that's just one season ,One year,One summer,One harvest.What about all the other year's that we are not saved When are we going to get saved,we are in Ruth's gleaning that means we are running of time
As I read the comments on this p***age, I am reminded of the scripture in ( Revelation 22:18-19)
Which is a warning for those who distort the Word! The Bible also records in ( I Timothy 4:1) that this is another sign of the last days as well as ( 2Timothy 4:3-4) (2 Timothy3:16)" God Breathed" Read also ( 2 Peter1:19-21)(2 Peter2:1). Pray the prayer according to ( Ephesians 1:17-19), allow God through the Holy spirit to teach you, and give you the revelation, wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of His word.
Jeremiah 8:8 is only reminding us of how far we have negleted both the law and the word of GOD and how deep wickedness has eating deep into our society. It is a wake up call to our prophets(preachers), religiouse leaders and political leaders.
Jeremiah 8:8 is only reminding us of how far we have neglected both the law and the word of GOD, and how deep wickedness has been eating deep into our society. It is a wake up call to our prophets (preachers), religious leaders and political leaders.
The Judgement of God is soon to come, because priest, and the people are given to coveteousness. The people are not aware of the hour of judgement that is about to come upon them for their wickeness. We too must repent, and turn to the Lord in sathcloth and ashes. Turn from vanity, and give God the glory only for he will not share his glory with any graven image. This is why Jeremiah was weeping for the daughters of Zion because judgement was coming. Preachers should be weeping today in the congregation for the people to return to the Lord.
v.3: where? how long? v.7: appointed time? time of their coming? v.11: daughter of my people? v.15: We? v.19: daughter of my people...? that dwell in a far country....?
I was Totally shocked by NIV (and other Bible)translations of Jeremiah 8: 8 as compared with King James version (1984 ed.,).
NIV:
8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
King James:
8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
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First, I think the error arose from he (KJV)when it should be He (God).
Consequently the verse should literally read thus:
8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
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My modern English Translations will then read:
8 How can you say you are wise because you have the law of God ? Indeed God’s (written) law to you is in vain (useless) and the efforts of the scribes (in writing it) were also in vain.
8 How can you say you are wise because you have the law of God ? Indeed God’s law is mocked by you and the efforts of the scribes were therefore in vain.
Or
8 Why do you boast you are wise simply because you have God’s Law? In fact God’s Law mean nothing to you and the scribe’s efforts (in writing it ) was a waste
Or
8 Why do you boast you are wise simply because you have God’s Law? Honestly, God’s Law has achieved nothing with you and the efforts of the scribe in writing it was a waste
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As demonstrated in the whole Chapter 8 of Jeremiah, God was rebuking his people (the Jews) for not following the laws he laid down for them. In order not to repeat the whole argument as outlined by the chapter, God says their refusing to follow the laws He caused to be written down for them means that the writer’s (scribe’s) efforts are then in Vain.
God did not say that what the scribes wrote is wrong but that Jews do not follow the writings and thus the writings are in vain; of no use ; not yielding fruit, -in other words they scorn the writing and because of this, God is going to punish them.
PLEASE, PLEASE, what is happening to the Bible? Has SATAN infiltrated and corrupted the Bible beyond rescue? How can these men of ?God supposedly filled with the Holy Ghost be unable to translate simple clear passages like Jer 8:8 where the whole context is repeating the same message over and over again. I am totally FURIOUS with these mistranslations.
All these new translations are causing more HARM than good.
Before these Bible TRANSLATORS produce another version, I strongly suggest they put out a world call to all Christians to submit errors / misrepresentations they found in NIV / other Bible versions(via their Pastors) so that you don't create a bigger BLUNDER next time.
Joe: If you have read the Bible you surely would have picked the condradiction's up. However if you haven't then I will enlighten you. Let me just say that the references that I'm about to quote may not be in your Bible as there are many Bibles available on the market that are used by different Christian sects each claiming that their Bible is translated as the word of God.The references I will quote comes from the Tyndale Bible. Jeremiah 8:8
"How can you say we are wise because we have the the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing Lies"
The Condradiction's In the Bible start from;
In 2 Samuels 8:4 it reads
"David captured 1700 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders, he crippled all the chariots except enough for 100 chariots".
Now read 1 Chronicles 18:4
"David captured 1000 chariots, 7000 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders. He crippled all the chariots horses except for 100 chariots".
Other examples are;
2 Samuels 8:9-10 1 Chronicles 18:9-10
2 Kings 8:26 2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Samuels 6:23
2 Samuels 21:8
Genisis 6:3
Genisis 9:29
John 5:37 John 14:9
John 5:31 John 8:14
You see Jo All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by man. They are definitely not quotes from the bible For example;
The Trinity, Divine Son ship Of Jesus Christ, Original sin and atonement.
Jesus as he says in John 8:28 "I do nothing of myself" John 14:28 "My father is greater than I" Mark 12:29 "The Lord is ONE lord" Mark 13:32 "No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen not even the angles in heaven or the SON himself, ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS"
The word Trinity is not Biblical nor is it used in any Bibles or Bible dictionaries. Trinity was never specifically mentioned by Jesus. The formation of the word "Trinity"was presented by Athenasius, an Egyptian Deacon from Alexandria and was accepted by the council of Nicea more than three centuries after Jesus had departed from this earth.
Other such "Man made" decisions of the council contributed to the declaration of the Roman Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and the establishment of December 25th as Jesus birthday. This was done in order to have a celebration that occurred on the same day as the birthday of the pagan gods such as Nimrod (Babylon god) Krishna, (Hindus god), Mithra (Greek god) and Dionysius (Bacchus of greece)who is named the only begotten son of Jupiter and was born of the virgin mother Demeter, on the 25th of December. As you can see the celebration of the birth of Jesus is clearly an idea of pagan decent. As clear as we can read in black and white the Bible forbids even the decoration of christmas trees; Jeremiah 10:3-4 "Their ways are fertile and foolish. They cut down a tree and a craftsman carves an idol". "They decorate it with gold and silver and than fasten it securely with hammer and nails so it won't fall over".
The conclusions to my recent research on religion is that we so called true Christians are not even close to abiding by Gods laws, far from it. We are such Hippocrates.
I hope this helps Jo, May God give you blessings
Felis, A lot of words we use in this Millennium are not written in the Bible, your right, but the word 'Trinity' still originated from Athenasius, which in the days of his order had to be approved by the council of Nicea, hence the word 'Trinity' was born. If you look at Jeremiah 8:8’
Jeremiah says"How can you say we are wise because we have the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing lies."
As you say the word 'Trinity' is used to describe 'The Father, the Son and the holy Spirit' It is also described in 1 John 5:7 as
"So we have these three witnesses"* The spirit, the water and the blood, and all three agree’.
I do know the verse you quoted Matt 28:18
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth".
He is speaking of two, there is no mention of 3.
The path of Jesus was miraculous and he did some wonderful miracles, this we can not deny.
But Jesus himself said;
Mathew 15:8-9
“ But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandment of men.” John 5:37
‘And the father who sent me has testified about me himself. You have never heard his voice or seen him face to face’. John 8:28
‘I do nothing of myself’. John 14:28
‘My Father is greater than I’. Mark 12:29
‘The Lord God is one Lord’.
In summary;
Its in my hands to know the truth of our religion. So I will continue to research for the truth
Which is a warning for those who distort the Word! The Bible also records in ( I Timothy 4:1) that this is another sign of the last days as well as ( 2Timothy 4:3-4) (2 Timothy3:16)" God Breathed" Read also ( 2 Peter1:19-21)(2 Peter2:1). Pray the prayer according to ( Ephesians 1:17-19), allow God through the Holy spirit to teach you, and give you the revelation, wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of His word.
NIV:
8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
King James:
8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
---------------------
First, I think the error arose from he (KJV)when it should be He (God).
Consequently the verse should literally read thus:
8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
----------------------
My modern English Translations will then read:
8 How can you say you are wise because you have the law of God ? Indeed God’s (written) law to you is in vain (useless) and the efforts of the scribes (in writing it) were also in vain.
8 How can you say you are wise because you have the law of God ? Indeed God’s law is mocked by you and the efforts of the scribes were therefore in vain.
Or
8 Why do you boast you are wise simply because you have God’s Law? In fact God’s Law mean nothing to you and the scribe’s efforts (in writing it ) was a waste
Or
8 Why do you boast you are wise simply because you have God’s Law? Honestly, God’s Law has achieved nothing with you and the efforts of the scribe in writing it was a waste
----------------------
As demonstrated in the whole Chapter 8 of Jeremiah, God was rebuking his people (the Jews) for not following the laws he laid down for them. In order not to repeat the whole argument as outlined by the chapter, God says their refusing to follow the laws He caused to be written down for them means that the writer’s (scribe’s) efforts are then in Vain.
God did not say that what the scribes wrote is wrong but that Jews do not follow the writings and thus the writings are in vain; of no use ; not yielding fruit, -in other words they scorn the writing and because of this, God is going to punish them.
PLEASE, PLEASE, what is happening to the Bible? Has SATAN infiltrated and corrupted the Bible beyond rescue? How can these men of ?God supposedly filled with the Holy Ghost be unable to translate simple clear passages like Jer 8:8 where the whole context is repeating the same message over and over again. I am totally FURIOUS with these mistranslations.
All these new translations are causing more HARM than good.
Before these Bible TRANSLATORS produce another version, I strongly suggest they put out a world call to all Christians to submit errors / misrepresentations they found in NIV / other Bible versions(via their Pastors) so that you don't create a bigger BLUNDER next time.
Jeremiah 8:8
"How can you say we are wise because we have the the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing Lies"
The Condradiction's In the Bible start from;
In 2 Samuels 8:4 it reads
"David captured 1700 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders, he crippled all the chariots except enough for 100 chariots".
Now read
1 Chronicles 18:4
"David captured 1000 chariots, 7000 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders. He crippled all the chariots horses except for 100 chariots".
Other examples are;
2 Samuels 8:9-10
1 Chronicles 18:9-10
2 Kings 8:26
2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Samuels 6:23
2 Samuels 21:8
Genisis 6:3
Genisis 9:29
John 5:37
John 14:9
John 5:31
John 8:14
You see Jo All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by man. They are definitely not quotes from the bible For example;
The Trinity, Divine Son ship Of Jesus Christ, Original sin and atonement.
Jesus as he says in
John 8:28 "I do nothing of myself"
John 14:28 "My father is greater than I"
Mark 12:29 "The Lord is ONE lord"
Mark 13:32 "No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen not even the angles in heaven or the SON himself, ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS"
The word Trinity is not Biblical nor is it used in any Bibles or Bible dictionaries. Trinity was never specifically mentioned by Jesus. The formation of the word "Trinity"was presented by Athenasius, an Egyptian Deacon from Alexandria and was accepted by the council of Nicea more than three centuries after Jesus had departed from this earth.
Other such "Man made" decisions of the council contributed to the declaration of the Roman Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and the establishment of December 25th as Jesus birthday. This was done in order to have a celebration that occurred on the same day as the birthday of the pagan gods such as Nimrod (Babylon god) Krishna, (Hindus god), Mithra (Greek god) and Dionysius (Bacchus of greece)who is named the only begotten son of Jupiter and was born of the virgin mother Demeter, on the 25th of December. As you can see the celebration of the birth of Jesus is clearly an idea of pagan decent. As clear as we can read in black and white the Bible forbids even the decoration of christmas trees;
Jeremiah 10:3-4 "Their ways are fertile and foolish. They cut down a tree and a craftsman carves an idol". "They decorate it with gold and silver and than fasten it securely with hammer and nails so it won't fall over".
The conclusions to my recent research on religion is that we so called true Christians are not even close to abiding by Gods laws, far from it. We are such Hippocrates.
I hope this helps Jo, May God give you blessings
Jeremiah 8:8’
Jeremiah says"How can you say we are wise because we have the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing lies."
As you say the word 'Trinity' is used to describe 'The Father, the Son and the holy Spirit' It is also described in
1 John 5:7 as
"So we have these three witnesses"* The spirit, the water and the blood, and all three agree’.
I do know the verse you quoted
Matt 28:18
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth".
He is speaking of two, there is no mention of 3.
The path of Jesus was miraculous and he did some wonderful miracles, this we can not deny.
But Jesus himself said;
Mathew 15:8-9
“ But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandment of men.”
John 5:37
‘And the father who sent me has testified about me himself. You have never heard his voice or seen him face to face’.
John 8:28
‘I do nothing of myself’.
John 14:28
‘My Father is greater than I’.
Mark 12:29
‘The Lord God is one Lord’.
In summary;
Its in my hands to know the truth of our religion. So I will continue to research for the truth