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Thanks for your explanation, JC Servant, which I can certainly agree to. Though when I first looked at the question by Dorothy, I mulled over it for a very long time, looking at several Scriptures where these terms were used in the NT. And even after giving some time over this question, I still wasn't able to come to any conclusion as to why Jesus sometimes used the personal pronoun & at other times used the phrase, Son of Man.

For example, in Mark 14:21 we read, "The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born."

And then in verses 24 & 25, "And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many...Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

If Jesus uses 'Son of Man' in verse 21, would He not also say (in v 25), 'This is the Son of Man's blood of the new testament...Verily the Son of Man says unto you, He will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that the Son of Man drinks it new in the kingdom of God.'

Or, back to verse 21, using the personal pronoun instead, 'I indeed goeth...but woe to that man by whom I am betrayed...."

If anyone has thoughts why Jesus chose to use that term in some of His Words to the people & then at other times uses the personal pronoun. There could be some nuance in eastern thought & expression that prompts such usage at various occasions of verbal expression. Some have suggested that it was the Gospel writers' choice to use them since it was their recollection of events & words spoken & not necessarily Jesus' Words, which of course can't be ascertained. Maybe what we might learn will then help Dorothy with her question.

The next prophetic event which will & can occur at anytime is the coming of the LORD Jesus in the clouds ( Mark 14:62), 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18. In Act 26:8 Paul ask King Agrippa why we would think it an incredible thing that God should raising the Dead. When Jesus Christ come the the earth he will bring with him the dead in Christ and they will be united with their resurrected bodies a body like unto his (Jesus's) resurrected body Philippians 3:21. We (saved) who are alive and remain shall be caught up into the clouds with the resurrected dead, and so shall we be with the LORD forever, 1 Thessalonians 4:17. When? In such an hour as ye think not Matthew 24:44.

1Thessalonians 4:17,

Please read: Daniel 7, Zephaniah 1:15, Zephaniah 1,

* Matthew 24:29-30, "After the tribulation" Matthew 24:3-51, Matthew 24:21,22, Matthew 26:64, Mark 13:5-37, * note Mark 13:23-27, Mark 13:19 first, Mark 14:62, Revelation 1:5-8, these all seem to be the same event; 1Corinthians 15:52, context: 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 9, has the six prior trumpet blasts then Revelation 10, also lining up with prior noted scripture of the last trumpet: Revelation 10:7, & Revelation 10:6, Revelation 10:1, Matthew 25:31-46, seems to be the end, beginning of judgement. Psalms 9:7,

2Timothy 4:3,

2Timothy 2:3, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

Hope this is helpful

Recently, I was pondering in my mind with the LORD about this account & I knew there would be a discussion about this. For some of us it's easier to fight, much more difficult to submit to circumstances beyond our control; especially when it's unjust. I relate with Peter. I was thinking how Peter had come to the realization the Jesus was the CHRIST, MESSIAH. Jesus had just said : Luke 22:27-30.

Is there much more knowledge we're supposed to get from this?

Luke 22:36, Luke 22:38, 2 swords enough? Do you think Jesus was being literal or testing them? Do you feel the act of aggregation saved the Disciples? John 18:8-9, ( I've thought that) but look at: John 18:10. "Then._." it seems to be after Jesus had already set their pardon.

Luke 22:40,42, Luke 22:43-46, Matthew 26:36-44, Mark 14:33-39, Zechariah 13:7, ( Mark 14:27 , Matthew 26:56 )

Matthew 16:15-27,

* Mark 14:27, offended? Matthew 26:33-35,

Mark 14:42-50, Luke 22:47-51, John 18:10-11, Matthew 26:50-52, Were they offended because Jesus didn't fight, nor let them? after He had said to get swords? Would we be offended if Jesus healed our enemy, we thought we were defending Him from? Then rebuke them/Peter or us openly? John 18:6, Matthew 26:53,

Luke 22:54, John 18:15, Why did Peter follow? Luke 22:33, Where is our strength? In our flesh & resolve, or GOD & HIS will?

Mark 14:29-31,

Luke 22:55-62,

Matthew 10:17-22, Matthew 10:28-34,

Acts 12:1-12,

Romans 8:34-39,

Ephesians 6:10-18,

Do you think it was much easier to fight? Matthew 26:41, Luke 22:32,

Isaiah 55:8-9,

Hello, that's a question I haven't heard before. Since food, dinners, has been involved in Jesus's ministry, including symbolism: bread, wine, and his first miracle was wine for a wedding feast, I personally believe there will likely be food in heaven. But I don't know of any scripture that directly says it. But here's one verse...

Mark 14:25

Regardless, heaven will be mindblowingly amazing. I think your best day on earth with a max 10/10 fun here would be like less than 1% of the 100% scale of love, pleasure, fun and good feelings that will be had in heaven, based on my opinion of how I interpret the scripture about it.

John 11:55, Mark 14:12, John 6:4, Luke 22:1,

John 12:1,12,13, John 13:1-2,

Matthew 27:15,

1st Sabbath being the Passover feast.

Exodus 12,

2nd Sabbath Matthew 28:1,

Psalms 81:3, also significant Mark 15:33, total solar Eclipse, New moon?

We should be careful not to follow after traditions set up by men, but Study to understand. Colossians 2:8, Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:9

Why would Jesus rebuke them over tradition? Because even today it causes doubt, & confusion amongst the church.

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful. GOD's WORD is truth.

Tradition is not 100% reliable.

Hello Carlene Your Records are in Math 26: 6-14, mark 14:3-9, and John 12:2-8 Mary of bethany the sister

mary and lazarus sister

Mark 14:30-53, Mark 14:38, Mark 13:35-37, Mark 14:27, Mark 14:47, * John 18:4, John 18:4-13, * John 18:9-10, did Peter have to show they knew how to fight to accomplish this? Was the presence of the swords enough? Matthew 26:31-56, Luke 22:31-32, Luke 22:40, Luke 22:49, did Peter react out of pressure & fear & fleshly assumption? Luke 22:50-54, moments before, HE, Jesus had reminded them while with HIM, they lacked nothing Luke 22:35, was it the test? How Peter would react; if he would trust in his sword or GOD ALMIGHTY? did Jesus say about the swords because HE already knew, there was already swords with them? Then said it was enough when there were only 2? Luke 22:28,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Exodus 15:6

Thy right hand, O LORD, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O LORD, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

Luke 22:69

Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Mark 14:62

And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Matthew 26:64

Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Hebrews 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Acts 7:55

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Psalms 118:16

The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

Colossians 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

If you're asking asking a question please re-word it. It appears you're denying the risen Christ? Matthew 26:32, Mark 14:28,

Luke 24:6, Luke 24:34, Matthew 28:6, 1 Corinthians 15:20, Mark 16:6, John 21:14, Romans 8:34, Matthew 28:7

Glory to God i need more such like this and verse of the day may LORD,bless you.

Amen thank you God for sending your son JESUS

Elaine,

The HOLY SPIRIT revealed to me, one day after sometime pondering, that it was: Jesus

That was the Kingdom representation on earth, that suffered violence

& the Violent took Him by force, was it also Prophetic to what was about to happen to Him? & other people that belong to the Kingdom of Heaven? Also the Prophets that suffered violence previously.

John 10:30 -31

Mark 1:4

Matthew 4:17

Luke 17:21

Luke 17:25

Mark 14:46

Mark 14:48 -49

John 18:19

Matthew 20:19

Luke 13:34

Revelation 6:9 -11

Hi Dianne,

First, Jesus rose before sun rise on the first day of the week (Sunday), on the Feast of First Fruits, one of the feasts they were required to come to Jerusalem. Jesus fulfilled it, being the First Fruits of those who slept. Whatever day Jesus was crucified does not change what He endured and what He did was for us.

There are five days covered in scripture from the day Jesus rode in to Jerusalem till He was crucified, starting ( Matthew 22:12) ( Mark 11) ( Luke 19) John covers it differently ( John 12:12-50). This will rule out Wednesday because that would put Jesus' riding in on a Sabbath, he could not ride the colt/donkey, it would break the Sabbath law.

In (John12:1-8) it is six days before Passover, some say He traveled from Jericho so it could not be on a Sabbath but ( Luke 19) He went up to Jerusalem but then says it came to pass, so He could have been close to Bethany before the Sabbath. ( John 12:12-16) the next day Jesus rides into Jerusalem. So, if Jesus rode in on the first day, my choice, what is called Palm Sunday, gives you Thursday or if He rides in on the second day, Monday, gives you Friday.

Things to consider;

The third day, or the third day from? Three days and three nights? Days start and end at sunset. What preparation day, the Passover day or Friday? Passover is the 14 th of Nisan, a preparation day, one day separate from the feast 15 th - 21 st, People then and now consider it an eight-day feast and calling it the feast of Passover or the feast of unleavened bread, it is two separate things.



You see in ( John 13:1) ( Luke 22:1) ( Matthew 26:17) and in ( Mark 14:12) the first day of unleavened bread when they kill the Passover. They kill the Passover on the 14 th same day Jesus was crucified, not during the feast of unleavened bread, that started the 15 th. We have to look close with eyes wide open.

This is not enough to rightfully cover. I hope this is enough for studying, and not just enough to confuse.

RLW

WHO IS JESUS? PLEASE STUDY YOUR SCRIPTURE: Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. AND VERSE 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: AND AGAIN IN REVELATION 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. ----BUT IN ISAIAH 44:"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." AND AGAIN ISAIAH 48:12Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.---WHY HE IS THE FIRST? BECAUSE HE IS THE BEGINNING OF ALL: GENESIS 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. AND HE IS THE LAST: ECCLESIASTES 12:7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.--- AND AGAIN IN MATTHEW 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. AND ALSO IN ( MARK 14:24; LUKE 22:20; AND IN 1 CORINTHIANS 11:25) ALL OF THESE VERSES DECLARED ABOUT THE NEW COVENANT. BUT THE COVENANT IS EVERLASTING IN EXODUS 31:16"Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant." AND AGAIN IN LEVITICUS 24:8Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.---THERE IS A CONTINUATION (NEXT COMMENT)

In reply to Olivia jessica burgos on Mark 14:25

Good Question! It is difficult to know one verse without knowing the context of the passage. Lord Jesus made it in reference to the Communion Supper He instituted with the apostles.

Basically He was saying that He would sup with us again when we are with Him again in Heaven. The communion was given to us to remember the works that Jesus did for us while here on Earth.

One does not get saved in participating in this event as some believe. Jesus gave it as an ordinance to help us remember and celebrate Him.

When the Lord returns for us, we won't celebrate with just wine and bread. We will celebrate with Him in Heaven in a great feast. I pray this helps.

To boil it down even further, we are to love Him, learn of Him, praise Him, and follow Him. Go out and make disciples, baptizing them as Matthew 28: 18-20 tells us too. So when He comes back, we will be found faithful.

Powerful passage, reveals the omniscience of the Lord knowing all that will come to pass.

v 51, 52 shows us in our spiritual state when we are clothed in our own selves and not in Christ Jesus. We are "naked" and have no power against the flesh. We have no testimony no witness for His sake. Even Peter follows afar off. V54

Have you anointed Jesus in your heart as the woman did. She did it in a public forum, before all. I need to pray continually for the grace of God that I stand fast and not deny Him in my daily living amongst men.

It is very easy to praise the Lord and worship Him amongst the believers in church and fellowship, but I need to be faithful even amongst the unbelievers and deniers of the faith.

Though there are many areas of the faith, doctrines, that we may not agree on; let us pray for each other and lift each other up to the throne of grace. Let us pray even for the people God has placed over us in positions of authority. ( Romans 13: 1-5, 1 Tim 2:1-6; 2 Peter 3:9)

Let's lift up the current administration, President Biden, in Christ Name. Those who sit on the bench of the supreme court and of course our 100 senators and 441 (or so) house representatives. (435 stated elected, and 6 from the territories and common wealth of the USA). Sorry for the civics lesson. Pray for your own local state leaders.

God bless all. And lest we forget, pray for the peace in Jerusalem. May we be found faithful as we await the coming of the Lord Jesus in the clouds. 1 These 4: 11- 18

Hey Wesley

The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.

The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)



The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.

Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)

White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.

The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.

This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.

RLW

Brother Richard IN CHRIST

Your comment that the Holy Spirit had revealed a truth to you thru:

Leviticus 21:10 and Mark 14:63

Christ is our High Priest; we are his garments.

I'm glad you shared those verses, I had never put them together.

Good day to you my brother Earl. As I also enjoyed reading of your post of Scriptures put together.

A couple interesting things the Holy Spirit has led me to today studying the Scriptures.

One thing just interesting was that is was a "sin", or not allowed, for a high priest to rend his clothes. Leviticus 21:10. As the high priest is said to have done in Mark 14:63.

On a more divine note that in the OT in Joel 2:32 stating "whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be delivered/saved". Speaking of YHWH Almighty God. In Romans 10:13 almost the same words though now speaking of Christ. John 10:30,

Have a Blessed day brother Earl.

Hi Jesse. I do agree, as we see in Mark 1:41-45, that the people thronged Him & probably for the wrong reasons & this forced Jesus to withdraw from them & pursue the Father's Will in His Way & His Timing.

I also see the oft used phrase, "My hour is not yet come" (as seen in John 2:1-5: Wedding at Cana; John 7:1-9: when urged to present Himself; John 7:25-30 & John 8:20: when about to be arrested). It seems that all Jesus' miracles, His talks, even the places He went to, were directed by His Father according to the Plan laid out for Him. The Plan being, that certain things had to happen (not sooner or later) for the duration of those 33 years He lived on Earth. Even though He was encouraged by His Mother, brethren & disciples to do more miracles or take advantage of the crowds that gathered, Jesus knew that the time appointed to Him would be violated by doing so & that all that was necessary for Him to do during those years were foreordained for a reason. And so He could finally exclaim: "that His hour had come" ( Mark 14:41, John 17:1) when He knew that His Work on Earth was nearing completion, culminating at the Cross.

I wonder whether by making Himself more prominent or proving Himself as the Messiah in a greater more dynamic way, would have thwarted the Plan of God for His Life (from the cradle to the cross) and therefore would fail to bring on the full & proper results as the Father had ordained. Just a few thoughts to add to yours, Jesse.

Brothers Jesse and Bob, I believe you are wrong concerning this matter. Here's why.

1. Jesus supersedes anything from the Old Testament.

2. Jesus in Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. What else does Chapter 22 say concerning purchasing a sword? Luke 22:8 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. Who goes to war with 2 swords? No, the purpose of buying the swords was to fulfill Mark 14:47 = And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear. And Luke 22:49-51 = When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him. They needed the two swords to fulfill the other verses.

3. I'd also like to point out Matthew 26:52 = Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

The time is quickly coming where this is going to be a serious issue for Christians. You will be asked to decide between your faith and the death of your family. You must choose your faith. Jesus even said so - Matthew 10:37 =

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. This is where the road narrows and many Christians will fail because they are unprepared.

Revelation 13:10 ... he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword ...

Perhaps someone can tell me when Jesus advocated violence. Except for the money changers in the temple, you can't. You can't because it never happened. You see, Jesus was a pacifist.

Hello Paul,

I did the search for you brother:

Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:62, Luke 22:69

Psalms 110:1

Mark 16:19

Acts 2:33

Acts 7:55-56

Romans 8:34

Ephesians 1:20

Colossians 3:1

Hebrews 1:3

Hebrews 8:1

Hebrews 10:12

Hebrews 12:2

( 1 Peter 3:22

Hebrews 1:3

Hebrews 8:1

Hebrews 10:11-13

Hebrews 12:2

Luke 16:19

Mark 14:62

Romans 8:34

Ephesians 1:21

1 Peter 3:22

Acts 7:55

Colossians 3:1

These verses should be sufficient to show that the risen Jesus Christ is now at the Father's right Hand.

what exactly is the true message God wants me to know ?

Mark chapter 14 gives us the account of Jesus with His disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane. While Jesus was praying there & the disciples asleep, Jesus awakens them as suddenly Judas Iscariot comes in with a band of armed men sent by the Jewish religious leaders to arrest Jesus. The disciples deserted Jesus & fled but this one unknown young man was also there. There has been speculation on who he was, as he didn't come with the band of men, nor was he a disciple of Jesus called to be in the garden to pray. It is guessed that he may have either been in the area & became inquisitive to the commotion going on, or may have been temporarily residing there to do some work. Whoever he was, he didn't flee with the others but when he also was being accused of being one of the eleven disciples, ran for his life naked, leaving his loin cloth behind.

i don,t understand verse 50 and 51 about the necket] man

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So, as you believe, that in Jesus is found the Godhead (Father, Son & Holy Spirit), which in a sense is true, since the Godhead is just that - without one the others aren't complete in Unity. But this now raises two other problems:

a. Mark 14:36: "And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt." If Jesus is now God on Earth without a God in Heaven, then to Whom is Jesus crying out to? And for what reason? Surely, it can't be a cry to Himself as God the Father, since that becomes nonsense & also that Heaven is now devoid of the Divine.

b. 1 Peter 3:22; Hebrews 1:3, 8:1, 12:2; Romans 8:34, etc. All these Scriptures show us that Jesus is now seated at the Father's right Hand & Jesus Himself said, "I go to the Father" ( John 16:16). How should I understand such declarations if the Father only exists now in the Person of Jesus? Is Jesus going to His Father that is already Himself? Such interpretations are mind-boggling that even go past the mystery of the Trinity. I'm sorry, but what you expect me to believe goes into the realm of extra-biblical claims & would need some careful explanation. May the Lord lead us into His Truth.

Mark 14-51:52 is a metaphor. The cloth represents Jesus, the young man represents Jesus's disciples, the act of the young man running away abandoning the cloth represents the disciples running away abandoning Jesus.

Mark 14:

12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.

14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.

This wasn't a prophesy. It's a word of knowledge; like when he spoke to the woman at the well.

Mishael