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Isaac,

Romans 8:28 basically states that the plan of God will be done through His "elect" children.

God also utilizes Satan's children to bring about His perfect plan, look at Isaiah 10:5, 19:25, Jeremiah 42:18, etc.

The "elect" children of God concerns "predestination," look at Romans 8:29-30, 1 Corinthians 2:7, Ephesians 1:5, 11.

Predestination has to do with understanding that there are 3 earth and heaven ages spoken of in the word of God, 2 Peter 3:5-6 speaks of the 1st dispensation of time; 2 Peter 3:7 speaks of the 2nd dispensation of time; and 2 Peter 3:13 speaks of the 3rd dispensation of time.)

The 1st earth and heaven age ended due to the fall of Satan, and is recorded in Genesis 1:1-2. The earth BECAME without form and void; God did not make it that way!

The 2nd earth and heaven age came into being when the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters and God said Let there be Light ( Genesis 1:2-3)

The 3rd earth and heaven age is what all children of God look forward to.

God "did foreknow" ( Rom 8:29) each and every one of us because we were all there in the 1st Dispensation of time.

Jeremiah was (foreordained) a prophet BEFORE he was born ( Jeremiah 1:5).

God hated Esau BEFORE he was born because Esau despised his (birth)-right and (likely) followed Satan in the 1st earth age ( Genesis 25:32-34, Malachi 1:3, Romans 9:13, Hebrews 12:16)

Adam

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How do we still have other races after the flood? The answer is because He has told us that throughout all of Scripture. God said that these nations of the earth would be against the nation of Israel for Israel's correction ( Isaiah 10:5), and that these nations would also be blessed at the end ( Isaiah 19:25).

On a side note; you commented concerning the Tower of Babel.

It is interesting to note that the dispersion of Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and their descendants is given in chapter 10, before the cause of their dispersion, which is recorded and explained in chapter 11.

This is an example of a figure of speech known as Hysterologia, (Hys-ter-o-log-i-a). This figure is used when something is put last, which ought, according to the usual order, come first. It is, in a sense, a transposition of connected events.

So then, the events of ( Genesis 10:5, 20, 31, 32) took place after the events of ( Genesis 11:1-9), and the events of ( Genesis 10:5, 20, 31, 32) took place because of the events of ( Genesis 11:1-9).

In other words, it was only after the "tower" ( Genesis 11:4) was built, and judgment was pronounced on the sons of Noah and others, that their language was then confounded, and the "GENERATIONS OF THE SONS OF NOAH" ( Genesis 10:1) were "scattered" ( Genesis 11:7, 8) from that general area into the different "isles" ( Genesis 10:5), "lands" ( Genesis 10:20), and "nations" ( Genesis 10:31), and "peoples" (Revelations 17:5) of the earth.

Chris,

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The information given concerning other "flesh," accounting for a male and female representative of each race to come aboard the Ark can be verified through Scripture. This can absolutely account for the other races of people on the earth after the flood of Noah's time, look at ( Genesis 6:17, 6:19, 7:15, 16, etc.).

The Strong's definition of "Gentile" is a "FOREIGN" nation from the nation of Israel. If there is no foreign nation to Israel because we are all from Adam, then what FOREIGN lands are the children of Noah proceeding into in Genesis 10:5? "By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations." Who are the "Gentiles"? How are the Gentiles a product of Adam if the Gentiles are FOREIGN to Adam? It can't be both ways.

The information concerning the "giants" being on the earth after the flood is also verified by Scripture in Genesis 6:4, "and also after that," also look at Numbers 13:33, Deuteronomy 3:11. If the "Sons of God" mentioned in Genesis 6:2, 4, are not fallen angels, then who do "giants" come from? Humans' mating with humans does not produce a giant.

If God said that "ALL FLESH" ( Genesis 6:17) would be destroyed that breathed the breath of life, how did the giants survive? Answer- because He told us they survived in Genesis 6:4. The great whales and sea creatures that breathe air survived, but we are not told that. We are told what we need to know. God uses both literal and figurative language, and it is our job to figure it all out. What we do know is that the word of God is the Truth.

How do we still have other races after the flood? The answer is because He has told us that throughout all of Scripture. God said that these nations of the earth would be against the nation of Israel for Israel's correction ( Isaiah 10:5), and that these nations would also be blessed at the end ( Isaiah 19:25).

Chris,

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In addressing your comment mentioning that God would not properly be representing all races; I will state that God chose Adam and his lineage to bring forth, umbilical cord to umbilical cord, the Savior of the world ( Genesis 3:15). That promise by our heavenly Father made this particular lineage the most important lineage to ever walk on the face of the planet. All other peoples and nations mentioned in the Bible are only due to their interaction, good or bad, ( Isaiah 10:5) with God's chosen people and the nation of Israel.

We are all children of God, blessed by Him, and given freewill to believe whatever we want!

On a side note, you state that Adam and Eve were made "in the image of God." The PLURAL words of God stating "in OUR image, after OUR likeness" ( Genesis 1:27) is the intention of God to make the mortal features of mankind to be a physical reflection of God and the angels. We are to be a representative figure of what we looked like in the 1st Dispensation of time. We are an illusion of that spiritual body, but delivered unto these flesh bodies in order to be tried and tested by God by the very freewill He grants unto us. How could God the Father and His only begotten Son know us beforehand if the first time we came into existence was in these flesh bodies in this 2nd Dispensation of time? The answer is simple; God "did foreknow" ( Rom 8:29) each and every one of us because we were all there in the 1st Dispensation of time. The only One made in the true image of God is His only begotten Son ( John 5:37, John 10:30 John 14:7, John 14:9, Colossians 1:14, Colossians 1:15. The clear understanding that there are 3 heaven and earth ages can be found in 2 Peter 3:6, 2 Peter 3:7, 2 Peter 3:13.

Question If the beginning of the earth was the first seven days of creation found in Genesis 1:2 - 2:4, then when did the fall of Satan occur?

Trinity is not a Bible word, but Godhead is.

1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)

Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)

Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.

Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

.... dividing asunder of soul and spirit, (the word of God divides the soul and spirit)

so the Bible ALONE teaches man has a body and a soul and a spirit = 3 parts = 1 man

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness

Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE

How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?

WattRudy: it's a blessing to find someone else who studies the small things. I was fascinated with:

Proverbs 6:6-8 And. Proverbs 30:24-27

It kinda shows you that nothing escapes God's interest in His creation.

Failure is due to the neglect of fineness, and success begins with the importance of small things

The Bible ALONE teaches man has a body and a soul and a spirit = 3 parts = 1 man

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness

Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)

Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)

Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within...

So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE

How many parts is God? 3?

Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts God is 3 in 1.

(at this point in time) GOD executed a judgement on HIS chosen-people (using a heathen nation to do the execution); then GOD execute a judgement on the heathen nation. The tread that binds these 2 groups of people together is their sin's. WOW! WOW! WOW!

"O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge.." God said that He will let the wicked have all their evil imaginations without restraint, because they will not receive the love of the truth;yet in all the plagues because of their sins they won't repent!

Ref. V 13- Exactly the same theme and attitude as the Progressive Movement of our day 2017. We seem to think because we are so smart we don't need God anymore. That goes for our nation and the world. This verse supports an end time prophecy "Knowledge shall Increase".
V 21- God saved a remnant then and He is going to save a remnant again in our generation. (ie) the Rapture of the Church

"For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwell in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt." Isaiah 10:23-24 The whole world will be like it was for Israel in Egypt, when Jesus comes.

God is strong enough to defeat anything confusion that's beyond my power. God is the weapon in destructure

I think in verse 27, God has the power to liberate his people from any satanic bondage by the power of the Holy Spirit being present in His anointing. If only man will change from his evil act and return to God in sincere repentance and humility.

To all of my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus: That man of sin, the son of perdition, has been revealed to us by the Holy Spirit of God. The same is Lucifer Isaiah 14:8 thru 15 and the Assyrian Isaiah 10:5 and Isaiah 14:25 . The same is the great dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world Revelation 12:9 . The same is the lion Job 4:10, Job 38:39, Psalms 22:21, Psalms 91:13, Jeremiah 4:7, Jeremiah 25:38, Amos 3:8, Nahum 2:11, Nahum 2:12, 2 Timothy 4:17 and 1 Peter 5:8 . The same was involved in the 2005 Cedar Revolution in Lebanon Isaiah 14:8 . The same speaks very softly in his interviews see Job 41:3 yet the mighty of the world are terrified of him, and rightly so, to the point of urinating their pants Job 41:25 . The same was born in Damascus on 11 September 1965. His last name in Arabic means "the lion". Pray to our Father in heaven, in the name of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST, that we may be found worthy to escape this evil! May the Lord JESUS be glorified. Amen

God gaves us his heavenly manna the word of God. He who eat the word of God will find the truth and the truth will set us free. We must obey his words and accept his words as God 's words can give us peace, life, joy, abundance and can save our soul. We are already covered and washed from Jesus precious blood that shed for us. We must be thankful and praised Jesus for everything he have done in our lives. We must follow thy way, we as a sheep must follow Jesus as he is the good Shephered who lay down his life for us, protecting us and comforting us. We must live like Jesus and follow him and believe him that he is the Son of the Living God. Jesus says i am the way the truth and the life no man comes to the Father except thru me. We must be found in the church and hear God 's words until rapture. Jesus loves us so much that you cant imagine

The verses 13 14 of this chapter is showing us of how stupid we human can be some times,trying to take the glory that is due to God Almighty.In every success we archive in life let us learn to put pride aside and give God the glory for our success, for him alone has made it possible.

Thank God for the Precious Blood of Jesus. The Precious Blood has Atoning and Annointing power. The completed work of Calvary has set forth forgiveness of sin, healing in our bodies, and deliverance from every form of bondage.

we are reminded here that anointing is all that it requires for one to be free from that problem.That as we move from one prayer house to another, we should be praying for anointing.Once it falls on us, salvation follows, deliverance follows, breakthrough follows, prosperity, power,good health, every good gift becomes our portion

Bless you lord and I will always praise you and all of your wonderful work you do and thank you for waken me everday I love you lord in jesus name amen

If you had gone out into the streets where my poor people are you could have brought a change of heart

This prophetic piece of scripture is being fulfilled even now Church the hour grows late be busy doing the Lord s work for the hour of our redemption draws near

I believe this part of the scripture is trying to let us, to be aware of the power in the anointing. That when we see the presence of God following, we should make all posibility to be connected, for the presence of God goes together with his anointing and their and then, can every yoke be put to piece, not even the strongest proplem in u life can stand the anointing from God, for it is the source of imposibility changing to posibility.

The anointing here it was not the oil, but someone whom God has appointed to deliever Israel from the yoke of Assyrians and bring harmoney and prosperity through the Power.

The anointing or the power that is working in us is the same power or anointing that God used when he raised Jesus from the dead.

The Lord is my refuge and strength and a present help in time of trouble. HE will remove our enemies out of our way and let us shine in their presence.

This Chapter of the Bible is clear that as many in the world including Christian leaders who are making decrees against the word of God will not go unpurnished. The same sex marraige acts inacted in some USA states and other countries against the will of God will be brought to judgement. Christians, children of God and through believers should take note.

There is not a problem or cir***stances too hard that can be broken or removed by the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah saw every level of society in Israel and knew that those in power (regardless of political positions or status) did things secretly to rob the poor and helpless in order to build themselves and/or their families up. God, who created the eyes, is not blind. What all of you do in secret to others, whether individually or together with your "friends" is seen by God.

Every burden that the enemy puts on us will be destroyed or vanish away.