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  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (Philemon Part 2):

    Philemon 1:10 - I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

    I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, and the word Onesimus means useful. They gave slaves these different names. He used to be a useful slave, and now he has a reputation of being useless. But Onesimus my son, whom I have begotten, or given birth, in my bonds, or while I'm chained up:

    Philemon 1:12 - Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels:

    Whom I have sent again, meaning Onesimus: thou therefore receive him, that is, my own bowels: He's saying by receiving Onesimus, you're receiving my own heart.

    Philemon 1:15 - For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;

    Sometimes holding on to people is the worst thing possible. Basically, what he is saying is you lost your slave so that you can gain him back as a brother. Of course, Philemon didn't know all of this. You might relate to children who want to leave the home and get out and see the world as soon as possible. Sometimes the best thing to do is to accommodate them and say go out and see the world.

    They leave and find out that it's not the way they think it is, and they come back. Perhaps you'll lose a son or daughter for a few years, but you'll gain them back. Sometimes you got to let them go. Sometimes you have to lose people to gain them back as saved brothers and sisters.

    This is quite a letter. I didn't find much to share from a Biblical Greek perspective, but if we wanted to learn and discuss the topics of forgiveness, salvation, and grace, this would be a great book to go over.

    Anyway, this finishes Paul's writings. Next, I will begin, Lord willing, the book of Hebrews. There isn't any book in the bible that I know of that gives a description of Jesus Christ and God having come in the person of Christ more than the book of Hebrews.

    Blessings to you all, and good night!
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    Biblical Greek Perspectives:

    Well, as I mentioned earlier this evening, Philemon is very short so I decided to take on the tedious task of going through this one-chapter book so here's what I would like to share with you.

    (Philemon Part 1):

    Authored by Paul and Timothy, and written to a Christian businessman by the name of Philemon who was living in the city of Colossae. And he wrote to him concerning Philemon's run-away slave Onesimus. Philemon was written at the same time as Colossians. The Theme of Philemon is the portrayal of the Gospel expressed between Paul and Philemon over Philemon's slave Onesimus.

    Philemon 1:6 - That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

    That the communication of thy faith may become effectual, and the word effectual means energized, by the acknowledging, or full knowledge (EPIGNOSEI) of every good thing, and that's AGATHOS, spiritual good, which is in you in Christ Jesus.

    And that the fellowship, which is what the word communication means, KOINONIA. That the fellowship of your faith might become energized to the full knowledge of every good thing that's in you toward Christ, so that it would continue his ministry and his testimony.

    Philemon 1:7 - For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother.

    In the Greek language, they would use the inner organs of the body to express something that is not surface. In other words, we're talking about a love that is from the gut. That's how the Greeks would say it. And so, he's saying the bowels, or the hearts, not the surface human, but the actual hearts of the saints are refreshed by you, brother. So, he has great consolation or comfort when he hears that the saints are being refreshed by Philemon.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on John 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Jess L,

    This is a difficult subject to discuss openly. Being one is to be united in the holy love of God. The way we can do this is to become one with His Son, Jesus Christ the only way to the Father, John 14:6. When a man and woman are married, they become one as we through faith become one in Jesus. When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist Jesus was filled without measure with the Holy Ghost/Spirit, God's Spirit, John 3:34.

    God was manifested in Jesus, John 14:10 1 Tim. 3:10. Jesus was the Tabernacle of God, John 10:38. Jesus and the Father are one John 10:30 and Jesus told us we can be one as He and the Father are one, John 17:20-23. Jesus did nothing on His own, only the will of the Father, Jesus was obedient to the Father, Rom. 5:19 and as you said, Jesus was sent by the Father, John 5:30. The doctrine Jesus laid out was not His doctrine but His who sent Him, the Father, John 7:16.



    All things are delivered unto Jesus of the Father, Matt. 11:27 and all in heaven and earth is under Jesus's feet, 1 Cor. 15:27 and will be until the last enemy is under His feet, that is death, Rev. 20:14. Jesus said the Father was greater than Him, John 14:28. Scripture says Jesus has a God, 2 Cor. 11:3 1 Eph. 1:3 Eph. 1:17 Col 1:3 Jesus said He had a God John 20:17.

    In the garden, Jesus prayed to the Father that the cup He was about to partake could pass if there was another way, but said not His will but the Father's will, Matt. 26:39. All the introductions, greetings, and blessings in the Scriptures in the New Testament that are given to the followers of Christ and called to be saints from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, two not three.

    Rom. 1:7-8 1 Cor. 1:3-4 1 John 1:3 2 John 1:3 2 Cor. 1:2-3 Gal. 1:3-4 Eph. 1:2-3 Phil. 1:2 Col. 1:2-3 2 Thess.1:2 1 Tim.1:2 2 Tim.1:2 Titus 1:4 Philemon 1:3 2 Pet. 1:2.



    You must study the Scriptures letting the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God guide you to your understanding, not from my reply, or man.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Fast Demas Red 500 - 2 years ago
    "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Romans 12:19 KJV

    "I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides." Philemon 1:19 KJV
  • Koosees - In Reply on Philemon 1 - 2 years ago
    Pastor: God is good

    Us: All the time

    Pastor: All the time!

    US: GOD IS GOOD!

    God bless.
  • Shanon on Philemon 1 - 2 years ago
    God is good all the time and all the time God is good!!!!
  • Shanon on Philemon 1 - 2 years ago
    continue to ask God
  • Jesse - 2 years ago
    INTRODUCTION TO 2 TIMOTHY (Part 3):

    And so, Timothy was considered Jewish. And in case some of the Hebrew and Jewish people would hear that he's Jewish as he's traveling and wanted to corner him and pin him down as to whether he's been circumcised, and whether he's been through the synagogue ceremonies, Paul had him circumcised so that he would be free to preach the gospel in the synagogues.

    Timothy was ordained by Paul and the Presbytery ( I Timothy 4:14; II Timothy 1:6).

    He accompanies Paul on his third missionary trip ( Acts 19:22; Acts 20:4; II Corinthians 1:1, 19).

    Timothy ministered in at least five churches as Paul's representative. He sent Timothy to:

    1) Thessalonica ( I Thessalonians 3:2, 6).

    2) Corinth ( I Corinthians 4:17; 16:10; II Corinthians 1:19).

    3) Philippi ( Philippians 2:19-23).

    4) Berea ( Acts 17:14).

    5) Ephesus ( I Timothy 1:3).

    Timothy was with Paul during Paul's first imprisonment ( Philippians 1:1; Colossians 1:1; Philemon 1:1) and went to Philippi after Paul's release ( Philippians 2:19-23).

    After Paul's release from his first imprisonment ( Acts 28:30), he revisited several cities leaving Timothy at Ephesus.

    Paul went on to Macedonia from where he wrote Timothy this letter ( I Timothy 3:14-15).

    Timothy was around 35-years of age when Paul wrote I Timothy.

    Paul was arrested in Troas and taken to Rome and imprisoned for the second and last time.

    Timothy also suffered imprisonment ( Hebrews 13:23).
  • Jesse - 2 years ago
    INTRODUCTION TO 1 TIMOTHY (Part 5):

    Timothy ministered in at least 5 churches as Paul's representative:

    1) Thessalonica ( I Thessalonians 3:2, 6)

    2) Corinth ( I Corinthians 4:17; 16:10; II Corinthians 1:19)

    3) Philippi ( Philippians 2:19-23)

    4) Berea ( Acts 17:14)

    5) Ephesus ( I Timothy 1:3)

    So, here's somebody who spent 15-20 years with Paul all the time. He knew his teaching. He was able to live with him and watch his walk with the Lord, and he was sent out as Paul's representative to these different churches.

    Timothy was with Paul during Paul's first imprisonment ( Philippians 1:1; Colossians 1:1; Philemon 1:1) and went to Philippi after Paul's release ( Philippians 2:19-23). After Paul's release from his first imprisonment ( Acts 28:30), he revisited several cities leaving Timothy at Ephesus.

    Paul went to Macedonia where he wrote Timothy this letter ( I Timothy 3:14-15). Timothy was around 35-years old when Paul wrote I Timothy. Timothy also suffered imprisonment ( Hebrews 13:23).

    IV. DATE OF THE LETTER:

    Written around 62 - 63 A.D. between Paul's first and second imprisonment. Paul wrote both 1 Timothy and Titus during this time. Paul was arrested again sometime after 64 A.D. and condemned to death. July, 64 A.D was when Rome was burned by Nero and blamed on the Christians. So, from 64 A.D. onward, Christianity was an illegal religion.

    That's why there was persecution all the way from 64 A.D. to 313 A.D. Christians were persecuted and put to death because Christianity was an illegal religion until Constantine decided to bring Christianity from the underground and make it a legal religion.

    Christianity joined Constantine's sun worship religion, which is why we have a lot of the traditions we have in the church today. It hasn't come from the bible. It hasn't come from the Christian church in the first 300 years. It came from Constantine's false religious system.

    Paul wrote this letter during his second imprisonment; he also wrote II Timothy.
  • Al bhones on Philemon 1 - 3 years ago
    Question: : Is a man obligated to form a bond with a granddaughter if it causes strife with his present wife even though there was little or no bond with the child who was fathered by the man before he and his wife got married. The wife knew about the outside child before marriage took place but changed her mind later on

    I've searched scripture but haven't found answers to this situation
  • T Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thanks for that amazing reminder

    Psalms 139:1-18, 1John 4:15-19, Philemon 1:7, Hebrews 6:10,

    Hopefully these are encouraging
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Timothy 4 - 3 years ago
    Hi Timothy. Just looking at the Scriptures on Luke, I note that he was a close friend of the Apostle Paul, who referred to him as 'the beloved physician' ( Colossians 4:14). He is also spoken of as a "fellow labourer" ( Philemon 1:24).

    During Paul's second missionary journey, Luke connected with Paul in Asia Minor ( Acts 16:6-11. Verse 10 particularly indicates this: "WE endeavoured to go into Macedonia"). Luke was then left in Philippi ( Acts 17:1: "THEY", Luke excluded) and then re-connected with Paul to travel with him on the third missionary journey ( Acts 20:5: "US").

    Luke also accompanied Paul on his journey to Jerusalem & then to Rome and was with Paul during his imprisonment there ( 2 Timothy 4:11: which you had quoted). So, you can see that Luke, with many others (in the Church & on the 'mission field'), played a vital role in Paul's ministry & provided him with fellowship & encouragement. And of course Luke's medical knowledge, no doubt would have been useful to both Paul & maybe those in such need in their travels.
  • Olabode segun on Philemon 1 - 3 years ago
    why no light before darkness
  • Giannis - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 3 years ago
    Dear Dr. Bill

    Not all the scripture below are totally relevant, but I think they will help:

    Matthew 18:15-18

    1 Corinthians 5:1-5

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13

    Galatians 6:1

    1 Timothy 1:3-4

    1 Timothy 1:20

    1 Timothy 5:1-2

    1 Timothy 5:19-20

    1 Timothy 6:3-5

    2 Timothy 4:2-4

    Titus 1:10-11

    Titua 3:10-11

    Philemon 1:8-9

    2 John 1:9-11

    Rev 2:14

    Rev 2:20
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Elmer,

    Paul wrote two letters to Timothy who was pastoring the church in Ephesus. Timothy's name is mentioned 24 times in the New Testament. Timothy was from Lystra and he was saved during Paul's first missionary journey ( Acts 14:19-20; Acts 16:1-2)

    His mother Eunice, and his grandmother Lois, were godly Jewish women. In fact, Timothy was taught the Old Testament scriptures since he was a little boy. So he has a scriptural background. Timothy was about 15-years-old when he first met Paul. And when Paul writes his letter to Timothy, he's approximately 35. So he has spent approximately 20 years with Paul in ministry learning.

    Even though Timothy's mother and grandmother were godly Jewish women, his father was a pagan Greek. ( Acts 16:1; 2 Timothy 1:5). Timothy was raised hearing Old Testament Scriptures. ( 2 Timothy 3:14-15). He joined Paul, along with Silas and Luke, during second missionary trip. ( Acts 16:3).

    Paul had Timothy circumcised so that he might have the freedom to preach the gospel in Jewish synagogues. ( Acts 16:3; 1 Corinthians 9:20). He could not do that unless he was circumcised. Timothy was ordained by Paul and the Presbytery. ( 1 Timothy 4:14; 2 Timothy 1:6). He accompanies Paul on his third missionary trip. ( Acts 19:22; Acts 20:4; 2 Corinthians 1:1, 1:19).

    Timothy ministered in at least five churches as Paul's representative:

    1) Thessalonica ( 1 Thessalonians 3:2, 3:6)

    2) Corinth ( 1 Corinthians 4:17; 16:10; 2 Corinthians 1:19)

    3) Philippi ( Philippians 2:19-23)

    4) Berea ( Acts 17:14)

    5) Ephesus ( 1 Timothy 1:3)

    Timothy was with Paul during Paul's first imprisonment ( Philippians 1:1; Colossians 1:1; Philemon 1:1) and went to Philippi after Paul's release. ( Philippians 2:19-23). Timothy was around 35-years of age when Paul wrote I Timothy. Timothy also suffered imprisonment. ( Hebrews 13:23).

    Hope this helps!
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I was referring to your reference Romans 28:1 which is non-existent. So I then picked out Proverbs 28:1 & Philemon 1:8 as examples. So from the 1611 edition, 'bolde & lyon' are just old English spellings for the words we use as 'bold & lion'; no misspelling here, just 17th Century English. Some people prefer to read the Bible in that old English, but for me, the version we have now is fine & correct. Hope that helps you.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Texsis. I couldn't place "bold" in that reference you gave (which doesn't exist of course), but the word does appear in Romans 10:20. Then in the 1611 Edition of the KJB, we can find "bolde" in a couple of verses ( Proverbs 28:1 & Philemon 1:8). In all these instances, the meaning remains unchanged, regardless of whether modern or olde English is read.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Ephesians 3 - 3 years ago
    Because Paul literally was a prisoner. Ephesians 3,

    Philemon 1:9,10,22,23, Philippians 1:7,12,13,14,15, here Paul encourages others while in "bonds" , even saying it gives others boldness & confidence to speak the gospel without fear, resulting from Paul's example. Note: Philippians 1:18,20,21,28,29,30, 2Timothy 2:1,2,3,9,10,11,12,

    Ephesians 6:10-24, Colossians 4:18,

    Acts 20:22-25, Acts 20:37-38,

    Please read the following chapters: Acts 24, Paul is accused of sedition Acts 24:5, Acts 26, Acts 27, Acts 28,
  • The God-kind of Compassion and Forgiveness - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Philemon was a wealthy Christian, possibly a bishop of the house church that met in his home ( Philemon 1:1-2) in Colossae. This letter is now generally regarded as one of the undisputed works of Paul. It's written to Philemon whose slave Onesimus ran away and became a believer under Paul's teaching. According to this hypothesis, Onesimus fled from the household of Philemon to Rome or Ephesus after he stole from Philemon. He then met Paul and became converted.

    Paul wrote to Philemon to encourage him to receive Onesimus back as a brother in the gospel without the severe punishments that would usually be inflicted on runaway slaves (see Philemon 1:17)

    The epistle is the 18th book of the New Testament canon and was probably composed in Rome about 61 ce. Paul, writing from prison, expresses affection for the newly converted Onesimus and asks Philemon to receive him as Philemon would receive Paul himself, even though Onesimus may be guilty of previous failings.

    Paul's inspired letter to Philemon teaches a great lesson concerning Christian love, which involves concern, care, and compassion for others ( Eph. 4:32).

    Out of respect, Paul left the decision with his friend. Why was it important for Philemon to act on his own, without Paul commanding action? past wrongs and focus on things from God's perspective. God used the brief time that Onesimus had been gone to make an eternal difference.

    My comment: people are born again, but it takes some time with the Holy Spirit, to effect those inner changes until they appear on the outside. Carry the lambs in prayer; lead the sheep.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    Moses meeting with GOD, Exodus 3:2-14, Exodus 24, Exodus 33, Exodus 40,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Mishael - In Reply on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    Hebrews 12:29

    For our God is a consuming fire.

    Deuteronomy 4:24

    For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

    Remember the movie 10 commandments? Moses saw the burning bush, which was not consumed?
  • Anghil3840 on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    How does Moses describe God's appearance?
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Thanks T. Levis. Yes, I looked at the 1611 KJV & the photo page: it is as you wrote.

    Re: Hebrews 13:24. It is commonly understood that the Hebrews writer (Paul?; another?) was writing here of those Italian expatriates with/near the author, were sending greetings back to their Italian brethren. If this letter was written from Italy (as per the superscription), then the question: why should "they of Italy (living in Italy)" send greetings to their Italian brethren?

    Philemon 1:25: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. (Written from Rome to Philemon, by Onesimus a servant.)" Again, this superscription doesn't appear in my KJV, though I do have it pencilled in at the letter's head, after some research many years ago. Clearly, Paul was the author of this letter, but Onesimus was the penman, as Paul often used others to pen some of his other epistles (some say because of his weak eyes: "so large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand' ( Galatians 6:11)).

    Thank you for your research.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    I looked into the 1611 version & Hebrews 13:25, consistent without brackets ( ) even in the 1611 photo pages. To see you have to click on 1611 photo print pages on right. Chapter 13 verse 25, then where it says read more, tap. It has the photo pages verses 23-25, above James 1.

    It may be noteworthy that Hebrews 13:24, says "they of Italy salute you", it seems consistent with other books like: Philemon 1:1,19,25,
  • Free - In Reply on 1 Peter 3 - 4 years ago
    Hi and thanks for the nice words. there was nothing stopping me from reading and understanding what you wrote. It was a good angle to put it that way. Never thought of that before. But water baptism has been in a light of necessity for me all my life and is important. To be on the safe side. :)

    Good luck and be blessed with word from Philemon 1:1-7
  • Her A. Walker on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    May the fruit of the spirit be with us still.let labours labor and supply saount of their riches; and be graceful to the bowels for the love of a mother. Stay afloat and be plentiful amongst the zest. Keep a faithful heart and love forever . He too is us. Keep your strength. The hair is beautiful just as well. I'll keep the must.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    Debera,

    Your post warms my heart this morning. Thank you.
  • Debera on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    I find the word of the Lord comforting, encouraging and necessary;So that we can see ourselves.The word can be hidden to our Spirit. When we read life with in us is rebirthed.
  • Lou on Philemon 1 - 4 years ago
    In Philemon how wonderfully The Apostle Paul shows us that lovingly we are to forgive others who have wronged us, as we desire forgiveness too. And God grant that we become more like Christ through sanctification to lovingly and willingly open ourselves to forgiveness of others. In Jesus name, Amen.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - 4 years ago
    Testing "functionality" Question: I wonder IF the three letter designations for the Bible Books can be posted in FAQ for "help!" in our studies { helps us 'wordy' posters pasters pastors? somewhat when 'characters' get close to "ZERO" :) }? ie:

    Since Deu 1:1 did not work? Deuteronomy 1:1 Det 1:1 Dut 1:1 Dtr 1:1 ?

    Phi 1:1 does not, so: Philippians 1:1; Phl 1:1; Php 1:1? Phn 1:1 ?

    also Philemon 1:1 Phi 1:1 Phm 1:1 Phn 1:1 ?

    Full list?:

    Gen 1:1 Exo 1:1 Lev 1:1 Num 1:1 Dtr 1:1? Jos 1:1 Jud 1:1 Rut 1:1 Ruth 1:1 1 Sa 1:1 2 Sa 1:1 1 Ki 1:1 2 Ki 1:1 1 Ch 1:1 2 Ch 1:1 Ezr 1:1 Ezra 1:1 Neh 1:1 Est 1:1 Esther 1:1

    Job 1:1 Psa 1:1 Pro 1:1 Prv 1:1 Pvb 1:1 Ecc 1:1 SoS 1:1 Son 1:1 Isa 1:1 Jer 1:1 Lam 1:1 Eze 1:1 Dan 1:1 Hos 1:1 Joe 1:1 Amo 1:1 Oba 1:1 Jon 1:1 Mic 1:1 Nah 1:1 Hab 1:1 Zep 1:1 Hag 1:1 Zec 1:1 Mal 1:1

    Mat 1:1 Mar 1:1 Luk 1:1 Joh 1:1 Act 1:1 Rom 1:1 1 Co 1:1 2 Co 1:1 Gal 1:1 Eph 1:1 Php 1:1? Col 1:1 1 Th 1:1 2 Th 1:1 1 Ti 1:1 2 Ti 1:1 Tit 1:1 Phm 1:1? Heb 1:1 Jam 1:1 1 Pe 1:1 2 Pe 1:1 1 Jo 1:1 2 Jo 1:1 3 Jo 1:1 Jud 1:1 Rev 1:1

    Ok, done testing -

    you may now resume back to Normal :) Hope this helps other? short-cut takers? besides me... :)

    God Bless...


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