As stated in my response to Gigi (as usual ran out of room); I was talking about a church that was immature but still was a true church. Ignorance seemed to be the chief issue rather than not being God's children. This showed there was nothing wrong with true spiritual gifts but as Paul stated the most important thing was love and spiritual fruit in one's growth in the Lord.
Interaction in the church with gifts today is quite rare it seems; with people blabbing out in multitudes tongues with no interpreter; not discerning what spirit is controlling them; and with lack of wisdom as well whether in worldly or spiritual matters (as the spiritual should guide our worldly actions as we see in Proverbs) people are running amuck with their finances and hearts often far from where they should be. In general what happens is those who have genuine giftings are cast aside from the myriad and excessive number of teachers or self professed individuals who are pastors; so that those who are elders or deacons either are pushed aside as being less relevant or not able to utilize the God given authority for discipleship. That is especially true with warning a Pastor if error creeps in which thankfully many Reformed churches do accurately (although I don't agree with some ordinances but nonetheless I use it as an example here).
Of course the most obvious problems with the result in that situation is that someone who has true insight is often ignored when it comes to winning a popularity contest or majority concensus. In theory a church should basically be united but it is too easy to overemphasize those with worldly titles (especially when it comes to financial affairs) that skew towards a worldly dichotomy rather than sound fiscal wisdom that truly seeks wisdom from laypersons. Some of the time laypersons are at fault for not sounding the alarm or being more involved; tacitly accepting whatever is proposed or not attending these forums.
As stated in my response to Gigi (as usual ran out of room); I was talking about a church that was immature but still was a true church. Ignorance seemed to be the chief issue rather than not being God's children. This showed there was nothing wrong with true spiritual gifts but as Paul stated the most important thing was love and spiritual fruit in one's growth in the Lord.
Interaction in the church with gifts today is quite rare it seems; with people blabbing out in multitudes tongues with no interpreter; not discerning what spirit is controlling them; and with lack of wisdom as well whether in worldly or spiritual matters (as the spiritual should guide our worldly actions as we see in Proverbs) people are running amuck with their finances and hearts often far from where they should be. In general what happens is those who have genuine giftings are cast aside from the myriad and excessive number of teachers or self professed individuals who are pastors; so that those who are elders or deacons either are pushed aside as being less relevant or not able to utilize the God given authority for discipleship. That is especially true with warning a Pastor if error creeps in which thankfully many Reformed churches do accurately (although I don't agree with some ordinances but nonetheless I use it as an example here).
Of course the most obvious problems with the result in that situation is that someone who has true insight is often ignored when it comes to winning a popularity contest or majority concensus. In theory a church should basically be united but it is too easy to overemphasize those with worldly titles (especially when it comes to financial affairs) that skew towards a worldly dichotomy rather than sound fiscal wisdom that truly seeks wisdom from laypersons. Some of the time laypersons are at fault for not sounding the alarm or being more involved; tacitly accepting whatever is proposed or not attending these forums.
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