Hello "The Bible Alone" and thanks for sharing that and since you addressed it to both "Mr Spencer and others", I would like to comment if I may.
You gave Romans 3:9-18 (taken from Psalm 14:1-4) to show that both Jew and Gentile are under sin, that no one can escape this awful reality & bondage.
You also quoted Romans 9:14-16,22, presumably to support the belief that it is God Who shows mercy on those whom He elects to be His people. When we read Romans chapter 9, we see Paul agonizing over his kinsmen. They were indeed blessed, having received the Law, the adoption, the Covenants, & the Promises, yet still fell far short before their God. Through Isaac & his seed would the Promise be established and not through Ishmael (son of the flesh).
Again, God selects (or, elects) Jacob over Esau, that the "elder shall serve the younger", which seems totally incompatible to the law of inheritance & rights, and seemingly unrighteous of God to make such an appointment. Paul then goes on to give the example of Moses ( Exodus 33:13-19), where God says in v19, "and (I) will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy."
I share this to show that this passage has nothing to do with salvation from sin, but of election of Israel through Abraham, Isaac & Jacob (to the exclusion of all others). And with Moses, a special granting of Mercy to have a limited sight of God's Glory. So the LORD could say to him that He would be gracious and merciful to Moses to reveal His Glory, as He could do to some and not to others. Onto Page 2.
And we could also include Romans 9:17,18, concerning Pharaoh. As Moses was shown mercy by God for the revelation of Himself, so God had also raised up Pharaoh, hardening his heart against the children of Israel so as to declare to all God's Power. Again, we cannot use any of these examples to demonstrate that certain individuals are elected to salvation based on God's indiscriminate choosing, but these examples show that God alone, for His Own reasons, selected Israel to be His Elect, for Moses to see God's Glory, and for Pharaoh to be used of God to demonstrate that He alone was God and that none else, even the god-like Pharaoh, could ever be compared to Him.
May I give you a three verses, asking for your understanding? John 3:16, 1 Timothy 2:4 and 2 Peter 3:9. About whom are Jesus, Paul and Peter speaking in these verses? GBU.
I ask that the Lord gives you the guidance and understanding to make your calling and election sure and then to test yourself to see if you are in the faith. May He guide you; I pray to others mature in the faith whose example can be a testimony to His life in them so you can be discipled properly to also reflect His glory.
This transformation is the new life for one who is truly saved or Born again. Confession is needed as the Lord brings conviction to your heart as well as opens up your soul to the Word. Men are used as agents in order to proclaim and send forth the message but it must become active and living in your own soul so that the inner man can be transformed; renewed and then go on through sanctification to prepare for Glory.
I feel it is my duty as I would with anyone seeking this to say that the enemy no doubt will put up roadblocks. Your life will in one sense be one of total peace; love and joy with such things as the Lord said not coming from this world. We should realize that trials and persecutions of one form or another are ahead and we must trust God to whittle away old friendships or current ones as well as our old habits and lifestyles that are contrary to His purposes. This varies for some who may need a total change in location; job; etc. but that comes after prayer and discernment. In whatever circumstance we are in we should seek to serve the Lord unless He clearly calls us elsewhere or we are forced to compromise by requirements at work; or others in our immediate circle.
Anyway; I hope I can be of assistance at least in prayer in this capacity; sadly today there are few who put much effort into discipleship and since this site can't do hands on in person help I pray God brings those to guide you along.
It is at last as much as Him accepting US into the beloved as it is our reaction. We have to come as we are and as they say leave our old self at the altar. May He make clear open doors in this venture.
Amen brother,
God bless,
RLW.
You gave Romans 3:9-18 (taken from Psalm 14:1-4) to show that both Jew and Gentile are under sin, that no one can escape this awful reality & bondage.
You also quoted Romans 9:14-16,22, presumably to support the belief that it is God Who shows mercy on those whom He elects to be His people. When we read Romans chapter 9, we see Paul agonizing over his kinsmen. They were indeed blessed, having received the Law, the adoption, the Covenants, & the Promises, yet still fell far short before their God. Through Isaac & his seed would the Promise be established and not through Ishmael (son of the flesh).
Again, God selects (or, elects) Jacob over Esau, that the "elder shall serve the younger", which seems totally incompatible to the law of inheritance & rights, and seemingly unrighteous of God to make such an appointment. Paul then goes on to give the example of Moses ( Exodus 33:13-19), where God says in v19, "and (I) will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy."
I share this to show that this passage has nothing to do with salvation from sin, but of election of Israel through Abraham, Isaac & Jacob (to the exclusion of all others). And with Moses, a special granting of Mercy to have a limited sight of God's Glory. So the LORD could say to him that He would be gracious and merciful to Moses to reveal His Glory, as He could do to some and not to others. Onto Page 2.
And we could also include Romans 9:17,18, concerning Pharaoh. As Moses was shown mercy by God for the revelation of Himself, so God had also raised up Pharaoh, hardening his heart against the children of Israel so as to declare to all God's Power. Again, we cannot use any of these examples to demonstrate that certain individuals are elected to salvation based on God's indiscriminate choosing, but these examples show that God alone, for His Own reasons, selected Israel to be His Elect, for Moses to see God's Glory, and for Pharaoh to be used of God to demonstrate that He alone was God and that none else, even the god-like Pharaoh, could ever be compared to Him.
May I give you a three verses, asking for your understanding? John 3:16, 1 Timothy 2:4 and 2 Peter 3:9. About whom are Jesus, Paul and Peter speaking in these verses? GBU.
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when there is slurring and lulling in explanations, there is something wrong.
This transformation is the new life for one who is truly saved or Born again. Confession is needed as the Lord brings conviction to your heart as well as opens up your soul to the Word. Men are used as agents in order to proclaim and send forth the message but it must become active and living in your own soul so that the inner man can be transformed; renewed and then go on through sanctification to prepare for Glory.
I feel it is my duty as I would with anyone seeking this to say that the enemy no doubt will put up roadblocks. Your life will in one sense be one of total peace; love and joy with such things as the Lord said not coming from this world. We should realize that trials and persecutions of one form or another are ahead and we must trust God to whittle away old friendships or current ones as well as our old habits and lifestyles that are contrary to His purposes. This varies for some who may need a total change in location; job; etc. but that comes after prayer and discernment. In whatever circumstance we are in we should seek to serve the Lord unless He clearly calls us elsewhere or we are forced to compromise by requirements at work; or others in our immediate circle.
Anyway; I hope I can be of assistance at least in prayer in this capacity; sadly today there are few who put much effort into discipleship and since this site can't do hands on in person help I pray God brings those to guide you along.
It is at last as much as Him accepting US into the beloved as it is our reaction. We have to come as we are and as they say leave our old self at the altar. May He make clear open doors in this venture.
Agape. RP
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