Bible Discussion Thread

Concerning election.

Calvary gives not a single 'dot' of glory to any man . ALL the glory belongs to God . For we are not saved by our own work but are saved by that Great Work of Calvary .

Calvary is the great divide .and when God saud " I will pour out upin ALL flesh my Holy Spirit is not God the " God of all flesh" ?

And can any seed at all not give increase without Him? The pouring out of His Spirit upin all flesh does not mean as in the day of Pentecost alone etc but also as the rain falls even the weeds and tares rejoice . The rain causing each seed to manifest itself as to what sort it is .

The drawing of ALL men to Christ reveals what they are and if what seed .

I'm saying all this because there seems to be some glorying not in Christ but in our election!

But what says the scripture ? " Make your election sure"! We cannot boast or glory over anyone because though we quote scripture concerning the election we seem to have forgotten " say not who will go down because that brings Christ up and say not who will go up for that will bring Chris down but what says the scriptures"

Jesus said " I condemn no one but on that day my words will condemn you "

We are not to judge before the time and much of the 'conversation' about the elect is often I think a great hinderance to the preaching and the liberty of the gospel . For it lifts man up in his own estimation or perception of election rather than let God do the raising .for is it not written Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God and in due time He will exalt you "

And if some still continue let us remember that there are those " counted righteous" and there are those who are . For Lot was counted righteous but walked by sight nd suffered loss as through fire while Abraham walked by faith and was ready .

There is the elect and the " very elect" . So if by the grace of God you boast in your election . "Make your election sure "

"For if it was possible even the very elect would be deceived ".