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Larry B Jesus was, is and always shall be God, who came in the flesh to redeem mankind from sin and death.

1 Timothy 3:16

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." King James Version (KJV)

God never changes. Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Jesus never changes. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

God is the only Saviour. "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11

To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12

God our Saviour. Titus 2:10

...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10

God my Saviour. Luke 1:47

Jesus is the only Saviour. ...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14

...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18

...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1

...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42

...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4

a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11

Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

-- Acts 4:12

...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

-- 2 Timothy 2:10

Chris, I like these conversations because they make us think and search the Scriptures. Thanks for your comments. Your perspective is what the modern church has taught for the last few Centuries.

You say, "we were created [to] enjoy a perfect relationship with the Godhead & enjoying a perfect world to live in." And of course, that is what we are taught. That is our doctrine. But there is a greater truth we miss.

First of all, All things were created FOR Christ Col 1:16. What does that little tiny word mean? Did God create us for Us or FOR Christ? What does it mean that we were created for God's Pleasure? Is it so Christ could have someone to play with? Is it so Christ could have someone to help him with creation? Is it for the enjoyment of Christ? I bought a car for my son. I did that so he could go to school, work and out with his friends. Is that what FOR means here? What the Bible tells us is that all things were created FOR Christ to enter creation to accomplish God's Plan. In Heb 10:5 and Ps 40, we are told we were created so Christ could have a body in the image of God. In Titus 1:2, Paul says God's Plan from before creation, from before time even began, was a Plan of Redemption in Christ. All things are done FOR Christ to overcome corruption, evil, death, pain, suffering.

Secondly, Christ didn't enter the world in response to what Adam and Eve did. In the OT we read over and over, "I raised him up for my Purpose." Daniel says things to come are written in the Book of Truth. Revelation calls it the Book of Life. In Isaiah 44-48 God says He knows what is going to happen because He creates it then and there. The idea that God knows the future out of intuition, perception, vision or all-knowingness, because He is not restricted by time/space, is not Biblical. The Future does not exist. The Future is created by God, for His Purpose.

Thirdly, we are not the object of creation. Christ is. If we were, God failed. Think about that. See Dan 9:24, Rom 8.

Greetings Shannon, by no means do I believe in what I am telling you concerning a "Lilith" in Judaism.

The word Lilith appears 1 time in the King James in Isaiah 34:14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest. (the king James translators used screech owl for Lilith)

In the Jewish encyclopedia: Lilith was the first "wife" of Adam prior to Eve, she left him cause she did not want him to be "on top" and she went to become the wife of samael. Where do they come up with this stuff? Only in the minds of certain Rabbis as it is NOT in the Bible. This is why Paul wrote in Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Wiccans (witches) revere Lilith as the queen of demons and even have festivals in her "honor"

I am not sure where you came across this name from, but I would stay away from it as it is steeped in the occult.

I came out of the new age and went to Bible college and did studies on the occult. This stuff is evil.

Shalom Bob,

Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.

Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.

Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.

Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.

You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.

No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.

Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.

You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.

Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!

Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.

Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.

Shalom Bob,

Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.

Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.

Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.

Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.

You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.

No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.

Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.

You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.

Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!

Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.

Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.

So since the letter J is a recent thing and that the name Jesus could not exist. I suppose NO J in Jesus means that

JJJJ Jews do not exist either?

these Yeshua group are basically DENYING the King James Bible.

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

The angel Gabriel told Mary to name him Jesus, not Yeshu which is a curse Jews say may his name be blotted out from under heaven.

Luke 1: 26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

So do we believe the Bible or Jewish fables that the New Testament Bible was originally Hebrew and mistranslated by those pagan anti-Semitic Greeks?

Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

The word of god brings power in our life: acts 1:8

the word of god brings peace in our life: hews 12:14

the word of god brings prayer in our life:

the word of god brings purpose in our life

the word of god brings praise in our life

the word of god brings strength in our life

the word of god removes sorrow in our life

John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

1 Timothy 6:18-19 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

2 Timothy 3:17

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Jesse Greetings, Yes Rabbi's rules Jesus called them the commandments of men aka tradition of the elders and condemned them for it. Good point. Christ blasted them for this. Like the Noahide laws today.

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Lilith, as a person, is a figment of the imagination of some Rabbis. Look into the jewish encyclopedia if you really want to know.
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
in the KJV the word "SCREECH OWL" comes from the word Lilith. but the interpretation is used different in occult circles.
Isaiah 34:14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.
Some rabbis claim Lilith was the first wife of Adam, prior to Eve. Other Rabbis claim she is a demoness who sucks life out of children.

Indeed Christianity has been under attack. Very strangely, the same ideology that attacks Christians seems ok with other religions. What is bad is good for them, and good is now bad. This mentality is mentioned in Titus 1:16, Romans 1:28.

I agree that those in church leadership should have higher standards. The Bible gives such examples of standards for those qualified to become elders of church. 1 Tim. 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Peter 5:1-4.

God is the word and his word is true, as you read the Bible you see and know his word, you cannot pollute it to your own meaning but as what he has spoken, he promised to save us from satin , as adam and eve followed a false teacher, he gave us his son to die on that tree so we may be redeemed again in the glory of God, there is know greater love then his Amen

I am proud to read this chapter because I made a chart based on numbers 23:19.
I read this everyday and whenever I look at the chart. God is not a man , that He
should lie, neither the Son of Man that He should repent: hath He said , and shall
He not do it? Or hath He spoken and shall He not make it good? This "blesses" my
heart to know that my source is God and not man.

Shirley!!! What ever God think becomes the truth. This is why he can not lie. He is the word and the word is God!!!

God cannot lie! To lie and to bare false testimony is from the Evil one. God is Truth God is the Light God is Holy. He is the Holy of Holy. Their is no Sin in God, Their is no Darkness only Light which Smothers Darkness. God is Light God is Truth God is all that's Good.

Robert; God cannot lie as He cannot sin because there is no unrighteousness in Him. His Divine Nature has no part dark or anything in His character that can be tempted with evil. Lying and perversion came out of the father of lies who has never stood in the truth. Thus it is that the Lord Jesus said, All they who are of the truth will hear my voice. And so then by our faith He counts us righteous.

Vs 2 THE STATEMENT IS THAT GOD CANNOT LIE,DOES THAT MEAN THAT HE IS INCAPABLE OF LIEING REFUSES TO LIE OR IS RESTRICTED FROM LYING. WOULD THE WORD"CANNOT" BE BETTER TRANSLATED "DOES NOT"? THIS QUESTION WAS PRESENTED TO ME WITH THE ADDENDUM "GOD IS ALL POWERFUL AND CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS SO WHY CAN'T HE LIE". IT WAS AN HONEST QUESTION NOT A CHALENGE

"and ordain elders in every city" vs5. And, "For a bishop must be blameless," vs7. Both elder and bishop are one and the same. The only other leading office in the local church was the deacon. Elders (overseers, bishops, presbyters) were to take the lead in the spiritual life of the church. The deacons oversaw ministry to the poor, the widows, and so on. More on the work of the ministry in 2 weeks

YES, servant! as it is written; "Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?" John 10:32; and "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:10. Also: Matthew 5:16; 1 Timothy 5:10,25; 6:18; Titus 1:16; 3:8,14; Hebrews 10:24; 2 Timothy 3:17; James 3:13; etc.

What a good reminder! We need to be clean in all our actions! This is good to help our children. When I was in school, I could be talking about something completely harmless and there would always be an associate to turn it into something gross,rude, or sexual. This scripture can help our children not to pick up this habit, and show that we need to keep clean in everything we do.

"Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate (worthless)." Jesus wants us to let our light shine so men see His grace in real life: a character and behavior like God!

Verse 16: This shows that our words must be back up by actions.

Titus 1 vs 10;For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: How true is this verse in reference to churches of this age. Many have left the preaching of the gospel/Christ to motivational speeches, business talks, and self elevation messages today in our various pulpits thereby relegating Christ to the back ground. May God deliver us from such.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Dear Dan; Titus 1:14 "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." I most certainly answered you very well; but you don't like the answer! Why don't you then stay with a crowd you're more comfortable with; like Cain and the Pharisees? But be advised; God scorns the scorner, but gives grace to the lowly, and makes wise the simple.

TITUS 1:14 "NOT GIVING HEED TO JEWISH FABLES AND COMMANDMENTS OF MEN THAT TURN FROM THE TRUTH" Matthew 21:38 "But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance." The Jews absolutely and without apology reject the Lord Jesus Christ, and have entirely set up themselves as the authorities instead of Jesus.

Titus 1:3 3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour. Apostle Paul was given the Words to preach from God the Son. Nobody knew what Jesus was telling Paul, when Paul reveal it in writing, the Jews were shocked in unbelief.

Amen

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. We will know them by there fruits.