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  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} repent for remission - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 1 OR: Baptism Of Repentance for the remission of sins?

    Precious friend, Of course the 'Confusion lies in interpreting/Changing Isolated' verses, and Ignoring the Whole Of Scripture, and, Also in Not "Rightly Dividing God's Word Of Truth, 'Approved' Unto Him! 2 Timothy 2:15

    You have an opinion: "Imo, Acts 2:38 would have been much better understood, and served God and the world better if it were interpreted as:

    'Then Peter said unto them, Repent for the remission of sins, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.'"

    Now, this 'interpretation/CHANGE opinion' presents The 'Same problem As Changing' God's Plain Word in Mark 16:16 :

    "He that believeth AND is baptized shall be saved"

    There is NO NEED to "interpret/CHANGE" God's Plain and Clear Word. When, 'Left in its Context,' IT "Stands As IT IS WRITTEN!" This is Also CONFIRMED in Luke 7:29-30!

    Full study in Part II will further 'Confirm' This, According To The Word Of God, Rightly Divided!

    Please Be 'Richly' Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In JESUS CHRIST, And, In HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!!

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} repent for remission - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Part II OR: Baptism Of Repentance For The Remission Of sins?:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve 'Were Sent' to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25 John 18:35 Exodus 19:6 ) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16 )

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15 ) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul 'Was Not Sent' to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4 1 Corinthians 12:13 )

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God Saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    More spiritual understanding of 'Prophecy vs MYSTERY':

    Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 1 Corinthians 12 - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 12:13 God's ONE Baptism for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE/Mystery:

    Precious friends, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the sinner "believes in CHRIST, that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friends, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Acts 4 - 3 years ago
    Precious Yunda, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friend, Yunda, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery (C.R. Stam) - continued:

    8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such ( Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    8) The Mystery Concerns individuals ( Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17)

    9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth ( Isaiah 2:3-4; Isaiah 11:1-9; etc.)

    RDf

    9) The Mystery Concerns "all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3)

    10) Prophecy concerns Christ's Coming to the earth ( Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4)

    RDf

    10) The Mystery Explains Christ's absence from the earth ( Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3)

    11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is not contemplated ( Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17)

    RDf

    11) Salvation "By GRACE Through faith" Alone lies at The Very Heart Of The Mystery! ( Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9)

    12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve ( Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)

    RDf

    12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly to Paul ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:8-9; Colossians 1:24-27)

    13) The prophetic program revealed through many of God's servants Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21)

    RDf

    13) The Mystery revealed through one man: Paul! ( Galatians 1:1; Galatians 1:11-12; Galatians 2:2; Galatians 2:7; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2-3)

    14) Old Testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made through them ( Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12)

    RDf

    14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might understand The Mystery revealed through him ( Ephesians 1:15-23; Ephesians 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10; Colossians 2:1-3)

    {borrowed from "Things That Differ" by C.R. Stam}
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

    Prophecy/Law: 15) The Two "Main" (of 12) baptismS = A) water, For remission of sins! ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25)

    B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8, 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18, 38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":

    Mystery/GRACE!: 15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13) 'ONE' = not two...

    Prophecy/Law: 16) Forgive others First, Then God Will Forgive! ( Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 16) Forgive others Because CHRIST Has Already Forgiven us! ( Ephesians 4:32)

    Prophecy/Law: 17) Taught how/what to pray! ( Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!" ( Philippians 4:6) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

    17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought," But "The Spirit Intercedeth For us, According To The Will Of God!..." ( Romans 8:26)

    Prophecy/Law {earthly!}: 18) "watchmen," {as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth!}, looking for The "wicked one, the deceiving man of Sin" And "signs" ( Matthew 24)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE {Heavenly!}: 18) ambassadors {As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven!} Looking, Watching, & Waiting For The Holy One, The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven!} ( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11; 2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13)

    Please Be RichlyEncouraged!

    Heavenly GRACE/Mystery fellowship, today? ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious Dan:

    " Mark 16:14-17 So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen"

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • IMKane - In Reply on 1 Samuel 1 - 3 years ago
    If you want the truth in Scripture, Paul, don't waste your time looking up the Greek and Hebrew words for the meaning of Bible verses and the definition of English words. The KJV translators were superior scholars and were fluent in Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. God promised that He would preserve His written word, and He used those 47 KJV translators to do just that. When you read or study Scripture, use a search engine and pull up Webster's 1828 dictionary to look up the definition of a word used in the KJV. Consulting Greek and Hebrew words only leads to conflict and confusion, and God is not the author of confusion. People who consult the Greek or Hebrew for the meaning of verses or the definitions of words are not Greek or Hebrew scholars and do not possess the knowledge to accurately translate the Greek and Hebrew words into English. The KJV translators already did that job more accurately than any of the wannabe translators ever could. Wisdom is justified of all her children Luke 7:35. Peace.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 2:7 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, IMKane: "Paul seems to be saying there were TWO gospels." Yes, Biblically Correct! Note the following 'Dispensational' Differences Between God's TWO Gospels:

    Part I Gospel of the kingdom =

    Gospel of the circumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

    Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 ( Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

    The Prophecy Program for the Jews ( Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26; Daniel 2:44; James 1:1)

    Preaching of The Cross as historical ( Acts 2:23,36; Acts 3:14-15; Acts 5:30)

    Gospel to be believed = Christ's Name ( Matthew 16:16; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13)

    Salvation by faith and water baptism ( Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

    Justification without works is dead ( James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

    Repentance emphasized along with faith ( Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

    Reconciliation not mentioned.

    Covers Matthew - Acts 8, then Tribulation ( Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12; Matthew 24:14)

    Under The Law ( Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

    Good works will follow salvation ( Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5; 1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7,10)

    Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Gospel Of GRACE

    to be continued...
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Meaningful Questions: "does that mean I don't have to be baptized?...I don't want to do something just because everyone else does." This is A Very Good Point!

    Two things concerning "water baptized to be {or not to be} saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST: Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! So, Meaningful Questions, we don't do it "Because Everyone Else is" {disobeying God, In Confusion?} Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!

    More Relevant water baptism Discussion is here: Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious brother Chris. So glad you brought up: "'Law Administration' is difficult to comprehend when water baptism was not part of the Law to Israel (except concerning the priesthood as a ritual cleansing)." In regards to this, you may find the following "view of Israel's priesthood" Very Interesting - thanks for your careful/prayerful consideration:

    {Borrowed from my 12 baptisms "study"}: ONE of Israel's various washings! Greek: Baptismos = ( Hebrews 9:10):

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism ( Exodus 29:4) ( Leviticus 8:6) ( Numbers 8:7). This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" ( Leviticus 21:21) }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25).

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone ( Luke 7:29-30?)?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" ( Exodus 19:6!)?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? ( Matthew 4:24) ( Acts 5:16) compare: ( Leviticus 21:21)

    More questions - to be continued
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Clayton, Precious friend. Two things concerning "baptized to be saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 7 - 3 years ago
    Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:

    Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?

    However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:

    "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?

    Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    Gerald, my Precious friend, I'll take your question "2: How should we be baptized?" Better

    is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."

    IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:

    Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    All healings by God are given by His grace and no merit the only thing that's required is what does an individual really believe, now there are conditions I.E. children or adults due to physical problems that don't have the capacity to believe because believing starts in our minds. People who came to Jesus Christ Got Healed because they believed, and there iis a record where He didn't heal many, look at Math. 13: 54-58, then look at Luke 7: 1-10. Thats why the greatest healing I know comes from believing Gods word and having no doubt. Now look at the promise Jn14:1-17. P.S. Everytime I've been healed I had no doubt the times I didn't I did. Please let me know if this helps.
  • MELVIN on Luke 7 - 3 years ago
    I'm a sinner PLEASE pray for me...that GOD heals my soul and cleanses me from all unrightestness. And in FAITH I thank JESUS my LORD AND SAVIOR.
  • Greeting in the name of Jesus - In Reply on Exodus 23 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 13:12

    Greet one another with an holy kiss.

    1 Thessalonians 5:26

    Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

    Luke 7:45

    Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

    Romans 16:16

    Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

    1 Corinthians 16:20

    All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.

    Genesis 27:26

    And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son.

    1 Peter 5:14

    Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Proverbs 27:6 - Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

    2 Peter 1:7

    And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

    Hebrews 13:1

    Let brotherly love continue.

    1 Thessalonians 4:9

    But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

    Romans 12:10

    Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

    1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all your things be done with charity. 1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

    Colossians 3:5 - Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

    Comment by Mishael: Amongst Church members, I would hope that we don't judge each other's greetings.

    In our present culture we seem to be hyper aware of any kind of sexual harassment.

    Inside of our Church setting we should be able to greet each other with a handshake and squeeze on the arm without a problem.

    Rather than be shocked by standoffness, try to discern the other persons body language. We are naturally hyper now due to Covid-19 and Variant fears. It is, what it is.
  • Jesus and John the Baptist - In Reply on Luke 1 - 4 years ago
    I understand. I've always loved the stories and prophesies about how Jesus came to earth: John's birth and then Jesus. Then the one when John was imprisioned; before his death.

    Luke 7:16-39

    Especially what John said from the depressing darkness of prison, awaiting death:

    And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, "Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?" Luke 7:19

    [Showing that from the least to the greatest, sometimes we have doubts in loneliness and darkness]

    24: And when the messengers of John were departed, he (Jesus) began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

    25: But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

    26: But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

    27: This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

    28: For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

    >Thank you for enduring my posts that are about fond scripture passages that I find comforting.

    Mishael
  • Carleton on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Discussion is looking real good the past hours!

    :)
  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    S Spencer,

    "We're not his sheep BECAUSE we follow him, we follow him BECAUSE we are his sheep!"

    I like that! There is so much symbolism in John Chapter 10. There are eight terms used that we should all be familiar with that represent or symbolize something: sheepfold, The Porter (Doorkeeper), the door, the sheep, the shepherd, the hireling, thieves, and lastly robbers. They all represent something.

    I agree with what you shared about the sheep being all put together in one place at night. There could have been hundreds if not thousands of sheep enclosed together in one place, and multiple shepherds each owning a portion of these sheep.

    It fascinates me that each shepherd, one at a time, would come to the door and call for his sheep, and out of the many that were in there, only his would come out. None of the other sheep would come out.

    In Palestine, the shepherds would call for their sheep. That's it! They didn't have to herd them from behind with horses and dogs to get them to where they needed to be. Instead of the shepherd herding the sheep from behind, he was ahead of the sheep and they followed him just by hearing his voice.

    Our proper position in Christ is always behind Him. We don't walk beside Him, and we don't walk ahead of Him. Our proper position will always be behind Him. That's why He gave us the command to follow Him.

    Just like the sheep in Palestine who heard the voice of their shepherd and followed him, we also as sheep hear the voice of our shepherd, and we follow Him, behind Him!
  • Richard in Christ on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Hebrews 10:22-24 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for He is faithful that promised;)

    And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

    Hebrews 13:15-16 By Him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His name.

    But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

    Hebrews 13:20-21 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

    Make you perfect in every good work to do His Will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Amen Jesse,

    john 10 seems to sum it up, Church/people,

    John 10:16 (KJV) And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

    The plan was revealed in the old testament but hidden to their eyes and ears.

    There's a lot said when the Lord says in

    John 10:4. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

    We're not his sheep BECAUSE we follow him, we follow him BECAUSE we are his sheep! ""WE hear his voice "" slight difference in grammar, big difference in meaning.

    At night all the shepherds in the area would bring their sheep to be kept in a protected area , where they are mixed with all the other sheep, " they didn't brand the sheep " the next day the shepherd would go in and call their sheep, they hear his voice, they follow him.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    This one? :)

    But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. First Timothy 3:15
  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    S Spencer,

    Yes, I do see how Matthew 21:43 ties into this. We have to remember that the Jews were cut off from the tree, and we (Gentiles) were grafted in. Could the nation Jesus is referring to be the church? I think the church is part of it. However, the word used in the Greek text for nation is the word ETHNEI which would be translated "to a people."

    Some English translations including the King James say to a nation, while others say to a people. I might be a little bit off on this, but I think the bible only talks about two types of people, Jews, and Gentiles.

    Anyway, those were very strong words Jesus used in Matthew 21:43. Can you imagine what the Jews must have been thinking? He says it is going to be taken away from you, and the vineyard is going to be given to the Gentiles. The Jews considered the Gentiles unclean. Gentiles were even called dogs. And now here's Jesus telling them that it will be taken from them and given to the Gentiles. I'm sure that didn't sit too well with them!

    Paul says in Romans Chapter 11 that we are grafted into the vineyard. But that's so the Jews would be jealous because we have their Messiah.

    Paul also says in Romans Chapter 11 that when Christ comes at His second coming, those Jews who are alive on the earth, he says all of Israel will be saved.

    They will then own Him as their Messiah. But until then, it's been taken away.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Amen Jesse,

    I recently expounded on those verses in that fashion!!

    I think we see it also played out in Mathew 21 parable especially in verse 43.

    Matthew 21:43 (KJV) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. I take That nation to be the church.

    John 15 is centered in so many verses in the Bible. Thank you.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    S Spencer,

    I am not sure if I can share additional insight with you on the vine and branches. The things you said were pretty much spot on. Your knowledge is pretty solid. All glory to God for that.

    There are a few more things in Chapter 15 that I find interesting, things you may already know but I can still share.

    Jesus said I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. It's literally I am the genuine vine, and my Father is the earth worker.

    That is fascinating to me because having some (very little) knowledge about horticulture, I know that a tree or vine can have many branches attached to it, some living, and some dead.

    All these branches are attached to the same vine, and yet some never produce fruit. They are dead branches.

    In the O.T., the vine was always used as an example of Israel, especially Isaiah 5:1-7, also known as the song of the vineyard, how that God planted a vineyard and it was the nation Israel.

    But they grew wild grapes, and thorns grew and God allowed the vineyard to be overrun by wild animals, which symbolized His judgement against Israel.

    So now Jesus is telling His disciples that I am the genuine vine, not the symbolic one of the O.T. He says I am the genuine vine and my Father is the farmer, the earth worker.

    There are two phrases Jesus uses that sometimes cause confusion. First of all there's the phrase "in me." He says every branch "in me" that does not bear fruit. That's not a saved person. That's the nation Israel being in God.

    The other phrase Jesus uses is "Abide in me." The ones abiding in the vine produce fruit. Then there are the branches that Jesus says are in me. But they don't produce fruit, neither can they.

    The branches that are in Christ but are not bearing fruit, they are only physically connected. Internally they are cut off from the life source. The branches that are abiding in Him are the ones that are connected to the internal life source of the vine who is Jesus Christ!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Thanks Jesse,

    That is also my favorite scripture to take out to the ministry, Send me more insight on that scripture if you will. Thanks,

    God bless you.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    S Spencer,

    Thank you! You touched on my favorite chapter in the entire Bible, John Chapter 15. Years ago in my Koine Greek class, we studied that chapter and the word abide, MENO in Greek.

    MENO is used in several places in scripture and it denotes permanency. We permanently are abiding in Him, and He in us.

    Yes, Jesus says without me, you cannot do one thing. I think the best way we can express our submission to Him, is to get up in the morning, ready to face our day, and say "Lord, I can't do it. I can't go through this day without you."

    I agree that this love, Agape love is our confirmation that He is in us. He gives us the ability to love, and not Human love which is a different word, PHILEO.

    Our brothers and sisters in Christ come first, even before ourselves. We can only have that type of love because the creator of the entire universe lives in us, and He is love!
  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Skip,

    I was reading through your post again because you shared some beautiful things. Sometimes as I'm reading through things, certain thoughts come to mind.

    I've been thinking about Jesus saying my sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

    Something that really stands out for me is "I know them." I might say that I know Christ, but what's most important is that He knows me. He knows me! He knows you! He knows all that belong to him.

    By Him saying "I know them," wouldn't that pretty much guarantee our salvation no matter what?

    In Matthew 7:21-23, it seems as though many who professed to know Christ, even claiming to do many things in His name, and Jesus says depart from me, I NEVER knew you.

    Now if He says "I know them," present condition, referring to His sheep, saved believers who belong to Him, how would He ever be able to one day tell us "Depart from me, I never knew you?" If He knows us now, He would never be able to later on say I never knew you!

    Thanks so much for the things you shared. Definitely thought provoking. The Lord is good!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 7 - 4 years ago
    Amen Jesse,

    What a beautiful declaration you gave on Agape "A fruit, something we get by being connected to the vine, It's virtue

    John 15:4-5. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

    I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for WITHOUT ME YE CAN DO NOTHING. .

    This love is our confirmation, " we can know we're in him!!

    1 John 3:18-19. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

    And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

    John has a lot to say about this, look what's contuary to this.

    1 John 3:10-15. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

    Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

    Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

    We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

    Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

    It's Amazing how we stay away from this topic because it manifest who we are and whether we are on the right side of salvation!!

    It says the brothern, I don't think in these verses it's from believers to non believers, I think it's the spirit that bonds the unity.

    John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

    By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. This is the law he said he would put IN man's heart.


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