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May I add, The Godhead though having three are the one, eternal God there is an order of government. The Father is the head and is greater than the Son.

1 Corinthians 11:3

John 14:28

1 Corinthians 12:4-7

Isaiah 9:6-7

Luke 1:31-33

Isaiah 40:9-11

Jeremiah 23:5-6

1 John 5:20

Hebrews 1:2-3

Revelation 2:23

Hebrews 1:6-9

Job 11:7-9

Isaiah 40:12-14

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Chris Prophecy from the true God will always come to pass verbatim, prophecy from false prophets never does Jeremiah 23:21+22 so called prophecy from false prophets inspired by devil spirits will never come to pass verbatim. In 2 Kings 6 starting at verse 25 there was a great famine in samaria that in verse 31 the king blamed the man of God and wanted Him dead. Chapter 7 first two verses is a great example of revelation or future prophecy that happened verbatim from the true God.

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery (C.R. Stam)

1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization ( Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10)

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":

1) Concerns a body; a living organism ( 1 Corinthians 12:12; 1 Corinthians 12:27; Ephesians 4:12-16)

2) The kingdom to be established on earth ( Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10)

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2) The Body given a position in Heaven ( Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3)

3) Christ to be its King ( Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7)

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3) CHRIST Is The Living Head ( Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18)

4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "Before the world began," but "kept secret since the world began" ( Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11; Ephesians 3:5-9)

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4) The kingdom prophesied "since the world began" ( Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21)

5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations ( Isaiah 60:10-12; Isaiah 61:6)

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5) Jew and Gentile place on the same level before God ( Romans 10:12; Romans 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17)

6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel's instrumentality ( Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13)

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6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel's obstinancy ( Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32)

7)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel's rise ( Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23)

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7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel's fall ( Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11-12; Romans 11:15)

Hello Eric. We're so pleased to see the progress you're making with your systematic Bible reading. And you've now reached this great portion of Scripture in Isaiah.

Isaiah 7:14: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." It is true, that Immanuel is a Proper Name, but as I understand the significance of this prophecy, it was given as a sign to King Ahaz of Judah that before this Child (Immanuel) would be a little boy, the land & people who conspired to attack Judah would be made desolate & destroyed.

So the impact of this sign to Ahaz was that firstly, God would enable a virgin to conceive, & secondly, that the Child's Name would signify that this was no ordinary babe that has arrived by no ordinary birth. His coming would be that 'God is now with us', or in the Hebrew, "with us, is God". So, I don't believe that the name Immanuel was to become Jesus' Name, but that by inference, the Name would signify the Presence of God now with His people. For example, one could exclaim: this is Jesus Christ, our Immanuel!

In Matthew 1:21-25, we see the fulfillment of this prophecy, as the angel proclaimed to Joseph that this Babe will be named Jesus, fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah of Immanuel's coming, i.e. the arrival of God in human form. To give this meaning further support, we could consider Isaiah 9:6, where we read that this coming One would be called, "Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". See also Jeremiah 23:5,6 (a righteous Branch, The Lord our Righteousness). In very Truth, Jesus was the embodiment of all these Divine attributes, but no one in Israel ever called Him by any of those names. So these names, as also Immanuel, can be understood to be representative of Who this Jesus is: truly God & now called Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God in His incarnation. The Lord bless you in your reading & understanding of His Word.

Hi Babatope. No. Ezekiel was a contemporary of the prophet Jeremiah. He was taken with the other hostages into captivity in Babylon & his ministry was to those with him in captivity. Jeremiah in the meanwhile, ministered to the Jews in Palestine.

So Ezekiel was around approximately 400 years after King David took the throne. Therefore Ezekiel 37:24's reference to "David my servant" can only apply to the One who would come after David, in the same family line as David, & would eventually fulfill the rest of that Scripture: "(he) shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them."

As King David came through the line of Judah, so would the coming King be of that lineage & will not only be King, but also the "Great Shepherd of the sheep", both to the houses of Judah, Israel & also the Gentiles who are saved. And Isaiah 11:1-5 and Jeremiah 23:5,6 speak of this coming One out of Jesse & David - and His Name of course, is Jesus.

Jeremiah 23:5-6 is such an encouragement when we would despair because of all that is broken and hurting in our nation and world. The righteous Branch, from the lineage of David, the coming King who will reign and prosper, foresees Christ's second return. He will execute judgment and justice (just in Israel?) no..."in the earth," the whole earth. The whole creation groans and travails together in pain until now ( Romans 8:22) and only Christ's return will relieve it. My challenge is not to be overburdened by worry and fear for what is happening, but to endure and wait patiently for Him. He will be called THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, for we have no righteousness of ourselves.

And Richard, respectfully, I made mention that angels were men or women delivering messages in the 2 and only those 2 verses you mentioned specifically. If you want to talk of angels in the recount of events at Sodom and Gomorrah, then it's a case where different subjects, different people, and different angels were present and were involved. Those were angels, heavenly beings God sent to bring Lot and his family out of the city. They also delivered a message from God. These are 2 totally different uses of the word angel.

In Rev. 12:7-9 you refer to heaven in this use and meaning is high and lifted up spiritual place, not the Heaven God dwells. Heaven has various uses and meanings. There is no way possible that God has enemies in His Heaven, meaning where He dwells.

Remember you're trying to correct me, believing that I don't understand the Bible, yet you argue for having sin in your life. Jesus plainly states we must sin no more. Paul stated his God given purpose in Acts 26:18 "To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me." How can one be in the light but still living in darkness?

Jeremiah 23:21-22 "I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings." Ministry that God did not send teaches falsely that we will sin more or less until Heaven. Jeremiah tells us that marks them as false teachers.

Ask yourself this "If sinners go to Heaven who ends up in Hell and the Lake of Fire?" Just to be clear, all have need to be saved, and all can be set free from sin here now by Jesus' power to save from sin. Those that reject Christ and His teachings will be rejected by Him.

Friend that is where you're wrong. Jesus saves from sins in the past only. If you're sinning presently, you did not get saved by God the Creator nor by His Son Jesus. And you won't need saved from future sins if you were saved and stopped the sin business. There is where false religion has failed. If you say you are a Christian, then listen to what Jesus told a man and then a woman in John.

John 5:14 "Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." Jesus says here "Sin no more"

John 8:11 "She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." And again here, "Sin no more". There's no room for big or little sin in sin no more.

So if Jesus told both man and woman to sin no more, how much sin can you and I do after salvation? NONE.

Jesus is bigger and more powerful than the sinning Christian experience, the get saved every night at your bedside experience, or the once saved always saved experience.

Here is what Jeremiah records that God said on false ministry:

Jeremiah 23:21, 22

"I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings."

Any preacher that teaches you cannot be saved from is a liar and God did not send him or her. If the preacher teaches of a god that is too weak to save you from sin, they are teaching about a false god.

So again I'll ask what I did earlier that has yet to be answered; If you could stop sinning, would you? If you say no, then you told on yourself that you'd rather sin. If you say yes, then why haven't you stopped the sin business? If you are going to spend an eternity with God in His Heaven, you stop the sin now. If you excuse sin, it tells us you aren't right in your heart.

I'm trying to understand your question. If you meant to ask 'why'

Genesis 37:4

Genesis 37:5

Genesis 37:6

Genesis 37:8

Genesis 37:9

Genesis 40:8

Genesis 41:11-13

Genesis 41:15

Genesis 45:5

Psalm 37

Jeremiah 23:32

So who did Esther marry? Boaz? You err not knowing the scriptures, you understand through the lusts of your flesh.

You want to explain these statutes? Leviticus 22:10-13, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, & Deuteronomy 23:7-8

I think you have not read yet 2 Ezra which is 2 Esdras in the apocrypha. After reading Ezra, 1 Esdras, and Esther (both books and in order) then you need to read 2 Esdras. God did not answer them, he was not with them, he never responded to Nehemiah's cry for Him to come and dwell with them, yet there was no answer. They were never saved from captivity by going back to the land trying to rebuild a house to the Lord. They rebelled against his captivity and he tells Ezra to tell the people there that they need to go their way (2 Esdras 1:4-9). They thought the burden of the Lord (the reason he didn't come) was because of the stranger wives ( Jeremiah 23:25-40 & Lamentations 2:14). So they put them and their children away. They were wrong. Listen to the prophets he proclaimed came from him (2 Esdras 1:38-39). 2 Esdras 2:1-17, 2 Esdras 2:33-48, 2 Esdras 3:23-4:2, 2 Esdras 5:16-19, 2 Esdras 6:57-59, Psalm 127:1. Either be in captivity still or seek the Lord with all your heart and soul and He will release unto you the wisdom and understanding of His word through your spirit. 2 Chronicles 6:29-33, Ezekiel 47:21-33, Isaiah 56:1-8, etc. etc. there is so much more... Christ comes in the full volume of the book, do not add nor take away. Cherry picking scriptures is of the false teachers who have come to deceive and the Word of God is not in them.

Ramon, when we see a Name such as Jehovah Tsidkenu, we know that this is a compound Name for God (i.e. God is still One God, but a word is attached to His Name to indicate some special aspect/feature of Him.

So, God's primary Names are: Elohim, Jehovah, Adonai, God/Lord.

His compound Names are: Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Ropheka, Jehovah Nissi, etc. And all these names can be found in the Scriptures in the original Hebrew. They further describe Almighty God.

The compound Name Jehovah Tsidkenu means "The LORD our Righteousness" & you can find His Name revealed in Jeremiah 23:6 & 33:16.

The compound Names for God as El: El Shaddai, El Elyon, El Olam, El Roi.

Matthew 7:15

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves". In the same way, false prophets are no different today. They often come in popular evangelical clothing. They went to prestigious seminaries, use orthodox lingo (like Gospel, Trinity, Kingdom living etc). And even appear godly. They often know scripture well, for even the devil quoted scripture when tempting Jesus Christ (Matthew chapter 4). However, their outward appearance does not match their inward one. They are ferocious wolves who will hurt the flock. ( Jeremiah 23:6).

Hello James,

I would just like to share what I have learned about Mark 10:17-18. The word good in Verses 17 and 18 is a special word. It is the word AGATHOS. There is another Greek word for the word good, and that word is KALOS. All throughout the bible, the word good is used. But if we just see it in English, we tend to attach one meaning to that word because we don't realize that there are different Greek words for our English word good, and that they have different meanings. You see, we only come away with one meaning for the word good in our English bibles.

But when I go to the original text, the word AGATHOS is used in both Verses 17 and 18. Jesus is going to say why did you all me AGATHOS? There is only one who is AGATHOS and that is God. Why did you call me AGATHOS? Do you realize what you just called me? You called me God. Why did you do that?

He is bringing it to this rich man's attention.

For the longest time I didn't understand these verses. I thought I was a good person, and I knew several good people. And then I read this and it was sort of like letting air out of the tire. I also wondered how others would look at themselves as not being good at all, and how it would make them feel about themselves. But then I learned what was really taking place in these two verses and it made perfect sense. There are good people (KALOS). But no one is good (AGATHOS) but God.

That is what I've come to learn. This man was referring to Jesus as God, because only God is good (AGATHOS). And Jesus was quick to point out to the rich man that he called him the good that can only be applied to God, which would make Jesus equal to God. But did you notice that Jesus never denied it?

In Luke 6:45, Jesus said a "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good;" This tells me that a person can be good, and there are good people, but never AGATHOS! Anyways, I just wanted to share this with you.

Hi Mishael as far as why bad things happen to good people:There are no good people.There are people who do good things.In Mark10:17&18,when the man came running to Him,knelt before Him and asked Him,GOOD TEACHER what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? JESUS said to him Why do you call me good?NO one is good but One,that is GOD.So you see in order to be good you have to be good twenty four hours a day. See we can,t do that,only GOD can do that.But let,s try.

False prophets have been telling lies sense the beginning. What has happen at Samaria, with the idolatry happen everywhere the word was preach. Man are tempted by too many temptations. That why God give us the ten commandments,that we must obey. If God would have punished man for every little thing,on one would be here today. Thank you father for your mercy and grace, you kept given us chance after chance. Now the coronavirus, what a wake up call.if we all shall repent and pray and turn back from our wicked ways the Lord will heal the land. Comment for Jeremiah 23 chapter.

Bob Hilt, thou doest err not know the scripture, and filling Mary with lies. Not any place in scripture doest the word "fair" have anything to do with the color of the flesh. At every place from the lips of the LORD the word "fair" is speaking of the beauty or lack of. Esther 1:11
To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to shew the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on.
Jeremiah 23:28
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.

Things change: stay the same: Jeremiah’s days: today much worse: too much money: from members:mega Churches: private jets: mansions: expensive vehicles: keeping-up-with-Jones: expensive carpet: no conviction: use water down: man replaced: Words: instead of the HOLY SCRIPTURES: given by GOD the HOLY SPIRIT: CENTURIES AGO:
PREACH GODS WORDS: IN

V#3: WOW to thee so called preachers: preaching replacement theology: God is finished with ISRAEL: and help to bring about the BDS: and antiemetic movements: All enemies of THE GOD OF ABRAHAM:ISAAC:JACOB:and their SEED Forever: ISRAEL also. Soon they ALL will have to give an ACCOUNT to GOD ALMIGHTY: God is married to the JEWISH People Forever: TheY are the APPLE of HIS EYE: The most delicate area.

The awakening of true Israel is on the world. Those who know and recognize it needs to be bold and share it with others. Jesus will return and gather His people. Thank God for the grafting in but He hasn't forgotten His dispersed children all over the world. Jeremiah 23:1-8

disciple, Jeremiah 23:24 "...Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord" God is a SPIRIT that is EVERYWHERE at once. GOD MANIFESTED HIMSELF IN A BODY of flesh and blood as JESUS CHRIST to be able to die. STILL the SAME GOD, not ANOTHER ONE. Why does anyone think it is so hard for God robed in flesh being baptized to also speak from Heaven at the same time and show a SIGN of the Holy Ghost?

Jeremiah 23 is part of the ominous warning God has given to believers. The very beginning of the chapter is setting up the prophecy of the Christian church in the last days before Jesus' returns in judgment. The history of the Hebrew nation is a mirror of the things that have come to pass in these latter days. Judgment must first come on the church...and it has already begun. May God have mercy

V. 14 - God just didn't like Sodom/Gomorrah; I guess He did (maybe) at one time, OR, His word does say he is of great mercy and slow to anger. People say there was no 'grace' with God in the O.T.; I think there was ................

"Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith"
Verse 31

Jer. 23:26-27; do these vs. remind anyone of an institution that was formed in 325 A.D.? especially v. 27.

I love in Allentown P.A. I notice some of our fellow churches don,t talk about the Holy Spirit much. they tell the bible like its a story. The bible is about u do Gods will,following God,s word with our whole hearts. Explain to the people that we are being judged by God in a spirit,and in truth. God is a spirit that we can feel when we truly sleek his anointing.

Phyllis,the lifting is not conditional.He that hath the son hath life.Otherwise,we are saved by our works.Knowing where we are going, we want to be found clean.Verses 4 5 is the Lord Jesus only. Jeremiah 23:5 6

Verse 1 is particularly instructive since it reminds us of the emergence of false prophets which the Bible warns will be hallmark of the last days. "Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.". While the warning is directed at pastors, it applies to all who preach false doctrines that cause souls to stray from the path of righteousness.

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And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! And Jesus said unto them, Seest thou these great buildings? For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ and shall deceive many.

Jeremiah 2:8 The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit. Jeremiah 12:10 Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness. Jeremiah 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Jeremiah 7:11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.