heavens(plural), according was said and revealed by own GOD to Moses. So for your own good and also of all readers here, and elsewhere, what matters and prevails is what GOD said to Moses, that is the original and true source. What did GOD reveal about heaven/heavens around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC, and Moses wrote, it is as follows:
Genesis - Chapter 1-2 - torah
Verse 1-In the beginning of GOD's creation of the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2-Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of the water.
By the way, heaven is a plant, understand? planted by GOD: Isaiah 51:16 combined with Ephesians 1:3-8, among many other biblical references.
16 -> And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
You called me rude, no poblem, it is the consequence of my zealous for the Word of GOD, the Truth. What does the Word of GOD say? Proverbs 27:6->Faithful are the wounds of a friend(or by who loves); but the kisses(something like panegyrize) of an enemy(of who annoy) are deceitful.
2Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
GOD BLESS
Luke 19:48 - And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.
In the Greek it literally means they were hanging on every word that Jesus spoke. So of course, the religious leaders, they were trying to destroy Him. Yet all the people are just hanging on to every word that Jesus says. So, they were not able to take Him at this point.
Luke 20:9 - Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.
Husbandman means farmer. It was customary in those times that if you were going to leave your property, your agricultural property, that you would lease it out to other people. And the price for the land would be a percentage of the crops that the land would produce.
Luke 20:24 - Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
Show me a denarius, and remember that a denarius is one day's wage. Whose image and superscription has it? They answered and said, Caesar's. This is like taking one of our coins out. And He says whose inscription, whose superscription, whose picture is that on the coin? And they said it is Caesar's.
The word image in this text is the same one used in the Septuagint, the Old Testament. In Genesis 1:26-27, it says that man was made in the image of God. So, Jesus has this coin held up and He says whose image is on it? Caesar's!
Luke 20:46 - Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
Beware of the scribes. You would think that just on the surface that He is saying be careful about them. But literally the Greek word says observe yourselves from the scribes.
Make sure you don't get caught up in what they're getting caught up into. Don't watch out for them, you watch out for yourself. And He's telling the disciples.
Because Genesis said that God saw all that He had made and said it was good, the fall of Satan happened between that statement and when he tempted Eve into sin, in my opinion, unless God was talking about what He had created on the earth, exempting the angels, who sang with joy when the physical universe was made in Genesis 1:1. If the latter, then Satan could have fallen prior to the creation of the earth.
Scripture does not give specific details on when this occurred or whether the "Eden of God" was a heavenly abode which the earthly Eden represents the heavenly Eden.
This question is perplexing, and Christians have written and discussed this for many millenniums
I just thought I should mention to you that when you said that the bible says in Genesis 1:1 "in the beginning,GOD created the heavens and the earth," that actually, it says: In the beginning God created the heaven (singular) and the earth. The modern versions, which I believe are not Holy Ghost inspired like the KJB is, put an 's' implying plural heavens but the Holy Spirit wrote it as one heaven. God Bless :)
I like the way Gigi put it concerning Genesis 1:31.
"He made everything just the way he planned it".
Therefore he called it Good.
Including Satan and the Angels.
Good doesn't express behavior in these passages. It's accomplishing what was intended.
There is only one Good and that's God.
Adam shame and trying to cover his nakedness after his eyes were open to receive knowledge of Good and Evil testifies that he had a sense of awareness of his depravity and vulnerability. Not nudity.
If nudity being wrong was all he got out of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and that was sinful and valid then he wasn't made perfect. He didn't take clothes off, He was born Naked.
Adam hid himself from God because when his eyes were opened he saw himself with the knowledge he received from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
This Knowledge revealed to him that he wasn't Good. He's now realizes he's vulnerable.
Here's what he said; I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
This is in line with what nakedness means throughout the scripture.
Adam was a natural man, A empty vessel and naked.
How do you define sinless nature? Isn't it "someone's NATURAL reaction to not sin.
How could one with a sinless nature sin?
Or one with a sinful nature "NOT" sin?
I would define Adam as one being imperfect and one that cannot please God.
There is nothing written of him to determine what he was like before the fall.
However he's flesh and there's lust in the flesh and has no ability it or desire to please God.
See part 2.
1 John 5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
John 14:26: But the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.
Matthew 28:18- 20: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and on earth. (Read More)
John 15:26 But when the Comforter comes, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:
1 Corinthians 8:6: But to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
John 14:10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father that dwells in me, he doeth the works.
Genesis 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and the cattle, and all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.
Romans 8:26- 27: Likewise, the Spirit also helps our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit makes intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered. (Read More...)
Ephesians 4:6: One God and Father of all, who is above all, through all, and in you all.
1 Peter 1:2: Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Isaiah 48:16: Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the begin
When you feel everything around you seems to be falling apart?
My interpetation:
1 Peter 1:3 KJV
'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, '
"The story of Jeremiah during the fall of Judah is a profound example of faithfulness and divine protection amidst overwhelming adversity." Jeremiah 20:11-16 KJV
Ways we can have God's hand over us and faithfulness is to have a clean heart and thoughts ( Jeremiah 29:11 KJV) keep God's morals when living life. Believe God's word for bread of life and living water.( John 6:35 KJV)
Morals- right from wrong , good from bad.
God has blessed me believing in God's word for bread of life and living water.
John 6:35 KJV
Ways you can stand firm and not conflict for example in Jeremiah 37 KJV. Are Allowing us Christians our hands to see God, work and accomplish for us and succeed. - Mark 10:43-44 KJV. Genesis 39:3,6,23 KJV
Ways you can overcome conflict is by having faith , praying, reading God's word.-holy bible.
Recognizing God's hands at work. Jeremiah 38:20 KJV
In Reference to Jeremiah 38:20 KJV My interpetation: "it shall be well unto thee and thy soul shall live." Because you come from God-" 1 John 4:4-7KJV. Your are God's son- 2 Corinthians 6:18 KJV.
Seeing myself born of God made into his image Genesis 1:27 living as God identification of male/man in this world but not of it has blessed with God and of him and his church to partake of the consolation which provides support and aid.
Support- To sustain, to act,represent well as to support, to support the part assigned.
Those who believed in Jesus Christ origin ( Christians)who had faithEphesians 2:8-9 KJVand the church to both show the truth were the partakers of the consolation.
- Refrence example in 2 Corinthians 1:3-7 KJV
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The plurality in Yehovah Elohim never refers to Angels, they don't participate in the creation.
Isaiah 44:24 reads "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;
So in Genesis 1:1when it reads "In the beginning God/Elohim created the heaven and the earth, it doesn't refer to Angels.
So why is Elohim used and who does this Plural name consist of?
Throughout the creation process Elohim is used.
This reasonably connects Jesus to this claim. John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Also in Genesis 1:26 it reads, "And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:
Not only did Angels "not" participate in the creation, we're not made in the image or likeness of Angels as shown in 1 Corinthians 15:44-48.
Psalms 19:1 reads, "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
(The creation shows God's greatness, It's his GLORY!)
Isaiah 42:8 reads, "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another,
But listen to Jesus in John 17:5, "And now, O Father, GLORIFY THOU ME WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
God bless.
The word of God is speaking to us, we are born again by coming to truth of THE WORD, the written WORD becoming the LIVING WORD.
Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, who excel in strength (of the Lord), that do his commandment, harkening to the voice of the Lord.
Luke 29:36 Neither can they DIE any more (we died with Christ on his cross): for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION (joint heirs of his kingdom).
Genesis 1:2 .....and DARKNESS was upon the face of the earth (man) .......
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and CREATE DARKNESS .....
Job 19:22 A land of DARKNESS, as DARKNESS itself, and the shadow of DEATH, without any order, and where LIGHT is as DARKNESS.
2 Peter 2:4 But if God spared not the angels that sinned (blasphemed his name), but cast them down to the GRAVE, and delivered them into CHAINS OF DARKNESS (the wages of sin is death), to be reserved unto judgement,
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon the the judgement written, this HONOR hath all his SAINTS......
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD.
Romans 8:21 Because the CREATION ITSELF shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (darkness) into the GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
God Bless You
Yes, The whole Word of God is a PROPHECY of the Kingdom of GOD, including the book of Genesis; as you have said.
Genesis 1:26-27
27 So GOD created man in His own image, in the image of GOD created He him; male and female created He them.
28 And GOD blessed them, and GOD said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it
To frutify, and multiply, and to replenish th earth, GOD created the woman, by allegory the true Church of the Lord.
GOD sent JESUS and JESUS came in the fourth Day-the Greater Light- around 4000 yers after Adam- John 5:17. Around 27/30AD, i.e. in the beginning of the fifth Day, around 2000 years ago, JESUS said to the Jews: John 2:19 and 21: ->19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
21 But he spake of the temple of His body. (what our Lord JESUS said and revealed, physically He would resurrect in the third day (a day of 24 hours, of course); but spiritually, our Lord was speaking of his body the Church, it will rise up now in the 3rd Day, a Day of 1000 years, after have bear fruit, multiplied itself for 2000 years, and will replenish the earth with the resurrection of multitudes according 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17:
15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel(Michael- Daniel 12:1-3), and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the believers in Christ JESUS)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud(the same cloud in Acts 1:9-11,take a look), to meet the Lord in the air(on high, the 3rd heaven- Micah 4:1-8 combined with 2Corinthians 12:2-4 and Luke 20:35-36, among other biblical references, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
GOD BLESS
Isaiah 28:21 and 10:23; Romans 9:28 and 8:18-25
15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was JESUS, which had made him whole.
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute JESUS, and sought to slay Him, because He had done these things on the sabbath day.
17 But JESUS answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I WORK. John 10:30- I and my Father are One.
It was the fourth Day or around 4000 years after Adam.--> Genesis 1:16- GOD made two great lights; the Greater Light to rule the day( 1Thessalonians 5:4-6), and the Lesser Light to rule the night: He made the stars also. JESUS said: John 12:46 -->I am come a Light into the world (like the Sun), that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
And the Lesser light: Who is him? The lesser Light receives light from the Greater Light because he has no light of his own (like the moon). So, who is him?
And the stars, who are them? By the way, the red Dragon with his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. Who are them?
Furthermore, the woman is clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars-Re.12:1
I like so much to decipher biblical enigmas/puzzles.
Matthew 5: 5 and 14 -
5- Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
14- Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Very profound. GOD BLESS
So, as God created plants, He then sent out a mist initially to water them ( Genesis 2:6). He then shows us how He created man first & then woman, those mentioned in Genesis 1:26,27; His detail of them also seen in Genesis 2:7-22 - and that man (Adam) would tend to those plants ( Genesis 2:15) until the woman (Eve) came from his body, to be his companion & help in life. So these accounts in these first two chapters of Genesis, don't show us two separate creations of human beings, but the one creation, where more detail is given of God's creative Work in creating the first two people on Earth.
Interesting, wasn't it also thought to be a walled garden or paradise and not in Eden but east of Eden or Edem? In Genesis 2:8 the Hebrew word gan translated garden also means enclosure so it could have been walled. If they were in an enclosure makes you wonder how they could carry out Genesis 1:28 before they were cast out in Genesis 3:27-28.
God bless,
RLW
Thanks again for your replies.
Sorry, but no I don't understand and haven't payed any attention to your time line,
Just the formula you use.
I've originally seen a post from you maybe a few months back where you mentioned 2 Peter 3:8 as your basis for your "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years formula.
I started to comment then but I didn't.
I'm just asking "Why are you only using half the verse?
If you decide not to answer that that's fine.
But, can you atleast tell me what does the second half of the verse mean? It can't be excused. It's not there for nothing. It's scripture and on the same verse.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and ( A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.)
Does that mean God started his creation 7 days ago?
I know that sounds silly but it's reasonable according to the way you calculate.
Or, When using your interpretation of 2 Peter the way you do is it reasonable to say When God says "And the evening and the morning were the first day" in Genesis 1:5. That also is a thousand years with the evening lasting 500 years and the day lasting 500 years?
Oseas you and I know we are not going to come to an agreement so let's agree to disagree.
God bless you.
As you know,in the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.(heaven/singular as if it was only one heaven is wrong, GOD created the 1st,2nd and 3rd heavens,and the heaven of the heavens).In the other hand,in Genesis 1:1 the NAME of JESUS,the beginning,still was in occult because could not still be revealed,the revelation of the NAME of JESUS would be only in the fourth Day,around 4000 years after Adam,i.e.only in the turn from the fourth to the fifth GOD's Day,NEVER before.By the way,without JESUS was not any thing made that was made.When the Word was made flesh-the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing-,JESUS said to the Jews:My Father works hitherto,and I work- John 5:17.It still was the beginning of the fifth Day or around 30AD.
John 1:1
1In the beginning(in JESUS) was the Word...and the Word was GOD.
3All things were made by Him;without JESUS was not any thing made that was made.
4In Him was life;and the life was the light of men.
10He was in the world,and the world was made by Him,and the world knew Him not.
11He came unto His own,and His own received Him not.
12But as many as received Him,to them gave He power to become the sons of GOD,even to them that believe on His NAME:
Exodus 3:13-15
13Moses said unto GOD(unto the beginning-JESUS),Behold,when I come unto the children of Israel,and say unto them,The GOD of your fathers hath sent me unto you;and they shall say to me,What is His name?what shall I say unto them?
14And GOD(JESUS)said unto Moses,I Am That I Am:Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,I Am hath sent me unto you.
15...Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel:The Lord GOD of your fathers,
the GOD of Abraham,GOD of Isaac,GOD of Jacob,
hath sent me unto you:this is my NAME FOR EVER...
Exodus 6:3-I appeared unto Abraham,Isaac and unto Jacob,by the name of GOD Almighty( Revelation 1:8),but by my NAME Lord GOD-JESUS-was I not known to them.(NOT by esoteric and kabbalist Jehovah,not by the demonic tetragrammaton YHWH)
I would like to bring a little more clarity to my last post so I would call this Part 2.
In Genesis 1:28 it reads, "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth...,
Now we know God put the earth upon its axis created the sun and the moon precisely the way he intended it.
So in Genesis 1:28 when he said fill the earth the results he would get out of it was also in the making in day 1.
blessings