Bible Discussion Thread

I won't present one of the hot topics in regard to the recent events as to certain people being martyrs in the technical sense of the word. There are some who indeed seem to be trying to focus right now on spreading the Gospel that are still aligned with certain political organizations and affiliations; and others who have been doing that for a while that are "saddling up" to these groups. I personally wouldn't want to deal with what surely will be fierce resistance from those that have other motives as their primary concern. This statement; again deals with any ministry which is not affiliated with any political cause where the Pastor in particular has millions or tens of millions and at times HUNDREDS of millions of dollars of assets (not even considering one particular individual with say 40 or 50 rolexes; multiple airplanes; etc). The grey areas of those considered trustworthy adherents to the Word of God still are in positions where they can easily be too comfortable or covetous of material wealth or security as well as the legality of all transactions when loopholes of nebulous moral implications may be easy to involve oneself in.

Persecution: What about the suffering saints?

It is surely underrated in many churches from my experience a sense of urgency in corporate prayer for the suffering beievers around the world; and with those who are into certain popular movements today that are of an ecumenical persuasion; it seems seldom to never is that a topic of consideration. If the leaders live like kings; we then have an opposite situation from the Apostle Paul who was forced to sarcastically refer to the Corinthians as such while giving a laundry list of sufferings and sacrifices he had made for the churches at large. Oh such an example if it were found today! Then we may see leadership empathetic to sufferings of other truly great men of God whatever title they choose to invoke as to the role they have in church leadership; insipiring others.