Discuss Romans 1 Page 2

Part 4

Apollos followed Apostle Paul's epistle.

1 Corinthians 3:6

I have planted,Apolloswatered; but God gave the increase.

Apostle Paul wrote this verse and it's approved by God in the Third Heaven.

1 Corinthians 11:1

Be yefollowers ofme, even as I also am of Christ.

Apostle Paul was never ashamed of his gospel of grace given to him by the Ascended Jesus Christ our God and Saviour.

Romans 1:16

ForIamnotashamedof the gospel of Christ:foritis the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 may Jesus Christ our God bless us with this gospel of grace....

Rightly dividing

2 Timothy 2:15 helped me understand how to let the Holy Spirit guide me in the right direction to rightly divide the Word in the Bible .

2 Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

We are not to be buff up with knowledge and brag about it and belittle our brethren to shame, but to love one another in prayer and patience so the Holy Spirit will open the understanding spiritually .

1 Thessalonians 4:11

And that yestudyto be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

Only Jesus Christ will approve what we do on earth with our bodies.

2 Corinthians 13:7

Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appearapproved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

Now that we are saved by believing the resurrection of Christ Jesus, plus nothing, we are to be his workman for good works for a reward in the Heavenly Places.

Ephesians 2:10

For we are hisworkmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

I am not ashamed of the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Romans 1:16

For I am notashamedof the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Even Jesus Christ divides.

Luke 12:51

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

1 Corinthians 12:11

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,dividingto every man severally as he will.

We are to follow Apostle Paul's epistle for doctrine today because he is our Apostle.

2 Timothy 4:2

Preach theword; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the doctrine of the grace of God.

The Doctrine of Grace .

The more I read Apostle Paul's epistle, the more the doctrine will make me see false preachers and teachers today.

Romans 16:17

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to thedoctrinewhich ye have learned; and avoid them.

At one time I would listen to every preacher out there and think it was good doctrine, but I was not the doctrine of today , it only made things more confusing.

Ephesians 4:14

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind ofdoctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

I thank God Almighty for Grace Believers not being in the Tribulation. It's only going to get worse with doctrines of devils.

1 Timothy 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, anddoctrines of devils;

There is hope for doctrine today and that is Apostle Paul's epistle.

Titus 2:1

But speak thou the things which become sounddoctrine:

Apostle Paul told the Corinthians to follow him, Apostle Paul has the doctrine of grace.

1 Corinthians 11:1

Be yefollowers ofme, even as I also am of Christ.

Apostle Paul did not walk with Jesus like the 12 Disiples in the flesh, Paul is separated from that with his doctrine.

Romans 1:1

Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Apostle Paul has a doctrine.

2 Timothy 3:10

But thou hast fully known mydoctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

The whole Bible has doctrine, but which doctrine do we follow today for living in the gospel of grace. " Apostle Paul "

2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable fordoctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Today we may call the " gospel ", the good news. It's news from God to believe and follow .

1. The first good news.

Genesis 2:16-17

16And theLordGod commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

2. The second good news.

Genesis 7:1

And theLordsaid untoNoah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

3. The third good news. The promises and covenants.

Genesis 17:5

Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall beAbraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

4. The fourth good news. Moses and the law.

Exodus 3:6

Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. AndMoseshid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

5. The fifth good news is John the Baptist.

Matthew 3:1-2

1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

2And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

6. The sixth good news . Jesus Christ the Messiah, the King, and the Savior.

John 1:17

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came byJesusChrist.

7. The seventh good news . Apostle Paul with the gospel of grace in the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Romans 1:16

ForIamnotashamedof the gospel of Christ:foritis the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek

Galatians 1:1

Paul, anapostle, (not omen, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;

Now we are here today with the writing of Apostle Paul. We all have a choice to receive the good news from Apostle Paul's epistle.

May God Almighty in the third Heaven bless the gospel of grace to all .

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

We are adopted to the family of God. The minute we get save, we are adopted in the family of God

We do not become Jews, we will have the blood of God through the Spirit.

1. Let's start in Genesis, God said it will start with the seed of the woman.

Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseedand herseed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Galatians 4:4

But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of awoman, made under the law,

Romans 1:3

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of theseedofDavidaccording to the flesh;

2 Timothy 2:8

Remember that Jesus Christ of theseedofDavidwas raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2. Jesus Christ's father is God in Heaven. The Father carries the identity of the child. Marry carried the identity of Jesus Christ through the flesh by the seed of Daved in the woman in Genesis.

Matthew 1:18

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his motherMarywas espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

3. We get adopted the minute we believe the finished work of the cross that Apostle Paul calls my gospel. We are circumcised in the family of God.

Colossians 2:11

In whom also ye arecircumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Ephesians 1:5

Having predestinated us unto theadoptionof children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit ofadoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Romans 8:23

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 believe only

Hi Malekani , that was a very interesting study. As a Christian in Christ Jesus, I am still sinning and it will probably be like that until I loose this sinful body. You see, Apostle Paul had the same problem too, this body and spirit gets dirty, so we need a cleansing. Some would say, " I don't sin any more, I am made perfect ", I know it's not true. But one day we that are saved by believing the gospel will have a new body , fashion like Christ Jesus.

Please, Enjoy my Bible study.

Apostle Paul is the first sinner saved by grace and the doctrine of grace was given to Apostle Paul first.

Romans 1:5

By whom we have receivedgraceand apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

1 Timothy 1:15

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I amchief.

1 Corinthians 15:9

For I amtheleastoftheapostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecutedthechurchofGod.

Romans 12:3

For I say, through thegracegivenuntome,toevery man that is among you, nottothink of himself more highly than he oughttothink; buttothink soberly, according as God hath dealttoevery man themeasure of faith.

Ray , in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 we are not sinners because we sin, we are sinners because we born sinners.

Day 29 January 29,2025 West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar Psalms 19:1 KJV God's Glory in Creation.

Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California

Praise God for the beauty and majesty revealed in his creation "Jesus Christ is God + believe on him sons of God

John 1 :12 KJV"

Psalms 19:1 KJV

My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:

" Heavens Showing God perfection - Malachi 3:10 KJV giving you what you want. Romans 1:20 KJV Confirming me as man according with Jesus Christ God the Father is Victory in Jesus Psalm 18:49 KJV."Jesus Christ is God + believe on him sons of God

John 1 :12 KJV"

Heavens-Everything is the LORD's thereof. Psalms 24:1 KJV. Firmament handiwork giving me what I want and to do (strengthen hands to work) establishments to all the world. Jeremiah 10:12 KJV

Note: Heavens being Firmament- armies defend it agaisnt prince and principalities of the air-evil one. Not to be tried-Triune God.

Psalms 19:4 KJV For the words of my mouth are pleasing in God sight. 1 John 3:22 KJV

Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY

Further thoughts about the body and blood of Christ.

Romans 1:20 and no doubt scores of other scriptures speak of Christ's eternal Godhead. It was known due to the council of the Godhead beyond our understanding ( Deut. 29:29) that God the Son was to come to die to atone for the sins of men; and was first found in Genesis 3:16 (or thereabouts) to finally crush Satan's seed. It is impossible for Christ's sufferings to occur outside His appointed time when He came in the form of a man and had limitations brought about so that He could be overcome through death as the rest of us are to make the sacrifice legitimate. Clearly even glorified men are no longer subject to death; certainly more so for the Son of God! No one can say that in His eternal state now seated at the right hand of God the Father that He is still suffering. This is seen also in the Transfiguration; God indeed is beyond time and perhaps this can be seen as looking forward or beyond the limitations of time and space during His earthly ministry. All in all; of course Christ was involved with the Creation and surely is not subject to repeatedly suffering especially since the sacrifice is once for all ( Heb. 10:10). Satan is defeated and cannot cause Him any more grief; neither can the enemy affect those who are walking in the Spirit now; albeit they can be a thorn in the flesh and if we allow sin to give an opening he loves to torment our souls.

In general many seem to obsess with the fact that God is beyond time and make the overriding assumption that heaven is totally like that today. God Himself chose to allow the rules of time and space so clearly He desires to have times and seasons; and that will be apparent during a literal 1000 year Millennial reign on earth and there is no reason to expect it will be totally obliterated once the new Heaven and earth is created. Finally whatever the Spirit does because of His sacrifice it is available toall; a human Priest isn't in charge.

Almoundmilk99 , God will help get through all your trials and tribulations. The best thing to do is pray and study in a quiet place.

This is my study of 2 Timothy 2:15 that helped me understand how to let the Holy Spirit guide me in the right direction in true through the Lord Jesus Christ .

2 Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

We are not to be buff up with knowledge and brag about it and belittle our brethren to shame, but to love another in prayer and patience so the Holy Spirit will open the understanding spiritually .

1 Thessalonians 4:11

And that yestudyto be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

Only Jesus Christ will approve what we do on earth with our bodies.

2 Corinthians 13:7

Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appearapproved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

Now that we are saved by believing the resurrection of Christ Jesus, plus nothing, we are to be his workman for good works for a reward in the Heavenly Places.

Ephesians 2:10

For we are hisworkmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

I am not ashamed of the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Romans 1:16

For I am notashamedof the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

I will pray for you, God bless you and your family.

Ray

Day 20 January 20,2025 John 8:36 KJV

West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar

Me a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California

John 8:36 KJV

My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:

" Jesus Christ is Father and the Son same language you can understand is God for us to be heirs to all the world. To believe you can do and follow Jesus and become what your expected to be the truth of God Romans 8:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 7:22 KJV. This is the life to live also exhibited. It is used in

discipleship- to show the Holy bible is life

saints/ citizens- free from sin Galatians 5:1 KJV, liability, set free from thraldom, ransom Mark 10:45 KJV, evil ,captivity of Satan.

Freedom from the laws, rules, thraldom that are not of God moral and obedience to it. You are titled to freedom to the house of God and his supper. A example of analogy used family of God Himself.

Ways you can be free from sin are to listen to God's voice and word to obey and follow " do it" (speaking, actions, attention of communications)

Examples of people in the holy bible that made themselves free in God you can read and follow are Romans 1:1, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:1 .

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Tee, I will pray for you. Before you study in a quiet place, read any of Apostle Paul's epistles and pray to God to open your understanding. We are to be perfect for God and work hard. Before you know it, it will be in the pass.

If we were to take out Apostle Paul's epistle out of the Bible, it would be very difficult to find Salvation today. Apostle Paul was a chosen vessel unto the Gentiles and Jews to spread his gospel inwhich Jesus Christ gave him through the revelation of the mystery.

Acts 22:3

Iamverily a man whichama Jew,bornin Tarsus, a cityin Cilicia, yet brought upin this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Apostle Paul is the least of the apostles, just like Jesus Christ said Elias is the least.

Matthew 11:14

And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

1 Corinthians 15:9

ForIamtheleast oftheapostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, becauseIpersecutedthechurchof God.

Even though Apostle Paul made others blasphemy, it was done ignorant back when he was a Pharisee.

1 Timothy 1:13

Who was before ablasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Jesus Christ gave Apostle Paul a office to preach to the Gentiles Salvation.

Romans 11:13

ForIspeak to youGentiles,inasmuch asIamtheapostleoftheGentiles,Imagnify mineoffice:

Jesus Christ gave himself to Apostle Paul and us too.

Galatians 2:20

IamcrucifiedwithChrist: neverthelessIlive; yet notI, butChristlivethin me: and the life whichInow livein the fleshIlive by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

There is power in the gospel of Christ Jesus inwhich the Jews and the Gentiles are saved.

Romans 1:16

ForIamnotashamedofthegospelofChrist: foritisthepowerofGod unto salvation to every one that believet

If we were to take out Apostle Paul's epistle out of the Bible, it would be very difficult to find Salvation today. Apostle Paul was a chosen vessel unto the Gentiles and Jews to spread his gospel inwhich Jesus Christ gave him through the revelation of the mystery.

Acts 22:3

Iamverily a man whichama Jew,bornin Tarsus, a cityin Cilicia, yet brought upin this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Apostle Paul is the least of the apostles, just like Jesus Christ said Elias is the least.

Matthew 11:14

And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

1 Corinthians 15:9

ForIamtheleast oftheapostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, becauseIpersecutedthechurchof God.

Even though Apostle Paul made others blasphemy, it was done ignorant back when he was a Pharisee.

1 Timothy 1:13

Who was before ablasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Jesus Christ gave Apostle Paul a office to preach to the Gentiles Salvation.

Romans 11:13

ForIspeak to youGentiles,inasmuch asIamtheapostleoftheGentiles,Imagnify mineoffice:

Jesus Christ gave himself to Apostle Paul and us too.

Galatians 2:20

IamcrucifiedwithChrist: neverthelessIlive; yet notI, butChristlivethin me: and the life whichInow livein the fleshIlive by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

There is power in the gospel of Christ Jesus inwhich the Jews and the Gentiles are saved.

Romans 1:16

ForIamnotashamedofthegospelofChrist: foritisthepowerofGod unto salvation to every one that believeth; totheJew first, and also totheGreek.

Here is Apostle Paul's gospel inwhich we are saved. Jesus Christ is the author of this verse.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached un

Hi, S. Spencer.

Jeremiah 31:3 is the verse I meant.

Thank you for sharing a bit of your viewpoint.

Indeed, God does love the world. He loves all of His creation. And I did say that He does bestow common grace and mercy upon all humanity. Otherwise, we all would be consumed and destroyed the first time we actively sin. God has compassion on sinful man in many ways. However, Romans 1:18 does teach that God's wrath is upon all wickedness in those who suppress the truth. basically sinners. If I were to go by what you seem to imply, God certainly cannot exercise His wrath or judgement on sinners because He loves the world (humans). This is not biblically sound and if it is biblically true, all people would be saved, but Scripture does not teach this.

I said in my writing that God's SAVING grace and mercy and love is given to the elect, but not to those He did not choose for salvation. If you are of the Arminian persuasion you would be aware that they teach about God's prevenient grace and also saving grace. I agree that God's grace comes to humans in different ways with differing effects as Arminius taught. But I am not Arminian in my thinking. I used to be for many decades, because that was all I really knew. But when I began to examine its teachings against Scripture, I moved away from that.

You said that I cannot attribute something that is for Israel for Christians. This is a tenet of dispensationalism, but is not from the Bible unless you can give me a Scripture that teaches so.

I know that you had some other questions for me. However, I do not wish to get into a back and forth, picking apart each others' viewpoints. I would much prefer that you do as I did-study these topics according to what Scripture says and then present your developed viewpoint on this forum so that others can read both viewpoints and go to Scriptures to see which one better explains what Scriptures do teach.

I appreciate that you are engaging with me. May the truth win out overall.

GOD'S MERCY

Pt. 6

To men who have refused to change in their attitude towards God, it will mean there will be no prospect or desire for change and repentance before him, and to those who have never loved Jesus Christ as Savior, it will mean they will go throughout all eternity never knowing what it means to know Christ's love nor to love Christ as Savior in grateful response, and therefore experiencing a loveless eternity.

In this life, God's mercy is "new every morning", but unregenerate humans are too blind and sin-numbed to experience it. But to those He elects to salvation, His mercy in redeeming them will last throughout eternity. Without God giving grace of regeneration and faith, no human would know God's redeeming mercy. But, He has brought that mercy to those He chose for salvation before the beginning of the world. Believers should be so thankful for having been chosen and drawn to Jesus through God's mercy and grace!

With God's grace and mercy being freely given, why will God still judge unregenerate sinners? How is His severe and eternal judgment appropriate to the sins committed against Him?

1. It is appropriate because it has been freely chosen. No human being has ever been, will ever be damned against their will. They choose it.

2. It is appropriate because what men and women know the righteous decrees of God about disobedience to Him and choose break His commands and even flaunt their disobedience before God. ( Romans 1:32)

3. It's appropriate because humans have consistently ignored God's providences.

4. It's appropriate because humans have despised the offer of Christ, who is able to save all those who come to God through Him.

5. It is appropriate because it is universally true of the natural man that he seeks a heaven devoid of God's throne and empty of God's presence.

See. Pt. 7

Today I am posting on the next topic to follow the previous subject.

GOD'S WRATH

Pt. 1

God's wrath is His deep hatred and judgment upon sin and sinners. It shows how offensive sin is to His nature. His wrath against sin and sinners shows that He will not let sin be passed over completely. He will deal with it His way and in executing His wrath and condemnation He is glorified. ( Romans 1:18; Colossians 3:6; John 3:36) It is his settled, unchanging response that evil and sin will not stand against His steady, unrelenting, uncompromising antagonism to evil and sin. It is in perfect harmony with all of His divine attributes, being His holy action of retributive justice towards persons whose freely chosen actions deserve eternal condemnation. He is righteous in exercising His wrath. He alone determines how it is exercised because He is sovereign over all.

The wrath of God is a deeply biblical truth. In our secular age, God's wrath is a foreign and unwanted truth. However, the wrath of God against sin and upon sinners is revealed in Scriptures consistently across both the old and new testaments. We live in a day where humans set themselves as the judge with God's character on trial concerning His exercise of His wrath. People say: "Since God is loving He cannot be wrathful" or "God is not just or fair when He exercises His wrath on sinners".

These judgment upon God's character among believers demonstrate, first of all, a lack of humility and reverence for God for all He is, and second, a misunderstanding that somehow sinners are not responsible for the sins they commit and therefore do not deserve God's wrath or that God has forced people to sin by causing their human nature to become sinful when Adam and Eve sinned. But these thoughts are not biblical and do not allow one to truly grasp and appreciate God's redemption of those He elected to show His favor, mercy, and grace to, even though they are sinners.

See Pt. 2

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for revisiting this discussion.

I would like to touch on something you said but may have not meant to.

Gigi, You stated "And we must admit that God is free to show FAVOR to whomever He pleases and to withhold it from whomever He pleases. .

I believe we can see a glimpse of Gods Judgment Justified by Righteousness in Genesis and throughout the Bible.

Here's one example.

Genesis 18:22-33 We see God works his Judgment off his Righteousness. He's faithful in doing that and we can expect that as did Abraham!

Verses 22-25.

"And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.

And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DO RIGHT?

There is a pre-condition has to be met here to escape. "One would have to be "RIGHTEOUS"

God didn't decide to say "Oh let me go make or elect to make Lot righteous before I destroy the place.

God is sovereign and can do as he pleases so Abraham reasoned with God understanding his nature as one who judge in Righteousness!

God answers Abraham off of that basis.

Verse 26) "And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes"

The free gift is Christ and it comes by faith! Paul says in Romans 1:16-17. "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

God's election is Not Initiated by favor.

Blessings

(1 Corinthians Part 3):

1 Corinthians 1:8 - Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Concerning Christ, who shall also confirm (Again, the word establish). He will establish you unto the end, because God is faithful! So not only are you established now in Christ, but this same Jesus is going to establish you all the way to the end. Paul is giving them a promise. He will establish you unto the end because God is faithful. He keeps his word.

Romans 1:21 - For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching. Literally, the Greek word isn't preaching. It's the preached message. It pleased God that through the foolishness of the gospel message to save them that believe. How can words on a page be used to save anybody? God's Spirit uses it. That's His designed plan!

1 Corinthians 1:24 - But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Notice the two things. Greeks seek wisdom, and the Jews seek a sign. Christ is the power, and Christ is the wisdom to everybody who believes!

1 Corinthians 1:26 - For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

The word noble means wellborn, born into nobility. I can't recall where I read this, but Queen Elizabeth, several years ago when she visited Canada, she was asked if she's a Christian. She said yes. And she said this was her favorite verse, 1 Corinthians 1:26. She says my favorite letter in the alphabet is the letter "M." She says not many noble. She said if the "M" wasn't there, it would be not any noble. So, she says not many. She said I was born into nobility and I believe!

(Romans Part 7):

Romans 1:31 - Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Without understanding. The Greek word means spiritual understanding. They have no spiritual understanding anymore.

Romans 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Not only do they do the same things while they know judgment is coming, as far as death, but they have pleasure in them that do them. The word pleasure in the Greek means to applaud. They cheer on the other people who are doing the same thing!

Romans 2:2 - But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

There are four principles given in Chapter 2 Verses 2 through 16 that start with the word KATA in the Greek. KATA is a preposition, and it means according to. God judges according to the truth. We see in Romans 2:11 that God is no respecter of persons. He doesn't look at somebody and say "Oh, you're Jewishno problem! Oh, you're a Gentileget out of here!" God judges according to the facts with every single person no matter who they are.

Romans 2:5 - But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

But after the hardness and your impenitent heart, and the word hardness is where we get our word callousness from. You know how when you go out and work in the yard, and you haven't done it in a long time, you get blisters. But after you been out there a while, you build up callouses because it continues to rub one time after another and after another until it builds up a resistance to it.

Some people are like that spiritually. God's Spirit continues to minister to them, and they keep rejecting it and they keep suppressing the truth to where their heart becomes calloused against the Lord.

The book of Romans (Constitution of the Christian faith)

(Romans Part 6):

Romans 1:24 - Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

It says that God gave them up. Literally, God gave them over. Again, that is a judicial term that means to hand down a sentence to somebody. It is their punishment and their sentence. God gave them over, and watch this: To uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: God gave them over. It's judgment! "You want to worship man? I'll give you some people to worship!"

Romans 1:28 - And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, and you see, He's already there, but they don't want Him to be there! God gave them over. There it is a third time. That's to impress us with the fact that God's wrath is being revealed from heaven right now.

God gave them over to a reprobate mind. I love some of these words in the King James. The word reprobate means to reject. God gave them a mind to reject the truth. Why? Because they rejected the truth on their own. He gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; which in our language means not right!

Romans 1:29 - Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

This word "whisperers" is basically a person who gossips, but secretly behind person's backs.

Romans 1:30 - Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Inventors of evil things in the Greek basically means "Find a new way to do the old sin."

Thanks brother Jesse for your further clarification. I guess 1 Timothy 4:14 was at the back of my mind when I read Romans 1:11; i.e. as Timothy received 'the gift' by the laying of hands upon him, so Paul was planning to do likewise to those believers in Rome. Yet, it seems more reasonable to believe that Paul wanted them to grow in Christ, maturing both in faith (as you mentioned: of being fully persuaded in their mind & spirit) & of course, their usefulness in the Church & living victoriously in a pagan society. Off in a few days & thanks for your prayers. May the Lord enable you in your studies in Romans & sharing the Word with us.

Hello brother Chris,

You are very welcome and thank you for following along in these studies. I've always been impressed with your knowledge and understanding of scripture so anytime I share something you find to be an "eye-opener," it means a lot to me. For a long time, I was unsure of the meaning of Romans 1:11. I used to think Paul was going there to present or give them some kind of gift. The following verses in the chapter didn't clear anything up for me. I have since come to learn that this word "gift" used here didn't have anything to do with something that was given to someone.

I think there's a lot of confusion today in the body of Christ about all the so-called "gifts of the Spirit." According to scripture, the only gift we are given is the gift of the Holy Spirit. We find this in Acts 2:38 where that Greek word for gift actually means a gift that is given to someone. Other places where we see the word gift, it is the word CHARISMA, and that is not a gift given but an expression of grace. We are given the gift of the Holy Spirit, and it is the Holy Spirit that has the ability and capacity to do all the things we call "gifts of the Spirit."

You touched a little on ministry and I agree with what you are saying. In fact, I understand this whole section of scripture ( Romans 1:8-15) as Paul's plan for ministry. I believe it was Paul's desire for them to see how God was working in his life, his faith (Persuasion) and that they might also share in the same persuasion, but not for Paul to boast of anything.

I hope you have a great time on your vacation and if you're traveling, I pray for safe travels. God bless!!!

Thanks brother Jesse for taking on this task with this wonderful meaty letter of Paul to the Romans. I'm sure that this too will be to us very profitable. Just to your Romans 1:11: your explanation here was an eye-opener for me. I've always taken this verse to mean that Paul, as he fellowshiped with the saints there, would by the Holy Spirit impart (or, administer) a lacking spiritual gift (grace) to the church there, for their establishment & maturing. However, the way I understand what you've shared, it seems that Paul would exercise the gifts (graces) with them that he had been blessed with for his life & ministry, so that believers might be strengthened and matured as they sat under such a Spirit-empowered ministry. I trust that I've understood it correctly, as this does make better sense for the reason of his going there.

I will continue to follow your work in this Book Jesse as often as I can, though I will be on vacation for nearly a month, & will not always have acces to spare time or the internet. But I will definitely make it a point to keep up with yours & other's postings here. Blessings to you & all others.

(Romans Part 5):

Romans 1:14 - I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.

The word barbarian is a reference to anybody that cannot speak Greek because to the Greeks, any language other than Greek, you were saying "Bar-Bar." You were saying a bunch of nothing, something that a newborn might begin to say when they start talking, "Bar-Bar!"

But they named anybody that was not experienced in Greek culture and Greek language a barbarian. Paul says, I am a debtor. I am in debt. Those in ministry are in debt to God's people. They have a commission by God to fulfil. Paul says that I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise, or unperceptive!

Romans 1:20 - For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Please notice the conclusion. It says, "so that they are without excuse:" The word excuse APOLOGEA, is we get our word apologetics from it. It is a legal term that means defense. People have no defense whatsoever. Not one human being is ever going to be able to stand before God and say, "I didn't know!"

Romans 1:22 - Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

So, they said "I'm intelligent. Don't tell me there's a God. I got a brain." And they became fools! The word fools in the Greek is where we get our English word moron from. They became fools (Morons)!

(Romans Part 4):

Romans 1:11 - For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

Now this is the only place in scripture where the bible literally says spiritual gift. All the other places, you'll notice that it will say gift, but the word spiritual will be italicized. This is the only place where it is found. And the term gift, he's emphasizing spiritual.

The word gift in the Greek text does not mean a gift that is given to somebody. The word gift is the word CHARISMA. Sound familiar? Charismatic comes from this, except this Greek word means expression of grace. That's all it means! CHARIS is the word for grace. CHARISMA is the word for expression of grace.

He says, I want to come so that there would be some spiritual expression of God's grace to you from me.

Romans 1:12 - That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.

The word faith, PISTIS, means persuasion in Greek. And it is a word that describes the Holy Spirit's persuasion over us when He ministers to us, and His persuasion through us when He ministers through us. And the early church says, and like Paul said, your faith is known throughout the world. He wasn't talking about their human practice of faith. He was talking about God's Spirit through you is being spoken of throughout the whole world.

The bible never says that faith is of man. It always tells us, and we are going to learn this in the book of Romans, that faith is a gift from God. It is not something that man produces; it's something that man is given.

It is a word that describes the presence and activity of God's Spirit in a believer's life. It is the presence and the activity. In the book of Acts, they used to call the Christians those people "Of the faith." They are of a certain persuasion that you can't see. They call Him Jesus Christ, but you can never see Him! That's why we are of the faith, of the persuasion of God.

(Romans Part 3):

Romans 1:5 - By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

By whom, or through whom, and this would be Jesus, we have received. We receive from God that which we need as He fulfils His purpose in us.

Next, the compliance: It says, "For obedience to the faith." I don't know if you caught it but listen to this. We get it all the way through Romans, and it may change your whole view in understanding about what faith is. It won't be religious faith. It will be Spiritual faith. God gives us the grace for obedience to the faith. We have no ability or capacity to obey the faith of Christ!

And then we have the circumstances: For Paul, it's among all nations. The word nations is the word Gentiles. And lastly, the cause for this is for His name. Literally, upon the basis of His name. If I represent Christ, He's going to give me the grace to do what He wants me to do because it represents Him. He made the promise to me.

I go out and I share the gospel of Jesus Christ. Those aren't empty religious words. I go knowing and believing by faith that God promised. To all of those who will believe, He will give them His Spirit. They will be saved. That's a promise!

Romans 1:7 - To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The word beloved means the object of love. We are the object of God's love. We are beloved of God. God's love is always directed in our direction and is always in ministry and care over us. Not only are we the beloved of God, but we're called saints. Notice again the words "to be" are not in the Greek text. We are saints by calling.

A saint doesn't mean holy in the sense of pure. That's a totally different Greek word. This word holy or saint means to be set apart. When the Spirit of Christ came into my spirit, came into my heart, He set me apart for Christ and for the Lord's purposes.

(Romans Part 2):

Romans 1:4 - And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

And declared to be the Son of God with power. I've shared this before and I know not everyone agrees, but I will share this again. The Greek text takes the term "Son of God" and it's just a title. Declared to be Son of God.

Without getting into too much detail, in the Greek the word Son doesn't mean somebody that has been born. There are different words in Greek that's translated son. Son is actually a legal position, an inheritor of all of his father's things. It is called a HUIOS, a son. Jesus Christ is presented as the inheritor of all things of the Father in heaven. He is the rightful owner. He purchased us. He purchased the earth. Everybody will answer to Him.

But please notice the categories for His deity. It says with power, literally in power. All three of these things describe the same act. In power, according to the spirit of holiness, and by (or out of) the resurrection from the dead:

God in heaven gave approval as to who Jesus Christ is when He raised Jesus from the dead. That was the finishing point. He died for our sins on the cross, but had He not been raised from the dead, that sacrifice would have meant nothing. It's God's approval to raise Him from the dead.

This makes Jesus Christ all human and all God, all at the same time when He came, 100% human and 100% God.

Biblical Greek Perspectives:

The book of Romans (Constitution of the Christian faith)

(Romans Part 1):

Romans 1:1 - Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

The word servant is actually the word slave. And without getting into detail about the DULOS (the slave), when one serves Christ and is a slave or servant, it is not an 8 to 5 job. It is 24 hours a day, totally the servant and slave of Christ. Paul is not the servant of people. He's the servant of Jesus Christ. Therefore, he represents Christ in service to Christ.

Something else I would like to share; our English text says that Paul is called to be an apostle. The words "to be" are added to the text. If you notice in your bible, the words "to be" are in italics. It literally reads a called apostle, not called to be an apostle, but a called apostle. It tells us what kind of apostle he is. He's called by God. He's not appointed by man. It's not even his own choosing or ambition. But he's an apostle of Jesus Christ by calling.

Also, about his consecration. Paul was separated unto the gospel of God. God separated him for a purpose just like He does all believers. Not all believers are separated and set apart to be an apostle, but every believer is somebody who has responded to the calling. It is not something that we decided to do. We responded to His call.

We also have been separated. Every believer has a function in the body of Christ. We're not just saved by Jesus in order to go to heaven and have our sins forgiven, but we actually have a function.

BIBLE VERSES

Gen. 2-3 Gives the account of God creating Adam and Eve, the garden, tree of life and tree of knowledge of good and evil. It says that when God created Adam and Eve He said they were very good (not perfect, not redeemed, nor incapable of sinning).

Gen. 3:7-10 tells us that after Adam and Eve sinned, they hid from God when they heard speaking while walking in the Garden. They felt ashamed and were afraid of God and tried to hide their nakedness with fig leaves.

Gen. 3:21 tells of how God killed an animal and used the skin to make coverings for Adam and Eve.

Gen. 3:15 is God's gospel promise of a Savior to Adam and Eve.

In this chapter of Genesis, God did not kill Adam and Eve physically as soon as they sinned. He was gracious to them and gave them both long lives and may children to populate the earth. But they died spiritually and also, the dying process began in their bodies.

FALLEN MAN

Gen. 6:3 says that man is continually evil and all of his thoughts and actions are wicked.

Romans 1:18-21, 25, 28 says that mankind freely chooses to substitute idols for the true God. And that man has exchanged to truth of God for a lie. That they did not choose to retain God in their knowledge so God gave them over to a reprobate mind. And vs 29-32 list the ways mankind freely gives themselves over to sinful living with pleasure in doing so.

Romans 3:9-19 , says that both Jew and Gentile are all under sin. That there are none righteous, there are none that understand or seek after God, none that do good and do not fear God and that all of humanity is guilty before God

Romans 3:23 says that all humans have sin and fall short of God's glory (His perfection and expectations for man to live an obedient life of service and worship of God without exception).

Romans 6:2 says that we are dead in sin

Romans 6:23 says that death comes as a wage for our sinfulness.

Hey Jesse,

I hope you don't mind brother.

Your posts are helpful, I understand how long it would be on this site with 2000 characters to go verse by verse, but what you do should inspire us to study all the verses around what you post. The conscience: I understand what you are saying but I understand it a little differently. I understand our conscience which is sometimes called our heart, Proverbs 4:23, is a gift God gave us to help us overcome the curse that we received when Adam and Eve ate that fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.

The law and sacrifices could not cleanse our conscience, and we have been told to guard our conscience. When we repent and are born again our conscience is cleaned Hebrews 9:13-14, Hebrews 10:22 and when we slip, we are given confidence if we repent it is cleaned by the blood of Christ, 1 John 1:9. Our conscience and our mind are separate, Titus 1:15.

Our subconscious mind learns from experiences without us being aware of it. It processes information and makes connections effortlessly. We operate 80 to 90 percent with this part of our mind. This kind of learning affects our actions and choices without us consciously realizing it. My thoughts, this is the part of us that is attracted by the world, the part of our flesh that is tempted.

Our conscience can be weak and defiled 1 Corinthians 8:7 and seared like in 1 Timothy 4:1-2 and our minds can become so corrupt 2 Timothy 3:8, that God can turn us over to a reprobate mind Romans 1:28. I feel people can get to a point where their conscience is dead, and they live on the instinct of their subconscious mind for just survival in this earthly world. But there is always hope, I have seen where people have been restored and their conscience cleansed and made alive again, Jesus's blood can wash away all sins.

This is just me, but I believe our conscience is the spirit of man, Zechariah 12:1 1 Corinthians 2:11.

Keep up the good work and God bless,

RLW

Hey Jesse,

You did not come across as saying a Jew had to stop being a Jew or a Gentile had to become a Jew. I guess I was not clear on this, At Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was sent as promised it was only the Jews who first received it and the beginning of the Church was all Jewish. To the Jew first, and also to the Greek, Romans 1:16. Being Jewish after they accepted Jesus as the promised Messiah and received the Holy Spirit, they continued in Jewish ways keeping the feasts and the Sabbaths and worship at the temple, even Paul after Jesus called him.

After Jesus called Paul to be the apostle to the Gentiles there were contentions as we see in Galatians 2 between Peter, James, and Paul and it continued. Maybe I am looking too deep but I do not hear this discussed, is this part of making the Jews jealous, Romans 11:11. I feel some things are overlooked that could help when talking to a Jewish person about Jesus.

I hope this makes sense.

God bless,

RLW