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Because of Satan's beguiling.

Watch what you hear.

John 16:33 These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

The first commanment to mankind and we could not obey this simple thing.

1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil

John 3:3

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

Acts 16:31

"And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not

John 3:6

"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

John 3:7

"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again

John 3:8

"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

1John3:12

Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous

Jude 1:11

"Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core."

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

It's not exactly a quotation on abortion but look up Jeremiah 32:35. The people of Judah were sacrificing their children in the fires to the god Molech, something that never came into God's mind that they should perform such an abomination.

Human life begins at conception. God knows a person before they are even born into this world. There is plenty of Scripture verses which indicate this is so.

I may choose answer some questions if genuine. When I do so it's to be helpful, but no one is entitled to others' time and effort. Some questions are easily answered by a 2 second Google search. I think you're the same person who said some political things in a previous thread and your language was a bit strong. I will go ahead and share some verses in case your question is genuine. Matthew 19:14. Matthew 18:3. Exodus 20:13. Psalm 139:13.

God, Jesus and the holy spirit are we.

US is the LET US in 2 of the Godhead scriptures. They were discussing a situation amongst themselves: 3 Persons in the Godhead: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7; 1 John 5:7

John 10:30 and Acts 17: 27-30

Write those down. It comes up in conversation a lot.

Hi Caleb, us is plural, because the trinity is one God but in 3 persons or personalities. Link

Us refers to what? More gods?

You are right,

It was said by Eve.

Eve saw the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Satan) as the most desirable and beautiful creature she had ever seen.

That is why she added the words "neither shall ye touch it."

Both she and Adam failed.

eve said that , cant find in bible where GOD said it , I think adam told her that , because he was lazy , he should of did his job , tend the garden, just like most churchs , you pray on the corner so everybody can see, but when it comes time to work, to help GOD make a differance in there lives,not preach as adam did , just my thoughts

My take on that is, that God took a rib bone out of his side: not out of his head so he could be over Eve; not out of the hip so Eve would be below Adam. They were a perfect pair. God even performed the first marriage. Eve was to be Adams helper.

Eve was by herself when Satan was tempting her. She knew they were not to touch that Trees Fruit. How long was Adam gone? Why didn't he say: we're naming geckos today, why don't you come along and HELP me with that? He kissed her goodbye and left her alone.

He wasn't over her head.....but He was Head of the Household. If you take off and are gone all day, you might get home and see 7 boxes of brand new shoes! :/

I don't think it wasn't a matter of not having a marriage counseling shop next door. It was simply not paying attention to or forgetting to esteem others....as important as yourself. Decisions are best made together.

Satan studies everything we do. He notes our habits. Where we go, what we do. What we look at on our computers or iPhones. He maps our weak spots. We underestimate his intention to DESTROY us and our relationship to Jesus. He hates Jesus because Jesus stepped on satans head. Genesis 3:15

It was God who created man...male and female He created them. It was the LORD God who later joined man to a physical body (Eve). The sin committed in Eden wasn't only the learning right from wrong but it was Eve convincing Adam that it was the right thing to do. The physical body is not supposed to command the divine self. The physical body was given as a help mate so the divine nature of man could interact with the world. Our divine nature should command our every thought, our every action, our every touch.

There is more to the story. Read about the war in heaven where God banished the devil to earth.

24 Wherefore God also GAVE THEM UP to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

(The reason why we care enough to witness to friends and family and pray to the Lord of the Harvest).

Mishael

3;3 God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

GOD actually said the man has become like one of Us and NOT become like Us

What GOD actually said was that

can not find where GOD said " do not touch "

Alexander - "If", when you express doubt about the witness of scripture regarding God's creation of Adam

and Eve, what difference can any other issue make that would escape your doubts?

Unaware of? You're not alone. And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err,

because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? Mark 12:24

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" The very first lie.

Adam was created west of Eden. If you got a old map I think he was created in the land of Nod. Eve was created in Eden.

If God created Adam and Eve in this story and Lucifer was already involved was there some time skip I wasn't aware of? Because there's a whole story of Lucifer to cover with him and his fallen angels and I find it weird they skip right through that as if there's nothing that happened between the time.

There were no Hebrews until Genesis chapter 10 when Eber begat Peleg and Joktan.

You would think that an Hebrew would have a Hebrew name.

Psalm 119:130 King James Version (KJV)

130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

I will include a testimony at the end of this:

In American schools, the Genesis creation narrative was generally taught as the origin of the universe and of life until Darwin's scientific theories became widely accepted. While there was some immediate backlash, organized opposition did not get underway until the Fundamentalist-Modernist Controversy broke out following World War I; several states passed laws banning the teaching of evolution while others debated them but did not pass them. The Scopes Trial was the result of a challenge to the law in Tennessee. Scopes lost his case, and further states passed laws banning the teaching of evolution.

In 1968, the US Supreme Court ruled on Epperson v. Arkansas, another challenge to these laws, and the court ruled that allowing the teaching of creation, while disallowing the teaching of evolution, advanced a religion, and therefore violated the Establishment Clause of the constitution. Creationists then starting lobbying to have laws passed that required teachers to Teach the Controversy, but this was also struck down by the Supreme Court in 1987 in Edwards v. Aguillard. Creationists then moved to frame the issue as one of intelligent design but this too was ruled against in a District Court in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District in 2005.

The issue has remained contentious, with various US states debating, passing, or voting down alternative approaches to creationism in science classrooms. There is no bar in US law to creationism being taught in civics, current affairs, philosophy, or comparative religion classes.

Testimony:

My 8 yr old son came home and asked me if "we humans came from apes?" Quick prayer! I said no. We come from God. He blurted he had to take a test the next day on evolution. He was upset.

I quizzed him on ape lives vs human. Then I told him he had my permission to FAIL the test. Which he did.

Don't bow your knee to False Prophets!

Believe in God only!

Children are being taught from both home & school that published 'historical' facts are far more reliable than any faith-based understanding of the world we live in. Even the apostles had to combat this intrusion into the early Church where this gnostic influence & teaching was creeping in, which amongst its many teachings, taught that man's knowledge & ability to acquire it was of far greater worth than virtue. This suggested that it was fine to be morally upright, but the acquisition of knowledge was of greater value, & through knowledge one could better himself & delve deeper into one's subconscious to find the divine.

Is it any wonder that the Bible is no longer required but one can depend on what scientists, philosophers & sages have discovered over the ages & this becomes the truth on which we must establish ourselves & proceed from. So, if children are taught that their ancestors were actually apes & through a pictorial description show that evolution over time proves that humanoids developed from them, then if the matter of faith in the biblical account is brought to them, it becomes a strange unbelievable teaching lacking any substance. And so it would, if everything that is taught to them is so-called 'fact based', even though those 'facts' may well be full of errors. But what do they care, as long as they progress in education & matters of 'religion' are left out for those so inclined.

The question then is, have Christians failed their societies by remaining quiet when devilish teaching went on, subjecting our young ones to lies? Would the tide of wickedness be stemmed somewhat, had Christians overtly resisted Satan? How many have arisen to withstand this onslaught? Very few, while we remain smug in our Churches ensuring that at least in those hallowed halls, our people & children are taught God's Word. We might have a lot to answer for in our suppression of God's Word to all.