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2 Peter 2:5, declares Noah to be a "preacher of righteousness". However, we're not told how he communicated God's Message to the people, whether during the building of the Ark ( Hebrews 11:7) or at other times. His soul would have been vexed by the wickedness around him, as Lot's was with the Sodomites ( 2 Peter 2:7,8).

Genesis 5:32 shows Noah's age as 500 years old & then when he was 600 years old ( Genesis 7:6), the flood waters came upon the Earth. And somewhere between that time ( Genesis 6:3) God declared that man's days "shall be a hundred & twenty years". I guess that's how the understanding arose about God's time limit for man to take stock of his remaining days.

Genesis 5:29

"And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed."

it was easy to grow from the ground before it was cursed.

being justified by faith that is a gift that we didn't labour for.

Chris,

You mentioned the flood. According to the dates of generations listed below, the flood was about 4,369 years ago. Does this list agree with your thinking, creation...in the ball park?

Jared became the father of Enoch at 162. Genesis 5:18 460 + 162 = 622

Enoch became the father of Methuselah at 65. Genesis 5:21 622 + 65 = 687

Methuselah became the father of Lamech at 187. Genesis 5:25 687 + 187 = 874

Lamech became the father of Noah at 182. Genesis 5:28 874 + 182 = 1056

The Flood started when Noah was 600. Genesis 7:6 1056 + 600 = 1656

Calculated BC date for creation: 4004

Calculated AM date for the Flood: -1656

Calculated BC date for the Flood: 2348

Current Year (minus one): +2021

Number of years since beginning of Flood: 4369

God bless

Genesis 5

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he (Adam) begat sons and daughters:

As was nothing in Genesis 4 that requires that Cain met people in the land and married into their clans.

We don't know if Cain and Abel had any other siblings at the time of Abel's murder, but we do know from Genesis 5:4, that Adam and Even had other sons and daughters.

It is not at all unreasonable to think that as the population of the world increased they spread out from around Eden into other lands. (NOD). All the members of the first generation would have married siblings or children of siblings. The genetic mutations we are concerned about now would not have been a problem, only after generations would mutations have crept into the gene pool and the danger of close intermarriage (consanguinity) come into being. In the first generations after Adam and Eve, human population would only have increased by FAMILIAL intermarriage.

Mishael comment: the gene pool was so new and strong, that (incest) was able to withstand genetic weaknesses and disease that it causes in our present time.

In fact, it is not until the book of LEVITICUS that we find it forbidden to marry siblings, half sibling and in laws.

Where did Cain find a wife? In the gap between Cain's banishment and Cain's marriage, ( Genesis 5:4). Adam and Eve had more children, probably many more children. We don't know how much TIME PASSED before Cain took a wife, but it's possible that Adam and Eve's children married and had children.

Cain probably married a sister, or maybe a niece. His wife came from the only available population of humans: the descendants of his parents Adam and Eve.

Mishael

The Bible does not speculate where Cain got his wife.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve had many children.

Genesis 5:4 "And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat SONS AND DAUGHTERS:"

Obviously, one of those daughters eventually met up with Cain and they got married. God permitted that at the beginning of creation and since man was still close to Adamic perfection, this did not cause birth abnormalities. It is the only way that humans, at the beginning, would have been able to procreate - they had to marry their bother or sister.

In fact, we do the very same thing today, really. We are 1 large human family and we all have Adam as our father. When we marry a fellow human being, we are really marrying our brother or sister.

Kindly.

Good day.

Good day my brothers Earl and Spencer,

As I would like to put my perception on "Heaven". I myself believe Heaven to be an actual place. Not just in us as stated in Luke 17:21. As we are the tabernacles of God where He dwells when we receive His Holy Spirit. Even as God is life and in everything weather Blessed to receive the Spirit of Christ or not. Job 34:14-15.

The Holy Bible is a spiritual book though many, many, things are literal not just spiritual. God's wisdom is so divine that almost anything may be taken in both ways. For maybe a reason God knows why.

Some things to consider I find fascinating. How both Enoch and Elijah were literally taken up by God in there human bodies and never saw a physical death. Genesis 5:24, 2 Kings 2:11-12. I believe Elisha literally saw a chariot of fire. In the book of Enoch there are amazing things we truly cannot comprehend.

14:8 A vision thus appeared to me.

14:9 Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning impelled and pressed me forwards, while winds in the vision assisted my flight, accelerating my progress.

14:10 They elevated me aloft to Heaven. I proceeded, until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal. A vibrating flame surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror.

Paul stating about a friend with a vision in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. That he could not fully explain.

Also that Jesus Christ in His glorified body( Luke 24:39) was able to appear and disappear. Also He was taken up into the clouds Acts 1:9-11.

Fully understanding Heaven we are not to able. It is so beyond us it could be anything as nothing is impossible with God.

I could go on and on about this but would be a very long conversation. Maybe just adding some people with NDE's having out of body experiences, in the spirit, able to testify of things going on when they were dead. Seeing their own bodies of flesh before them. Being taken up to be in the presence of the Lord.

Glorious

Genesis 5:4 "And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:"

According to this verse Adam begat multiple sons and daughters. Eventually, one of these daughters met up with Cain and married him.

LIONel,

This information is not recorded in The Bible. We know that Noah started having son when he was 500 and he completed the ark when he was 600. I would think that he needed his sons to gather the materials and build the ark.

How old was Noah when he started to build the ark, and how long did it take him to build it?

As far as I checked, only 2 men walked with God; 1-ENOCH in Genesis 5:22&24.

2-NOAH in Genesis 6;9. God bless you

The genealogy from Genesis 5:1 to Genesis 6:9 is Noah's. Since he descends from Seth, only Seth is mentioned. He doesn't mention either Cain or Abel directly. He only notes that Adam "had sons and daughters" to let us know that Adam and Eve had more than just the three sons mentioned by name in Adam's records. In every generation there is likely to have been multiple siblings, but only the one that directly leads to Noah is mentioned each time.

Adam & Eve were immortal and designed to live forever in paradise, until they disobeyed. Then a radical change happened which was they became mortal. And all his offspring were no longer in the image of God. Genesis 5:3 "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:" Seth was made in Adam's image, not God's image. "For as the body without the spirit is dead,..." James 2:26. "For if through the offence of one many be dead,... Romans 5:15. So before we are saved we are dead and Jesus said, John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." Meaning you are dead. We know that a man has a body that is not dead, and our soul is not dead for when we get saved our soul is cut loose from our body. So that leaves the spirit to be the one that died when Adam sinned. And that is why Jesus said in John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." Notice that when he said, "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit"; the capitol "S" Spirit. An notice the "born again" in verse 7. If you have to be born again, that would mean that you at some time in the past, were born of the spirit. Meaning Adam died spiritually when sinned. No guessing, it's all bible.

I believe this is what you would be looking for, He went to preach unto the the souls that were lost in the great flood from Noah's day. As for Adam and Eve there is no indication to where they are, in heaven or hell that I'm aware of.

Genesis 5:5 "And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died."

1 Peter 3:19 Context 16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. 17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

I read where those that die that has never excepted Christ atonement are chained in outter darkness until the final judgement

Outter darkness thus being the hell they are called from for the white throng judgement and cast into the lake of fire thus the second death !

Genesis 5:1, Genesis 5:4.

Born again people have a spirit that has been made alive to God. How do you explain that!

Scripture tells us plainly we have a body and soul. The soul returns to God who gave it. The parable of the rich man tells us, he lifted up his eyes in hell. Period.

I don't know. But one thing I do Know is the nails did not break any of the bones. The bible says none of his bones was broken.

Luke 16:22-23 ESV / 6 helpful votesNot Helpful. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. read the rest yourself. (Hades is not hell, But a place where we will be judged.)

Where actually was the nail imprinted on Jesus feet... what area ?

How do you understand Luke 16:19-31? Some believe it to be another parable of Jesus, but the fact that Jesus uses first names seems to indicate that Jesus was speaking of real people in real situations.

And Paul also speaks in 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 of the fact that while he is in the body (alive on Earth) he is not in God's Presence. But if he is absent in the body (no longer alive on Earth), then he is in God's Presence. Again, some would say that there is a 'gap' between death & man's spirit going to be with the Lord or to Hell but I can't grasp this interpretation, given Paul's inference of a 'no gap' declaration.

We also see 1 Peter 3:18-20, where "Jesus was quickened by the Spirit (after His Crucifixion) & by the Spirit visited those other spirits held captive in prison, those who were disobedient from Noah's days. The point here is not who those spirits were but that they were held captive, whether in a state of suffering or in transition to another state of punishment.

What should we make of such indicators of one's spirit (& soul) departing at death to a place of rest or torment?

The Bible teaches that the WICKED DEAD are awaiting the Great White Throne Judgement. Everyone has to see their deeds and be judged. Hell is for those that Reject Gods plan of Salvation totally.

Nobody is burning in Hell right now. Those who have ever lived and died are asleep in the grave waiting for the return of Christ and the resurrection. Notice that the Apostle Paul does not describe dead Christians as being active or alive in heaven.

They are asleep-dead-until they are resurrected at Christ's second coming. See 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.

Paul used sleep as a metaphor for death. Yet, from an early age, most of us have been taught that sinners who died were right now being tormented in eternal hellfire. Who's right? Paul or your Sunday School teacher? The Bible says Paul got it right!

But what about Revelation 20:10? Many use this scripture to "prove" that at least two human beings-the "Beast" (Antichrist) and the "False Prophet"-will be tormented eternally in Hell. So let's take a closer look:

"The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the Beast, and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever" ( Revelation 20:10).

Look closely at that verse. Do you notice that one word-are-is in italics? That means it isn't part of the Greek text, but was added by translators trying to "make clear" what's in the verse. The problem is, the translators made it clearly wrong!

Satan the Devil will go to the same destination as the Beast and the False Prophet but he will go there as a spirit-being, and will be there long after the Beast and False Prophet-like other unrepentant sinners ( Revelation 19:20; 20:15) have been burned up and destroyed ( Matthew 25:41).

Some people alive have seen visions of hell.

i thought God took someone to hell, but i dont know the reason or who it might have been, can you help me out on this please, thank you. ?

against or not in agreement with.

Some of the profits speak of the last days but revelations does mostly.

We're not given any details after the Ark finally rested on dry land & the Covenant God made between Him & all generations issuing from his sons (i.e. to set a rainbow in the sky as His promise never to destroy the Earth with a flood).

We do know that Noah & his wife looked after some land, planting a vineyard ( Gen 9:20) & eventually he died at 950 yrs of age (verse 29). He would have been over 500 yrs old when the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat, so was still in his 'prime' though we don't know of his wife's state. Since the Bible only speaks of the Earth being populated through his sons (verse 19), we have to assume that these boys were all he had, for if there were any more sons, then we might well have races that are separate to what is revealed. Maybe he had daughters.

God the Father

Jesus the Son of God, and the Son of Man

The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ. The 3rd Person of the Godhead.

Sons of Noah: Shem, Ham and Japheth

The Genesis flood narrative tells how Noah and his three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, together with their wives, were saved from the Deluge to repopulate the Earth. ... In chapter 11 verses 10-26 a second list of descendants of Shem names Abraham and thus the Israelites.

In the Book of Jubilees (160-150 BC) the names of the wives of Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are as follows:

* Wife of Noah - Emzara.

* Wife of Shem - Sedeqetelebab.

* Wife of Ham - Na'eltama'uk.

* Wife of Japheth - 'Adataneses.

In the Biblical view, the listed children of Japheth, Shem and Ham correspond to various historic nations and peoples. In the typical interpretation, these sons of Noah correspond to three races: European, Semitic, and African. Alternate divisions claim Euro-Asian Japhet, Semitic Shem, and Afro-Asian Ham.

The Genesis Rabba midrash lists Naamah, the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-Cain, as the wife of Noah, as does the 11th-century Jewish commentator Rashi in his commentary on Genesis 4:22.

In the medieval midrash Parry, J. H. (ed.). "5:15". Book of Jasher. Translated by Moses, Samuel., the name of Noah's wife is said to be Naamah, daughter of Enoch.

Since the 17th century a number of suggestions have been made that relate the name Ham to a Hebrew word for "burnt", "black" or "hot", to the Egyptian word m for "servant" or the word m for "majesty" or the Egyptian word kmt for "Egypt".[4] A 2004 review of David Goldenberg's The Curse of Ham: Race and Slavery in Early Judaism, Christianity and Islam (2003) states that Goldenberg "argues persuasively that the biblical name Ham bears no relationship at all to the notion of blackness and as of now is of UNKNOWN (color) etymology.

Just use Google and look At Noah's maps and charts on Geneology.

Mishael

Do we know the names of Noah's sons wife's?

Did Noah have any children after the floood?,Thank you

bible talks about thelast days all thought the bible. Type in search last days.