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Revelation 17:15 The waters (seas) which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (this is all men, all creation).

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven, and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth (old covenant) were passed away; and there was no more SEA (whores, peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues)

All men DIED (were destroyed) on the cross with Christ, the Old Law of sin and death was crucified on the cross and the New Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus was RESURRECTED.

Revelation is the REVEALING of Jesus Christ.

Only one BODY arose at the RESURRECTION, you are joint heirs of Christ resurrection. Christ ONLY hath immortality.

1 Timothy 6:19 Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY dwelling in the LIGHT (presence of God) ...

1 Corinthians 15:54 .... this mortal shall put on IMMORTALITY ......

Romans 8:29 Whom he did foreknow (he foreknew ALL creation) he did also PREDESTINATE (by his resurrection) to be conformed to the image of Christ (being raised together as ONE) ...

God bless you

Revelation and the 144,000

Jesus said that not all the towns would be preached to in Israel before the Son of Man came back ( Matt. 10:23). When we look at the seventy who went out ( Luke 10:1) we see what may be a prototype; so to speak of those sent out "two by two" in the future in regard to the two prophets in Revelation. The time of Jacobs trouble in Jeremiah 30:7 shows how the Tribulation is basically for testing of the Jewish people. In light of this; we see the 144,000 also fulfilling the role and God's judgment in Matthew 25:36 seems to be dependent on how people support or don't help out those evangelists during the Tribulation.

I have stated several times the significance that by the sixth seal everyone is aware of God and His Son in heaven and their wrath that is coming. I have also stated that even if the Rapture is hidden in meaning to some; the Resurrection and resulting emptying of tombs cannot be hidden. Thence the fear of the Lord will wake some up ( Psalm 40:3); while others harden their hearts beyond hope as we see the reactions in the Trumpet judgments (where idols continue to be worshipped); and the bowl judgments where ultimately Satan is sided with by all unregenerate to fight Christ in Armageddon ( Rev. 19; Psalm 2).

Hence; we are seeing signs and wonders as in the Old Testament but we have Christians on earth. The church; however represented by kings and priests ( Rev. 5:10 and later scriptures in the same book) is separated as the Bride of Christ from the general throng of believers. THe type of gospel preached; therefore would much like Jesus preached to the spirits in 1 Peter 3:19; more of a declaration. There will be people saved; but as I see it many at least who have garments made white ( Rev. 7:14) may be lukewarm believers left behind or at the very least it is the requirement of those who wish to bear fruit at that time. Revelation 17:8 shows how predestination affects those lost; and those saved are in the Book.

Revelation 17:10,11. John says there are 7 kings ,5 have lived and died 1 is alive now and 1 will come in the future but rule for a short time. Verse 11 the beast is the antichrist (that was and is not) that lived in the past and died, and comes back as the 8th king but in the past when he lived he was one of the 7 kings. That why Revelation says several times he rises from the pit. God balances things and He does things for a reason. He took Elijah and Enoch to heaven breaking the normal rules because he was going to break the rules to allow the beast and the false prophet to ascend from the pit. Isa 14:9 is the antichrist arrival into hell. ISA 14:16 says is this the MAN that made the earth to tremble. 14:9 hell from beneath is moved.. 14:10 art thou also become as weak as we? 2 reasons this has not been understood until now, angels and humans are not in the same part of hell, an angel is invulnerable and is use to having unlimited freedom. Worst thing God can do is chain him from head to toe. Fire would have no effect on him. 2nd thing is chaper 14 jumps back and forth through time and talks about Satan then switches to talking about the antichrist. This is done on purpose to withhold the truth until the time is right and that time is now!

Amen Brother Chris.



FOR THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY DOTH ALREADY WORK:

I believe 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 can be useful in giving us insight on understanding other scriptures and that insight might in return give us more understanding of 2 Thessalonians 2

Such as Revelation 16:8-11 and Revelation 17:12-14. This evil mindset can only be accomplished if the Holyspirit role has changed in a way that it's not functioning today.

Even non believers wouldn't behave in this manner while the restrainer is present.

Here in Revelation 16 and 17 you see the true condition of man's heart apart from the restraint of the Holyspirit.

Even non believers will repent but turn back.

John 1:9 must won't apply during this time.

This is what happens when darkness is manifested in man.

In 2 Thessalonians 2 on one hand we see the eschatology view and on the other hand we see the condition of man's heart without God's spirit.

I believe the Holyspirit spirit will be in the world as he was in the OT bringing people to Christ.

God bless you Brother.

Thanks Jimbob. The narrative on the anti-Christ in The Revelation has received different interpretations - of which I'm not quite certain which one is best.

Using the Scriptures you've shared, I tend to understand it in this way:

a. Revelation chapter 12 is clearly referring to Satan & his dealings with Israel. I realize that some understand that the 'woman clothed with the sun' is the 'Church', but I don't share this view in light of the passage.

b. Revelation chapter 13. Unlike Satan (the dragon), a beast now arises from the sea. Because of the complex attributes of this beast, it can't represent a single person/entity. Rather, I interpret verse 1 as that of the satanic power that resided within the world's great powers (verse 1: seven heads, ten horns, ten crowns are explained in Revelation 17:8-14), and these exhibit the evil emanating from Satan, culminating in the anti-Christ.

c. Revelation 13:3: one of the beast's heads which was wounded to death & then healed, seems to be the last empire, of Rome, that is for now dead, but will one day revive in the person of the Anti-Christ. So my understanding that it isn't anti-Christ that is wounded & revived, but the Roman Empire, from which he arises. What form this empire takes one can only guess, with other nations in league with her.

d. Revelation 12:9: Satan is indeed "cast out into the earth with his angels", but Revelation 13:1 are the satanic empires of which anti-Christ will emerge ( Daniel 7:7,8 gives us view of this - particularly v8: "the little hornlike the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things").

e. Revelation 13:11: I attribute to the rising of the false prophet, exercising the power of the first beast, doing miracles, making & giving life to anti-Christ's image, killing the disobedient, & requiring the mark of anti-Christ upon all. Here is the unholy Trinity: Satan, the anti-Christ (the healed & restored head of the devilish empires that arose in history), & the false prophet.

Sikheto:

I suppose your referring to:

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates, and the water thereof was dried up, that THE WAY of the of the kings of the east might be prepared.

Revelation is very, very symbolic, so we have to try to understand what the symbols represent, in their relation to the kingdom of God, YOU becoming the image of Christ, ONE with the WORD.

Angels are messengers send by the spirit of God, so this angel is pouring out God's message on the Euphrates.

The Euphrates (symbolic) is a river, a river is water, and another scripture in Revelation says:

Revelation 17:15 ....the waters which thou sawest, where the whore sits, are peoples and multitudes, and nations and tongues ......ALL mankind, unfaithful to there creator ..... from lack of KNOWLEDGE ......

All God's words are for each person in this sea of humanity, so when God's message (the spirit of truth and life) is poured out on YOU, YOU began to come to TRUTH and become a faithful wife, TRUTH in you, instead a wife of another, LIES and DECEPTION in you.

THE WAY (Christ is truth, life, and the way) of the KINGS (Christ is King of Kings) is prepared ....and when Christ has FINISHED HIS WORK IN YOU, there will be:

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth (a faithful wife; baptised in truth and life) ...and there was no more sea ....peoples, nations, tongues: WHORES; Christ WORDS have OVERCOME lies and deception.

God Bless YOU!

WHAT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION spoken of by Daniel

Matthew 24:15 Therefore when YOU SEE the abomination of desolation; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the HOLY PLACE (whosoever readeth, let him understand).

You are the HOLY PLACE, the temple of GOD.

Christ was talking to those around him, so this APPLIED to them, as well as us, it was AT HAND, near to be reality.

Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice (of animals) shall be TAKEN AWAY, and the abomination that maketh desolate SET UP, there shall be one thousand three hundred and thirty five days.

What is this 1,335 days? It's the changing of the COVENANTS, Christ coming as sinful flesh, and defeating

death; LIFE by Spirit, not blood.

Before the resurrection; LIFE was in the BLOOD, after the resurrecting, LIFE was from the Spirit.

Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.

Man is THE HOUSE, now desolate without INHABITANT, it died on the cross.

Revelation 18:19 .....for in ONE HOUR (MAN, sinful fleshes death on the cross) is she made DESOLATE.

Revelation 17:17 ...and SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED ..

Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation (house) be DESOLATE; and NONE dwell in their tents.

Isaiah 5:9 ...of a truth many houses shall be desolate ....

Are you DESOLATE; or has the Spirit of LIFE COME TO YOU?

Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ Jesus, has made us FREE from the LAW of sin and death.

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house you are ...

You died on the cross; and become DESOLATE, no LIFE, you were raised a body, a new creation, life no longer of the blood; but OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST, by the Spirit of our Father.

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....

God Bless YOU!

One eighty:

I probably do sound authoritative, Paul said several times it was HIS gospel; isn't the gospel, Christ's gospel, was Paul being arrogant, or had he been taught by the spirit what the kingdom is ----Christ in you ---

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the KINGDOM of GOD has COME unto you.

Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days COMES, and judgement (like the judgement of Solomon) was given to the saints of the most high; and the time came that the saints POSSESSED the KINGDOM.

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall HATE the whore, and shall make her desolate, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Revelation 17:17 For God has put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to AGREE, and give their (the saints) kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God be fulfilled,

Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

I will humble myself, and hopefully not appear so arrogant and authoritative.

God Bless you!

Jennifer:

The word of God is like a great treasure hunt, one scripture is the key to another scripture, and so on. The scriptures put together are the KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, HERE A LITTLE, and THERE A LITTLE:

BUT NOTICE; since the spirit of Christ wrote the words, the spirit of Christ must teach your what the words mean.

Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to his people.

Most of God's words are HIDDEN in parables and dark sayings.

Psalms 78:2 I (the spirit of Christ) will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

Revelation 19:10 ...for the testimony (words) of Jesus IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.

For your questions, has words been twisted by man's carnal mind, YES.

Psalms 56:5 Every day they wrest (twist) my words ........

Are God's words being fulfilled? YES

Psalms 90:9 ...we spend our years as a tale that is told.

Hebrews 4:3 ... the works (WORDS) WERE FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my words be that goeth forth out of my mouth, they shall not return unto me void, but it MY WORD shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and IT (the WORD) shall prosper in the thing where unto I sent IT (the WORD)

The four winds of prophecy; a symbol, of the spirit of Christ.

John 3:8 the wind bloweth where it listeth (where God CAUSES it to blow), and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whether it goeth (it's the WORK of God): so is every one that is BORN OF THE SPIRIT.

Daniel 7:2 ....the four winds of heaven strove upon the great SEA (water)( Revelation 17:15) ....

Do I believe in miracles and wonders? YES, what greater miracle than creation:

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, THEY ARE CREATED, ( 2 Corinthians 5:17) thou renewest the face of the earth.

The mark of the beast requires a post of its own, I will send a second post.

God Bless YOU!

He is the eighth and is of the seventh. The seventh hath fallen. Behold the rise of the ten horns. Gird yourselves. To God be all praise and the glory... In Jesus Christ name

End of comment on seals

The Antichrist will utilize the desperation at this point as well as the supposed invincibility shortly afterwards in killing the two prophets and breaking the covenant to bring out the dreaded "mark of the beast." Before this; the false one world religion (see Revelation 17:3) will have persecuted the true believers on earth at that time; but after that the false religions themselves along with true Christians will be destroyed as Satan only wants worship for himself. It is a means to an end to consolidate power and God allows it for that last 3 1/2 years to fulfill his purposes as we also see spelled out in Daniel 12.

That period no doubt will affect either 1/4 of the earth in total or be concentrated in 1/4 of the earth. I would expect the USA to be affected with much of this; and/or the mideast areas. It depends if we are Babylon; if we ARE then such things seem to come in one hour or near the end of the Tribulation if not it is possible that we are exploiting much of the world in the beginning.

This is beyond the scope of the seals specifically but relates to how quickly one place may fall as compared to others; it seems not affecting the "oil and wine" could literally refer to the oil industry in my opinion althouh traditionally it has been thought to be like the wine fancy food for rich people still around while others starve which seems to have been foreshadowed with COVID as it seems to me the rush on the state stores occurred at that point and also then oil actually was cheap. It doesn't seem like alcohol anyway has gone up in price; an interesting sidenote. Eventually gold and silver don't save in the day of wrath (I'll let you find the verse). In the sixth seal we see everyone hiding from the wrath of God but by the end of the Tribulation they are FIGHTING God. That is a far cry from Revelation 5:13 which if it occurs after the rapture shows praise of the Lord initially. Israel must go through all this to wake up

The beast, the dragon and the antichrist tare Satan, it's his unholy trinity, Satan is the great imitator imitating God throughout the centuries in the the most egregious way, it's mockery. 2 Corinthians 11:14 , Revelation 20:10 , 1 Peter 5:8 , 1 John 4:1 , Revelation 13:4 ,

Babylon the great is deception, confusion, the confusion which people spread: Revelation 17:1 Come hither; I will shew to thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many peoples.

Events seem to be GOD's timing = Noah Genesis 6,7, Abraham 14 generations, to David as references in Matthew 1:17, including within those 400+ years in Egypt, Abraham himself being old before birth of Isaac. & Genesis 15:16.

Revelation 6:9,10,11, Revelation 17:14-17, James 5:7,

it appears to me that the final martyr of GOD's beloved, will ignite. Like the other events in the written Word.

Hebrews 1:13, Matthew 24, Mark 13,

As a loving Father, HE appears to be balancing the mercy of HIS will, that none should perish of the people; Matthew 18:14, 2Peter 3:1-18, & mercy for HIS children, Hebrews 11:6-40,

Are Named and Identified one in the same bcause Many of us see how The anti-christ Is named Identified in the Bible

Ezekiel 25:18 God has named, judged and sentenced to death when He say's He will bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Start @ Ezekiel 28:12 The King of Tyrus is the example, he is also the dragon, the beast who ascends out of the bottomless pit, and goes into perdition in Revelation 17:8

John 17:12 identifies him as the one who is lost, the son of perdition.

perdition:Loss of the soul; eternal damnation.Hell.Utter ruin

2 Thessalonians 2:3 The Son of Perdition

You are so right Chris. I only hope that a great many Catholics will be saved after the Rapture of the true Body of Christ to Heaven. They will see - hopefully, once and for all - that they have been deceived by the Roman religion and will finally cling to Christ alone for their salvation. May the good Lord open their eyes, as He did for me, that they will flee from the bondage of the papal system and put their complete trust in the King of kings and the Lord of lords and His free gospel of grace.

Amen Steve. Roman Catholicism has sufficiently perverted the Truth & ensnared it's adherents for too long leaving most incapable, even unwilling, to break free.

That the papacy in recent times permitted the laity to read the Scriptures for themselves, when only the clerics were once empowered to read & give understanding to it, was an important event to the freeing of many. No doubt many are now hearing from God's Word as 'thus saith the Lord ' and not, 'thus saith the Church '. That Christ is sacrificed at every Mass would rank very high on the list of RC abominations. But God is able to set many free as they consider the true state of their souls.

I'm wondering where Orthodoxy fits into this picture. Do you have any comments?

How does Billy Graham or the "daughters" of the Whore of Babylon enter into the text? Revelation 17 deals with a false Christian church. Each and every description on the makeup of this harlot is on continual display by the papacy. They are false teachers, false apostles. The Apostolic line concluded with the Apostles; Paul was the last of them. The popes have no connection with them. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. The true Church of Christ is made of those who have a relationship with Him; not through a particular denomination. The true Church of Christ is centered on Jesus; He is the Rock of our faith, not Peter. Peter was not a pope. He was never called that by Jesus nor the other Apostles. Jesus Christ started His Church with Jewish believers, who then spread the correct gospel of grace (not works, like Rome contends). Neither Jesus Christ nor any of the Apostles had anything to do with the establishment of Roman Catholicism; they wouldn't be a part of her false teachings. Do what I and a lot of other former Roman Catholics have done: embrace the Lord Jesus Christ and His correct teachings, and don't fall prey to the false dictates of a sinful man in Rome. Once you become a true Christian and are indwelt with His Holy Spirit, your eyes will be open to just how false the papacy is, and you will flee their idolatrous, blasphemous practises of praying to statues, a wafer, and placing anything else before God, as Rome does with their version of "Mary".

The Catholic church has been doing its work, with the biblical reputation that is written in the scriptures.

While governments destroy the lives of people, creating tent cities for the homeless, famine on the horizon in some places of the world, the church is doing the work feeding and clothing those who are the victims!

If the church would speak out the truths of Christ, preaching the law and the gospel, instead silent , condemning those who help create this world we live in.

Amerika, Russia, China, Europe, greedily, selfishly, have turned out this generation we see now! Unfortunately, with the different cultures, there has not risen one with the faith that would be recognized by the world!

With the help of lawyer's we see a world spoken of by Jesus. The truths of which are more apparent with each passing day.

Time, such as these are not much different from those when the white man took the Indians land from them.

The church is like the cross worn around the neck of the white man, as the Indian says we will wait to see if this cross effects the heart of man!

I find it interesting that Billy Graham was closely associated with the RCC during his many preaching events , did they not even call them crusades ? The great whore has daughters too , who are they ?

Thank you Steve .

No other religion on the face of the Earth so mirrors the attributes and characteristics of the Whore of Babylon as does Roman Catholicism. She is a city (the Vatican) that sits among seven hills/mountains; her cardinals and bishops adorn themselves in scarlet and purple; throughout their rule, the papacy has raised and disposed the kings of Europe and beyond; she is drunk with the blood of saints through her Inquisitions and Crusades; she has a false holy father; a false vicar of Christ; she presents a false gospel of works; she presents a false Jesus in the Eucharist; she worships a false and pagan deity in the "Queen of Heaven and presents a false "Mary" or "Mother of God"; she tells her "Christian" followers that they will have the opportunity to purge leftover sins that apparently Christ could not atone for in a false place called Purgatory; she defies God repeatedly through her papal bulls and false proclamations and edicts by a supposedly infallible pope. All of her false characteristics, teachings, doctrines, and anathemas leveled at true Christians does not add up to the "One True Church". She was never a part of Christ's Body. The idolatry and blasphemy of this whorish entity, her drive to unite all under her rule and her continual desire to diminish who Christ is and what He has done for us leaves no doubt that Revelation 17 is pointing directly at her. She will be destroyed midway through the Tribulation period by the antichrist and his 10 cohorts.

Further thoughts on Revelation 17

The beginning of the chapter in verses 1-5 has been defined traditinally by many Reformers in particular as the Roman Catholic church. There is much in the color of the robes and ornate processions and the overall grandeur of Vatican City which certainly at least partially defines this apostate religion. However; we need to see the future and final fulfillment; and realistically assess the whole ecumenical movement in the last 20 years or so to realize that much of what were bastions of the faith in mainline churches such as Presbyterian; Baptist; and Methodist congregations are just as far gone; and often have traditions very similar to this. This would encompass certain elements of the Greek Orthodox and probably Coptic churches as well.

There is no reason to exclude the mystical branches of Islam (who are considered apostate by other Muslims). There is much eastern occultic influence among those who call themselves Jews today; many of which follow a cultural type of religion; and/or steeped in the Talmud which really had its roots with some of the Parasitical doctrines as well as other gnostic teachings which crept into both Jewish and Christian circles since the time of Christ.

Verse 8 is revealing because not only could it refer to the apparent resurrection of Antichrist in Zechariah 11:17 but also could refer to the appearance of Satan at the end of the Millennium period after being hidden in the bottomless pit the whole 1000 years. In either case; unregenerate men not in the Book of Life still will be drawn into the rebellion. Time simply doesn't change a man's heart; only a supernatural change (see Ezekiel 36:26). May we see that was OUR state when we once were enemies of God ( Romans 5:10) and live changed lives accordingly; fearing God and testing to see if we are inthe faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5).

Agape.

Revelation 17

The great city that rules over the kings of the earth in verse 18 has been discussed by others here. It would seem more likely in recent years that the city planned to be built in the Middle East (I believe Dubai or Abu Dhabi) that is to be some 30 times larger than New York City and largely run by drones) is a likely location. This is bolstered by the fact that the Vatican along with others have been planning to build a multi religious facility for the Monotheistic (Muslim; Christian and Jewish) faiths.

When studying the 10 kings in verses 12-17 under the beast in verse 11; we see an eventual overthrow (probably at the midpoint of the 7 year Tribulation) of the woman on the beast.

This shows that the false religion and it's epicenter (possibly Rome in this case) is destroyed so that Satan himself can be worshipped who is behind all of this and the beast going into perdition in verse 11. There are interesting parallels to Judas Iscariot here who also existed for the 3 1/2 years of Christ's ministry which is the same amount of time Antichrist will totally rule. We have seen hints of this sort of plan at the recent ceremony in Great Britain (can't remember the name but maybe better not to state it here). We certainly can look at the UN stamp and medals with the Tower of Babel and its associated 12 star occultic imagery; as well as the figures of a woman on a beast on stamps and in statues in recent years as well.

The basic theme here is that it is the "Mystery Babylon" religion causing martyrdom initially; but later on with the mark of the beast we see the second phase of killings for not taking the mark. Surely; Antichrist will appear to be the fulfillment of man's dreams and aspirations in New Age; the final Prophet in Islam; the supposed Messiah for the Jews and the self made man for everyone else (again by the sixth seal atheists will no longer exist). Once entrapped; Antichrist alone is to be venerated and life is expendable.

It's not really fair to judge someone based on the definition of a name given before or at time of birth, before the person defines who they, themselves are by their life, actions, achievements etc. 1Chronicles 4:9-10, Genesis 10:25, Genesis 35:18, Neither is it Justice to define anyone by a name because someone has the same name. Please read these scriptures: 1Samuel 2:3, Genesis 25:25,26, Genesis 29:32, yet not exactly true, because Genesis 29:33, contadicts the previous name. Following Genesis 29:34,35,

Sometimes people live up to names given, is it because they've been called so? Genesis 27:36,

However sometimes a name is earned: Genesis 25:30, Genesis 30:13, Revelation 11:8, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 19:13, Revelation 17:14

Many times people in the Bible share name, yet are completely different. Especially 1611 KJV, on this site. Examples today many people have name like Jesus pronunciation different are not even close, or Angels names, that are far from. We should be careful to not be deceived even evil can appear as light, likewise many names have been made to deceive. 2Corinthians 11:13,14

There are divine names given by GOD however, those maybe we should take more notice of, :

Genesis 16:11,12, Genesis 11:29, + Genesis 17:5,15,19, Genesis 32:28, Genesis 35:10, Revelation 19:11,

Thanks for your question, for it did remind me of that. Genesis 5:2,

Hopefully these are helpful & give you intrigue into deeper study of names with scripture & reading GOD's WORD

Amen Brother Fred Scanlan:

Psalms 136:3 O give thanks unto the LORD of LORDS .....

Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is GOD of GODS, and LORD of LORDS .....

Revelation 17:14 .....for he is LORD of LORDS, and KING of KINGS .....

Joshua 22:22 The Lord GOD of GODS, the LORD GOD of GODS ....

Psalms 82 :6 I have said YOU are gods, the children of the most high.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not written in your law, Ye are gods?

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he did also predestinated to be conformed to the image of Christ, the firstborn (God) among many brethren (Gods).

God Bless YOU, Christ's BODY.

Peoples! it's symbolic for Peoples!

Revelation 17:15 And he saith to me, "The (waters) which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, represent peoples, and multitudes,and nations, and tongues.

Hello Nats:

I prayed for you and God showed me these short answer to your question. God also reveals to me you are a very special person for recognizing God. You are correct Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Jesus never said He is God. God also gave us in scriptures in the Old Testament that God is the LORD (all uppercase). In the New Testament, the Lord (only "L") is Jesus Christ. Since God sent God's "only begotten Son" (5X mentioned in the NT) you will find that Jesus Christ said in John 10:30 "I and my Father are one.". Another very STRONG Bible verses that showed evidences Jesus Christ is God are the following )along with the entire NT and our fellowbelievers whom I believe are considered saints:Giannis and Vince who responded to your comment):

Acts 2:34-36

Luke 20:42-44

Revelation 11:8

Revelation 11:15

Revelation 15:3-4 The song of the Lamb Who is Jesus Christ. These verses I sing in my head all the time.

Revelation 17:4

My friend, I will be happy as much as God will and the entire Body of Christ to hear that you believe Jesus Christ is God. Agape.

Luke 16:19-26. The only passage that Jesus Himself talks about where a person goes after he dies. There is Heaven and Hell. I pray all will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10.

Luke 23:43

Acts 1:25; John 17:12 Judas Iscariot is the son of perdition. He went to his own place. Revelation 17:8

Isaiah 5:14

Romans 16:25-27

John 3:16 I pray many will be saved. Keep the Faith, trust only and believe in the blood of Jesus Christ. Nobody can save themselves. We give glory to God for He gave us a free gift, a gift of Grace, the grace of God that is available to all.

Hope this helps.

Roman Catholicism and the papacy are the Whore of Babylon