Galatians Chapter 4 Discussion Page 3

Gal 4 is the new covenant which is christ in you via that good seed, the word the very essence of the new covenant. we are gonna birth christ in our hearts which is the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE,thats y the new birth is so important, being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc CHRIST is gonna be formed in us via that good seed, them that are BORN of God CANNOT Sin,THUS THE LAW IS FULFILLED

Thank God for the new creature in Christ that never sins inside us that are born again child of God. Now the flesh will always sin because of its nature. If we feed the new creature by reading the Word of God, it will cleanse us. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. feed the new creature of God and be cleanse of sins.

To be free from the condemnation of the Law is not an "opt out," or as if we can say a password and get let into the Club while the rest have to pay. If there is no real deliverance from the power of darkness, and of sin's dominion over us; then there can be no release from the condemnation of the Law. Jesus did a complete and perfect work on the cross, to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins!

:21-31 reveal the allegory of Abraham, being God the Father, Hagar being the Ten Commandments in stone, Sarah being the Ten Commandments in the heart, Ishmael being God's first born son Israel and Isaac being God's second born son Christianity, this allegory is repeated in Romans 9 when using the same typologies for the law of God in stone is bondage but in the heart it is libtery.

Just to add to what Scott said, being free from the Law also means not under its condemnation, and that can only happen when Christ is living in us, only Christ can bring freedom from the condemnation of the law.


















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Paul's writings are hard to understand if you do not understand the "law" and what the "curse" of the law is. Being under the curse was when you broke the law or did not keep it. keeping the law was not a curse to you and the law in itself was not a curse to anyone. Paul is saying that the law must be kept to not be under the curse of the law. That the Messiah Yushua Jesus came to redeem those that were under the curse of the law which was "Sin". He did not come to take away the law, but came to take away the curse sin's of those that had not kept the law. He died for our sins to be taken away, not the law to be taken away as some may believe.

In this chapter the divergent path of is explained. Will we trust in the Law given by God thru Moses, the oracles, or do we obviate the law thru Faith in the Son of God. Our faith, does it not depend on the law, for God heareth no sinners. He is a God who loves righteousness and hates the worldly man. Jacob have I loves but Esau have I hated. I think will must be ever mindful of our actions and perceptive of our inner most being so that we are acceptable in his sight. Our Faith is strengthened as we endure the hardships put in our path and still not falter in our Faith. Let every aspirant work out his own salvation by staying in the Word of Good, thereby being approved of God, the Father of our Master, Jesus Christ.

Agar born of the flesh persecuted Isaac born of the spirit . The verse ends saying- Even so it is now. Does this mean that the flesh continues to persecute the spirit even today. I would say YES. Does it have any reference to Paul 's persecution of Jesus? The flesh verses the spirit? Or am I correct on both accounts?

Our Beloved Apostle Paul was more radical when writing this Letter, the question of Ten commandemnts was addreseed by His Lord, Our Lord Jesus Christ on his first public Speech, Mat5:17-18. He Said i 'm not here to put end to law but to add. And not even one letter from law will be removed until the end comes. we therefore need to be cautious about not breaking Ten Commandments which were given to Moses in Mt Sinai.

So it doesn 't mean the pastor has an excuse to rip thru the flock yelling screaming and bullying because it is how he interprets "change my voice ", perhaps there is room here for spirit o meekness?

we need to understand what Jesus did for us before in old testament from Gensis to Malchi God is not mention to any one he is my son or she is my daughter, only by Jesus is possible are believer called adopted sons and daughter. Amen

No matter how hard or how many times you mess up, you can begin again. Best is yet to be when you are fully developed love consciousness and embodied Christ. A new beginning towards this goal starts today or any day you are ready. And if your body wears out and you are birthed into a new body, I will still be there for you. I am there with you for as long as it takes.

It is no wonder that for the next thirteen years of Abraham s life, Scripture records no actions of faith on Abraham s part. No revelation from God. No apparent fellowship with the Lord. No mention of prayers or sacrifices made. Thirteen years of spiritual barrenness wasted years! But why? Ishmael was the son Abraham produced of his own self effort, his own fleshly dependence, his own human thinking. Ishmael was not the son of promise, the miraculous child that God would bring of divine intervention. Ishmael represents the flesh, whereas Isaac represents the Spirit Gal. 4 28 31 .

Gal. 4 10 when thought of in occurrences in modern times, is very sad. These days we have Mothers ' and fathers ' day,valentine day, etc. We are all witnesses to how passionately these days are observed in almost all countries and communities all over the world. Let us ask ourselves and be very honest with our answer do we observe religious days with such passion? The answer is no. Paul 's comment in Gal 4 10 is as relevant to us in these end times as it was to the Galatians in Paul 's era. We have to stop and think.

Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all

This verse alone is what should give the Islamics an understanding of where they stand as regards to the birth right of Ishmael. The bondwoman was Haggar the mother of Ishmael therefore he was born of the flesh. But, Issac who was born of the freewoman Sarah was by promise. Issac is the rightful heir therefore, the Muslims need to stop fighting the Jews over that land God gave to Issac 's heirs. The promise was made to the son of Sarah and not the son of Haggar. The son of Haggar falls under the Abrahamic Covenant in the same order as of the Gentiles.

I agree with your comments. Our Religious attempts
at self control. I think you hit it on the head. The word religion means " back to bondage " or to
" re-bind " Paul talks about it much concerning the " law " and when it says to cast out the bond-
woman, I think it could be saying; get rid of trying to keep the law to be lead, but be lead by
the Spirit. The law might say, " Don't commit adultery," but only the Spirit can say, " Buy her
some roses and some chocolates for valentines day. "

The fulness of time came when the 700 years had expired, as scripture said. God had divorced The Nation Israel around 722 BC he could not remarry Israel for 10 generations. A generation, according to Psalm 90:10 3 score plus 10, masking it 70 years. Jesus came to Israel when the 700 years had expired.

Jesus Christ is my rock and my strong tower. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Yeshua/Jesus is my power and my shield. Praise the lord.

Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashisch is the promised Messiah.

Always we need to have more bible verses to be forwarded in ur email

I think this scripture is emphasizing the power struggle Agar's descendents (Palestinian Muslims),through her seed, Ismael, would have with the Israelites, and, therefore, in essence,this scripture was more both historic and prophetic than current-- i.e in Paul's time!

Abraham is the Bible Word sent into the world; Sarah and Agar are by revelation not people but figuratively are the TWO COVENANTS in the Bible.

Therefore, which of the two covenants are you born of? Gal.4:19-31.

Are you born of old carnally taught handwritten Bible Covenant/ordinances, writtenin black and white from the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelation, called the Letter OR are you born of the New Covenant Bible ordinances taught by the Spirit of God?

Sarah and Agar are NOT PEOPLE as presented by the OLD COVENANT BIBLE BUT ARE JERUSALEMS AND COVENANTS THAT ARE READ IN THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD.

Young Children, Understand that, the Law is not our obligation, to receive, or keep our salvation:

But it is are lamp to see God's will.... And when we desire a close relationship with God; we will start to pray, more than what we already do; We'll start to Scarface more of our time, and even our bodies: denying ourselves food for days; replacing our indulgence of food, with praise and worship to God, for the hole time that we fast. .... For through observation we see that God requires a sacrifice; one out of many, and most important examples is Jesus Christ, but the Bible says in 1 Samuel 15:22,that, "Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold,TO OBEY IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE, and to hearken than the fat of rams". .....

So the law is like a mirror; showing us, how close or how far we are from God, cause the closer we are to God: the more in-line we will be with the Law. ... And to back up that quote is the scripture 1 John 5:13, and it says, "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments". .... So the more we Love God, the more righteous we will become through his ***istance; not by our works of the Law; but through are level of relationship with him.

To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. I AM REDEEMED, I’ve been REDEEMED by the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS. Redemption: Purchasing the slave; Christ purchased the sinner in the market place. The original Greek means that HE CAME OUT OF HIS WAY, WALKED INTO THE MARKET PLACE WHERE SLAVES WERE BEING SOLD AND WENT IN A BOUGHT THAT SLAVE FOR HIMSELF. I mean that Jesus said Father, I am going down on earth, let me disrobe myself, let me remove all the Glory, I am going to lay down my life for them, I am going to pay the price for them. I am going to redeemed them. I am going to go to the market place and I am going to pay the price for the slave. “Thou shalt call His Name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.” The Greek word there comes from the word SATARIEA. Which means Salvation. In other words I just didn’t come to wipe your sins out, but I came to heal your body, to deliver you and to set you free.

I get it!now to live it.....GRACE (with GRATITUDE) is the only way.not law....LIFE is in THE "BLOOD".,of JESUS.

Paul tells the Galatians have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth. We as ministers are to speak the truth in love, and while we sometimes make enemies of the people that we speak to, it is the truth that sets men free. The Galatian Church received Paul as an angel of God,and Paul faithfully preached the word of God to them with his weakness in the flesh. How the churches need to do that to those who have disabilities. My church voted to close down in 2008 after the pastor passed away, and due to my disability I was left without church to minister to. God be praised while I am disabled, the Gospel is not disabled, and the truth that sets men free continues to go out. We are the children of the free woman, and not the bond woman. So we must glorify God is our body, and wait for the blessed hope the glorious coming of our Lord Jesus Christ who shall change our vile bodies. We shall see him as he is, and we shall be like him.

what a wonderful promise in galatians..we are no longer sons and daughters of the bond woman but of the free woman.. We should no longer be enslaved by sin, but be freed through Jesus Christ who loved us and gave himself for us. What a saccrifice .

at the beginning it says that an heir is like a servant under tutors and govenors until it is time for him to rule. so i feel like it is saying we must still work for the furtherence of Gods kingdom. learning under our pastors, studying the word, fasting, and praying, and then take what we learn and teach others through our actions words and deeds always giving God the glory, until we are called up into heaven with Him. but i think it is works that the ppl had to do under the law that we are free from. like no more animal sacrifices because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and things like that that we are not to do any longer.

Apparently we are to cast our our human attempts to bring about God's promises, because our well-meant worldly religious endeavors will not bring about God's life in us like Jesus does. We cannot be an overcomer on our own and God usually does not automatically change us, but only we can apply to our lives that which only Jesus could have made available for us. He that has the Son has life (otherwise/otherwise) ( 1 Jn. 5:12).