Discuss Mark 10 Page 2

  • A. - 3 years ago
    Mark 10:8-9 luv

    Genesis 2:22-25 kjv.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Revelation 4 - 3 years ago
    Mark 10:40, Matthew 20:23, Matthew 22:44,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Johnnie,

    Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 19:1-12, Ephesians 4:5,

    I think the main point is the outward living life, dead to the flesh ( selfishness, bad actions, etc. ) resurrection in the last days, is the goal. Mark 10:38, Luke 12:50, Colossians 2:12-14, 1Peter 3:18-22,

    * Romans 6:3,4, please read all of Romans 6, chapter, Colossians 3:1-17,

    John 12:23-36, Romans 8:13, Luke 14:27-33,

    Hopefully these are helpful

    If you have trouble understanding pray for wisdom: James 1:5
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Footnote on rewards.

    Irregardless of whether men or women have any different roles either now or in eternity I thought a few words on eternal rewards needed to be said for exhortation. Hebrews 11:16 makes it clear that a heavenly country was sought; hence we are as aliens and pilgrims on the earth ( 1 Peter 2:11-12). Paul exhorts us to press on to win the prize and to put worldly concerns behind us ( Phil. 3:14). We must be careful to endure to the end so as not to forfeit our reward ( Rev. 3:11).

    It is clear from these and other exhortations that our reward comes not in this life but in heaven. This; of course is against those preachers emphasizing worldly riches as indication of "blessings from God." Luke 4:6 should be a healthy reminder that the enemy also can offer things in this life and in the end of course pull the rug out from under us.

    There are verses talking about people praising our "good works" ( Matt. 5:16). Such was probably the case early on in Christ's ministry also; while He hid from many His truths in parables and didn't yet fully reveal Himself to men so as to accellerate beyond the set time for the persecution and death to occur. There were many who would see Him as "good teacher" would recieve the statement in Mark 10:18 about God alone being good. We will be hated in this life; clearly and our reward being great for the hurtful statements in the Beatitudes clearly is indicative of eternity in heaven after this life. It is for "His Name's sake" ( Jn. 15:21) that we suffer these things. That name; which is the only figure in religion I know of that is cursed by all pagans. The Name which claims to be THE truth ( Jn. 14:6). Satan is going to resist God and His people as long as he is still loose in this world and to the extent God allows Him to test us. May we hold on tenaciously to His promises through the power of the Spirit. Let us continue until the end to be "salt and light!" ( Matt. 5:13-14).

    Agape.
  • T Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mark 10:40, context Mark 10:13-45, Matthew 20:23, context Matthew 20:1-29,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Baptism: Acts 2:38-47, Matthew 28:18-20, these are the same baptism, Ephesians 4:5, context Ephesians 4:1-13, please read all the scriptures I've included even the scriptures surrounding the ones you're asking about. They're very important on what Jesus our Christ =(the Messiah) is saying & the Scripture is saying about Him.

    Origin of Baptism: Matthew 3, Mark 1, Luke 3, John 1, John 3 - John 4:1,2, ; Matthew 21:25, Mark 11:30, Luke 7, Luke 20:4, Acts 13:24,25,26,

    Acts 1,

    Symbolism of baptism: Matthew 20:22-28, Matthew 11:10,11,12,13, Mark 10, note these scriptures in Mark 10:21,29,30,31,32,33,34,38,39,42,43,44,45, Mark 16:16, Luke 12:49-59, in context Luke 12, John 3:3,5, Romans 6, Colossians 2:12, 1Peter 3:21,

    HOLY Ghost HOLY Spirit Baptism: Acts 8, Acts 10, Acts 11, Acts 19:2-7,

    In one Spirit 1Corinthians 12:13,

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 7 - 3 years ago
    Scripture about an Angels carrying ._. Not "spirit" Luke 16:22, 'your question spirit seeing loved ones on earth', more importantly GOD ALMIGHTY sees us Psalms 139, Psalms 27:10, & Jesus intercedes for us Romans 8,

    It's important to understand the Biblical laws of marriage were given to Moses for Israel & "the Children of GOD" John 1:12, also Romans 8, relevant.

    These laws are for GOD fearing, believers, a guideline for what's best.

    Mark 10:2-12, Matthew 19:3-12, Matthew 5:31-37, notice it was to test, Jesus. Deuteronomy 24:1-4

    1Corinthians 7,

    Malachi 2:10-15, John 3:16, Matthew 25:31-46, Jude 1,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Inami.

    Sorry for such a long delay in responding I went right off to bed after my last reply.

    A disciple of Christ is one who has truly believed on and trusted Christ and have been born of God's spirit. This is not professing to be born again and trying to live a righteous life or by serving or by going to church or by ministering. It's confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart that initiates God's spirit to take residence in you. You are baptized by the Holyspirit, meaning you are Identified with Christ. Christ righteous is imputed over on to you. You are then given a new heart with the ability to love and wants to obey him and serve him at your best. John 14:23-26.

    You will also love the brethren. John 13:34-35. 1 John 4:21.

    You can't redeem yourself! You are redeemed when you truly believe on the work Jesus did on the cross where he paid our ransom as mentioned.

    John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Christianity isn't anything you "DO"

    A Christian is what you "BECOME" by the working of the Holyspirit. And you become that by truly trusting in Christ not the works of our own hands. Christ becomes the Lord over your life and the head of the body of Christians you have been baptized into.

    For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

    Philippians 2:13.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi InaMi.

    We don't go to heaven by being good, nor in just believing in the existence of God. One would have to recognize his sinful and lost state and have faith in Gods plan of redemption.

    God is Holy and there is nothing man can do to reconcile himself to God.

    Romans 3:10-11 says "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

    There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    The wages of sin is death, we're all sinners and sin have to be paid for, so I don't like to say Christ done away with sin on the cross but rather "Christ paid the penalty for our sin on the cross". He was the sacrificial lamb, He died in our place. Jesus was sinless and when the Lord took upon our sin God the father didn't spare him.

    There is no way to the father but through the son. John 14:6.

    You asked "Is it right to put a good man into hell because he doesn't believe in God?

    No one is good but God as shown here in Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

    God Holiness is above our comprehension.

    Isaiah 55:6-9.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Reflections on heaven part 2: Service toward God.

    If we wish to separate those "would be" believers who desire to go to heaven but have no compulsion to serve God from those who already are His bondservants and just would be continuing what they started to practice here on earth we can evaluate their love for God and obedience to obey His commandments ( John 14:15). There are many shallow; foolhardy and at times downright blasphemous concepts of "love" today which permeate much of Christendom; particularly in the "music industry". The concept of obedience because of love seems a foreign concept today; especially in our nation. How many social issues could be deflected if that were the case of more children in their family upbringing for their parents today? Surely; there is more to His love than us being bondservants; as He calls us "friends." ( John 15:15 in the very next verse!) To serve to the length of our own hurt is surely seen in Christ's ministry; not the least of which of course was the crucifixion and all the sufferings beforehand. We often neglect the extent of the rest of His public ministry; where He wasn't even able to mourn the death of John the Baptist; despite making a deliberate attempt at retreat to be alone in a desert place with His chosen few. ( Matthew 14:13). While the Son of Man came to serve and not be served ( Mark 10:45) while on earth; He is certainly worthy to serve and exalt for all eternity for what He did for us. For Him to lift Himself up is not sinful like with the rest of His Creation.

    True; there are "pleasures for evermore at His right hand" ( Psalm 16:11). This has to be balanced with the rest of our reverent service toward Him. The shallow; sentimental emotional "love" is at best a tepid version of the Spirit; at worst just a hyped up emotional mindset which is of the world; or comes from occult persuasion. Our emotions; mind; and soul must be incorporated into worship of God ( Mark 12:30).
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Wes gave a wise answer on Christmas. Exodus 23:8, Deuteronomy 16:19, Ecclesiastes 7:7, may The HOLY Spirit teach us. John 14:26

    I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....

    We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.

    When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.

    Deuteronomy 15:7, Job 5:16, Proverbs 19:4, Psalms 69:33, Proverbs 14:21, 2Corinthians 9:9, Psalms 68:10, Galatians 2:10, Romans 15:26, Psalms 40:17, Proverbs 22:2, Psalms 41:1, Luke 14:13, Psalms 74:21, Proverbs 29:7, Proverbs 28:27, Psalms 112:9, Psalms 82:3, Daniel 4:27, Proverbs 21:13, Proverbs 31:10,20, context Proverbs 31, Proverbs 19:17, Proverbs 19:7, Luke 4:18, Matthew 11:5, Mark 10:21,

    Proverbs 19:6, Esther 9:22, James 1:27,

    This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,

    Psalms 31:24, Ecclesiastes 3:1,
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Clara,

    Deuteronomy 24:1-5, Matthew 5:27-32, Matthew 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Romans 7:1-4, Malachi 2:11-17,

    Deuteronomy 7:3-16, Nehemiah 13:23-29, 1Corinthians 7,

    1Timothy 4:1-10, 1Timothy 5:14, Hebrews 13:4,

    James 1:5
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 7 - 3 years ago
    I believe it's possibly scriptures mixed together that are actually separate. However the main point you're getting from it seems to be in Paul's letters to the Church in Corinthian: 1Corinthians 7, note 1Corinthians 7:10-17,

    Mark 10:1-31, Luke 16:13-31, John 4:1-43, Ephesians 5:33, Romans 7:2, John 8:1-11

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesus speaking in context : Mark 10:13-31, notice he started with the little children that were being pushed aside._.. Notice too he says many not all. Luke 18:17, Mark 10:15,

    Giannis says Israel, that seems very contradictory to the WORD: Romans 11, whole chapter. Notice, Luke 13:22-35, note Luke 13:27, iniquity, Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 48:12, Matthew 24:48-51,

    Matthew 20:1-16, again arrogance & expecting more reward than another? Again if you go back a little in context Jesus is telling them don't forbid the children to come to Him. Matthew 19:14, continued the same event follows. Matthew 19:14-30, so Matthew 20, is repeating the teaching of 1st, & last; meekness, in another perspective same teaching. Matthew 10:22,24,25,42, Matthew 10:5-42, Mark 9:35, Mark 10:44, Matthew 20:27, Matthew 18:3,4,5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Moses controlled the sea by order of GOD. Exodus 14:15-31,

    Other times, Joshua 3, 2Kings 2:8, 2Kings 2:14, Mark 4,

    Exodus 17:6, note Numbers 20:7-12, GOD even gave them the power & authority to just speak to the water to come forth, matter of fact; it was an Order, & because it wasn't followed it was counted against them.

    Mark 9:23, Luke 18:27, Mark 10:27, Matthew 19:26,

    James 4:1-3,

    Hopefully these scriptures are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    1Corinthians 6:1-3, Continue on 1Corinthians 6:4,5, 2Timothy 2:12, Revelation 5, notice Revelation 5:10,

    Mark 10:42-45, 1Timothy 3:1-13, 1Timothy 5:17-22, Hebrews 13:7,17,24, 1Corinthians 4,

    Exodus 18:13-26, John 7:24, Deuteronomy 1:16,18, 1Corinthians 11:31, Isaiah 3:4,12, Isaiah 14:2, Isaiah 32:1, Deuteronomy 15:5-18,

    James 1:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    2Thessalonians 3:10-12, 1Timothy 5:8, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 19:9, Leviticus 20:10, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20, John 8:3-11,
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Delmarie Crandal,

    I believe you are correctly stating, here are scriptures to back that up: Matthew 18, Matthew 18:2-4, Mark 9:36,37, Mark 10:13-16, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 9:46-48, Luke 18:17,

    Hopefully these help
  • D W L - In Reply on John 9 - 3 years ago
    Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand (is not mine) to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.

    John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as WE are.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Proverbs 19:17,

    Exodus 22:21-27, Exodus 23:1-12, Deuteronomy 24:12-15, Psalms 14:6, Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 41:1, Psalms 82:3,4, Psalms 112:9, Proverbs 14:31, Proverbs 21:13, Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 14:13,14, Luke 18:22, 2Corinthians 9:9,

    Proverbs 13:7,

    Hopefully helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mark 10:28-31, Matthew 20:1-16, Matthew 19:16-30, Luke 13:23-30
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 8 - 3 years ago
    Mark 8:22-26, this seems to be the same account witnessed by John: John 9, whole chapter, note: Exodus 4:11, & John 9:1,3,32,33,39,

    Matthew 9:27-31, notice: Mark 10:47-52, this guys "faith, immediately" Luke 18:35-43, notice, the situation you referred to: John 9:35-39,

    Psalms 146:8, Isaiah 29:18, Isaiah 35:5,6, Isaiah 42:1-21, here in: Matthew 11:5, Luke 7:22, Jesus pointed out the fulfilled prophecy in those ancient scriptures. Matthew 15:31,

    Mark 6:1-6,

    The mind is a powerful thing, Mark 9:23, Mark 11:23,24, Mark 16:17,

    Luke 8:49-50, even death Jesus said "fear not: believe only" ._.

    Was it the man's doubt?

    Was it an example to not give up, keep trying, keep seeking the miraculous, healings? To encourage us to press on, keep believing, keep trying. (?) or all the above._.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 22 - 3 years ago
    The medical term is called " hematohidrosis " extreme levels of stress, can cause it. " There are multiple blood veins netted around the sweat glands, in net formation, that constrict under the pressure of great stress" "fear and intense mental contemplation are the most frequent causes" recorded under National Library of Medicine, .gov

    It can & did occur. Luke 22:44, "sweat as it were great drops of blood"

    Let's look into Jesus' stress._._ he had known people were plotting to kill him, Matthew 17:22-23, Matthew 21:38, Mark 9:31, Luke 20:14, Luke 22:2, Jesus knew it was the religious hypocrites that were plotting instead of teaching the sheep (his beloved sheep) John 8:37, John 7:1,19,20 even calling him opposite of Christ, John 10:19,20,

    Mark 10:34, here: Jesus even knew how & explained it. Isaiah 52, Psalms 22,

    He knew he would be on public display, clothing taken from him, they would gamble for them: Psalms 22:18,19

    Jesus knew he was being betrayed & even said go quickly, John 13:27,

    Jesus knew the followers would scatter, anyone who loves those who depend on them in anyway never wishes to leave them, especially unprepared, afraid, in danger, alone, being pursued, John 17, John 10:11,12, Luke 12:4, Matthew 24:9,

    Those are only some of the details. Extreme stress none of us have faced to that level. Hebrews 4:15,

    Hopefully these are helpful to your discussion/ debate / controversy. 2Timothy 3:16,
  • Cindy - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Canada, we aren't God's robots, He gave us the freedom to choose our own path. We can choose to fall into temptation or to resist as it says in James 4:7 "Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, he didn't argue with the devil, he quoted scripture as in Matthew 4:10 "...for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." I advise you to search the internet for a verse in the Bible that tells us not to do whatever you are being tempted to do and quote it with the temptation arises. Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. Start having daily devotions. Always confess your sins. If you are a born-again believer, He is always with you and willing to rescue you. Just ask. Mark 10:51 "And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee?..."

    God bless and keep you!
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Old Testament law: Deuteronomy 16:16, Exodus 34:23,24, Deuteronomy 31:11, Exodus 23:17, the dates of calendars have changed even the Hebrew / Jewish calendars. Moses through GOD established the beginning of the year to be the Passover, no calendar today honors that. Exodus 12:2, Exodus 12, Numbers 28:16,

    Jesus honored these things, along with His parents (on earth) Luke 2:22,23, Luke 2:41-49, John 4:45, John 5:1, John 10:22,23, even those who opposed Jesus expected Jesus to honor the appointed days : John 11:54-57, John 12, Even facing His own brutal death: Matthew 20:17,18 , Mark 10:32,33,34 do you think HE knew He was the Lamb,: Luke 2:38, Luke 18:31, that was going to be slain for Passover? That's why HE told them, as HE obediently set his face to go? Luke 9:51,

    Matthew 21

    Micah 6:6-8,

    John 4:21-24, 2Corinthians 6:2, 2Colossains 2:16,17, Hebrews 10:1-19, Matthew 18:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

    Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

    Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

    Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

    Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

    see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

    GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

    It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

    Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

    In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

    1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • Dav47 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    It all depends on the individual; if he/she knows without coercion on their own the reason and purpose that CHRIST came in the flesh; was the only begotten SON of GOD born of a virgin through miraculous conception by HOLY SPIRIT and was crucified for everyone's sin becoming our Passover; perfect sacrificial lamb without sin, rising 3 days later defeating death. Then the individual is at the age of accountability and is ready for baptism. If they know the reason for the baptism is to publicly show they know that CHRIST went in the tomb ( full submersion) and rose defeating death, them becoming a follower of CHRIST and a new person under CHRIST. I have known young children who were at the age and old people who weren't. Mark 10:14 CHRIST tells HIS disciples to let the children here HIM teach, some will take what HE said and understand. Bring up a child in teachings of the Bible Prov 22:6; Eph 6:4
  • SE - In Reply - 3 years ago
    you got it. Mark 10: 27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with GOd: for with God all things are possible. I don't need to know details, God already knows.
  • Ronnette - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Grae:

    Peace and grace to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Thank you for the opportunity to have a dip at the tip of my tongue "of the cup that Jesus Christ drink of".

    God forbid I would hurt the pure. I love all the saints. I pray for the fullness of the Gentiles and that ALL be saved and sanctified by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Mark 10:39

    And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:

    Matthew 20:23

    And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

    Matthew 5:8

    Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

    Titus 1:15

    Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

    Psalms 119:2

    Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.

    Psalms 118:28

    Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The doctrine of election is described as the "total depravity" of man according to the "TULIP" acronym which was credited toward; but not originated with Calvin's set of beliefs on predestination as one of the elements. Simply put; Christ looked down also and saw that there was no man in Isaiah 63:3; thus he renders justice and we are only made right through His sacrifice. If anyone else could have done it; surely Christ wouldn't have to die on the cross; or have to pray that if possible the cup would be spared

    ( Luke 22:42). It is obvious from scripture that "all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". ( Romans 3:23). There are; of course many other verses in both Testaments on that subject.

    We could say that since Revelation indicates the fate of ALL who are NOT written in the Book of Life is to worship Antichrist ( Rev. 13:8) we all are going to turn away as your quoted verse in Psalms indicates. Obviously; some do come to God; but since repentance is a gift according to scripture ( Acts 11:18); and faith is also mentioned as such in Ephesians 2:8; it becomes clear that all good gifts come from above ( James 1:17).

    This doesn't absolve our personal responsibility; and part of this mystery of election involves man's response or lack thereof to the same evidence at least with external appearance. The sticking point comes as indicated when Christ said "why do you call me good"? ( Mark 10:18). Seeing Him as God in the flesh only comes through Divine revelation ( Matthew 16:17). Others see Him as a "good teacher; Prophet or something else as the earlier verses in that passage indicate. Those people are not "spiritually discerned" ( 1 Cor. 2:14).

    Finally; going back to Noah we have the lack of salvation available for hybrid offspring of the fallen angels; as well as those angels themselves. Therefore; a universal destruction occured; except for Noah "perfect in his generations" ( Gen. 6:9). This indicates pure human seed; not sinless


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