Discuss Job 19 Page 2

Thank you Mark for that valuable truth.

The story should be humbling to everyone

that reads it.

God bless you

To rationalize all things that pertain to us can be misleading and, at times, even disastrous. Cause and effect in the natural realm of our existence doesn't always apply in the ways of God in our lives. Job's 'friends' may have been unsettled by the chance that Job hadn't done anything warranting his current state. There was no wrong done by Job to bring this about. God in His providence had allowed things events to occur. If that were the case then Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar were in jeopardy of being grossly mistaken in their responses to their associate. This proved to be the case in the end.

Without the Bible and prior to Jesus' earthly ministry, Job faced his dilemmas the best anyone could expect. Even in the midst of facing continued criticism from supposed allies. Thank you Job for endurance and patience and thank you God for allowing this book to be contained in your holy Word for our instruction and enlightenment!

Amen Richard.

Job 19:25-27 (KJV) For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

Nina,

"And, behold, (1) the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and (2) the earth did quake, and (3) the rocks rent; And (3) the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God." Mat 27:51-54

This was preceded by 3 hours of darkness from noon til 3 PM.

We are not told any more information about the saints who arose only to die again as did Lazarus who who Jesus raised from the dead. Jesus was The Firstfruits of those who have died In Christ.

"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept." 1Co 15:20

The Old Testament saints, believed God, just as Job of old trusted God.

"For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me." Job 19:25-27

We will be raised INCORRUPTIBLE!

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Co 15:51-52

These that arose were not changed; not raised incorruptible.

Stephen, I think you're responding to another thread with Adam, so apologies for this intrusion, but thought to clarify something here.

If you're considering the God/Satan encounter in Job chapter 2, you need to bring in Job 1:6-12 into it as well. You've quoted 2:3 (part): "and still he (Job) holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me (God) against him, to destroy him without cause." When you read this, you also have to take into account chapter 1.

I don't believe that God was moved by Satan against Job in chapter 2 simply because Satan had already "moved" (or, prompted, persisted, challenged) God to test the integrity of Job in chapter 1. Therefore, what we have in 2:3 is the statement that God was 'moved by Satan against Job', as this was done earlier on.

So can we conclude that it was God Who instigated & carried out those acts against Job & his family/animals? The normal reading of both those encounters with Satan, show that God had declared the righteousness of Job to Satan. Now, we're not told what Satan was up to earlier as he went "to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it." Maybe, he was seeking out 'targets' & had a room full of trophies as a result, but couldn't find fault in Job (just my thoughts only). But God had presented righteous Job before Satan as one different from the others. Satan took up the challenge & it was 'game on' - again.

God could have refused Satan permission to touch Job in the way he did. Though God was confident that his servant Job would put His Creator & Redeemer ( Job 19:25-27) first in everything, even to the destruction of his loved ones & his own body.

27. Mighty One - "Then you will know that I, the Lord, am your Savior, your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob." Is. 60:16

28. One Who Sets Free - "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36

29. Our Hope - "Christ Jesus our hope." 1 Tim. 1:1

30. Peace - "For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility," Eph. 2:14

31. Prophet - "And Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household." Mark 6:4

32. Redeemer - "And as for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, and at the last He will take His stand on the earth." Job 19:25

33. Risen Lord - "that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures." 1 Cor. 15:3-4

34. Rock - "For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ." 1 Cor. 10:4

35. Sacrifice for Our Sins - "This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." 1 John 4:10

36. Savior - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:11

37. Son of Man - "For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10

38. Son of the Most High - "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David." Luke 1:32

39. Supreme Creator Over All - "By Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Col. 1:16-17

10 more on the way :)

To live is Christ, to die is gain!

One last thing Genesis 3:15 gives a hint of the coming savior
Genesis 14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. one day messiah shall crush the head of the serpent.

Many claim Job is older than Genesis
Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

He alone is God

Yes I do believe in one God that loves the human race people of all colors backgrounds no matter where you come from no matter where you are at in this stage of your life but you must want to do better you must turn from sin and repent to God for a new way of living your life

All I know is that jesus came to this world so that we would have life and have it more abundantly better than our for fathers who were Slaves who were lynched in the streets on American soil just because the color of our skin and hatred toward African americans by the white people of America but we have to forgive ourselves and for those who still kill innocent black boys and black girls women

I don't know a lot about this verse but I do know if you have faith in The LORD he will be with you always. I HAVE been a witness of so many times that God has brought me thru in many situations in my finances in my physical body when I almost died. even in my mental stste of mine when I thought about death.

reading Job has truly opened my eyes to my own self. people you love and trust turn away, and it hurts, but i learned not to dwell on that, I know God is always with me and i thank him daily, for his mercy and grace. Praise God always even in your pain, he's there

v. 25 - This is a prophecy of the end times. Job was the1st book of the Bible written, therefore it is the oldest existing book in the world. This one verse is just amazing. "My redeemer ......."; That's Jesus.

The world can be unkind to the believer or the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. God is with us in our trials. We must stand by Faith in God.Believe in our heavenly home and the Redeemer of our Souls. The pain is temporary if you believe through Salvation. Job 19

God is faithful to his promises and his words he will never leave us or forsake us thats tte promise . He is always in our side. He is the only God who can love us even we couldn't love ourself. We are saved by Grace and not by law. Through the blood of Jesus we are cleanse and sins are forgiven.He simply wants us to obey his words. Obedience is more important than sacrifice I will praise you Lord

Help everyone dear Jesus that is going through a trial, thank you Lord Jesus for what you have brought us through in the past. Thank you for your deliverance with our current affliction. In Jesus in your name.

i have no idea what this means. it is a little confusing to but i kind of think it is about God trying to ask Job why is he letting the Lord down, putting Jesus in the dark paths alone by himself but know i now why job is doing that either he is on someone else is side, he is trying to please someone, or he is trying to hurt Jesus feelings after all Jesus is the lord and savor and he died for you.

Its a wonderful chapter that applies to our life

I have hope now that God who redeemed job will deliver me from temptations

Job didn't remember affliction is appointed to the righteous, this that happened to job was to prove to us god is the sovereign god.the devil could afflict,but his affliction couldn't kill job because god was on job. When god is with you the gates of hell cannot prevail against you.

I know my redeemer liveth because He lives within me. I Praise God for redemption : For I am redeemed : Bought Back with the precious blood of Jesus Christ from sin , sickness and disease : Death , hell and the grave. Praise God forever more. He shall stand forever more !!!!

God has appointed time to bless us and heal us. We need only to meditate his words day and night in order for our needs and dreams will be given and everything we do will prosper. God is a promising God and faithful to his words. Thanks to Jesus for his precious blood that shed for us. Amen and i love you Jesus and will trust forever.

My husband and I understand this, It has happened to us. After 34 years of striving and giving, having come from poor families with NO help, my husband reached the top, only to be toppled by envious men, Who can stand against Envy, our Family left us our children left us

"Unto the coming of the Lord we are instructed to look to Elijah and Job. " There is a good reason for this.

I have always love thus great man Job!!!!! He lets us know that 's it okay to questioned God!!!

Job 19, verses 25 26 says, 'BUT AS FOR ME, I KNOW THAT MY REDEEMER LIVES, AND THAT HE WILL STAND UPON THE EARTH AT THE LAST DAY. AND AFTER MY BODY HAS DECAYED, YET IN MY BODY I WILL SEE GOD. ' Job was not talking in a vacuum, he was speaking about Jesus as God coming to save his people from their sins. It has to be, because every Bible student knows that Jesus is our Redeemer and God. Let me put it this way. Many people think that God and Jesus are two separate beings. But they are not. This is a lie Satan has fed our minds to make us miss out on the Salvation God as Jesus offers us. John 1, verse 2 makes it plain, ...AND THE WORD WAS GOD. Jesus is always the way God speaks to us, and always will be. The Father is the way God directs his affairs, and the Holy Spirit is the way God inspires us to believe in what he is doing. So Job is talking about God as Jesus when he calls God his Redeemer. Jesus loves you!

Everyone is reedemed from death unto life and made new and given a new heart, for the lord our GOD LIVETH neither will he turn away to those that call on HIS name but will hear their cries and redeem them. Our Lord reings forever he shall judge all nations with righteousness. God bless you.

Let us also consider the many new testament statements about now having been redeemed, and now having been translated into the kingdom of Jesus. Also Heb.11 40 states that God has now provided something better for us than the old testament Saints had,although they were encouraged by God 's promises. 1 Pet.1 9 12 explains that this better aspect of salvation was not yet available to them, but is now provided for us to apply, by the new testament experience of being in Christ. While Job thought it was God that took his blessings from him, we can now read that God only permitted Satan to proceed for a show down. Job 1 6 12 I personally, do not feel that Christians need to, or should allow Satan to rob us of God 's provisions through Christ.

I can say with Job : I know my redeemer liveth. To be redeemed is to be bought back. I have been bought back from sin, sickness, and disease through Jesus Christ. I am so Thankful to my God that He loved me enough to send His son for me and the whole world. Life is at our fingertips if we will only take hold of it. Praise God Almighty !!!!!