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Hello Jimbob,

If I'm understanding your question correctly, you are asking me about where Jesus said "when they deliver you up," and when this takes place, if the "deliver you up" time period proves that Jesus was speaking of the end-time tribulation period?

My answer is no, and here's why. In Matthew 10:16, Jesus says "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Jesus is sending them out as sheep amongst wolves. He knows what's going to happen to them once they start preaching the gospel, and He tells them what's going to happen in Matthew 10:17-18. They are going to be "delivered up."

Jesus is not talking about the end-time tribulation period here. He is sending His disciples out and telling them that they will be delivered up to the councils (Jewish Councils). And then in Matthew 10:19, Jesus says "But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. (This is not talking about the end-time).

In Matthew 24:9, this is to the Jews, not the church.

In Mark 13:9, Jesus says "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them."

What I notice are the words council and synagogues. The word council is literally Sanhedrin, the chief Council of the Jews. Jesus is talking to Jewish people. He is talking directly to His disciples. He is talking directly to His believers, (Jewish believers). Mark 13:11 tells us that they are going to be captured. As for Luke 21:12, this is also to the Jews, not the church.

When dealing with end-time prophecy I think the misunderstanding of the prophecies of the last days is based upon combining Luke's account with Matthew's and Mark's account as if they are the same message. They are not the same message.

Blessings to you!

Hi Jimbob,

Sorry for the late reply. I have not had a chance to be on here for a couple days. I just read your address to myself and brother Chris. This might be a little long, so I apologize ahead of time. I will begin this as (Part 1):

I had previously asked you if you were referring to the word HUPOMENO because #5278 in the Strong's Concordance is the word HUPOMENO. However, both the Textus Receptus and the Greek Interlinear use show it as HUPOMEINAS, not HUPOMENO. Those words are closely related but when properly used, they convey different meanings. I don't know why Strong's says HUPONEO when the Greek text actually uses HUPOMEINAS. If you own a Greek Interlinear Bible, you will see the correct usage.

HUPOMEINAS is used in three places in the NT ( Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:13, and Mark 13:13). It is #5278 in the Strong's Concordance, but the word is HUPOMEINAS, not what's listed in the Strong's. This word (HUPOMEINAS) describes a person who is saved. A saved person (will) endure to the end. Some take these verses and try and tie them into the end-time tribulation period, and they say that the church will go through this and the ones who shall endure to the end, they will be saved. They say that you have to endure to the end of the tribulation. But that is not the proper context of these scriptures.



In Matthew 10:22, Jesus is speaking to His 12 Apostles. This is the training of the 12 which is outlined for us in Verses 16-42. Jesus is not speaking about people enduring through the end time tribulation. In Verse 22, Jesus says, "And ye (the twelve) shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." He's speaking to the 12.

Tribulation: Declaration vs Preaching the Gospel today.

In today's dispensation (if you don't mind me using this time frame as a proponent of that terminology in the church age at present) we preach on the death; burial and resurrection of Christ. We therefore are "blessed" as Christ referred to Thomas of those who have believed and not seen ( John 20:29). There is a general call to the crowd and to those chosen (such as the more intimate discussions between Christ and His Disciples into the meanings of parables; for instance and other matters).

In the Tribulation as noted in my last post by Revelation 6 there is no need to explain these things; only a declaration to the world of judgments already transpiring and to come; a sort of "signs and wonders" prophetic battle between the side of God's angels and the demons before Christ's final battle settles the score once and for all. I proposed that the Rapture is to wake up the Jewish nation; and specifically activation of the 144,000 for just such a purpose to fulfill the original commission to reach all the cities of Israel which cannot happen until that time ( Matthew 10:23). It is odd that until the time of Christ's initial stages to take back Jerusalem ( Zech. 12:12 but also apparently alluded to on a larger scale in Matthew 24:30) that the Jews will not come to full realization of who Christ is. They at least are deluded until the midpoint of the Tribulation as to the fact Antichrist is not their Messiah and since the world at large knows His identity at the sixth seal it may be that they don't realize they have a need for Him to be their personal Savior but they may start understanding His Lordship over the earth. Thus; I would look at the Tribulation temple to be one that isn't wrong as to the ceremonial aspects; since Antichrist himself desecrates it. Psalm 50:8 seems to show this; albeit many other verses show God's disdain at such things. Those who don't know God will worship the Beast and die.

(Sister) Thanks for sharing 2 Corinthians 5:17 .

Read Ephesians 4:32. When we truly are saved, we become a new creation in Christ. The old is passed away. We are forgiven. As Christians we are to be doers of the word. Jesus said in John 14:15, if you love me, keep my commandments.

1John 2:4

1John 4:20-21

The Lord is my Shepherd.

I am lifting you all up in prayer today. Jesus Christ is coming soon. We are living in the last of the last days, and hell is a real place of torment. Eternal. I don't want to go there and I don't want you to go there.

Matthew 10:28

Matthew 13:50

2Thessalonians 1:9

Psalms 145:20

Hebrews 10:26-31

So let Jesus work in your heart and life. No one can put Him there. You must see your need for Him and repent (stop sinning,stop hating,forgive,stop rejecting Christ) REPENT of YOUR own evil deeds, ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness.

Matthew 6:14-15

He paid for our sin with His life's blood when He was crucified on the cross.His gift of forgiveness is free. Please accept it. Repent and be baptized in water and the Holy Spirit.

HE IS COMING BACK SOON. If YOU are not ready, the Bible says you will be eternally lost. I would not wish Hell on my worst enemy. No, on the contrary. I want to spend eternity loving and worshiping Jesus Christ together with them.

( Matthew 5:44)

May the Lord richly bless you today in Christ Jesus!

Helpful tip; touch the verse addresses in red and they will open up. You won't have to look them up separately.

Hi Michael, the Bible doesn't say we will never be sick or have hardship or suffering. It guarantees we will have them, and says we will even be persecuted for our faith. I think anyone pushing a health and wealth doctrine is pushing a lie.

James 1:12

Romans 5:3-5

Matthew 10:28 - says to not fear those who can do us harm but fear God.

It does say if you pray with faith you will basically get what you ask. I think this means you have genuine and pure faith, not praying for selfish things like a new ferrari. That is my opinion.

God bless

Hello Curious T.,

No, I don't believe we're supposed to wear crosses. Leviticus 26:1, nowhere does it say wear a cross, as jewelry. However it does say not to make idols.

Recently I thought, if a person had a friend that was killed by gunshot & had a miraculous recovery. How would he feel, if when he returned to his friends & family, they had an image of the gun or bullet around their neck, to honor him. I would think it would be upsetting to say the least. Wouldn't he say, "your missing the main point." isn't it the life lived?Jesus himself being the example of a loving life, helping others in need? & the hope & promise of resurrection. John 5:21-29, 1Corinthians 15:42-58, John 11:25, Ecclesiastes 5:15, 1Timothy 6:7,

Bare your cross: Luke 14, looking at context, whole chapter Jesus in doing the better thing by healing, suffered rejection, hate, wrongful judgement.

A cross is painful, it's obvious, on view for everyone to see, not something we can hide in our pocket. It causes ridicule & even division. Luke 14:11, Luke 14:12-14, Luke 14:17-20,24, Luke 14:26,27, also Matthew 10, note Matthew 10:36, Matthew 10:17,18, Matthew 10:21, Matthew 10:22, please read in context Matthew 10, Matthew 10:32-42, & Luke 9:22-26, also Matthew 16:21-28, Mark 8:29-38, Mark 10:14-52,

Philippians 2:1-15, Colossians 1:10-29 ,

Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Part 2 of earlier posting.

This form of self-transformation is also referred to as self-righteousness ( Romans 10-3), while in truth you follow after a image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15) and deceived the whole world ( Rev. 12:9), as people by nature are in fact children of the devil ( Acts 13:10).

Gal. 1:11,12. The gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1).

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).

Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Hello Caleb,

Genesis 2:15,16,17, Genesis 3:1-6, skipping parts Genesis 3:14,15, between the seed of Serpent - Revelation 20:2,

John 8:34, 1John 3, Romans 5, John 3:16-21, James 1:5, Proverbs 8:17,

Example, simple Salvation "GOD save me" many times in life threatening situations, & many times HE has. Psalms 18:3, Psalms 107:13, Psalms 44:7, Luke 18:42, Psalms 34:6,

Matthew 10:22, Hebrews 2, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Psalms 139,

Romans 10:13, context Romans 10, Everlasting Salvation, Isaiah 45:17, Acts 4,

1John 3:14, Job 38:17, Revelation 20, Psalms 49, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Romans 5, Revelation 21,

Hopefully these are helpful

We cannot love God with all our hearts and minds and strength and all of our souls etc...And have to plz some Spouse...We have to love God with 100% of our being...Nothin less then our complete cooporation is exceptable with him (Jesus)...He that loveth wife or children more then me is not worthy of me...I come not to bring peace but a sword... matthew 10:37

Luke 20:34...The Children of this world marry and are given in marriage. But them that shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world ( that new heart and new spirit) ...and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are they given in marriage...Remember Jesus is the Ressurection.

Thats y Jesus is saying to count the cost....Its gonna cost you everything...But there is a kingdom involved...Which is greater then all of the possessions of this world....Paul said he had suffered the loss of all things and counted them as dung that he might win the Kingdom/Christ... Philippians 3:8

The anointing we have to receive of him under this new covenant will teach us all things and guide all the way to the mountain which is new Jerusalem..We need an internal pastor that neva sleeps which is a type of Christ in us...Abide in me and i in you...We are his temple as the H.G the anointing is gonna be born in us...I will make a new Covenant not according to the old covenant...I will make a man more precious then Gold even the golden wedge of Ophir...A Man not a church building...He wants to be married to us humanity the world...God so loved the world...Humanity....There is no more Church buildings under this New Covenant...Now the mystery of the Kingdom of God is Christ in you...Abide in me and i in you...Thats where the good seed is sown in our hearts not in a Church buildings...Where 2 or 3 are gathered is simply in the Godhead...H.G. BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER SON AND H.G....If any man hears my words and keeps them my father and i will come and take our abode with him...His words are spirit and life The H.G.

Hi Barry. In Luke chapter 15, Jesus shares three parables with those who came to listen to him. And these folk were both the Jewish religious leaders as well as the despised publicans & others burdened with sin. The religious leaders saw this Man Jesus as a low class careless person, given to receiving & fellowshipping with like-minded people. Knowing their thoughts, Jesus then proceeded to give them these parables that should have removed their objections, if they used their ears & hearts to receive God's

Message.

And the simple structure of each of those parables was: the responsible shepherd searching for even one lost sheep; the diligent woman searching for that one lost piece of silver coin; and the loving Father who waited for & longed for his one beloved son, deemed to be lost & possibly dead, to once again return back to his family. And in all three parables, there was much rejoicing that the once lost was now found. And what should have hit home to those Jewish leaders, was what Jesus stated in Luke 15:7: "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."

I'm sure Jesus riveted His Eyes on them when He emphasized that all of Heaven rejoices when that one lost sinner has repented & is found, unlike those who considered themselves righteous & without sin looking down upon the spiritually destitute. Instead of leading lost perishing souls to God (through Jesus their Messiah), the leaders determined to cast judgement against them & rejected them as the filth of the world. Rather, their own hearts lay bare before their Wise Judge & they would have done well to heed Jesus' Message to them & first look inwardly rather than finding fault in others.

Even those who inadvertently stray away, or lose their direction in life, even as the prodigal son who made a deliberate unwise choice to leave, still have a patient God in Heaven longing for their return.

What was the significance of the prodigal son?

James 4:7, Mark 3:15, Mark 6:13, Matthew 10:8, Mark 16:16,17,18,

Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:1-29,

Proverbs 14:5,25, John 8,

Revelation 12:19,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalms 28, Isaiah 40:29, Psalms 138:3, Psalms 140:7, Psalms 46:1, Psalms 19:14,

Psalms 34:19

Luke 21:12-15, context Luke 21, Matthew 10:16-20, context Matthew 10, Mark 13:9-11, context Mark 13,

Luke 12:8, 2Timothy 3:12, Romans 8:22-39

Hopefully these strengthen you

Matthew 6, Luke 4:40, Matthew 12:15, Luke 6:19, Psalms 139, Psalms 107:20, Matthew 15:30, Luke 9:11, Matthew 4:24, Matthew 14:14, Mark 6:13, Acts 5:6, Acts 14:9, Matthew 10:8, Mark 16:17,18, John 16:23, Luke 11:9-11, context Luke 11:2-13, James 5:13-20,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging & healing to you, that you likewise will help others Matthew 10:8,

i feel that to love a person more than God is very wrong god gave you or that person life and he can take it

Ok, I don't share that particular belief with you because of what the Bible says:

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

Gal 5:4 "ye are fallen from grace."

Matthew 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12 KJV

"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10 KJV

Salvation is conditional upon following Christ. Those who hate or don't follow Christ aren't going to be saved, based on what the Bible says.

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

I don't know how some can read these verses and twist them into meaning anything other than what they mean. This should be prayed about very deeply.

God bless.

I agree. It sure seems like Christians are eager to disobey Jesus and what He spoke in Matthew 28:19. Coming up with every possible rationalization to not follow Jesus's words while at the same time claiming to be a Jesus follower. God is the judge and sure He is big and powerful enough to make exceptions and allow anyone in paradise He wants, like the thief on a cross, maybe someone on their death bed who decides to follow Jesus. But why would someone whose goal is to follow Jesus work so hard to NOT follow Jesus? Ashamed? Embarrassed? Mark 8:38 Matthew 10:32-33 It seems like a Christian that just doesn't agree with THAT part of Christianity, but the rest of it? Seems like an enormous risk to take in my opinion, almost like a heart of pride and rebellion has something to do with this resistance.

Acts 2:38 - some silently add a "Do NOT..." in front of this verse. Could satan be involved in this? He sure likes deceiving Christians into doing the opposite of what Jesus tells them.

John 14:15 - Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. Does someone who doesn't obey Jesus truly love Jesus then?

Psalm 56. In this Psalm once again we see the pleading of David to God in relation to the pursuing enemies. The story of the backdrop in Gath was complex; but basically David had a tenuous relationship with the Philistines while he made them rich fighting surrounding tribes; but acting as though he was fighting against Israel so as to obtain residence and favor while there. Obviously; there would be enemies from without and within as well as Saul always in the backdrop; even if put at bay for a time.

Matthew 10:28 comes to mind when we look at verse 11; and verse 13 also shows salvation of the soul spiritually overrides any fears of man in this world.

Verse 8 needs some explanation. The book here seems to reference something more specific than that of the Book of Life. It may be the same thing or something similar to the Book of Remembrance in Malachi 3:6-18. God surely knows all things and in fact every word we speak we are held accountable for in Judgment Day. ( Matthew 12:36). We are reminded here and with apparently another 99 verses in the Word about sorrow in the lives of believers (see Isaiah 53:3 for the life of Christ as it truly was rather than some sentimental story).

Finally, it should be noticed from verses 3 and 11 that TRUST is an important aspect to true belief in Christ. It is more than mental assent or knowing about Christ. It is trusting our lives to Him; our possessions; our relationships; our vocations; our ALL. It is helpful through this not to place trust ultimately in anything or anyone else; especially ourselves. As Psalm 23 states even through the shadow of death He shall guide us. His Word is true ( 2 Cor 1:18-20; Rev. 3:14). Let us put our trust in Him today and always.

Wisdom part 4

How the family interacts also shows how those who value children as a heritage from the Lord are blessed by prosperity. There are many principles the Amish for instance demonstrate by providing food from their own crops; labor from their children and eliminating waste with those endless gadgets and luxuries the rest of America has felt entitled to. This has largely kept their children from the suicidal; ungodly society rife with all sorts of sins that are bringing this generation at an unprecidented rate to physical and spiritual destruction. This is not to say that there aren't things being put under the rug in those closed societies (I won't mention anything specific here but a little research will demonstrate one particular issue). Nonetheless we see a society which has maintained an amazing amount of stability compared to the rest of Americans largely obsessed with the cares of this life.

One of my favorite scriptures is Matthew 10:16. We are to be wise but maintain a clear conscience. One thing I may have brought up before is how many are attempting to insulate their children from the evils of this world; while all the time exposing them to graphic virtual reality in video games; and other forms of entertainment and whatever they are being indoctrinated into in their schools. We are obsessed with always saying things that are inoffensive; yet leave little room for any real discussion; debate or even confrontations. It used to be much better it seems to me when kids would have occasional fistfights; rather than going out the whole way with guns (like they see in the movies). The wise thing I would say is to teach ALL these kids self defense and how to properly use weapons once they are teenagers so than any nut jub would know there would be say 20 or 30 others attacking them if they decided to go rogue (as well as having the teachers and other sources of protection actually doing their job along with enforcing penalties for crime.

John 15:18

Matthew 10:22

The world hated Jesus first. I'm really concerned about the world currently, because people are exchanging truth for lies as the shinier more appealing object of their affection. Truth seems unpopular in current times- this is hard to see unfold as I used to have hope for a brighter future.

Fortunately God gave us this test to determine if spirits (including voices) are from God or not:

1 John 4:1-3

Also God says do not fear the enemy/satan. He holds no power over us:

Matthew 10:28

He can only tempt, but we can resist and he will flee. We always have a way out if we look for it.

1 Corinthians 10:13

So, you do not need to worry or have any fear about these. If you rebuke the evil spirits in the name of Jesus they will go away.

Matthew 4:10

Mark 9:28-29 Prayer

I am praying for you now. God bless you in the name of Jesus. I would do absolutely everything to dedicate your life to following Jesus, including fasting, reading the word, prayer, praise. Get rid of any filth you can and replace it with God's purity. Don't hang on to any of it. End times are near. Also, watch out for false prophets. They may lurk anywhere, even in this forum. Rely on God's truth, not on man's itching ears who love to spread lies from satan.

There is a phrase I heard while travelling: "Same, but Different"

This might explain the seemingly paradoxical relationship of the trinity or Godhead. Exactly how much the same are they and exactly how different are they? We don't know, we're only humans with limited capacity to comprehend this and no Earthly experience with this relationship. We only know what God's word says...

1 John 5:7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

1 Kings 8:60 That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Isaiah 9:6

John 10:38

"...the Father is in me, and I in him."

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

1 John 5:20

"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."

Acts 17:29

"Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or sto

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

1 Timothy 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;"

True God: ( 1 John 5:20) - This is a direct assertion that Jesus, being the true God, is not only divine, but is the Divine. Because the Bible says there is only one God, this is describing His nature as part of the triune God.

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." The Son is called "God."

I Am: ( John 8:58, with Exodus 3:14) - When Jesus ascribed to Himself this title, the Jews tried to stone Him for blasphemy.

2 Pet. 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"

"our God and our Saviour"

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Severe penalty for denying Jesus.

Matthew 10:22, 2 Thessalonians 2:10.

Hi Dr Lyle Lee.

I agree with you on the two Gospels being preached. Where some get confused is they think that means there's 2 means to salvation. But that's not so.

HERE'S A ARTICLE FROM J VERNON MCGEE ON THIS.

( This may take several posts)

Part 1.

The gospel of the kingdom is the preaching of John the Baptist: "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 3:2). We do not preach that gospel today. The Lord Jesus preached it when He first began (see Matthew 4:17), and He sent His disciples out, saying, "Goto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 10:6,7). These men went out and preached that, but the day came when that changed. After His death and resurrection He said, "Don't just go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but go now to the world" (see Mark 16:15). And to the world was to be preached the gospel of Christ. Paul mentions in Romans 15:19, "I have fully preached the gospel of Christ." Read his epistles and you'll find that the gospel he preached was that of the death and resurrection of Christ. He wrote to the Corinthians and said, "I delivered unto you first of all the gospel. And the gospel I preach is the one that you believed in, the one that saved you." Well, what is it, Paul? It's "that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" ( 1 Corinthians 15:3). That's the gospel, it's nothing but the gospel, and nothing else is the gospel. Even if an angel from heaven appears to you and preaches any other gospel, Paul says let him be accursed! (See Galatians 1:8.) Because there's only one gospel that we are to preach today. We do not preach the gospel of the kingdom. I wish we could get that through today to a great many who are talking about the gospel of the kingdom.

See part 2.

This Psalm has the first direct reference to hell in verse 6 as to the punishments inflicted (snares; fire and brimstone and an horrible tempest). David understands in his own life how those who persecute him in verses 1 through 3 how men such as himself are to go into hiding (verse 1). He shows in verse 2 the general attitude of the wicked persecuting the righteous.

Verse 3 seems to suggest the foundations as being those things promised of God or the boundaries set beyond which man cannot pass. We can remind ourselves of what Christ said in Matthew 10:28 about those who can only destroy the body; in regard to fearing what God can do to both body and soul in eternal judgment.

Verse 5 shows the understanding of God chastising those He loves ( Rev. 3:19 among others).

There is a difference between that and God's judgment; as the righteous in this age are going before the Bema Seat; but the wicked to the Great White Throne Judgment. God's promises are always eternal; whether to the souls of the elect; or to His covenants on earth.

We are reminded of such verses as Proverbs 5:22 and the evil devices of man. These are numerous. In fact there are hundreds of verses on man's wickedness. We are reminded in verse 5 that we are never to love violence as the wicked do. Justice may be served without glorifying the necessary penalties rendered under the law without removing corporate punishment. We need to be careful not to get caught up in all the entertainment that displays such behavior; and this includes sports. Maybe one can watch boxing without glorifying violence; but in hockey games in particular it is almost guaranteed that fighting will occur in almost every game at some point. The same thing holds true for those fighting on the battle field. There are those who enjoy talking about killing even innocent people among some veterans today. Sometimes we oversimplify international conflicts as well; so we need to think as Bereans not by all the media says

Hi GiGi,

Neither do I get that God would hate what He would redeem, for this would be to do evil that good may come, which is in direct opposition to the principle Paul established as he was guided by the Holy Spirit, that we should NOT do evil that good may come, for fear of just damnation (wrath) from God: Romans 3:8.

In regards to God hating humans, I'm certain you are aware of Malichi 1:3 which I believe Paul was referring to "As it is written" in Romans 9:13.

You stated, "I think it says that it is because of His loving kindness that He does nor destroy humans because of their sinfulness." To this I would suggest Matthew 10:28.

I'm inclined to think hate is hate just as love is love, although each can appear in different forms, which is the only thing hate and love have in common. As I've mentioned numerous times, Love can only create Itself and nothing but Itself. In the same manner, hate produces hate, meaning also that it cannot create Love. There is no compromise between the two. Actually, the two cannot even communicate with each other. We tend to think that fear as well as Love can be communicated and also be shared. Yet this this is not so real as it may appear; those who communicate fear are promoting attack, and attack always breaks communication, making communication impossible. How is it possible that God or The Prince of Peace have peace in condemnation, attack, wrath, vengeance, damnation, etc? If this is God, then what kind of unimaginable monster is the evil devil. Or if this is God, then its opposite must be Love, full of mercy,compassion, light, joy, and forgiveness?? This is simple logic.

Outside the two scriptures I mentioned about the Bible saying that God hates parts of His Creation, I'm not aware at this time where it says this anywhere else. Once is enough. Yet, there are many biblical passages in Scripture that reflect hate and darkness from God. I don't know if I will ever be able to accept this.

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Jesus speaking in context : Mark 10:13-31, notice he started with the little children that were being pushed aside._.. Notice too he says many not all. Luke 18:17, Mark 10:15,

Giannis says Israel, that seems very contradictory to the WORD: Romans 11, whole chapter. Notice, Luke 13:22-35, note Luke 13:27, iniquity, Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 48:12, Matthew 24:48-51,

Matthew 20:1-16, again arrogance & expecting more reward than another? Again if you go back a little in context Jesus is telling them don't forbid the children to come to Him. Matthew 19:14, continued the same event follows. Matthew 19:14-30, so Matthew 20, is repeating the teaching of 1st, & last; meekness, in another perspective same teaching. Matthew 10:22,24,25,42, Matthew 10:5-42, Mark 9:35, Mark 10:44, Matthew 20:27, Matthew 18:3,4,5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalm 1 is only five verses long; but contains several very important themes. Namely; it is avoiding heeding to the council of the wicked in terms of taking to heart; the character; longevity and wisdom of the righteous and their eternal destinies; and the opposing state of the wicked.

There are warnings for those who would esteem men and exalt those who the world does in Luke 16:15. The foolishness of God is greater than any of man's vain knowledge ( 1 Corinthians 1:25). We see this pattern among many of the Pharisees who believed but becuase they did not wish to lose their position in the Synagogue remained silent. (see John 12:42). We must heed warnings such as that of Jesus who stated that "he who confesses me before men I will confess before the Father in heaven in Matthew 10:32 and the denial of those who will deny Him in the very next verse. We see what the wicked counsel of the Jews led to with the crucifixion of Christ. At the very least we must heed to Revelation 3:11 which in my book is a very undervalued admonition about losing our reward and basically handing it over to another. We also must take care not to behave as the world does with gossip and chatter about every controversy.

Verse 2 and 3 discuss the characteristics of the righteous. We are reminded here of Psalm 119 where the longest chapter in all scripture repeats over and over the love of the law of God which is only possible with a regenerated heart; else it ends up being religious self-righteousness. The result of such a character is perseverance of character; and blessings for this life and the one to come.

Verse 4 and 5 discuss the wicked. It shows how they won't even stand at the judgment. That makes it clear why we shouldn't stand with them in the first place. They are compared to chaff (also seen in the N.T. and in Job 21:18; etc).

The last verse shows how God keeps His sheep; and the wicked basically are on a default mode to destruction.

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12

"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV

Judy Law,

I pray for you as you mourn you're beloved Queen. Many in the World are saddened. I am deeply saddened for your Country, all those that grieve & are unsure of the future. Your Queen did not deny Jesus Christ Matthew 10:32-33,

Romans 14:4,