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Darlene,

There are many verses that prove Jesus is God. John 1:1 states that Jesus is God. In Hebrews 1:8, Jesus is called God. Jesus Himself claimed to be God. Jesus also said before Abraham was, "I am," the name God used. Jesus also said I and my Father are ONE. Jesus said "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. I agree that there is only one God, but that one God consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, all three being God.

You know part of the Mystery.

The Godhead is Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Here are verses showing the Godhead speaking amongst themselves.

Different ministries, functions, but all three United in purpose. The LET US. From Genesis to the New Testament.

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 3:22

Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

Acts 17:27-30

Your understanding of scriptures represents you very well.

Mishael

JESUS AND GOD ARE NOT ONE

Folks need to know some facts. We are living in the end times. Many people have been misled and need to know some facts. Do some research and learn the truth before it's too late. The Father and the Son are not one.

1) God is the Father. Jesus is the Son.

How can we be sure? Scripture proves it many times over.

There is One God, Deut 4:35, Isa 43:10, 44:6, 45:5-6, 18, 22

There is One Mediator between God

and men, the man Christ Jesus,

1 Ti 2:5, Ac 2:22

Jesus was "MADE" of a Woman, Ga 4:4 whom God said:

"and he shall be to me a Son" Heb 1:5

God Was "MANIFEST" (revealed)

"In The Flesh" (the life of Jesus), 1 Ti 3:16

Understand that God was "IN" Chr

The Meaning of Matthew 24:40-41 and Luke 17:34-35, "Although many assume that those taken in Matt 24:40-41 and Luke 17:34-35 are taken to be with Jesus and those left behind are left for judgment, this interpretation should be rejected." Throughout the context of these passages Jesus uses judgment language reminiscent of the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem and the subsequent exile of its inhabitants. Those who were taken away were the ones judged by God whereas those left behind were the remnant who received grace.

Furthermore, the teaching of Jesus confirms this thesis. In the Parable of the Weeds the Son of Man sends his angels to gather out the children of the devil and throw them in the fiery furnace whereas the wheat is left behind ( Matt 13:36-43).

The context of Matt 24 and Luke 17 also suggests Jesus is intentionally using judgment and remnant language. Such language naturally brings up images of the former destruction of Jerusalem where the enemy came and "took away" (i.e., killed) those in the city.

Finally, the parallel with Noah and the flood in the preceding verses strongly confirms our thesis. Just as in the days of Noah the people were taken away by the great flood, so those who are not prepared will be taken away when the Son of Man returns.

Note: when seal 6 & 7 start, these 2-combined /occurring together, shall cause the earth to be a VERY undesirable place to be for all alive, even with 401K's, SSI, rent paid, good jobs or no job, ..., never-the-less those AWFUL days could start any minute of any hour, especially after /when we considered all events of seal 1,2,3,4,5, are more then likely fulfilled or being fulfilled globally in 2020. So if we are confused,and most are confused about SALVATION through JESUS, it is still better to be SAVED /secured in JESUS (see John 3:16-21 and similar verses) thereby avoid the 'Lake of Fire'.

Yes, it sounds like earth is being pelted with various objects that have made their way to our inner solar system.

Hi, Jesse. I am by no means an authority on these things, but a cursory review of the use of stars in the Bible show their use can be literal or symbolic. In Isaiah 13:10, the meaning appears to be literal. Yet in Revelation it is figurative.

In Genesis, for example, God created the stars. These are the astronomical bodies we observe at night. However, sometimes things said in the Bible have a double meaning. A star can represent an actual star, while at the same time, there is an underlying allusion to Angels, people in positions of leadership or authority.

In Revelation 12:4, we see a reference to Angels, while in 12:1 the stars represent something else. Some commentators agree that 12:1 is a symbolic reference to the 12 Apostles. Here we have a reference to Christ and the devil. Genesis tells us, in keeping with this passage, that Satan and his angels were cast to earth. Daniel 8 is also supportive of this interpretation.

In Revelation 8:10-12 we see how stars may take on other meanings. Is the star an angel, a meteor, an earthly leader or what some might call an environmental catastrophe, the result of pollution and adverse weather conditions?

Keep in mind, while reading Revelation, that what is written is not outlined in chronological sequence. There is a back and forth in time, that may make understanding particularly difficult. So, what Revelation 8 or 12 or other Chapters reveal, are not necessarily sequential events. The same is true for the rest of the book.

But if you notice, in the 6th Seal, in Chapter 6:13, the stars are cast down. And everyone is afraid and all hide. The symbolism of the stars here, while many mistake them for literal stars, is about governments, powers, authorities and war.

In the 7th Seal, the Trumpets are introduced. This Seal signifies the last days of the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24. The Trumpets sound at the very last hour of the Tribulation. Then the Bowls of the Wrath of God are found in the last Trumpet.

The silence comes before a great storm the power of silence is everywhere and most of all the power of GOD is everywhere so the half hour is not much time to God as we know a thousand years are as one day. I believe a half hour of silence is the minimum needed to get people to slow down focus and listen prepare for what is about to happen. God does not order or command he lets us use our free will to stop listen and respond with respect.

God commanded in his word Be Still and Know That I God, to me the half hour is in respect fear of the lord be for his wisdom and truth takes action. The pause is needed to get the attention of all.

I fully agree with you Chris

A third of the sun's path is darkened- the sun is moving, we are still!!- a third of its path is a third of a day- otherwise we are looking at 4 months of darkness

Just like Joshua commanded the sun to stand still.

We live on a flat earth-we are God's foot stool ; up means up and down means down-

Like clay under the signet ring

The line accross- the breadth of the earth; the face of the earth

Pillars, foundations, the sea being locked up,antartica all around us

The firmament over us ,with waters above us, the firmament strong as molten looking glass

Gods throne over above us in the north- over north pole mount zion

The world has created a system that is trying to exclude God. False science(opposition of science)

The ball earth with the sun in the center (idolatry), evolution, God removed from schools, prayer removed-Is it any wonder children are not taking the bible seriously?

We try to conform the Word of God

To the false science our kids are taught in school-WAKE UP!

Amen!!!

Maybe he is the last Trump. Notice that when the bible speaks of the last trump, it don't say trumpet, it says Trump.

Dear Sister. pray that the lord opens your eyes and please follow no man blindly except Jesus Christ our lord

The anointing of God, my Holy Father, teaches me all things, even thine own wicked thoughts against me and intents to prolong thy deceit against my chosen. It is God that justifies me and my judgment is just. Therefore, thine accusations against me are vain opinions of no truth. For ye are Satan's angels, witnessing falsely for filthy lucre's sake, saying thou art Christ by thine own speaking, when Christ alone preaches truth according to those things given by my Holy Father. And ye prophesy falsely, saying, When Jesus comes! When Christ returns! Yet ye secretly say Christ is come, even raised again. Ye are the WHORE sitting upon the beast that is mankind: ye are wolves in sheep's clothing.

No. the statue of liberty is a bunch of bricks, mortar, wood, cables, etc. The whore of Babylon is the spiritual representation of the dog eat dog society where everybody tries to gain more and more physical luxuries of life even if they have to run roughshod over others to get it. The more a person lusts after material wealth the more they are committing spiritual fornication with the whore of B.

The church of Rome is the Whore of Babaylon and the daughters are the apostate churches, they fo not keep Hods commandments.

A Disciple is the statue of liberty considered the whore of Babylon??

Just my thoughts, We are living in perilous time I have never seen before, What part does President Trump play in the tribulation? It's seems like he has to have a strength, wisdom, and courage that could only come from God to endure all the people who hate him and ridicule him and his family. Why is the house of representative so evil and against him when he is a man of God?

O evil man, you speak of those who believe you, not GOD. As it is written, Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the Gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen

Believers are in Heavy Tribulation,Taking From Their Homes, Forcing Them to Watch Their Children,Wife or Husband Being Tortured, Thrown into Prison or Killed. Some Taking From Their Home and Just Left in The Street No Food, Money, ID, No Shoes. 50 Countries are Persecuting Believers by The Hundreds Daily: With All Kinds of Torture, Prison and Beheading. Tribulation Started About 2000 Years Ago

Contrary to the belief of some, these judgments have NOT happened yet but will occur during the future Great tribulation, the time of Jacob or Israel’s trouble after the Rapture ofmthe cnurch. The great tribulation is Daniel’s 70th week and is for God’s returning to deal with Israel and the unbelieving world. Those who think these things are already occurring are confused.

I think it means just what it says. Something will fall into the sea and rivers. The first interpretation to look for is literal and there s no reason not to take this literally. I suggest you go to got questions dot org and look up biblical hermeneutics since I can t post a link here.

Verse 8~Mountains can be used in the Bible to represent political powers and the issue of government has been a hot issue that has caused the "sea" of mankind to be stirred up.

The journey of life to eternity is beyond human comprehension the mystery is wrapped up in that Seal

SEAL # 7 wow, wow, wow, ... mankind will not like the results of seal # 7... Seal #1,2,3,4, is before my eyes everyday, and somewhere on earth seal #5 is winding-down daily... NOW let us watch as seal #6 get the attention of every man.women, and child. SEAL # 7 wow, wow, wow!

"And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake." The commencement of the "Alarm of War" in heaven, about to sound in its perfection, is on account of all the innocent blood of the righteous witnesses of Jesus shed upon the earth. When that number is full, then the end!

I am so glad that Disciple has spoke out, to warn people to stay away from the Jehovah's Witnesses. Amen! and Amen!

Val Hawn; If I were you I'd get away from the Jehovah's Witnesses as fast as you can. They deny the Eternal Divinity of Christ, and follow the teachings of a man (Russel) who rewrote the Scriptures after his own ideas; very bad! Jesus said that He saw Satan as lightning fall from heaven, ( Luke 10:18); and that we should not go after those who say Christ has already come, ( Matthew 24:21-31).

Chapter 12:7-12 in Revelation is where Satan was cast to the earth. Happen at the MIDDLE of the seven yr tribulation. Verses 13-17 says Satan knows his time is short and goes after the Jewish people and the christians. Read verse 17 carefully. I believe the 1st seal is the beginning of the tribulation. Read the 5th seal, these are the dead christians going thru the tribulation. Chapter7 vr 9 r us