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  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    You can be saved after you die that's why it says preach the gospel, not go save and why death is called sleep. God's wrath purpose is to make every knee bowel and every tongue confess and what we are saved from. We are the church, us together not a place or a building. Now you will have to suffer God's wrath and not deny Christ to be saved if you die lost, think about all who died before Christ ever came and it says Jesus went and preached to them after he was crucified 1 Peter 3:19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

    20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
  • Donna - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    Wait a minute. What??? Where is the church going? When will the church be gone?

    Please, I haven't any recollection of reading this. Where do I find this info in the Bible?

    My old pastor(BTW, please pray for him) used to say that in the end times the world would be like a huge witches Coven Full of darkness and evil like nobody has ever seen before.
  • Antonio James on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    will anybody be able to besave after the church is gone
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Utibe. The one who has been truly saved & has God's Spirit in them, can never be lost back into Satan's domain. These people will remain faithful to their Lord, suffering all things for His sake, & hating even the smell of sin entering their lives. There are many 'Christians' who faithfully attend a Fellowship, witness to others & give every appearance of being saved, but when adversity comes or even when committing sin isn't all that important, they fall away, turning their backs to the One they once called their Saviour. The Lord knows who belongs to Him; 2 Timothy 2:19, "the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

    Here are some Scriptures showing God's Part in saving & securing those who have truly repented & turned from a life of sin - being born again of His Spirit:

    John 10:27-29; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 4:30; 2 Corinthians 5:17; 1 Peter 1:3-5; 1 John 5:13; Romans 8:33-39.

    But there is also the other side, where some Scriptures seem to indicate that a Christian can apostatize, such as:

    1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:3; 2 Peter 2:20-22; Hebrews 3:12.

    But the ultimate test of real faith is when our love, even our lives hang in the balance. Will we deny Christ - will we save our lives rather than lose it for Jesus? Many 'Christians' would under examination want to save themselves, yes, even those who attend a Fellowship & follow through with Christian disciplines. We should not have to hear those words in Matthew 7:21-23, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    I think you may find your answers in : 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, Luke 1, Luke 2, 1 Corinthians 12, John 11:51,

    Hebrews 3:1-6, Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 7, Hebrews 8:1-13, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 10,

    Romans 12:4-6, Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    To add, let's not forget the worst punishment they faced : Hebrews 3:8-19, Deuteronomy 1:26-46, Numbers 14:22-24,

    Numbers 14:31-33*, read all of Numbers 14, Numbers 20:12, Acts 7:40-43, Hebrews 8:9,

    Hopefully this is helpful & adds well to your discussion.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother Dan, before you can disobey you have to be given the command and with ever command comes a warning of the punishment that goes with that command.

    Before you act on the command you either believe or do not believe.

    If you believe and then obey, then there is no negative outcome, and no punishment.

    If you don't believe and disobey, then there is a negative outcome, and punishment.

    Adam and Eve had no KNOWLEDGE of what death was, so their UNBELIEF came before disobedience.

    When young children are commanded by their parents not to touch the stove or it will burn them, they have no KNOWLEDGE of what being burned is. In UNBELIEF they touch the stove. Now they have KNOWLEDGE.

    It was necessary and preordained that man would eat from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE, you have to have KNOWLEDGE of hot and cold, etc., etc., everything has an opposite, so man had to have KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, they are the fruit of the same tree.

    The CHURCH in the wilderness was told to search out the promise land and see for themselves that it was a land flowing with milk and honey. And God said I WILL GO BEFORE YOU and drive out the inhabitants of the land.

    Upon returning all 12 said yes it was like God said, but 10 told the people there are giants in the land and they will destroy us.

    But 2 told the people, yes there are giants in the land; BUT GOD SAID, he would drive them out.

    The people BELIEVED man and NOT GOD. UNBELIEF CAUSES DISOBEDIEBCE.

    Hebrews 3:19 We see they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF.

    Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF.

    God Bless You.
  • Earl Bowman - 4 years ago
    THE TRUE ISRAEL

    In the Old Testament Israel was the CHURCH, a shadow of the coming true CHURCH.

    Christ is the CHURCH, Christ is the promised ISRAEL through Isaac.

    Christ SAID, destroy this CHURCH and in three days I will RAISE it up.

    If you bear CHRIST IN YOU, you are the true house of Israel.

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house (church), whose house (church) we are......

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the LAMB are the TEMPLE OF IT.

    Matthew 19:28 .....ye shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Zechariah 12:7 And I will save the tents of Judah FIRST...

    The new covenant PRIESTHOOD comes from the tribe of Judah, the old covenant priesthood came from the tribe of Levi.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother Dan, you want be judged in the final judgement, you are being JUDGED NOW, by the words of God. Judgement is, COMING TO TRUTH.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come (today) that Judgement must begin at he house of God.....

    Hebrews 3:6 For Christ as a son over his own house, whose HOUSE WE ARE.

    2 Corinthians 5:10 We must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ....

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery...Christ in you..

    The judgement seat is in you, you are now APPEARING before Christ and judgement is bring you to TRUTH.

    John 16:8 And when he IS COME, (he has already come to you, because he abides in you, CHRIST IN YOU) he will reprove the world of sin, and or righteousness, and of JUDGEMENT:

    John 16:9 OF SIN, because they believe not on me. (sin is singular and it's UNBELIEF)

    John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and you see me no more,

    You can't see him because he is IN YOU and his RIGHTEOUSNESS becomes your righteousness)

    John 16:11 Of JUDGEMENT, because the prince of this world is JUDGED.

    WE are the PRINCES OF THIS WORLD, and the truth of THE WORD has DESTROYED US and REPLACE US with THE PRINCE OF LIFE.

    Matthew 12:28 But if I (prince of life) by the spirit of God cast out devils (princes of this world) then the kingdom of God (CHRIST IN YOU) has come unto you.

    God grace us with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    God Bless You.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother S Spencer, New Jerusalem is not a Literal city, but a city whose houses are men, Son's of God, just like Christ. ( Hebrews 3:6) As all things were given to him by the Father, we are given all things by Christ, POWER to rule the nations. AS Moses was made a god over Pharaoh ( Exodus 7:1) the ELECT are going to be made gods over the nations, and the nations want be able to STAY THEIR HANDS.

    In Ezekiel 38 this is describing the second resurrection.

    In Revelation when John is describing the city (new Jerusalem) the talks about the walls of the city.

    In out parts of prophecy it says our walls are salvation.

    In Ezekiel 38:11 When Gog comes against the elect, it says UNWALLED villages.

    Revelation 20:7 After the thousand years, flesh is released out of prison, death and the grave, the bottomless pit, and they come against the ELECT. But the Elect brings down the FIRE of the LORD on them. The stubble in the is BURNED UP.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    Brother Dan, the throne of God is a LITERAL PHYSICAL place, CHRIST IN YOU. As Christ is the throne of his Father, because the Father indwells Christ, Christ indwells you, making you the THRONE of the Father, Son and you.

    Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh, I will grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

    Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN..... the NEW dwelling place and the NEW throne of God..CHRIST IN YOU

    Isaiah 66:1 ........where is the THE HOUSE ye built unto me

    Hebrews 3:6 ...But Christ as a son over his own house, whose HOUSE WE ARE

    Isaiah 66:1 .......and where is my place of REST.....The Father and His Son Jesus Christ and YOU are at REST TOGETHER in the NEW heaven, the NEW temple made without hands, the NEW place of worship ( John 4:19-22).

    Cease from your works as God has ceased from his works, the WORKS were FINISHED at the cross.

    The only LABOUR left is to bring man TO KNOWLEDGE

    Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people go into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitudes dried up with thirst.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Sister Sacha, the Old is a shadow of the New. Death PASSED OVER the house covered with the blood of the LAMB.

    We are the HOUSE of the Lord ( Hebrews 3:6) and we are covered with the blood of the TRUE LAMB; therefore DEATH will also PASS OVER US.

    Confusion comes when we don't understand the two resurrections and when they occur, the first and second death and when they occur, the two judgements and when they occur, the thousand year reign and when it will occur.

    The answers are in Revelation, but the answers are SIGNIFIED ( Revelation 1:1).

    God bless you!
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello, this question was just asked yesterday, and probably every week on this discussion area.

    Here's verses about it:

    Link

    Here's a previous discussion I found via advanced search and selecting discussions.

    Link

    More verses:

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that"

    "Christians no longer have freewill to sin? Is that true?"

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    2 Peter 2:20-21
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Jeremiah 25:33

    Daniel 9:24-27

    Daniel 12

    Job 26:10

    Matthew 10:20-23

    Matthew 24:11-14

    1 Corinthians 1:8-9

    Revelation 2:25-27

    1 Peter 4:7

    1 Peter 1 whole chapter relevant

    Ephesians 3:19-21

    Hebrews 3:12-15

    Luke 21:8-10

    There are many more, I hope these help
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother Good Guy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Are you a man? Do you buy and sell? We best judge ourselves by the words of God.

    Proverbs 9:1 WISDOM (CHRIST) hath builded her house... ( Hebrews 3:6)

    Proverbs 9:2 She (WISDOM)(CHRIST, THE WORD) hath KILLED her beast...

    Have you (the beast) ONLY been wounded ( Revelation 13:3) by God's WORD OR have you (the beast) been KILLED ( Revelation 13:10) by God's WORD?

    Have you (the beast) stumbled ( Romans 9:32) over the stone (CHRIST) OR has the stone (CHRIST) fallen ( Matthew 21:44) on you and ground you to powder?

    We DIE daily to God's WORD.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 134 - 4 years ago
    Laurine, may CHRIST UN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    God is Spirit.

    YOU are the HOUSE OF THE LORD, Christ in the FORM of SPIRIT (Spirit is Life and Truth) lives IN YOU.

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ is a son over his own house; whose house are we .....

    You DIED with Christ on the cross. You were RESURRECTED to LIFE and TRUTH with HIM.

    The WAGES of SIN is DEATH.

    Christ PAID your WAGES; therefore, BELIEVE and you will never see DEATH.

    1 Corinthians 15:52 ....DEATH is swallowed up in victory (resurrected with Christ to LIFE and TRUTH).

    Spirit gives you life, because there is ONLY one life and that life is (the SPIRIT of) Christ.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) which worketh IN YOU both to will and to do his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 1:11 In whom (SPIRIT) we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him (the SPIRIT), who worketh all things after the counsel of his (the SPIRIT'S) will.
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Hui Ning Wu,

    I would like to offer another perspective to your comment: "And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation no matter what you do!"

    I ask, is this true? If true, I would love to commit sins tonight just for fun, because no consequence. Would love to do drugs, have an affair, go to certain clubs to party, maybe even get in a fight, because if we're saved no matter what it wouldn't matter and God would still reward me?

    So, is this true that it's from God and not from satan? Before I do that I would first need to find it in clearly scripture and no other scripture would contradict it. So, if I look through the Bible for evidence, I find the following:

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    This suggests grace won't be given until Jesus comes- maybe even after we're judged. But people are telling me I'm saved and have grace now, so which is true? Does anywhere else in the Bible say that?

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Ok, I guess it does. So, we're not 'saved' yet, huh?

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    So, believing alone isn't enough? So, maybe faith and actions matter?

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    But many people are telling me the race is already won and that I can party. So, who is right: God's Word or man's word?

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 - this suggests 'trying' is good.

    Evidence showing I should NOT commit sin. God bless...
  • Gerald - In Reply on Romans 8 - 4 years ago
    ChrisE, thank you for responding! My friend I'm a little confused about your summary. You mentioned law/prophets lets begin there. I think it's safe to say that Moses was a prophet to be reckon with(according to old test. and new) that's what drove the Pharisees crazy about Jesus. According to "law" Jesus was behaving like a "mavrick" skirting around it but never breaking it always leaving them arguing among themselves about it. Well Jesus did say Matt. 5;17 I came not to destroy the law but fulfil it. Having said that lets take a look at what the law said about washing or baptizing. God told Moses the prophet in Exodus 30:15-17 that if the priest did NOT wash they were dead men. That was law. But fulfilling that law Jesus ( THE HIGH PRIEST) Hebrews 3:1-5 told John I need you to baptize me...(I'm going to the Altar{Calvary} eventually) and I need to be washed. If we are to be is followers, ambassadors, disciples, Christians or whatever and he(JESUS) was baptized shouldn't we then follow His example? In Christ, Gerald.
  • Rachael - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Adam,

    I understand your frustration and I feel the same way. In this world, nothing saddens me more than unbelievers and how it makes God feel.

    Ephesians 4:18

    They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

    2 Corinthians 4:4 important

    In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    People's Bible Notes for 2 Co 4:4

    The god of this world. See Joh 12:31,40 Php 3:19. Satan is called the prince of this world, and the god of this world. Hath blinded the minds of them which believe not. By his devices he blinds the eyes of men so they should not see the light of gospel. The image of God. He who would see God may see him in the face of Christ. See Joh 14:9.

    Revelation 21:8

    But as for the cowardly, the "faithless", the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

    2 Corinthians 6:14

    Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

    Hebrews 3:12

    Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.

    Hebrews 12:14

    Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

    John 3:18

    Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

    Hebrews 11:6

    And without faith it is impossible to please him for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
  • Elizabeth Worrell - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    I bind satan and these evil spirits that have come to torment this person in Jesus Name. Bind up the enemy and cast it out..Have Faith that God will heal you and restore you for His Glory Amen
  • Free - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    Dear Friend in Jesus.

    From time to time we all hearing the warning bell's.

    If it's so, go to Him who have done Greater things Jesus Christ. Fall on your knees and ask and pray what is it?

    Example, it can be someone you know who needs something, or is it something you need to say too someone.

    It can be some thing wrong with you too. Like, are you willing too do whats come up?

    Search in the Holy Spirit He give you the answer. And if you get It, dont get worried about it, But do it at once!

    Then you realize the freedom of Christ. He dont turn the back on you. ps. dont forget to do it in Jesus name. He who is Gods Beloved Son.
  • Free - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    He know about your affected and sorrowful time, it remind me as well that the time is short. Thank You. We all have only today! Tomorrow we dont know anything. Hebrew v.8. Tell me to soften all my hard thoughts and ideas, dont stand against Him. But stand with Him. And be patient. Nothing is like my though anyway. Flow in His Grace ill pray. Eph. 6. 11. God bless you with all heavenly wisdom.
  • Hugh flores - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    Read God Word Everyday In The Name Of Jesus Christ.
  • Liza caneba on Hebrews 3 - 4 years ago
    hello..good evening po.... what news about little..myself have problem of hear alarm voice still of my mind painmind..

    i cant sleeping. becuse i still hear alarm voice right..so can ask? you help explain with me wrong or evil?....please must you infrom me okay? thank you God bleess.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Lex,

    I gave you my word that I would study those verses with you. Here is my understanding of these scriptures one at a time. This may take more than one post. If I can fit more than one verse in a post, I will do so.

    2 Peter 3:17: Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.

    The word steadfastness and the word unstable in verse 16 mean the same thing in reference. Your steadfastness is your solid maturity. But if you follow false doctrine it will make you unstable and expose you to all kinds of spiritual problems. In verse 16, he is telling them that the apostle Paul has taught these very same things that I am telling you.

    It says beware. So be watching for yourself. Guard yourself, lest you be led away, and you fall from your own steadfastness. It has nothing to do with salvation. It has to do with maturity. It has to do with firmness, solidity in Christ.

    Hebrews 3:12: Take heed, (pay attention) brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. These are special words used in the book of Hebrews for unbelief. It literally means to reject the persuasion of God's Spirit. A true believer under the influence of God's Spirit would never do that.

    The word departing is the word apostasy. A Believer cannot commit apostasy. An unsaved person who is following along with the teachings, being enlightened, and maybe even agreeing, but when hardship and persecution comes, they depart. Those are the ones who commit apostasy.

    More to follow:
  • Lex - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Here are some scriptures I looked up that indicate that believers can fall from grace, depart from the faith, or apostatize. Once again I do not know everything and if I am wrong I appreciate insight and discussion.

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8
  • Jesse - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Lex,

    The Holy Spirit in a believer causes them to come to true repentance. I say true repentance because there are two separate words in the Greek text for our English word repent. One is METANOEO, and the other is METAMELOMAI.

    Metanoeo (Repent) is true repentance. It's when a person makes a decision to change the direction of their life and surrender their life to Christ. But with that comes the understanding that we cannot change ourselves. It takes the Spirit of God in us to make that change. Metamelomai (Repent) simply means you are sorry for your actions. The bible tells us that Judas repented, but the word that was applied to Judas was not Metanoeo.

    If you have the Holy Spirit living inside you, He is always working. God's Spirit inside a believer is never dormant. I agree with you that we can be deceived. If we think something is coming from God, how do we know? Satan knows the bible very well. We see that in the instance where he was tempting Jesus out in the wilderness. Satan quoted scripture perfectly. He just misapplied it. So how I know it's from God and I'm not being deceived? I have to trust Christ.

    You mention "Genuinely wanting to reconcile with God." Here's a thought. It wouldn't be genuine if God's Spirit didn't put it on your heart. Our flesh wants nothing to do with God and is constantly trying to get away. It's the Spirit of God in us that continually draws us to Christ and brings us to confess the things that disrupt our fellowship with Him.

    As far as getting to a place to where we clear on what the scripture says, good luck on that one. I don't know how to get to that place. All I can do is study the word, pray for understanding, and place my trust in the Lord.

    In Hebrews 3:12, the word departing is the word apostasy. A believer cannot commit apostasy. Only someone who is involved, maybe intellectually understanding, being enlightened, and even agreeing with the truth, but when the hardships come, they leave. That's called apostasy.
  • Lex - In Reply - 4 years ago
    In terms of the Holy Spirit, if you still want to repent does that mean the Holy Spirit is working in you because I know that people can be deceived? I mean with thoughts of unbelief and the warning "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin."- Hebrews 3:12-13 I keep feeling bad.

    So if you realize that your thoughts are wrong and you genuinely want to reconcile with God, you can repent right? But sometimes some of the scriptures have me worried that it could be too late? Like the point of no return.. God is not the author of confusion and He does not give a spirit of fear so how do you get to a place where you are clear on what the Scripture says?
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I BELIEVE, Christ is the BOOK OF LIFE just as he is the tree of life, the lamb of God, etc. If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU, then at that point you are in the Book of Life and being made ONE IN CHRIST you become a book of life, ALSO.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of GOD.

    If you take a SEED and plant it; the part that emerges looks nothing like the SEED that was planted.

    But at MATURITY when it is HARVESTED and put in the grain bin; it is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted. We have the SEED; Christ himself, the WORD planted in us. Now we look nothing like the SEED; but at HARVEST (death of this body) we will be put in the grain bin (Christ body, immortality) and we will be like him; we become SEED to be planted, ALSO.

    Matthew 12:37 For by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be justified, and by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be condemned.

    If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU; you are being judged NOW.

    John 12:48 .... the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him ...

    1 Corinthians 11:31 If we would judge ourselves (by the word), we should not be judged.

    1 Corinthians 11:31 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that judgement must begin at the house of God ...

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we...
  • Pilgrim - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Faith (belief in God) and Obedience to God's WORD is the basic requirement for fellowship with Father,Son through Holy Spirit which inturn is brought by His grace and mercy.

    Faith and Obedience essential for His rest to us-salvation

    Hebrews 11:6 KJV - But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    Romans 11:30 KJV - For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

    Hebrews 3:12 KJV - Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

    Hebrews 4:2 KJV - For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

    Hebrews 4:3 KJV - For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

    Hebrews 4:6 KJV - Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

    Romans 16:26 KJV - But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

    2 Corinthians 10:5 KJV - Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

    1 Peter 1:2 KJV - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.


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