Hi Chris: I didn't understand your first question so I can't answer it and I disagree that being sinless now make me revert back to a body like in the Garden of Eden but I don't want to go into that in this discussion.
I am sinless. As He instructs me to be because He says in His word for us to be perfect as His Father in heaven is perfect (Math. 5:48) and we are to be holy as He is holy. ( Leviticus 11: 44-45, Leviticus 19:2, Leviticus 20:7, 1 Peter 1: 15-16). People think these verses are just suggestions, or they don't count because they are in the OT. God's word from Genesis 1:1 to Rev. 12:22 all matter and tells us exactly how God wants us to live holy, righteous lives. I, of course, cannot be sinless as Jesus was because I was born into original sin and He wasn't. But when I was washed clean and made new by His divine blood, He rid me of the desire to sin. The devil tries to tempt me, but because I am without the nature to sin; the adamic nature, I have no desire to sin. I am also filled with the Holy Ghost, so I have all the weapons I need to resist him and as long as I keep these weapons, of prayer, reading and the study of His word, and fasting, new and at my side, I will be able to resist the temptation. It's when a christians gets lax or distracted or lazy that they can eventually fall back into sin. But if they want to make heaven they must do their first fruits (asking forgiveness for sin and asking that the desires for son be removed) again. These verses of perfection and holiness are exactly what God expects of us and He wouldn't tell us to be that way if He didn't make a way for us to be like this. I wasn't sinless until I gave my heart, soul and "old man" to Jesus. When I was saved, I not only prayed for my soul to be washed clean through His divine, forgiving blood, I also prayed and told the Lord that I didn't want to sin anymore and asked if He would take the desire to sin from me (the human nature I inherited from Adam.)
In Acts 15:29 it says that the Gentiles would observe "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled" concerning food. But Gentiles were not told to observe the other ordinances concerning food. I hope that answered your question. God bless.
Acts chapter 10 . Peter is told not to call anything unclean if God has cleansed it . This applies to food literally and also to the gentiles metaphorically . If God makes something or someone clean then they are clean , wether it's good or a person .
In the books of the New Testament is there any passages by Jesus that negates the Old Testament laws about what foods are clean or unclean that we can or can't eat???
Good read Reg. There can be some translations that appear confusing, given the same (Hebrew) word being used in different instances. As in Leviticus 11:18 & Deuteronomy 14:16, where 'swan' is the given translation (amongst the 'fowls'). Then in Leviticus 11:30, 'mole' is given using the same Hebrew word for this animal (amongst the 'creeping things').
Your theory about the protection of the swan, for royalty sake, is a possibility, yet it remains how could the same Hebrew word be used for two different types of animals. I'm sure the translators would have spent much time struggling with what to do/how to translate in such circumstances. Maybe if there was uncertainty at the original manuscript level, then it remains open as to how one chooses to translate the same word for an animal which flies and another that can only creep.
Even a look at Chabad dot org, applying these same Scriptures there, I find different animals used for the three verses (magpie, bat, mole). That being the case & the Jew who is strictly subject to the ruling & finding no problem, I think we should not stress over this one and leave it as an uncertainty. Thanks for your research.
Regarding the hebrew word H8580 Tinshemeth or Tanshamath in Leviticus ch 11v 18 as rendered as being "swan" and then rendered again in verse 30 as "mole". This is actually not confusing but simply an incorrect translation. The reason it was incorrectly translated is unsure but the many scholars that have agreed it to be incorrect, confusing or some that even use words like probable, perhaps or maybe the unclean bird. This will leave enough doubt for one to except that when in doubt one should leave it out. That in itself is confusion. One should study and show oneself approved to rightly divide the word.
The Most High Almighty is not a God of confusion. On the other hand man in his carnal state can confuse simple logic and commonsense. There has been reference that Charles Darwin is involved in the evolution theory of lizards evoluting into birds in the early 1860s.
So why was tanshamath injected in verse 18 as being swan then verse 30 as mole when there are two separate categories, flying fowl and creeping things. also, why didnt it say in verse 18 ... swan and after its kind which would then include the duck and geese as they are from the anatidae family. Interesting too is that "owl" is used in verse 17 running into verse 18...In my opinion the barn-owl fits the description of tanshamath in verse 18 as a greater possibility.
Barn owl is the most likely and the Ibis bird is the second other likely bird but definitively not the swan.
Why would swan be chosen? One theory is that the royal family made laws to protect the swan for their own banquet comsumption. I found this on the Royal Family site.
The Crown has held the right to claim ownership of all unmarked mute swans swimming in open waters throughout the country from as far back as the twelfth century. Historically, valuable rights of ownership were subsequently granted by the monarch to many people and organisations as swans were a prized food, served at banquets and feasts.
Hi Robert. That's a good question that I had to check against my Hebrew Lexicon. Apparently, in Leviticus 11:13,20, the mention of 'fowl' is normally understood as a bird of various descriptions. But in Hebrew, the word is 'oph', meaning 'flying creatures', & this would take in not only birds that we identify as 'fowl', but also creatures with wings that have four or more legs (e.g. locusts, hornet & bee species, etc.).
And then in verses 21-23, "Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth...", we get a further explanation of these multiple legged flying creatures that could be eaten: the grasshopper & beetle; and what were unclean: everything else).
Clean and Unclean Food Questions - In Reply - 3 years ago
Leviticus 11 are the food laws. In Acts 10 the Lord deals with Peter for refusing to eat food he believed unclean. 3 times.
Food cooked responsibly and received with prayer and thanksgiving is clean. The power of "clean" is in Jesus Name.
Even John the Baptist ate roasted locusts. Follow the scriptures and don't be in bondage to laws. The law is the School Master until Grace comes; who is Jesus.
Leviticus 11:1-47 - And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, (Read More...)
Deuteronomy 14:1-29 - Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. (Read More...)
Mark 7:19 - Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Titus 1:15 - Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Acts 10:14 - But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Mark 7:1-37 - Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. (Read More...)
Romans 14:2 - For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Leviticus 11:44 - For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Jesus spoke his Father's word.
The Father spoke through him.
The Father is the one that doeth the works. Who is the Father? The Holy Spirit ( John 4:24, Leviticus 11:44)
OnlytruthintheworldKJV - In Reply on Luke 1 - 4 years ago
Respectfully,
Jesus was never "fully God & fully man" (that term is not found in scripture)
The man Christ Jesus is called the Christ, because he was annointed with the holy Spirit of his Father. This is the definition of the word; Christ - the annointed one.
When was he annointed? :
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
This is when the fulness of the Godhead (God the Father who is the Holy Spirit - John 4:24/ Leviticus 11:44) began to dwell in the body of His Son ( Colossians 2:9).
Not at His birth.
Yes, Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit (God the Father)-( Matthew 1:18) in the womb of a virgin.
But the Holy Spirit (God) did not begin to dwell in His Son until His baptism by John in the Jordan.. and only then did Jesus begin His 3.5 year ministry of miracles signs and wonders.
This is not my opinion, this is what the scripture declares.
How does the advice on what to eat and what to avoid fit in with the New Testament ? Some say we are FREE to eat whatever we please as we are under Grace and not under the Law.
So am I allowed to consume pork or prawns for example?
Still confused when reading the below verses...and still learning !
Deuteronomy 6:4, "The LORD our God is one LORD". This is God's declaration & also believed by Jews, Christians & Muslims. There is no multiplicity of gods that sit on God's Throne. Yet, when God says, "Let us make man in our image...", we find a revelation about this Nature of God. God has accomplished all His creative work by His spoken Word ( Psalm 33:6, Genesis chapter 1 "And God said..") & in the Power of His Spirit. ( Psalm 104:30, Job 33:4). And this Word was made flesh, Jesus, for the sake of mankind's redemption ( John 1:1-14) & was also involved in creation in the beginning ( Colossians 1:13-19).
Those are a few Scriptures to show that God, Who is One, has sent out His Word & His Spirit to accomplish His Plans. So when we read, "God said, Let US make man in our Own Image", this plurality which you've observed, is God in His Fullness involved in man's creation as also in creating the heavens & earth. Man, (interpreted as Adam), was first created. And "them" would be his wife, Eve, & all his progeny after them that would "have dominion over the earth & its creatures".
Man was "created in God's Image". God is Spirit & no man has seen God at any time - he cannot be described in physically terms. But what we do see is not the physical Image of God, but the part of God He desired that man would also have & benefit from. So looking at God's Character, we see that He is first Holy ( Leviticus 11:44), His Spirit communes with man's spirit, He has the power of Love, of Choice, of Fellowship, of Righteousness (pure & holy living), of expressing Emotions, etc. That describes God & His attributes that Adam also enjoyed, but after Adam chose to disobey God & sin entered into him, sin subsequently marred his physical, mental & spiritual aspects. And this marring, or corruption, fell upon all mankind, i.e. we've inherited this sin nature ( Romans 3:23), & our own lives show us daily how far short we have fallen from that ideal & how far our sins have separated us from God.
Yahusha= j-sus said in ps. (40:6) concerning this matter and in (ish.53:5-8) did away with animal sacrifices hosea.6ch. tells us why they were taking the almighty yah for granted... no one likes to be taken for granted... and in act's 10ch. he told peter don't call man common or unclean... and if you keep reading for contextual understanding because he fill them with his setapart spirit= ruach it was not food yahuah was concerned with but man his creation for he told us what to eat in lev. 11ch and says "i change not." we have changed! did yahusha= j-sus every eat anything unclean? no! if he did he would have been a sinner and he was without sin (ish.65:1-7; 66:17) is a future judgment
AzarYahu Ben Eliyahu on Leviticus 11 - 5 years ago
The covenant 10 word marriage called the 10 commandments are not done away with nor the righteous law's= torah . the messiah did away with the levitical priesthood ritual work's of the law and animal sacrifices (ps.40:6) (heb.10:26-31)(1 jn.3:4) (mt.5:17-20) (rev.22:14-15) (rev.22:8) tells us this. bl-ssed are they that #do his commandments ( rev 22:14)? yes indeed our leaders have caused us to err! ex.31:13-18 the seventh day of worship is an everlasting covenant mark and command as well as the seven feasts in lev.23 the messiah yahusha kept all and said if you love me keep my commandments our creator and saviour yahuah tzveaot says i change not? repent for the reign of yahuah is at hand!
I would like complete verification on God's word. I have grown up in a Christian environment. I have heard some religions hold the cow is sacred. Strangely enough have never heard any not eat pork. Holy to eat beef, chicken, turkey, and fish? Unholy to eat pork, crab, shrimp, lobster, and other shell fish as it does not have gone let Laviticus?
I am sinless. As He instructs me to be because He says in His word for us to be perfect as His Father in heaven is perfect (Math. 5:48) and we are to be holy as He is holy. ( Leviticus 11: 44-45, Leviticus 19:2, Leviticus 20:7, 1 Peter 1: 15-16). People think these verses are just suggestions, or they don't count because they are in the OT. God's word from Genesis 1:1 to Rev. 12:22 all matter and tells us exactly how God wants us to live holy, righteous lives. I, of course, cannot be sinless as Jesus was because I was born into original sin and He wasn't. But when I was washed clean and made new by His divine blood, He rid me of the desire to sin. The devil tries to tempt me, but because I am without the nature to sin; the adamic nature, I have no desire to sin. I am also filled with the Holy Ghost, so I have all the weapons I need to resist him and as long as I keep these weapons, of prayer, reading and the study of His word, and fasting, new and at my side, I will be able to resist the temptation. It's when a christians gets lax or distracted or lazy that they can eventually fall back into sin. But if they want to make heaven they must do their first fruits (asking forgiveness for sin and asking that the desires for son be removed) again. These verses of perfection and holiness are exactly what God expects of us and He wouldn't tell us to be that way if He didn't make a way for us to be like this. I wasn't sinless until I gave my heart, soul and "old man" to Jesus. When I was saved, I not only prayed for my soul to be washed clean through His divine, forgiving blood, I also prayed and told the Lord that I didn't want to sin anymore and asked if He would take the desire to sin from me (the human nature I inherited from Adam.)
please pray for me as i go though a tough stage in life. Thank you for your prayers.
with love everlasting,
Janet Hillsburo
- Psalms 147:19-20
- Amos 3:1-2
- Deuteronomy 28:1
- Leviticus 11:1-2
Your theory about the protection of the swan, for royalty sake, is a possibility, yet it remains how could the same Hebrew word be used for two different types of animals. I'm sure the translators would have spent much time struggling with what to do/how to translate in such circumstances. Maybe if there was uncertainty at the original manuscript level, then it remains open as to how one chooses to translate the same word for an animal which flies and another that can only creep.
Even a look at Chabad dot org, applying these same Scriptures there, I find different animals used for the three verses (magpie, bat, mole). That being the case & the Jew who is strictly subject to the ruling & finding no problem, I think we should not stress over this one and leave it as an uncertainty. Thanks for your research.
The Most High Almighty is not a God of confusion. On the other hand man in his carnal state can confuse simple logic and commonsense. There has been reference that Charles Darwin is involved in the evolution theory of lizards evoluting into birds in the early 1860s.
So why was tanshamath injected in verse 18 as being swan then verse 30 as mole when there are two separate categories, flying fowl and creeping things. also, why didnt it say in verse 18 ... swan and after its kind which would then include the duck and geese as they are from the anatidae family. Interesting too is that "owl" is used in verse 17 running into verse 18...In my opinion the barn-owl fits the description of tanshamath in verse 18 as a greater possibility.
Barn owl is the most likely and the Ibis bird is the second other likely bird but definitively not the swan.
Why would swan be chosen? One theory is that the royal family made laws to protect the swan for their own banquet comsumption. I found this on the Royal Family site.
The Crown has held the right to claim ownership of all unmarked mute swans swimming in open waters throughout the country from as far back as the twelfth century. Historically, valuable rights of ownership were subsequently granted by the monarch to many people and organisations as swans were a prized food, served at banquets and feasts.
Thanks for the response
And then in verses 21-23, "Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth...", we get a further explanation of these multiple legged flying creatures that could be eaten: the grasshopper & beetle; and what were unclean: everything else).
What is an example of a fowl that creeps on all fours ?
Food cooked responsibly and received with prayer and thanksgiving is clean. The power of "clean" is in Jesus Name.
Even John the Baptist ate roasted locusts. Follow the scriptures and don't be in bondage to laws. The law is the School Master until Grace comes; who is Jesus.
Leviticus 11:1-47 - And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, (Read More...)
Deuteronomy 14:1-29 - Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. (Read More...)
Mark 7:19 - Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Titus 1:15 - Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Acts 10:14 - But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Mark 7:1-37 - Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. (Read More...)
Romans 14:2 - For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Leviticus 11:44 - For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Mishael
Hello brenda, to answer your question about a coney.
A Coney is a (Rock Hyrax) that looks like a rounded 'Meerkat' (without the black eyes)
they look so cute and adorable. however, under the mosiac law these
animals were considered unclean and shouldn't be eaten. Deuteronomy 14:7
Thanks:
Psalm 83:18
John 3:16,17
Deuteronomy 18:18
King James Version
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Jesus spoke his Father's word.
The Father spoke through him.
The Father is the one that doeth the works. Who is the Father? The Holy Spirit ( John 4:24, Leviticus 11:44)
Blessed be the name of the Lord!
Jesus was never "fully God & fully man" (that term is not found in scripture)
The man Christ Jesus is called the Christ, because he was annointed with the holy Spirit of his Father. This is the definition of the word; Christ - the annointed one.
When was he annointed? :
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
This is when the fulness of the Godhead (God the Father who is the Holy Spirit - John 4:24/ Leviticus 11:44) began to dwell in the body of His Son ( Colossians 2:9).
Not at His birth.
Yes, Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit (God the Father)-( Matthew 1:18) in the womb of a virgin.
But the Holy Spirit (God) did not begin to dwell in His Son until His baptism by John in the Jordan.. and only then did Jesus begin His 3.5 year ministry of miracles signs and wonders.
This is not my opinion, this is what the scripture declares.
How does the advice on what to eat and what to avoid fit in with the New Testament ? Some say we are FREE to eat whatever we please as we are under Grace and not under the Law.
So am I allowed to consume pork or prawns for example?
Still confused when reading the below verses...and still learning !
MATTHEW 15: 1-20 ( Mark 7:1-23)
ACTS 10 : 1-28
ROMANS 14 (whole chapter)
1 CORINTHIANS 8:8
who is better than god,nobody .yes nobody is better than god........
Those are a few Scriptures to show that God, Who is One, has sent out His Word & His Spirit to accomplish His Plans. So when we read, "God said, Let US make man in our Own Image", this plurality which you've observed, is God in His Fullness involved in man's creation as also in creating the heavens & earth. Man, (interpreted as Adam), was first created. And "them" would be his wife, Eve, & all his progeny after them that would "have dominion over the earth & its creatures".
Man was "created in God's Image". God is Spirit & no man has seen God at any time - he cannot be described in physically terms. But what we do see is not the physical Image of God, but the part of God He desired that man would also have & benefit from. So looking at God's Character, we see that He is first Holy ( Leviticus 11:44), His Spirit communes with man's spirit, He has the power of Love, of Choice, of Fellowship, of Righteousness (pure & holy living), of expressing Emotions, etc. That describes God & His attributes that Adam also enjoyed, but after Adam chose to disobey God & sin entered into him, sin subsequently marred his physical, mental & spiritual aspects. And this marring, or corruption, fell upon all mankind, i.e. we've inherited this sin nature ( Romans 3:23), & our own lives show us daily how far short we have fallen from that ideal & how far our sins have separated us from God.