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  • Joseph on John 12 - 12 years ago
    what does this mean (He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.)
  • Normand O. Leclerc Jr. on John 12:44 - 12 years ago
    When I read John 12:44 I think of Revelation 19:10..and I'am not sure That we should be worshipping Jesus. Is it that I am having trouble understanding what the Godhead is?
  • Damilare on John 12:25 - 12 years ago
    I love it with all my soul because its a great powerful mystery on how we can easily get into eternal home
  • CYNTHIA on John 12:36 - 12 years ago
    Sometimes the Lord will show us a light especially if we are going through a grievous time and in order to heal he sends this bright and shining light to let one know they must believe in him and to follow him
  • Swapan Kundu on John 12 - 12 years ago
    It is the chapter where people were looking both the life giver and life receiver to be killed so that human glory will be lifted up. Praise the Lord that our Lord came to this world to give His life for others so that by death He will bring many to glory who believes.
  • John on John 12 - 12 years ago
    I have been a Christian for a long time but this is the first time I've read this chapter all the way through. These words have so much power, I realize I've been missing out. I've never read the Bible from beginning to end, I think I need to get on that ASAP.
  • Anonymous on John 12 - 13 years ago
    I encourage anyone to start with the New Testament and read through the whole Bible, one chapter a day. My whole family is doing this and we are keeping a journal of our favorite verses from each chapter and sharing them weekly. Since there are around 1500 chapters in the Bible, it will take us a little over four years. My favorite verse in this chapter is verse 46.
  • Joseph on Psalms 1 - 13 years ago
    phalms 1 verse 5 says the ungodly shall not stand in judgement john 12:48 says the word I have spoken will judge him on the last day little confused it says many times thruout the bible that all men shall be judge
  • Joe on John 12 - 13 years ago
    John 12:38 is refering to Isaiah 53:1
    1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?"
    Notice when reading further into the chapter on 53:2-6.
    2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."
    3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
    4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted."
    5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
    6 "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
    Notice how Isaiah refers to himself as a different person than the Christ, even in the number of those who hid their faces. Isaiah refers to the Christ as "He" and himself as one of the "We".
  • Saleh on John 12:38 - 13 years ago
    I am a Muslim and I sgtrong believe that the Prophet Esaiah was actually Prophet Esa [Arabic] / Jesus.
  • Marlene on John 12 - 13 years ago
    Verse 32 I believe is talking about how Jesus would die, as stated in verse 33.
  • Maxim on John 12:48 - 13 years ago
    What Jesus said and people refused to accept his person and his words would be judging them hereafter. What he said would be judging those who rejected him in the last day. It means everything Jesus said was righteous and alighted this world, but some people refused to accept him, that's why they would be judged. Jesus is the truth and what he speaks was made clean of any lie.
  • Alf on John 12:21 - 13 years ago
    St Andrews in Ann Arbor MI has a John 12 21 quote downstairs and you can see it there something like "come and have breakfast with me". So Jesus shares your fare.
  • Gracie on John 12:32 - 13 years ago
    If we, as Christians would not be ashamed to live the word of God every day and worship and praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, He would be lifted up. For as the scripture also says, "He (Jesus) inhabit the praises of His people." When He inhabits, He comes in with the blessing of God, where others may see, Jews and Gentiles alike worshiping in the love and Spirit of God and drawing near to Him to glorify our Lord, He will draw others to come.
  • Ian on John 12 - 13 years ago
    This year I have made my best effort to study the word. My faith is growing stronger and my eyes opened to how I and so many others gave meaningless service to being saved. I also realize why Satan has used atheists to get bible education out of schools. A bad or nonexistent knowledge of scripture leaves us open to the cunning lies of Satan. The state of the world today shows me this truth. I urge anyone reading this to fully research the true Sabbath. Sunday is not the true Sabbath. Jesus and the disciples all kept the true seventh day. Many scriptures attest to this. There is not one scripture where the Sabbath was changed by God or Jesus. And the bible is the God inspired word not to be changed by man. But in the 8th century that’s exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did. The proof is in their own writings and the history of the church. Satan has been here since the Garden of Eden, working his plan to deceive us since then. As Jesus said many Christians will be deceived and he will not know them even though they call him Lord, heal and prophecy in his name. Again I urge you check out the truth. God bless.
  • Master on John 12 - 13 years ago
    It is an unimaginable thing that Jesus had to weep.It is just so sad that pple don't realise how hard it was for the son of,we surely need salvation lest we be judged.
  • Jaida on John 12:48 - 13 years ago
    How does the word judge you? Does that mean that peoples concience will be convicted because they'll know it's true? Or something? please help me. May the love of GOD reach you all.
  • Takiri on 1 John 5 - 14 years ago
    A Theological Investigations, reputed Catholic scholar Karl Rahner states that “in
    St. John’s First Epistle ὁ θεός [“the God”] so often certainly means the Father that it must be understood of the Father throughout the Epistle.” Also, the French Protestant Bible du Centenaire concedes in a footnote that the Greek allows for a non-Trinitarian translation. Incidentally, it not be forgotten that, probably in the fourth century C.E., an overzealous Trinitarian Latin scribe added to 1  John 5:7 the words “the Father, the Word and the holy spirit; and these three are one.” This addition, known technically as the “Johannine Comma,” was protected by the Vatican until
    1927, in spite of the fact that even some Catholic scholars had raised doubts about its authenticity
    as early as the sixth century. This dishonest insertion shows the lengths to which Trinitarians will
    go in their efforts to prove their doctrine

    God’s Name and the Trinity
    Something that makes God very real to Jehovah’s Witnesses is their knowledge and regular use of his personal name, Jehovah. ( Psalm 83:18) When a member of one of Christendom’s churches reads in his Bible the anonymous expression “the name of the Lord,” it means little or nothing to him. Similarly, when he prays “hallowed be thy name,” the chances are that he does not know what name he is praying about. Jehovah’s Witnesses know their God, they know his name and, like the psalmist and Jesus himself, they love their heavenly Father’s name.— Psalm 5:11, 12; John 12:28; 17:6, 26.
    Since God’s personal name appears literally thousands of times in the original-language Bible, why has it been expunged from many of Christendom’s Bible translations, and why is it never used by the hundreds of millions of Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant “Christians”? Could the dogma of the Trinity have anything to do with this most extraordinary religious fact?
    Interestingly, the Catholic Jerusalem Bible renders Deuteronomy 6:4: “Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one Yahweh.” And a footnote, after giving another possible translation, states: “But it is more likely that we have here a declaration of monotheistic faith.” This, then, is the one God of whom Jesus, speaking as a Jew, stated: “We worship what we know.” ( John 4:22) And this Catholic Bible admits that the name of that one God is Yahweh, or Jehovah. Now, according to Trinitarian theology, Yahweh, or Jehovah, is the name of the God of the Hebrew patriarchs and the Jews, the God whom Jesus came to reveal as “the Father,” or “God the Father.” It follows that for Trinitarians the divine name Yahweh, or Jehovah, designates only one of the supposed “Three Persons” of the “Godhead.” The “Second Person” has a name (Jesus), but the “Third Person” is the anonymous “Holy Spirit.” Christendom’s churches cannot logically use a name for God that does not designate the entire “Godhead.” So their members are condemned to worship a mysterious triune God that has no name.Yet, instinctively, many Catholics feel the need to worship someone they can know and name. This, no doubt, explains why many of them worship Jesus or even Mary. This same instinct to worship a God one can name is even reflected in religious architecture. In scores of Catholic chapels, churches and cathedrals in France and other countries, above the high altar or elsewhere there is a gilded, rayed nimbus representing divine glory. In the center is a triangle, symbolizing the Trinity. Paradoxically, inside the triangle is the Tetragrammaton, the four Hebrew consonants of God’s name, Jehovah. But how many Catholics today realize that it is God’s name?
    “One Lord, Jesus Christ”
    After having stated: “There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him,” the apostle Paul added: “And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.” (1 Corinthians 8:6) Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe to that further statement. Jehovah, the Father, is the Source; Jesus, God’s “only-begotten son,” the “firstborn of all creation,” is the means by which the Father accomplishes His will.— John 1:2, 3, 14; Colossians 1:15, 16.
  • Geri on John 12:32 - 14 years ago
    I was mistaken in my thinking. I understood the verse to mean the following:
    If I be lifted up = praising God, lifting our voices in praise and worship to God Almighty.
    In that = He (God) would draw all men unto him.
  • Chui Ckak Ming on John 12:8 - 14 years ago
    Jesus was murmuring monologue to father God(ye), not anyone around. Jesus was sad to what Juda so mean and insidous to say that moral accusation. Juda the poor in ethic, the God places on earth so ubiquitously while deserted Jesus among that with pain and crystal heart.
  • Kevin chambers on John 12 - 14 years ago
    Jesus wept.
  • Joe on Mark 5 - 14 years ago
    Notice how in Mark 5:7 the legion recognized Jesus as the son of the most high, note demon's where angles from heaven who rebelled against God along with Satan, so that's proof that Jesus descended from heaven and is the son of the most high god. also John 12:49 one of my favorites
  • Susan Dalton on John 12 - 14 years ago
    "And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified... Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again." ( John 12:23-28)
  • Susan Dalton on John 3:16 - 14 years ago
    What does Jesus say about faith? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." ( John 3:16-18) What does Jesus say about them who believe not? "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." ( John 10:26-29) Jesus said, "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. ( John 12:46-48) "Without faith it is impossible to please [God]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is..." ( Hebrews 11:6) Jesus came. People saw. People heard. Some believed. Their hearing and seeing Jesus led to belief; their belief on what they heard, saw, and believed became their faith. "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." ( Romans 10:17)
  • Anonymous on Hebrews 10 - 14 years ago
    The doctrines/teachings Faith Alone = Salvation is a half truth doctrine. Because, even one verses in the bible you cannot read that through Faith our Soul can enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many verses in the bible that to enter into the kingdom of heaven is in your own works/individual works to follow the words of Jesus Christ. Old test. prophesy is in verses: Exeq. 14:14, 14:20, & Exeq. 18:27. New test. verses; James 1:21& 22, Acts 2:40, Fil. 2:12. In Mat. 7:21, faith alone cannot ride this verse because to enter into the kingdom of heaven is the one's who doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Faith and Good Works = Salvation to enter into heaven. Our heavenly Father will not judge to our faith to him. But our heavenly Father will judge to our works whether good or bad. Supporting verses: 2 Cor. 5:10, John 12:48 & Eccl. 12:14
  • StephendeRafael on John 12 - 14 years ago
    Jesus in his life on earth grappled continuously with unbelievers. He was sent to do one thing and that was to give Israel the words of truth from God. Few believed so he raised Lazuras from the dead. Some believed, then a voice from Heaven Glorifying. He states that those who love their life in this world shall lose it. And rightly has Issaia said that seeing we won't see even the miracles, for we harden our heart and will not believe that which manifested before us.
  • Pastor salim on John 12:24 - 15 years ago
    We need to take on ourLord's example.Unless the old nature is allowed to fade away or die,let go all old habits-I mean,the carnal thoughts and wicked desires in Egypt or our past lives,we cannot experience a breakthrough.To live for God you need to deny yourself the pleasures of this world.God bless you as you die in order that Christ lives in you.Pastor Salim.God bless you.
  • Pearl on Revelation 8 - 15 years ago
    well according to Revelation chapter 8 verse 1, it is speaking of that God Almighty himself is silence, he have shout down on many; especially to the grown folks who are over 35; up years of age. for he said that we the grown folk knows better; know right from wrong; when we do not listen to him;apply;comply to him; his needs that is exactly what we as people of his creation is going to faced up with, with plenty of destruction, bad conditions; plus situations. And so, if we as people, especially the older folks who knows better; have the knowledge that God is real; plus he talks and respect him for the person; the God that he is; do the right thing then none of this would or could have happen to us; in the world. But because of our hard head; defiant ways that is why things is going like this, but trust me there are more where this comes from.However, let me tell you something the LORD MEDAD YAHWEH do not abandon his people, his children unless his children; we abandon him first, for he is ah God of love; he doesn't want this for us; for we brought this crisis; dilemma on, why? Because we have sin; done wrong to him;plus towards him;so, what is for him to do? turn his back on us, yust like we did to him; trust me; when he, God Almighty does that, the means he is sick; plus tired of our foolishness; plus stupidity towards.So when he, God MEDAD YAHWEH turns his face; back the other way, that means he had enough; allows the enemy to have his; their way with us, you; the world for being so aunrey; unattentive to him; his needs. So for right now he,GOD ALMIGHTY is very silent, we especially us old folks are practically on our own. Now for the younger children; generation he is attending to their needs, for they don't know as much as us, older ones. For us older ones; generations was to be the ones putting the younger ones in check; plus in order. So you see why all of this craziness is going on, for the seal of protection of us; others is; have been broken, remember when the seal have been broken it means that we are no longer sealed or protected like we was before, now remember the seal have; has many sides to it, for I'm sure it is not only talking about one way. I know this because the holy spirit, MEDAD YAHWEH, GOD ALMIGHTY have told me this, for no one could have given to me this insight but only him, for after all he knows all; plus sees all. shalom for this have been pearl Abiygayil Yisrael B.K.A. disciple Mary for the holy spirit, my dad; God have told me of who I am this day; if it wasn't for Medad Yahweh I wouldn't have known this again. And based on the holy scriptures, the torah; tanakh it can be verified on John chapter 11:1-57, 19:25-27, Luke 10:38-42; plus, John 12:1-3.And so, there you have it.
  • Anonymous on 2 Peter 2 - 15 years ago
    I cannot accept that I am more better than you because only the Lord Jesus Christ know the heart of a person. So, we the believers must have a competition to each other to become pleasing to his sight, in John 3:22. a person can enter into the kingdom of heaven must have a pure heart. Faith alone and works of a Pastor/Minister/Reverence/Priest cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven if you accept verse Mat. 7:21. Our God will judge to our works whether good or bad. Our God will not judge to our faith to Him. But God judge us is based in His words. Supporting verses : 2 Cor. 5:10; John 12:48 & Ecclesias. 12:14.
  • Orelusi Ayodele on John 12:24 - 15 years ago
    God's word has various meanings, but to it means except we surrender all and let God have His way, we cannot do anything on our own.


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