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What is the signifigance of the Golden Chalice?

Have you ever read Zondervans compact Bible dictionary? Because theses scholars said Ham is the progenitor of the dark races not the negro. What a unscholarly statement you made.

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

What color is burnt brass?

Revelation was written and represented in signs. meaning using people, persons (Warning examples of wicked people and their actions) to describe the message. for example, according to Revelations 6:1-8:

1.The Red Horse: Peace taken from the earth.. They will slaughter one another (Civil wars, the deadly war WWI & WWII etc.)

2. The Black Horse: (Famine The Great depression etc.)

3. The pale Horse: Deadly plague...The Grave/Death ( 1918 influenza pandemic, HIV, Flu, Common cold,

Covid-19,Delta variant etc.)

Why is the world in critical condition?

Satan was hurled down from heaven and is misleading nations rulers and kings:

1 John 5:19; Genesis 3; Genesis chapter 6 and 9;

Luke and Matthew 4; Ephesians 6:11-13; Revelation 12:7-12;

2 Corinthians 4:4

What is the result of Satan the devil's influence:

2 Timothy 3:1-7

Matthew 24

1 Corinthians 6:9,10; Ephesians 5:5

What will Jesus do since his father gave him all authority?

( Matthew 24:14;28:18-20)

1. Revelation 11:15;20 Chapter

2. Revelation 11:18

3. John 5:28,29; Revelation 21:3-5;22 Chapter

Who is law for?

1 Timothy 1:8-10

2 Timothy 3:16,17

john 17:3

My first question would be are we at the ends of time. Show me in revelations where that says. Also I need a lot of guidance with showing me about god & how to be a better person.

Mrs. Tarango

The book of revelation was revealed to John; the beloved disciple of Christ; who else deserve to receive this reward because John has loved Jesus more than the others disciples, his true and intense love is agape and genuine, not Evil desire on it, but love God. ( Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;), (Revelation1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,) And even the scholar of the universities did not understood Paul when he declared that he knew a man, in Christ Jesus that was foretold things that he can not say it. ("Awesome"), By the Holy Spirit help you will know it. {

2nd Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man, (John the beloved disciple of Jesus,) in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (John the beloved disciple of Jesus,), 2nd Corinthians 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;), (Paul can not tell because was not his own experience, but John can and he revealed in Revelations 1:10), 2nd Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 2nd Corinthians 12:5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. (bad sight,) 2nd Corinthians 12:6 For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he sees me to be, or that he hears of me.}

Wonderful bible scripture that show us that Jesus is God.

John 1:29

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:14

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Revelation 1:18

"I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

Revelation 1:8

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

I believe!

God Bless.

My brother gambles with a friend for points only. They have fun. I like Yahtzee; it's just a game right? I like Fish Pond with my grandson too :D

I look in Proverbs for wisdom.

PROVERBS 19:4

Wealth maketh many friends; but the poor is separated from his neighbour.

PROVERBS 28:26

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

JEREMIAH 17:11

As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.

Proverbs 6:15

Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.

Proverbs 8:10

Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

Proverbs 10:4

He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich.

Proverbs 11:29

He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart.

Have a great Holiday weekend

Whiteley P.S. Gambling and taking a mortgage are in reality two different concepts, gambling is spending some money and hoping to get lucky, a mortgage is a legal transaction that involves insurance as backup, with gambling there's no backup, with mortgage the real estate is the security on the money. That being said not judging just explaining. In His Service

Whiteley Not judging but keeping this simple gambling is not Believing God to supply your need, gambling is not absolute believing God is based on trust, gambling is crossing fingers Trusting God is Believing the Accomplishment done on the Cross. In His Service It Appears Someone Is RATIONALISING.

Amen, Brother Adam.

Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

Revelation 1:8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,( THE ALMIGHTY. )

what is gambling?

is gambling a sin?



what is a mortgages loan?

is a mortgages, is it a form of gambling?

gambling is a risk to get rich or lost it?

to me a mortgages loan is also a risk, because if you are no longer able to pay, you also lost it?

so what is the difference between the two in the bible?

RLW I think the key to whether the church will be here or not is in 3 Words, The Lords Day. Please allow me to explain in the book of revelation 1:10 I was in the spirit on the Lords day now some teach that is sunday but in the church epistles walking by the spirit is 24/7. In 2 Thessalonians 2:2 it says day of Christ but it does not say the lords day, no where in the church epistles is the Gathering together called the lords day. Now in the church epistles 1 Corinthians 4:3 Paul states But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you or of mans judgement, in this day and time in the court system its man who is doing the judging that's why people can curse God and do all kinds of stuff and God is so to speak holding back, that's why its called the age of grace, BUT once Christ comes back for The Church it's a whole different ball game. The book of revelation is when all unbelief gets its clock cleaned so to speak. Any additional input gladly welcome. In His Service

Sister Bonnie,

Yes, I believe they are ONE.

Jesus said the following in:

Revelation 1:8

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

God bless.

Mishael, then perhaps you could show me an answer to this verse John 7:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his[their] belly[heart] shall flow rivers of living water" [Jesus was talking old testament scripture]

in case others wonder about why this question has anything to do about Revelation see Revelation 21:5&6

5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

I guess I started that fracas. As a rule, Jesus wasn't buddies with the religious Pharisees and Sadducees.

He did share with Nicodemas and tell him he needed to be born again. Like....

I shared with some JW ladies my testimony and a little human kindness. I didn't tell them they're going to hell and slam the door. I did say when the world starts unraveling at the seams... they might want to use a KJV Bible to understand what's happening next.

I planted some seeds. Later I asked the Lord to rain on those seeds. End of story.

I'm an old evangelist and I've seen everything, on the streets. Heard zillions of excuses. There would be more salvations if Christians would pray to the LORD OF THE HARVEST. Every day. Who knows what a little seed and a lot of rain can accomplish.

Even children need to hear the gospel. Who knows what age "the age of accountability" is??

This is a forum to teach evangelism. We have to get over the "fear of man" to cold contact a friend or neighbor with their need. If we don't know how to start, there are scads of websites on google that are teaching it.

I didn't have that when I first got started. I did it all wrong and got zero results. I returned home dejected and laid my head on my arms. Next I hear a voice saying, "Are you done doing it your way?" My head popped up, and I said Yes Jesus!!! The rest is history.

Wkirk amen sir

how did the discourse on revelation turn into the [ jw's]? it's no wonder people have trouble understanding this book of scripture. to the point where you overlook valuable key to the book in rev.1:19 seek god, not useless fights over beliefs as it says in proverbs " if you believe you believe to yourself, if you doubt you alone will bare it." is god's greatest gift to us love? without this this gift what is it all for? reflect and meditate...

Sister Dianne, food for thought:

You commented, God is perfect he cannot produce something not perfect that's where I think in between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 the rebellion in heaven could have happened and lucifer came down and screwed things with the other angels that rebelled.

I thought God, through Jesus, created ALL THINGS. Since he created lucifer and lucifer sinned, then lucifer wasn't created perfect. This is what other verses say:

Romans 8:20 Because the creature (creation) ITSELF was made subject to VANITY, NOT WILLINGLY ..

Romans 9:21 Hath the potter not power over the clay, or the SAME LUMP to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour.

God' word says he did not make everything perfect in the beginning, BUT he through the REBIRTH of everyone by SPIRIT will make ALL THINGS PERFECT. IN HIS appointed time; eternity has a lot of time.

Maybe Revelations account of Satan falling from heaven represents something different and at another time.

Revelation 1:3 ...for the TIME IS AT HAND

Doesn't seen those words would apply to something that occurred back in Genesis.

Revelation 1:1 ....An SIGNIFIED it ...

Sounds like Revelation represents; through WORD SYMBOLS, things that mean something other than

what a dictionary would define them as.

Matthew 12:38 But if I CAST OUT devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (Christ in you) is come unto you.

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven... (maybe heaven SIGNIFIES something)

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT (of heaven)..

Jesus said he cast Satan out of YOU

Revelation said out of heaven. Could heaven SIGNIFY YOU.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN (where CHRIST IN YOU, dwells). SIGNIFIED.

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

Amen Brother Jesse.

Their doctrine doesn't Just deny the Jesus we know, They also deny the bodily resurrection.

Had the experience of speaking to JW's twice, first time they don't believe Jesus Christ is son of God 2nd I was told the earth we live on now is the new one to come I showed them Gods Word they said we have our own bible I said have a nice day.

The epistle of 2 John makes mention of this verses 6-11 if I'm understanding correctly, to the best of my understanding.

Mishael,

Please do not take this the wrong way because I know you love the Lord and have a true concern for the spiritual welfare of others. Everything you share is out of love and concern for others, so the motives of your heart are quite evident. If the Lord puts it on your heart to go door to door with the gospel, you're to be commended. But we should not commend those who are going from door to door spreading a false gospel. The JW's are listed as one of the largest cult groups in the world. They are spreading a false gospel and should not be commended for that regardless of their zeal.

I've spoken to some JW's in the past and from my experience, it is almost impossible to share with them the same Jesus that you and I know and love. They do not want to hear it. They refuse to hear it. I have nothing against a believer going door to door, but only if the Lord is putting it on their heart to do so, otherwise the Lord is not going to bless that, even if they are "doing it for the Lord!"

I still have them, along with the Mormons come to my door on occasion. I refuse to let them into my home. I am never rude to them. I just tell them I'm not interested and they leave. We are told in 1 John 1:10 that those who come to you bringing false doctrine, we are not to let them into our house, neither bid them God speed (Well greetings), because if we do, we are partakers with them in their evil deeds. Evil deeds are not to be commendable.

Again, please don't take this the wrong way. What what you are doing is completely different than what the JW's are doing. You may do things like going door to door because the Lord is putting it on your heart to do so, but they are going door to door for a different reason. They go door to door because each one of them has a quota that they must meet each month. The Lord is not going to bless that because it is not of Him. The Lord will never send people to your door to bring a false gospel, false doctrine, or a false Jesus!

Good morning. I know what you are saying is true. I could just NOT open my door. Something inside me said to be kind. I told them my testimony, and why I believed IN Jesus. They tried to hide the truth about why Jesus's name wasn't in their Bible. I said it's not right when your Church doesn't have the same Bible as everyone else.

It's like, they know, but don't want to admit to it. I told them I was a street evangelist for Jesus Christ. I was not ever going to toss out what I know to be true. They stopped trying to convert me. I don't know how that's going to pan out for them.

I hope that as real prophesy and the end times speed up, they might think that Christianity is the Truth. Like Ezekiel, we tell them the TRUTH, so their blood is not on our hands, so-to-speak. We've done our best to communicate it. Then we pray for the Holy Spirit to do the part that we cannot do: convict them of their Need of Jesus, for sins.

I NEVER apologize for what God requires to be born again. We have to agree we sin. It's there like a big Stop Sign at the intersections of life.

How can 2 walk together unless we be agreed, as touching the truth. It was last Christmas, that I let my JW friends know we were not going to be able to agree on who or what TRUTH IS. It's Jesus Christ. He's knocking on the door of our hearts.

I have very strong convictions about television and media, but I do not force anyone to share that with me. I find the Bible to be entertaining. I LOVE to tell the stories. Like, how Gideon was hiding from God behind a wall, lol. Like, don't pick me; pick someone else. God saw something in him that Gideon didn't see. God really was patient through the fleece process. Then Gideon finally agrees, and the Lord whittles his army down to some guys who drink water with their eyes UP looking for the enemy. That's humor, drama, everything.

There's a lot of stories like that. And it's sad that more people can't communicate this to others.

Alex,

The problem lies in handed down man made doctrines. Rather that reading the accounts for themselves, they choose the easy path as opposed to the path less traveled. The answers are there for the taking. Discerning the word equals dividing the truth.

Good morning Mishael But the J.W.'s Teach a very sick thing they go door to door teaching that God Almighty neva had an Absolute Son, he was just a Token Son like ADAM , Another Adam . How sick is that .As if Jesus cannot multiply after the God kind,Jesus said to whom the WORD came ( HIS SEED ) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken . It was God Almighty that said that everything has to multiply after its kind and we see that Jesus cd multiply after the God kind as that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit as God Almighty is spirit which is the H.G. the God kind the Children of Promise via the seed of Christ . When he breathe on them he was multipling after the God kind their Child was the H.G. The Child of Promise . His breath was his Word which is his SEED. That was the great Promise i will multiply thy seed as the Stars of Heaven ,thus the Sower and his seed ,his Words. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world, Had he not been God the Son his blood cd not have been the Atonement for the sins of the WORLD.

The one thing the JW's do that is commendable (in my opinion)

Is that they go door-to-door, hand out tracts and visit with people face to face.

Does ANYONE in here do that, I wonder?

They have a doctored up Bible that doesn't have JESUS'S name in it. That is very bad!!!

Remember the woman caught committing adultery? We are so ready to throw stones at people who are doing something right BUT WITH THE WRONG BIBLE. They visit, listen to sad stories....evangelize.

Do any of our neighbors know we are Christians? They can ask questions? Be prayed for if they have needs? Write it on a slip of paper and give it to the Pastor. We are admonished to "do the Work of an Evangelist".

If you need a Holy Spirit gift to evangelize, pray for it. Have hands laid on at church. We're all called to WORK THE HARVEST. Pray to the Lord of the Harvest (Jesus). Ask to have an offering taken up to purchase gospel tracts.

Some people are elderly and could use a prayer of encouragement. See if they need a New Testament Bible. (Very low cost)

These people may all be at the Bema Seat judgment of Jesus. :D All this stuff is going to come up and be mentioned. How wonderful to get a crown for doing something so Easy! Yep. Go google Five Crowns.

I do not give the JW's a hard time. Sometimes I invite them in :O and give them a glass of cold water. Chick Tracts dot com has tracts just for JW's. Yep. Cheap too.

Let's not throw stones... Mishael

My humble comment pertains to the response to Jayden by Robert regarding Matthew 11:28 posted 11 months ago....... Thanks and Blessings! Robert, you have provided much insight, and it brings a particular question from my pea brain. Who was it to say, or how was it that it was determined that there should be the Old Testament and the New Testament? It's almost as if it is to keep a form of division or divisiveness or maybe just a simple form of visual separation between the teachings of Jews and the teachings of Christians showing where humankind was and where humankind is to be....... to be one with GOD, from the Beginning, through the HIS Gift of Life to us through JESUS CHRIST, The Alpha and The Omega, The Beginning and The Ending as is written in The Book of Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Personally, I have said to people that it appears to me that life before JESUS was so very, very complicated, and JESUS IS LIFE through a much less complicated WAY, and as it is written in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." All I can say is JESUS I trust in YOU and only YOU....... Hallelujah! Oh yes, these words are inspired by The HOLY SPIRIT! Praise GOD Almighty! Thanks and Blessings!

The Jews reverend the Name of YHWH so much that they use Adonai instead.

( LORD.) The Jehovah witnesses put the name Jehovah back in every where they figured it was taken out, "PLUS" in verses it doesn't go to deny the deity of Christ.

That's their main pitch when saying they have the best translation.

I hope that helps.

God bless.

Chris,

Cancel that, I just saw your last sentence. That's how easy it is to write a conflicting post.

Chris,

Not so, KJV has accounts of "Jehovah" being used:

Psalms 83:18

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Isaiah 12:2

Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Exodus 6:3

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Isaiah 26:4

Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: