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Verse 1 is admittedly a trickly passage the way it is written; sounding like the transgression of the wicked is speaking to a godly man (David) and stating that there is no fear of God before his eyes. Having seen commentaries on this subject not finding satisfactory cross references; it would seem it is stating that within my (David's) heart is testifying that the state of transgression of the wicked is due to their lack of fear of God. The next several verses talk about self gratiation (flattery-verse 2); verbal caustic language (v. 3); and plotting in his bed what he will do next (verse 4). There is a sober warning of those who become reprobate as verse 3 where apparently there was some wise or good standard for those individual(s) previously. Conversations and words seem to be a major red flag there.
Securing the mercy of God is largely indicated by the TRUST mentioned in verse 7. David asks for the "foot of pride" and "hand of the wicked" to "remove me". The concern probably is those who will cause us to find an excuse to fall away. The doom of the wicked once again is sealed in verse 12.
We do well to heed to the admonitions in James as to not letting there be a root of bitterness in us. (also see Hebrews 12:15). The love of money is the root of all evil ( 1 Tim. 6:10). We are wise to be cautious not to be ensnared by those things which plunge men into perdition which is in the verse immediately before ( 1 Tim. 6:9). We need to watch the tongue and control it as James admonishes as well ( James 3:1-12).
It seems the "great falling away" may be as Jesus explained with the seed, parable. When they face trouble, not rooted in good soil; Please look at Matthew 13:6,20,21, notice Jesus says we will go through "the great tribulation" Matthew 24:21,22,29, Matthew 24:30, in context please read both full chapters, also please look at : Revelation 6:9-11, if Jesus says endure to the end, Matthew 24:13, 2Peter 3:3-14, 1Peter 5:2-11, Hebrews 12:23-29, Hebrews 10:35-39, Colossians 1:23,
1Peter 1:2-9, Jude 1:24,
Hopefully this is helpful
Let us extend our faith and knowledge of the LORD by praying and calling on GOD for HIS hand upon our current leadership in Washington. Our trust in Scripture and obedience to the same will bring about change as GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST see best for our times. May we lay aside every weight, especially the sin before us, and "let us run with patience the race that is set before us. Looking unto JESUS the author and finisher of our faith;..." Hebrews 12: 1b, 2a
So much before us to pray for and be active in; there is much we can do in HIS name. Let us start from the beginning: Romans 10: 9, 10; Ephesians 2: 8-10; Matthew 28: 18-20; 2 Chronicles 7:14, 15; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2: 1-5; 2 Peter 1: 1-8. Many more passages, I'm sure you can add to the list, Amen!
GOD bless everyone on this forum, and may the LORD GOD meet all your needs. "Who shall separate us from the love of CHRIST? ... Nay, in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us." Romans 8: 35, 37, 38, 39
The LORD bless you, and keep you! The LORD to make HIS face to shine on you, and be gracious to you. The LORD to lift HIS countenance upon you, and give you peace. Numbers 6: 24-26
Don't forget to vote on November!
October 11, 2022
Chris gave a good answer, I'd like to add to the discussion. Please note the verse right before, Jeremiah 29:11, Jeremiah 29:10, sometimes we want GOD to change our situations "right now", sometimes HE does, but I believe this promise, is for GOD's people when we need the encouragement for the troubled times & endurance in longer seasons. Notice in Daniel, he & his companions had went through many difficult moments but GOD in miraculous ways delivered them, protected them & even encouraged them. I believe it was after Daniel was thrown in the lions den that he fasted & humbly prayed about the promise made in Jeremiah 29:10,11, Daniel 9:1,2,3, still waiting on that promise of 70 years,
note Daniel 6:1,2,3, (for why I place the timing, seemingly after lions den) the noted scriptures referring to about Daniel's encouragement, & companions, some say "the greater the trial the greater the miraculous": Daniel 1:8,9,17, Daniel 2:12,13,17,23 Daniel 3:12-27, Daniel 4:19,24,25, Daniel 5, Daniel 6:7,10,16,22,28, Daniel 9:23, Daniel 10:11,12,18, Daniel 11:1,
Luke 10:19, there are moments that are painful but when we look at Salvation, the pruning, witness to strengthen the Body of Believers, then we realize it didn't "hurt us".
I hope these scriptures give you strength & hope= 1Peter 4:12,13, 2Corinthians 1:3-7, John 15:1-2, 1Corinthians 4:5, 2Corinthians 3:2, Zechariah 13:9, Malachi 3:3, 2Timothy 2:10, Psalms 30:5,
In correction= Isaiah 48:10,11, Malachi 3:2, Proverbs 3:11-35, Hebrews 12:7, 2Thessalonians 1:4,
Endure even undue trials= 2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, remember Timothy was with Paul in ministry during persecution. 1Peter 2:19, Mark 13:13, James 5:10,11,
James 5:13-18, 2Chronicles 7:14,
Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging
1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. 4Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
Brother said forgive them father for they know not what they do and another
One in Hebrews 12:2 I can't begin to comprehend the who for the joy a spiritual
Quality that was set before Him endured the cross dispising the shame this verse
Is incredible. These things apply to all who are endeavoring to Agapeo so that being said I will see you here there or in the air brother.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto man once to DIE; but after this the judgement.
This death happens by THE COMING OF THE LORD, HIM in YOU, his body.
This SECOND COMING cannot be seen: it comes like a thief in the night.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was ONCE OFFERED (first coming of Christ) to bear the sins of many; and to them who LOOK for him shall he appear a SECOND TIME (second coming CHRIST as the HOLY GHOST) without sin, UNTO SALVATION.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.
Revelation 9:18 By these was the THIRD PART of man KILLED (first death, not literal), by the FIRE, and the SMOKE, and the BRIMSTONE, which ISSUED OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.
All of us, THE DECEIVED, are KILLED, destroyed, by GOD'S WORD.
All that is LEFT is TRUTH and LIFE.
John 14:6 ....I AM TRUTH .....I AM LIFE ....
Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall BURN WITH FIRE a THIRD PART .....
Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the THIRD PART through the FIRE ...
Zechariah 13:8 And it SHALL COME TO PASS, that in all the land, TWO PARTS shall be cut off and DIE (literal, go to the grave); but the THIRD PART shall BE LEFT (never see death) therein.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we (that died the first death, that came to the truth of Christ's resurrection) SHALL REMAIN (having become ONE WITH TRUTH: CHRIST) and be CAUGHT UP together with THEM (the Old Testament Saints, resurrected with Christ) in the clouds (symbolic of God's Temple, the cloud was always over the tabernacle of the Old Covenant), to meet the Lord on the air, so shall we ever be (in the presence) with the Lord (the IMAGE OF CHRIST).
Zechariah 12:7 And the Lord shall save the tents of Judah FIRST (the Old Testament Saints; resurrected with Christ), that the GLORY of the HOUSE OF DAVID (those born again of TRUTH) and the glory of the house of Jerusalem (same people) do not magnify themselves against the house of Judah.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will DO NOTHING, but he revealeth his SECRET to his servants the Prophets.
God bless you.
Lord willing; this commentary will be helpful for those who really haven't seen the repeated themes of the unity of the Godhead; and the predetermined "elect" group who are chosen for Christ to be revealed; and who therefore will respond to show saving faith. A major point that I tried to bring up in earlier chapters was that there is always a corresponding interaction going both ways; so that confession of faith and all of man's actions prompted by the Spirit are simultaneous actions. KNOWING us according to Matthew 7:23 is part of saving faith; hence the absence indicates we are tares. Our soul testifies with His Spirit ( Romans 8:16) that we are God's children.
None of the contradicts the necessity of confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts that Christ is Lord ( Romans 10:9). We are asked to repent; but it is He who grants the gift of repentance ( Romans 2:4) and this also has a group of people in mind (the Jews as a whole who come to faith) in Acts 5:31 and the Gentiles in Acts 11:18. We still our to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5-6). All good fruits therefore come from the source of God; and are evidences of saving faith ( Matt. 7:17). We need to remember that God chastises all He loves ( Hebrews 12:6 etal); and therefore He prunes back so even more fruit is produced ( John 15:1-2). He is doing the work therefore; our WORKS are merely the external evidence that indeed He is working from the inside out. These have been prepared for us from before the foundation of the world ( Eph. 2:10).
The other doctrines such as God's sovereignty; our totally depraved nature; and perseverance of the saints are covered in many scriptures and can be covered in other studies. As far as free will is concerned; God accomplishes His purposes through the vicissitudes of man; and the wiles of Satan and all his minions. To not submit to our Creator is folly ( Psalm 14:1; Psalm 2:2; Rev. 19)
Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: (This is the word of God - not an opinion)
Romans 6:15-23 (verse 18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (comment-What if you die suddenly while committing one of the above)
Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. ( There is a difference in a fault and willful sin)
......All these animals are just symbolic of ppl and their animalistic natures....All these animals are ppl that have been converted to this lil Child....which is the H.G. that is leading them....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in....We all must birth a lil Child which is the H.G....Thats y he has to KNOW US.
Thats y Isaiah 11:6 is telling us about KNOWLEDGE.. He has to KNOW US in order for the good seed to be sown in us resulting in a birth, the kingdom has to come via a lil Child which is the H.G. the Child of Promise
......Knowledge shall cover the earth as the waters cover the seas which is an intimacy with Christ the bridegroom....Remember when God told Jeremiah about the New Covenant....God said i will KNOW them all from the least to the greatest which is gona result in a heavenly birth....As Jeremiah saw all the world in travail and birth pains....In fact 27 times in the O.T. the prophets saw this world in travail and birth pains....Which is the result of this knowledge that is gonna cover the Earth....O thank you Jesus for this knowledge your intimacy with humanity....Thus all men will be bornagain....I will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST....OK Gotta go do my Walk...GBU ALL
I seem to see a difference here: one where salvation is never possessed because of trusting in the Law, and the other, where salvation is undermined, not enjoying the fullness of God's Grace, receiving chastisement. The Hebrews writer goes on to write about Esau (v16) who relinquished his birthright (akin to a sinner rejecting God's Offer of salvation meant to be received & enjoyed by all, having lost all hope). He then introduces Moses ("him that spake on Earth" v25): if the Israelite disobeyed Moses' warnings, punishment of death ensued. And then to Jesus, the Mediator of the New Covenant (v24): how much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him.
In all these warnings, chastisement of the believer is God's Rod to bring the erring child back into line. But as those who refused to obey Moses under the Law & those who turn away from obeying Jesus under Grace, an untimely death will follow if warnings are not heeded. Some see the "shall we not escape" (v25), indicating that salvation would be lost if we turn away from Christ (as in Esau's rejection), but my question: is the matter of salvation spoken of here, or, the matter of death (as those so judged under Moses)? Does the believer lose his salvation or is he first chastised, even to loss of life, if he refuses to listen (he turns away - his ears/heart) from Jesus? An interesting passage; trying to marry up all the verses associated with it from verses 5 to 25.
Please consider reflecting on Proverbs 24:16, Hebrews 12:11, I Peter 4:8, Romans 12:9-21.
A few thought about what you have written...
Hebrews 12:15-17
"15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it (the blessing) carefully with tears."
Can one fall of the grace of God? One case is the above. Verse 15 says because of a root of bitterness in a believers heart this can happen.
In verse 16,17 a person that is a fornicator or a profane person can not inherit the blessing(salvation). How come? Isn't the grace and forgiveness of God available to all people? Yes but under the condition of repentance (and not only). If one chooses to not repent for sins he does, even if that person is a believer, then the grace of God is not available to him, like Judas. If one chooses to leave God's way and get back to his original sinful life then the grace of God is not available to him, like Demas. There is always a condition so that the grace and forgiveness of God is available to people. And this is called Repentance. Believers who eventually leave this world in their unforgiven sins do not enter Heaven.
Judas most possibly didn't repent for Jesus' betrayal, and even if he actually did repent he didn't proceed with asking God's grace and forgiveness. Repentance is not enough, if not asking God to forgive and not asking for Jesus' Blood. Wordly people often repent for things they do but they are not forgiven by God because they don't ask for forgiveness and the Blood of Jesus. The 5 unwise virgins (virgin means believer) were not allowed into the Marriage because they ended up in darkness, not having light in their lamps. The light represants a pure life. Darkness represants a life with sins.
GBU
Isn't everyone a unbeliever before they are a believer?
Isn't everyone a liar?
Isn't everyone fearful?
The lake of fire is Christ.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
If your in Christ and Christ is in you; then your in the FIRE.
Matthew 3:11 ....and he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.
Malachi 3:2 And who shall abide the day of his coming (Christ in you, Colossians 1:27, baptised into his name)? and who can stand when he (TRUTH and LIFE, John 14:6) appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire and a fullers soap.
Malachi 3:3 And he shall set (in you) as a refiner and purifier of silver: that YOU may offer unto the Lord an offering in RIGHTEOUSNESS.
God Bless You.
I pray this disagreement doesn't offend anyone, That's not my intentions. I will start with verse 9 through 11 to focus on his humanity.
9) But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels FOR THE SUFFERING OF DEATH, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10) For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, IN BRINGING MANY SONS UNTO GLORY, TO MAKE THE CAPTAIN OF THEIR SALVATION PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERINGS.
( Verse 10. The CAPTAIN of our salvation means he's the author and finisher of our salvation. the suffering is the death on the cross for all humanity as seen here in Hebrews 12:2.)
11) For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified ARE ALL OF ONE: FOR WHICH CAUSE HE IS NOT ASHAMED TO CALL THEM BRETHREN,
Jesus didn't take on our humanity so he can be tempted and resist sin, he took on our humanity to redeem us as our Kinsman redeemer by way of the cross. See Revelation 5:2-9.
That brings us to Verses 17-18.
"Wherefore in all things IT BELOVED HIM TO BE MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN, THAT HE MIGHT BE A MERCIFUL AND FAITHFUL HIGH PRIEST in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
FOR IN THAT HE HIMSELF HATH SUFFERED BEING TEMPTED, HE IS ABLE TO SUCCOUR THEM THAT ARE TEMPTED."
First let's deal with the word tempted.
Greek:
Transliteration: peiraz
Pronunciation: pi-rad'-zo
Definition: From G3984; TO TEST (objectively) that is endeavor 6
scrutinize entice discipline: - assay examine go about prove. .
Jesus entire life was a testing!!
Jesus was PROVOKED just like we are, that doesn't mean he was tempted to sin as if he had to withstrain him self from sinning.
We have the opportunity to do wrong as well as Christ. THE OPPORTUNITY IS THE TEST!
We have the opportunity to do wrong AND WE WANT TO DO IT. Christ didn't!
Because God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him! John 3:34.
God bless.
With anything else; it helps to look at the scriptures and meditate on them day and night ( Joshua 1:8). Obviously; we need to ask the Holy Spirit to remove things that would be roots of bitterness ( Hebrews 12:14-16). The evidence of bad fruit from a corrupt heart is found in the gospels ( Matt. 15:19). Other verses such as 1 Peter 2:1-2 and Ephesians 4:26-32 offer further advice.
I hope you will trust the Lord for these changes; not yourself. I found that after the anger that came from a contentious divorce after my wife had an affair was dealt with by much prayer; and counselling based on a study in the Book of James. (see James 1:19). God can and will give you unconditional love even toward your enemies. That was how I was able to forgive my dad after years of mental abuse; by telling him that I loved him. It is helping me having to live with him now.
Agape..Rich P
the service went well for the most part. I shared from Scripture, highlighting Timothy, who was taught by his mother and grandmother from a young age and how I felt that way about Mom showing us her faith and desiring us to know the faith of the gospel of Christ from the start of our lives. I shared that her example of faith and determination to bring her children up to know the salvation of God in Christ Has been the best gift she has given me. I also shared from Hebrews 12:1-4 concerning the great cloud of witnesses that surround us and how my Mom is now one of those witnesses and that in time I will become such a witness in the cloud of those who have passed from death into eternal life. Several of my neighborhood friends from childhood were there and one in particular came up to me after all my siblings had shared and told me how much he appreciated my witness and how glad he was to share the same faith with me. That blessed my heart.
The only concerning part was when my sister (who said she was not going to come to anything pertaining to Mom again after we divided up all of her belongings) showed up to give her spiritist occultic drum beating "presentation". I went in the kitchen to help with food at that time so I did not have to be a part of her ceremony, as did several others who shared the same sentiment. I came back out when she was sharing some pictures and some remembrances. After wards, she was just going to leave and not participate any further. I asked her to stay and have lunch with our family and guests. she declined. I then offered to make a take home meal for her. She said yes, and I got that done for her. She left for the rest of the service but came back after it was over to take home some flowers and some things that she had let us borrow. Well, I tried, and I was kind to her. But we shall see if she changes her mind about anything in the future.
There was about 25 direct family members and 25 relatives and friends.
At this point; I don't know about you but this concept is absolutely terrifying when we consider that we are made from the dust.
When this occurs will be the final Great White Throne judgment of Rev. 20. That is when the wicked are judged; I am not a Post-Millennium person so I believe that those who are of the church now will have been in glorified bodies and clearly "not harmed by the second death" ( Rev. 2:11). This thought of the fate of the wicked I really can't bear to think about.
So; for now it certainly gives us more than ample incentive to preach the Word; in and out of season ( 2 Tim. 4:2). It gives us confidence knowing that all enemies of God in particular Satan who mess with us now are going to be judged. Through the Spirit we can love our enemies; while still realizing that it is not up to us to seal their fate; but to be a faithful witness so that we can receive a full reward ( Psalm 126:5-6). It also helps us to move past all those worldly desires that would threaten to undo us; and have a healthy fear of the Lord. Remember He chastises all He loves. ( Hebrews 12:6). In the meantime; the coming Tribulation and birth pangs are all part of the process to refine us as well as draw those who He has called for His own.
We all need each other as we see the Day draw near.
Agape; Rich P
It is necessary but painful here to come to a realization that these attributes only exist for those who are His children. It is VERY clear from such verses as Isaiah 66 that the wicked will indeed be seen by all in their judgment; so clearly the righteous will in their state as well. We see the Transfiguration indicating that Moses and Elijah were seen (although Elijah was translated). John 8:56 seems to indicate that Abraham was aware of when Christ came as well. To be absent from the Body is present with the Lord. ( 2 Cor. 5:6). The indication of our presence as Kings and Priests ( Rev. 5:10; etal) and the prayers of the saints before God seems to show an awareness among those in God's Presence and even about what is going on in the earth ( Rev. 5:8).
We see David also when his son died saying that he would go to him; but his son couldn't come to him ( 2 Sam. 12:23). This is another clear indication of eventual reunion with God's people.
What will be something to look forward to is that we will be without sin. Therefore; our relationships truly will be enhanced to a greater degree and not inhibited due to all the issues we have in this life. To truly understand this; we need to have a mindset of service toward Christ; and part of our reward is to see the results of those sacrifices in time and resources building one another up in the faith and supporting those evangelizing today to fulfill the Great Commission. We are all adopted children and part of that great cloud of witnesses ( Hebrews 12:1-2). We shall see Him as He is and be raised in incorruption ( 1 Cor. 15:42). What a glorious day that will be!
Agape.
If you would 1st please consider the way it makes you feel. As you stated "horrified" that's not of GOD. Galatians 5:22-25,
2nd please consider all around you. Is there peace, is there light, anything to be thankful for? Is searching out news also symbolic of wanting to "know" what's happening in the news" Genesis 2:17, Romans 16:19,
3rd consider why there's only bad, horrible, divisive news? Hebrews 6:8, Proverbs 22:5, Why do they report the one horrible thing or person & not the million good? Is it meant to trigger rage? Hebrews 12:1, Luke 6:43-45,
1John 2:16, Titus 1:15, 2Samuel 22:27, Psalms 18:26, 1John 3:3, 2Peter 3, James 3:17, James 1:27, Philippians 4:8, Romans 8,
1Corinthians 4:5,
The Word also says: Numbers 11:12, Jude 1,
Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging
Zion is first mentioned in 2 Samuel 5:7. Zion was originally an ancient Jebusite fortress in the city of Jerusalem. After David's conquest of the fortress, Jerusalem became a possession of Israel. The royal palace was built there, and Zion/Jerusalem became the seat of power in Israel's kingdom. When Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the meaning of Zion included the temple area ( Psalm 2:6; Psalm 48:2,11,12; Psalm 132:13). Therefore, the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:6, "Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God."
Zion is also used in a spiritual sense in Scripture. In the Old Testament, Zion refers figuratively to Israel as the people of God ( Isaiah 60:14). In the New Testament, Zion refers to God's spiritual kingdom: Hebrews 12:22. Peter, quoting Isaiah 28:16, refers to Christ as the Cornerstone of Zion ( 1 Peter 2:6).
Mount Zion, as a geographical area, is now the focus of much dispute (mainly between Jews & Muslims). The Bible is clear that one day Zion will be the sole possession of the Lord Jesus, and Zion, both the nation and the city, will be restored. ( Isaiah 52:1; Isaiah 60:14). When Jesus returns to Earth, His rule will be from Jerusalem ( Zechariah 14:1-4; Luke 1:32,33). I hope you can see why Zion is so important & especially significant in God's Eyes as a special City of God (on Earth).
This is a Prophecy, and it contradicts your understanding of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall COME TO PASS, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall ALL FLESH come to WORSHIP before me, saith the Lord.
Isaiah 66:24 And they (all flesh, worshipping God) shall go forth and look upon the carcases of the men (themselves) that have transgressed against me; for their (all flesh, worshipping God) worm shall not die, neither shall their (all flesh, worshipping God) fire be quenched, and they (all flesh, worshipping God) shall be an abhorring to all flesh (themselves).
Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man which is a worm?
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
God Bless YOU!
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast in to the sea, and a THIRD PART of the sea became blood.
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters (seas) which thou sawest, where the whore setteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of a mountain made without hands ....
Hebrews 12:22 But you are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, and unto a company of innumerable angels.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Psalms 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits, his ministers a flaming fire.
Exodus 7:17 Thus saith the Lord, In this thou shall know that I am the LORD, Behold, I will smite with the rod that is in thine hand the waters (peoples, nations) that are in the river, and they shall turn into blood.
God Bless You!
Revelation 8:7 And the first angel sounded, And there followed hail mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and a THIRD PART of the trees were burnt up, and all the green grass was burnt up.
Isaiah 28:2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one (Christ), which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, and a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to earth with his hand.
Psalms 18:12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hailstones and coals of fire.
Psalms 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens (in us), and the Highest gave his voice, hailstones and coals of fire.
Psalms 148:8 Fire, and hail; snow and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word:
Ezekiel 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the LORD God; Behold I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming fire shall not be quenched, and all faces from the north to the south shall be burned therein.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
God Bless you!
Don't over-analyze this too much. If the Lord allows it, then you have to Trust Jesus to close that door and open a new one.
Luke 6:22
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
Hebrews 12:14
Follow peace with ALL men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Proverbs Chapter 6
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
May the Lord help you put this behind you.
You are exactly right WE DIE daily.
Our mind of flesh being renewed to the mind of Christ.
We can only come to the TRUTH of the NEW BIRTH, it happens at the death of this body.
There is ONLY ONE LIFE, CHRIST, and Christ is God.
Our body of flesh dies, LIFE (God) continues, we switch BODIES.
1 Corinthians 15:38 ...and to every SEED; HIS (Christ is the SEED) own body. Seed always begats the same seed.
It is beyond our mind of flesh to comprehend that Christ can live in us, yet can also appear as a man walking in flesh.
This is what we can look forward to.
Christ said that where he is we will be also; Christ is IN CREATION bringing creation to TRUTH and LIFE.
We as priest (with the body of Christ) in HIS Kingdom, the likeness of Christ, will be IN CREATION bringing creation to TRUTH and LIFE.
Revelation 10:11 ....thou must prophesy again (in your new body) before many peoples and nations, and tongues, and kings.
Go ye into all the world teaching and preaching the gospel of the kingdom. This is only possibly in the next AGE (world).
Read and study: Isaiah 66:18-24 and Jeremiah 51:19-33 and Revelation 2:26-27
These are prophecy about the Sons of God, we not a perfect Son of God till we leave this AGE (world).
Hebrews 12:23 ...... and to the spirits of just men made PERFECT.
God Bless YOU!
Hell: the Hebrew word sheol, a place of no perception were the dead go, the grave.
Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger .....
Is this fire literal, started with a match, of the fire of the Lord.
Luke 12:49 And I have come to send fire on the earth; and what will I (be), if it (the fire) already be kindled?
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Luke 12:50 And I have a baptism (fire), to be baptised with, and how am I straitened till it BE ACCOMPLISHED.
Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15 .....but he himself shall be save, as yet by fire.
Psalms 86:13 For great is thy (the Father's) mercy toward me (Christ): and thou (the Father) shall deliver my (Christ's) soul (body) from the lowest hell (sheol, the grave).
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell (sheol, the grave) hath enlarged herself, and open her mouth without measure ....
Mark 9:43
I have never seen a Christian that believed these verses, if they are literal, otherwise they would have cut off their hands and feet to keep from going to hell.
It's an analogy.
You believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those (literal and physical) things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things (SPIRIT) which cannot be shaken remain.
God Bless YOU!