Discuss Genesis 27 Page 3

  • Lexy on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    Genesis 27 is a wonderful chapter in the Bible that teaches us how favoritism displayed among your children is very damaging to the entire family structure! Isaac loved Esau and Rebecca loved Jacob. Rebecca knew God told her the oldest would serve the youngest, but after she heard what Isaac told Esau, she feared Jacob would not inherit the Birth right. Rebekah schemed and plotted with Jacob to order things in his favor...but everything was already in Jacob 's favor! God knew his heart even before he was born..Esau DESPISED his Birthright but Jacob dreamed about the birthright! Esau lost his birthright not because he was starving with hunger, or because of Rebecca 's scheming, but because he "despised " it!...Despise means to regard with contempt or scorn To dislike intensely to loathe...this is how Esau truly felt about the birthright...God chose Jacob over Esau because of foreknowledge..God said, "Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. " Esau was a hater of the things of God! He even chose Hittite women over godly women knowing it broke his parent 's heart! It was proper and fitting that Esau lost the Birthright...this chapter teaches us to honor and never despise the gifts of God.
  • Bubba Mitchell on Genesis 27:3 - 10 years ago
    I am a Hunter Education instructor in the state of Arkansas...Almost every class, I have some person say I don 't believe in hunting...I ask them "Do you believe in the Bible? " every time it is yes...then I tell them to read Gen 27:3....
  • Dewey J on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    Larry Ely, good post. I do agree with Bibi 's comments on reaping and sowing also one of self control. If Esau had any true value for almighty God and his blessings he would not have sold blessing for what some consider a Big Mac attack. All four parties are to be blamed he for their human weakness and lack of faith in God by attempting to bring to past the divine purpose of God by pitiful human means. God told Rebekah before the birth of her sons when she inquired of him when she was having difficulty with her pregnancy. God explained to her that there were two nations of people in her womb and that the elder Esau was going to serve the younger Jacob Gen. 25:23. God knew the character of both men and which one would value him and his blessings more Jocob and made the decision of who was to receive him based on the content of their character Rom. 9:15. God bless all and in the understanding of his word. Glory be to God in the high through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen.
  • Dewey J on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    John Paul, that 's incorrect Esau 's descendants didn 't rescue Jacob 's descendants from slavery. God did from slavery in Egypt. God bless us all and in the reading and understanding of his word. Amen.
  • Larry Ely on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    I cannot quite agree with the above comment about "self-control ", etc. First, Esau sold his birthright for a meal, true, but the narrative makes it clear that he wasn 't just a little hungry, his starvation was life threatening, perhaps 25:32 . So Jacob, pressing his advantage, says in effect, OK, I 'll save your life for a price. Not exactly the loving brother. And as to the trickery and deceit in stealing the blessing intended for Esau, well Jacob was wise as a serpent, but I will not comment on the gentle as a dove part. It is interesting the belief about blessing illustrated here. In his heart, Isaac was blessing Esau he believed it was Esau, and Jacob lied and said he was Esau, so how was Isaac NOT blessing Esau? And of this blessing business, is it implicit here that God somehow is obliged to bring to pass what is promised in the blessing? Then, would omnipotent and omniscient God be obliged to honor a blessing stolen through fraud and deceit? The story, I believe, is rich in the beliefs of a bygone time, and in human nature, which hasn 't changed at all since then. The mother who schemes to defraud her husband to the advantage of her favorite son, the envy of the younger son and his schemes against his slightly older--and perhaps not too bright--brother. The love hate of fraternal twins. And the petty schemes and dreams of all of these very human sinners somehow coming together to advance the Plan of God Almighty.
  • Bibi on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    This chapter reminds me of reaping sowing and self control. Esau reaped what he sowed, he sold his birthright for 1 meal. He is such a barbarian that he did not consider the value of his birthright. He had no self control, because he was hungry. When Jesus , who descended from Jacob 's lineage, was hungry after fasting 40 days and 40 nights, he did not allow himself to be tricked! Esau 's lineage was not capable of producing a man like Jesus! Esau had already grieved his parents by marrying Hittite women. Jacob was wise as a serpent, but harmless as a dove. Also Jacob obeyed his mother by following her instructions, which God allowed, because God hated Esau. He knew that Esau would not be obedient and he would also raise his children as wild brutes. This would have grieved God, Abraham, and Sarah.
  • John Paul on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    This was a story about love and respect in the family. We are all one and should abide by the sayings of our parents, Esau was next in line because he was oldest and age means experience!! Jacob was younger and he was not ready to take the place of his father and therefore not ready to be blessed for the role in question. By lying to his father he incurred the wrath of his brother! So enraged by the cheat he wanted to kill his brother not fully understanding that his father told him that his people would save Jacobs people from bondage Slavery....
  • Stella on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    This is a lesson may God have mercy.
  • Wayne on Genesis 27 - 10 years ago
    this is a story about, lying, cheating, stealing, through the influence of a women. It is about greed and how it can hurt some and help others. It is about right and wrong. This is the same from the beginning like with Eve.
  • Emajesty on Genesis 27:29 - 10 years ago
    From the perspective of the son, its a blessing of the Father 's love. The Father CHOSE to bless who He wanted. As a GOOD man, He gave His son an Inheritance.Selah!
  • God never change on Genesis 27 - 11 years ago
    Early mistakes in life can affect one s destiny avoid mistake so dat ur may not b altered
  • Searchwayorg on Genesis 27:4 - 11 years ago
    Do good things for others and they will bless you Blessing brings blessings
  • BSP on Genesis 27:14 - 11 years ago
    Even though Jacob was about 40 years old at this time he valued and listened to his mom s advice and because he did he received a blessing This shows that we are never too old to learn something valuable from our parents and especially if they value spiritual things
  • Lowenah on Genesis 27:1 - 11 years ago
    i wanted to now what it was saying
  • Eleanor on Genesis 27:41 - 11 years ago
    This was very good info for me
  • Ben Z. on Genesis 27 - 11 years ago
    This is a very important topic to talk about. The story is a story of obeindence
  • Emmanuel Adegoke Ezekiel on Genesis 27 - 12 years ago
    God's word never fails! Just as Judas Iscariot made himself to fulfill the prophecies of betrayal; Esau by carelessly sold his birthright played his part in fulfilling the prophecy. Rebecca being the custodian of the prophecy just played along. What a mighty and unquestionable God we serve!
  • Markus Flaig on Genesis 27 - 12 years ago
    Only the firstborn can receive the blessing of the firstborn. Therefore, in order to receive the blessing, Jacob first had to become the firstborn; just as we have to become one with Jesus, the “firstborn of all creature”, in order to become part of his kingdom. By “transforming” Jacob into the firstborn Esau, Rebecca does exactly the one thing that is needed, so God’s word can be fulfilled! It is NOT by means of deception that Jacob receives the blessing, because by virtue of the prophecy Rebecca received before the twins were born, Jacob IS the firstborn!
  • PENELOPE on Genesis 27:12 - 12 years ago
    looking at GENESIS 27:6-13 REBEKAH(MOTHER)was the deceiver not JACOB the son.
  • Wilson Ngoye on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    Rebeca, did not have to worry about Jacob ruling over Esau. Already Esau had sold his first birth right to Jacob without the enfluence of Rebeca. So even without all this event that casued pains and sorrow to Esau and Isack and force Jacob away from home, and build much hatred between the two brothers the word of God could still have been fullfilled that Jacob would rule!
  • JB Tubah on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    Jacob standing before Isaac answering as Esau prefigures the church before the Father. No person can stand before God in his own name and hope to gain God's favor. The believer stands before God the Father and answers in Jesus' Name because that is the only name in which God forgives sinful man. All man [and woman] must be clothed in Jesus' righteouness, washed in His blood to qualify for glory.
  • Timothy Wayne George on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    We must remember that God said two nations were in the womb of Rebekah, and that the elder would serve the younger. It was the will of God for Jacob to receive the blessing. Adam's disobedience is what caused sin and death to be passed down to the human race. Thank God it was the obedience of the second Adam the Lord Jesus Christ that has redeemed us from the curse of sin and death. That is why Romans 8:28 tells us all things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose.
  • Jenelle on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    God did not need the help of Eve, Sarah, and Rebekah to accomplish His will. As a result of their lies, the human race is still suffering the consequences. We face situations today that God would have worked out without our help; but because of our doubts and lack of faith, we take control of situations and create problems for ourselves.
  • J Stroud on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    I think I understand this better after reading the commentary. The lesson I got from this is that God does not need our help to accomplish His purpose. I believe God could have accomplished Jacob getting the proper blessing without Rebekah getting involved and over anxious. Just a thought. What do you think?
  • Tumelo on Genesis 27 - 13 years ago
    This chapter shows that no matter what happens, God's will, will always come to pass. Jacob, even before he was born was destined to rule over Esau, from conception. However way we (mere human being) like to look at it and critisize how it happened, fact is it happened and God still blessed Jacob, abundantly.
    Back then, a blessing was a blessing and a curse was a curse; Rebekah, had Isaac cursed Jacob, would have been cursed as she said; these were the Old Testament days, before the Mosaic Law, before Jesus fulfilled the law.

    Again, who are we to say NO if God says yes, and who are we to say YES if God says no. God let it happen and Israel came from there, the chosen people of God.
  • Winnie Mbamalu on Genesis 27:19 - 13 years ago
    On the day that this incident took place, nobody in jacob's household understood that what they were watching was a sign, nobody in that house knew that they were a privileged audience of prophecy being dramatized and demonstrated.

    Jacob in that attire standing before his father was a picture and a representative of the end- time Church. The voice of Jacob and the hand of Esau was is satan's biggest desire for every true believer for it's all about DOBLE IDENTIY, having a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof.

    Ever wondered why we pray, fast, confess the word and yet still struggle? Double Identity - that's why. Brethren, Christianity is not a designers' suit to be worn when occasion demands to be worn outside and when we get home we pull it off! Double Identity is about hypocrisy, God hates it. We are not the Scribes and Pharisees, we are a royal priesthood.... (this space is for commentaries, I have to stop) Thank you.
  • Jimmie L. Hancock on Genesis 27 - 14 years ago
    Verse 46 begins a phrase with a Capital "I": "If Jacob, etc." All my later copies of the KJV begin this phrase with a small "i". How did this develop?
  • RALPH M. WATERS on Genesis 27 - 14 years ago
    Eve / Sarah / Rebekah - All three showed how a lie can change the direction of enrire races. Now these lies had an effect on the course of our lives. Not saying to tell a lie is good. But no man or woman can stop what GOD has intended. For all things work out to what GOD will
  • Pro on Genesis 4 - 14 years ago
    The Power of Truth

    WARNING: the information you are about to learn can get you killed.
    (Quiz: what do Mrs. Bhutto, Martin Luther King Jr., the Kennedys and Abraham Lincoln have in common?)

    Son of man, set they face against God, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him. Ezekiel 38:32

    God doesn't send evil, but He allows it. In the Bible, in the book of Job, you can see that Satan has to deal with God to get permission to hurt (test) Job. Bible verses translated from Hebrew and Greek stating that God has an evil spirit are erroneous. God is Law, and when people break the law, they find themselves under the curse of the law, but if they obey the 10 commandments, they keep themselves under blessings. When Jacob (a black man) supplanted his twin brother, Esau (a white man with red hair blue eyes - Aryan) of his birthright in exchange for food, their father Isaac (which was Ismahel's half brother by Abraham - Ismael being the Arab Muslims) Isaac put Esau's material blessing (Banks) on Jacob (who later became Israel's 12 Tribes) along with the spiritual blessing of the Kingdom of God on earth (Torah) there was no more blessings to put on Esau (the 13th Tribe). So in Genesis 27:40, the father Isaac blessed Esau with a conditional blessing - IF... then.... (if Jacob breaks the law, then Esau will get the material blessing - the banks) and Jacob sinned.

    Revelation 11:15 "The Kingdom of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ: and he shall reign forever and ever". Luke 1:31-35 Jesus was born to be king. Greater is He that is in you than he (Lucifer) that is in the world!

    Revelation 13:17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name (666).

    God is the only power there is. Lucifer is not a power (the only power he has is money); he is the arch-deceiver. He thrives on illusions, myths and lies. The myth of the two powers (God wrestling against Evil) is nothing else than a lie. It is nothingness. If you had all the powers of God in you right now, which you do, you would not have to use it, because there is nothing to use it against or to challenge it with. The two power myth (among many other lies) comes from the Garden of Eden when Lucifer deceived Adam and Eve. God asked them: "Who told you that you were naked?" Note to the readers: You will have to keep your mind open and be prepared to change your mind set with this Idea Replacement if you are to grasp this very simple thesis.

    After spending 60,000 years in caves with the "homme savant", during the Ice Age, God decided to reproduce His Holy (complete) character in man. Six thousand years ago, in the Garden of Eden, God (Elohim meaning family) planted a spirit in man Zech. 12:1 to connect with His Holy Spirit, and inspire man with things of the Spirit: language, music, arts and God’s master plan of 7,000 years duration, to reproduce Himself in man. God and the Word proceeded to make man after their image (holy character). Although Lucifer had already coveted God’s throne in heaven by saying in his heart: "I will be God - I will sit on the Throne" and had been cast out of heaven, he still had the responsibility to govern the earth with one third of the angels. HE IS THE PRINCE OF THE AIR (Media/TV/Entertainment). He was in the garden deceiving man, still is, and has a plan to interfere with God’s master plan both through World Ruling Empires and False Churches (Religions) by teaching his greedy get way of life opposed to God’s loving give way of life. Reference: Armstrong Correspondence Bible College.

    From Adam to Noah there is 1,000 years; from Noah to Abraham 1,000 years; to David another 1,000 and to Jesus 1,000 years - since Jesus 2,000 years for a total of 6,000 years. There is another 1,000 years to come (the Millennium when Jesus will be ruling the earth) and after that, there will be 100 years for the Judgement (White Throne) and then, there will be a New Heaven and a New Earth. Right now we are at a couple of seconds prior to midnight on day #6.

    We are way passed the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse, Rev. 6, which are: the white horse (false religions); the red horse (wars); the pale horse (pestilence/famines) and the black horse (death). There are still a lot of Tribulations and Heavenly Signs to come only Jesus can stop the complete annihilation of people on earth:
    The 7th Seal is the 7 Trumpets:
    1st trumpet - 1/3 of the trees & grass will burn;
    2nd turmpet - 1/3 of the sea will become blood;
    3rd trumpet - 1/3 of the fresh water will become bitter;
    4th trumpet - 1/3 of the light will be darkened;
    5th trumpet - (1st Woe) Rev. 9 - War between the King of the South (KoS) (Arabs) vs. the King of the North (KoN) which is Germany-led European Union
    (E.U.) Dan.11:40;
    6th trumpet - (2nd Woe) A Russian & Chinese Army of 200 million, Rev. 9:16, 1/3 of mankind will meet at Megiddo, 55 miles Northwest of Jerusalem, and kill
    1/3 of 7 billion people, Rev. 16:16; at that point people should repent Ezekiel 14:6;
    7th trumpet - (3rd Woe) (all within 24 hours) Return of Jesus Christ, the first Resurrection of saints and the
    7 Vials: 1st vial: Sores; 2. bloody sea; 3.bloody water; 4. burning sun; 5. darkness & pain; 6. Euphrates River dries up, and 7. the
    greatest earthquake ever when Jesus’ feet land on Mount of Olives and the mount cleaves in two - Zech. 14:4.

    Since the beginning Lucifer oppressed the world through very cruel and murderous World Ruling Empires – the Great Image in Daniel 2 and 7 and the Beast in Revelation 13 and 17 all represent the same government by Satan, on earth:
    I. Chaldean Empire Nebuchadnezzar 825-538 B.C. (head of gold);
    II. Medo-Persian Empire 539-330 B.C. (shoulders and arms of silver);
    III. Greco-Macedonian Empire 334-323 B.C. (torso of brass);
    IV. Roman Empire 30 B.C. – A.D. 476 till Christ returns, now. The two legs are the Western Capital: Rome & Eastern Capital: Constantinople. The feet & toes are 5 nations in the West, and 5 nations in the East of E.U. The feet and 10 toes of iron (KoN) mixed with clay (KoS) are ten contemporaneous (at the same time) European kings in the E.U. In Revelation 13 & 17, the seven-headed beast and the ten horns represent 10 successive resurrections (governments), of the amalgamated Church and State - Holy (Catholic Church) Roman Empire (State) KoN, swift, hard and brutal as iron ruling government or Globalisation is leading the whole world, through filthy rich empires from the four quarters (4/4) of the earth: North, East, West and South (N.E.W.S.) Europe, Russia/China/India, the Bush Administration in U.S. and the Conservative Party (Mulroney/Harper government) in Canada, and Arabs into a New World Order (NWO). The last resurrection was the 9th horn (WWII). The coming 10th resurrection’s propaganda is to foment hatred between Iran and Zionists (Israel) to provoke WWIII; and most churches are totally hypnotized by the Illuminati (Lucifer).

    The NWO loves: Police states, Arts and cheap labour. It has a pattern of slavery and unimaginable cruelty, genocide, threats, assassinations, poisonings, plant temptation and use sex blackmail (as in Lewinsky) and botched operations and always use a fall guy (someone to blame if things go wrong - like Hitler in WWII, Hitler being a Rothschild's illegitimate cousin, and Bin Laden for the War on Terror) typical signature of the NWO. While Germany was winning WWII, they got Hitler to commit suicide, while a sex blackmailed U.S. President, Woodlow Wilson in 1913, had agreed to appoint a Zionist Braedeis as U.S. Supreme Court judge, through a Rotschild's law firm, Braedeis quid pro quo Britain to bring U.S. troops for Balfour Act, if the Brits would give Jerusalem to Germany by recognizing the Zionists, the Nazi’s new creation, ISRAEL, in the Balfour Act to Rothschild, then the Brits would win the war. Britain had no more right to do that than China has the right to give Canada to U.S. Also Google, Charles Lindbergh 1913 speech re. the invisible government of the monetary power.

    After he had a dream, General Albert Pike, an Illuminati and a Freemason, completes his military blueprint for three World Wars to enfold: WWI he planned to foment war between the British and the Germans; WWII - the slaughter of Jews to foment hatred against Germans and to create the Zionist Nation, a military base in the Middle East; and WWIII - foment hatred to play Iran, the Islamics, against the Zionists so they (Zionists) can exterminate Islam. Reference: The History of the House of Rothschild, by Andrew Hitchcock. All this evil is planned by the Bilderberg Group (13 rich families of greedy gangsters).

    The Rothschilds (Esau) violent, barbarian murderers, claim that they are Jewish. They are from Khazaria and had to convert to Jewry by instructions of the King. In slaughtering millions of real (Jacob) Jews, the AshkeNAZI Jews, what they like to call themselves, met in secret underground and planned to force real Jews from all over the world to move to Jerusalem and they created a Zionist Nation. Every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew (90% of Jews today are Khazars - Ashkenazi Jews). Their Roth (German for red) schild (sign) is the red Hexagram, 9/11 IX XI, which geometrically and numerically translates into the number 666. Adolf Hitler did not have a grand-father (but he had his character). Joseph Rothschild's son looks exactly like Hitler.

    The stone, in Daniel 2:45, was cut out of the mountain without hands, hitting the statue's feet, it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream [is] certain, and the interpretation thereof sure. That stone cut without hands means a discourse not thought by universities, nor by man, but is inspired from God, and is the Word of God, the Torah (you will know the Truth and the Truth will make you free. John 8:32) and when it hits (now) the statue on the feet it vaporises Satan’s ruling kingdom on earth (illusions/myths and lies) once and for all. Daniel 2:44. Zechariah 4:6-7 This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts. Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain...

    Then Jesus will rule during the Millennium, Revelation 14:14, where the lamb will sit with the lion and there will be the great harvest of souls. Jesus’ resurrection was the Barley Harvest; the Church, to help Him during the Millennium, is the Wheat Harvest and during the Millennium will be the Grape (people) great Fruit Harvest. Now is not the time to harvest for the Kingdom of God for He has planned one thousand years to do just that.

    The Illuminati also known as the: Freemason, Luciferian, Ku Klux Klan, New World Order owning half the wealth of the world, Rothschilds' 500 Trillion Dollars have a plan by making money through wars. Very similar to 1817 where they fomented war between Britain and the United States wishing on the U.S. for refusing their bank, that the U.S. would be in such deep debt fighting that war, that they would surrender to the Rothschilds - in recent years, their latest fiasco, showed the same pattern. Before Bush Jr. took office, the budget had over a 250 Billion Dollars Surplus and after, Bush left a 1.3 Trillion Dollars Deficit. The Republicans wasted the Surplus, plus all the tax Revenues for twelve years and signed 1.3 Trillion Dollars into legislation for wars industries in order to bring the United States under the control of the Bankers. The Zionists, Corporations, United Nations, International Law, European Union, African, Asian and Indian Markets, Saudis, UNESCO, IMF, NATO, NAFTA, World Trade Organization, Military Industrial Complex (MIC) Eisenhower's farewell speech, Globalisation, Green parties, Pharmaceutical companies, Viagra & the porn industry, Sex trade & Pedophilia, Opium, Vaccines induced diseases infirmities and deaths such as AIDS in Africa being a crop of mass vaccinations in the 1940-50s and other mass murders and genocides in Africa and South America, Pandemic diseases, Street drugs, Mass incarceration of black men, the Food Industry, Water, Oil, Gold & Silver, Diamonds & precious metals (mining), religions, media, TV, University & College education, research & development, cell phones, toys, makeup, tooth paste, coffee and toilet paper etc. And we wonder if 9/11 was a conspiracy? IX XI was necessary.

    May God bless Jacob ( Ezekiel 37) and punish Esau ( Ezekiel 38 & 39). Remember, it is better to know this in silence than to speak and be silenced!


Viewing page: 3 of 3

< Previous Discussion Page  

1   2   3  

 

Do you have a Bible comment or question?


Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!