Genesis Chapter 6 Discussion Page 21

These angles left their estate (heaven) came down from heaven and TOOK the daughters of men and children were born (meaning very tall and strong) these are considered the fallen angles the third that fell with satan.

God never said that angles did not have a specific sex, He merely said that they did not marry. Read you Bible. The angels did have sexual relationships with woman and thus created the Nephilim, the giants of old, men of renown. It was because of this pollution to the DNA of humans that God had to destroy His creation. Only Noah and his family did not allow their DNA to be corrupted. Try reading the book of Enoch to which Jesus Himself refers, and you will learn the whole truth about those days. Also, prepare yourself because Jesus said, "As in the days of Noah, so shall be the coming the Son of Man be....

It's me again, I meant the kingship descended upon earth before the flood and after!

In Genesis chapter 1-Beasts of the earth(Dinosaurs)and in chapter 2-beasts of the field(mammals of today). In Genesis 6 vs 4; were the fallen angels who fornicated with the daughters of men and procreated GIANTS.In the Septuagint Bible it reads, and they bore them children, these were the giants of old, men of renown. In the Sumerian King's list, the kingship ascended before the flood and after, therfore twice did fallen angels descend upon earth and commited the same sin which equalled the Rephaim after the flood, but, in the book of Enoch,towards the last chapter, it reads that Noah's posterity would produce giants of carnel flesh which equalled the caananites, the amorites etc....etc....

To, Denard

You may want to check out Jude, and read up what it says angles actually did, and where they will be sent to. Also, angles did, according to the scriptures have come down many times back then, and took coporeal human like forms. they were suboordinate to God's will, but any rebellious ones would not be on the same accord. I mean Jacob wrestled with the angel (I think thats who) and then men who were in Sodom tried to gang rape the two angles that came to sojurn with Lot.

This says angels had sex with human women in Earth and their offspring were called Nephilim- like giants, who possibly became Philistines and were mentioned in Numbers 13:33 as inhabiting Canaan.

Interesting how verse 3 says man's age will be limited to 120 years and thousands of years later with all of man's innovations in science and health, it still holds true. The oldest people in the world live to be right around 120.

We can rule the half angel and half humans out because God say that angels do not have sex. Besides angels would not be able to reproduce with humans anymore then a rabbit can reproduce with a snake and create half snake half rabbit hybird.
I often wonder what God mean't by giants in the earth in those days. Wanted to ask harold camping that but never got a chance. Insects were bigger and rabbits where 6ft tall so maybe humans could the been 10-12ft tall back then making them giants. Since being that tall was normole noah could the been 12ft and not felt like a giant if everybody eles was that big. Preflood eviroment was diffrent. Maybe people grew smaller after the flood. it may have when down to 9ft, 8ft 7ft until our current average.

Passages like these referring to the sons of God are difficult to understand. There really is no possibility of any definitive resolutions to the questions this chapter in Genesis raises. There simply isn't enough information in the Bible itself to do so.

Yea, just to through my own 1/2 cent in there...it also helps to be able to read and speak hebrew, and latin. There are many synonyms that they use, which when translated to english have two COMPLETLY different meanings, or are similar, but different. My best example is when the Holy spirit came in and gave teh disciples power. In that passage it talks aobut different "kinds" of power where as Jesus had Power, the disciples recived a different kind of power a "power to do things" its really hard to explain, but i learned of it only through latin. Think of it as meaning power=the ablility to do work, and Power=Authoritative power(like a judges power). Anyway i digress to my original 1/2 cent. If you take the hebrew literally of the name Micheal, it translates to " Who is like God?" important to take into the fact that it ends in a question mark.

If you really want to know about the Giants look in youtube for Giants Found and you will see that these men were/are real and actually existed! God reveals to man thru the Holy Spirit and men wrote it down for the future generations of childrens yet unborn. Praise God! God is TRUTH!!

everything the bible said happened, really happened!

sorry, jennifer, both you and wesley are way off. do you know the only reason that interpretation was used was because people just found it too incredible? but isnt the Bible filled with the incredible? angels were not supposed to, but these were FALLEN angels, who were attempting to contaminate the human bloodline and stave off the birth of Jesus. you'll notice that noah is described as "perfect in his generations", meaning exactly what it says, his bloodline was not polluted. even jude 1:6-7 says 6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire". so yes angels are not supposed to have sex w/ humans but these guys did and were punished. the "myths" of zeus, apollo, and hercules were all true. the fallen angels claimed to be gods and the people worshipped them. the giants were called "heroes, men of renown". nothing i say is unBiblical. the Bible doesnt get into it but the inferences are there. the book of enoch is more descriptive. the book of enoch is considered apochrapal because of its subject matter and was taken out of the Bible by the catholic church. but several copies of the book of enoch were found w/ the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I believe that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were fallen angels. One reason why is because angels are called "sons of God" in Job 1:6, 2:1 38:7, plus it says in 2 Peter 2:4, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment"
What was their sin? It couldn't have been the sin of rebellion, because otherwise, all the fallen angels would be in hell, and we know that they are not. Only some of the fallen angels married women of the earth and sired children who ended up being giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 is talking about, and Jude 6 speaks more about that sin, it speaks of angels that kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation. A group of fallen angels did not keep their first estate, but left it to come down to earth and either took on human form or possessed the bodys of earth men and mated with earth women, and the result was a race of giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 is talking about. If "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were the line of seth or just men in general, why does it use the word "men" then "sons of God" if men and sons of God both refer to men? The word "men" is in verse 1, and "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 2. "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 4. "sons of God" and "men" must be two different types of beings, otherwise, why not just use the word "men" instead of "sons of God" as well?

If the sons of God were the godly line of Seth who were unequally yoked together with the ungodly daughters of Cain, I doubt that that would cause their offspring to be giants. They were giant in size because in Numbers 13:33 it says, "And there we saw the giants {nephelim in Hebrew} and it goes on to say, "and we were in our own sight grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. So the nephelim in Gen. 6 must have been giant is size just like the nephelim in Numbers 13, and something happened to make them giant sized, and it could not have been because of godly men marrying ungodly women. Something else went on to make them giants, and that was the unnatural union between angels and earth women who married and had sex.

I like Butch's statement about the use of the word renown, if taken by the meaning of the word it leaves the impression that they/are good which they were not it seems.

Joe! Who told you that angels are sexless? Read the book of Jude and learn about the angels who had left their first estate. I personally know of demon oppressed people who have been sexually molested by demons, while lying in bed next to their husbands. The scripture is accurate.

Personally i feel i am unable to firmly grasp the concept of this passage i have read several times over and am unable to find anything about the fallen angels. I have read about the giants however but again do not fully understand the gravity with which this passage holds if anyone can shed some light on this it would be very much appreciated.

I am thinking of God's promise, and how He fulfills His promise

Wesley did just fine explaining this verse. Angels have never in scripture, or other wise, had sexual relations...

Love this Chapter. Not only did the angels find a way to produce a hybrid being, they taught humans heavenly secrets and understandings. Fallen angels didn't account for humans being just that, Human and that God's word was, is and always shall be. It will be and be and be. Then include you through grace and be some more. Anyhow, Part angel part human, where do they go when you die? Nowhere! Confined to the earth where they will hunger, thirst and have no rest. Demons. We know what's up. We don't know the behind the scenes part of the story. What really went down that would cause there to be room in heaven and that evil should try and prevent any one human at all, from getting there?

I don't know ,but I think the angels do they are masculine in gender, but they are sexless, how could it they be married with human? I need to study more about these verse.

this passage speaks of the giants born of the unholy union of fallen angels and human women. "in the earth in those days, and after that" means that before the Flood, these beings were rampant on the earth. after the Flood destroyed them however, it sounds like there was ANOTHER incursion to earth by fallen angels and again they sired these evil deformed giants that were an abomination in the eyes of God. "mighty men which were of old, men of reknown" is NOT a compliment. its meant to convey the giants strength and their pride in their strength.

ralph, dinosaurs are mentioned in other passages (leviathan and behemoth) in the Bible but this passage is about the Nephilim, the fallen ones, that the fallen angels sired.

good old wesley has the translation all wrong. there are no "sons of seth" or "daughters of cain". the sons of God are fallen angels who forsook their heavenly estate and had sex w/ human women, producing evil, deformed giants. this was an abomination in the eyes of God and was one of the reasons God destroyed the earth w/ the flood because the fallen angels had corrupted the human bloodline.

response to Brian C Lee; For the latest in God's solution for people in trouble, I recommend reading in the New Testament. For starters, maybe John 3, Romans 8, & 1 Jn 1:9. These promises are sure for anyone who yields to Jesus; trusting in Him. The wonderful plan is fortold throughout the Old Testament, but harder to understand. May our Lord direct you to his goodness. love ya.

my dad is lucifer so i definately beleive in angels having sex with humans. but just because i am his son doesnt mean im evil. i too would like to know the truth about the giants and mighty men and what they are really up to. all i know so far is i feel like a body that has been born to be harvested. let it not be so,Oh LORD please strive with me i will listen save me from these evil sons who betrayed you long ago and know torture us and our friends our mother earth and her precious blood , Oh LORD forgive me for i know not what ive done.

@Daniel Brown

No, I'm not Mormon. I've never read the book of Jasher. My beliefs are not Mormon. The only church I've ever been associated with is the Seventh Day Adventist church, of which I am no longer in association with.

This will be the final time I post here, and I truly mean this. The only reason I came back is because GOD gave me one last argument to present before I left this page for good. I felt obligated to present it to you because I care about Him, His word, and whether or not it is being represented correctly.

"The Sons of GOD" are not angels. Firstly, without your book of Enoch, there isn't any proof of this. One cross reference to Enoch in the book of Jude isn't enough to prove that the book of Enoch isn't a false book.

Secondly, I would like to direct you to John 1:12, which reads: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" KJV

Right there, in that verse, the sons of God are those who believe in Him. Just as I said from the beginning. Seth's bloodline were those who believed in GOD and stayed true to His word.

Still not convinced? After all, you might argue that humans become angels and therefore "sons of God" could still be referring to angels. This is a very common belief amongst Christians. I would like to tell you that this is also incorrect.

Take a look at Hebrews 1:13&14 KJV - "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right
hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"

In this text, Angels are described as spirits that were sent to minister for the heirs of salvation. The heirs of salvation are those who believe in Jesus Christ and are saved by Him. So if Angels are spirits that minister to the saved, then the saved can't be the same as Angels! Therefore, the humans becoming angels argument gets thrown out the window.

The Sons of GOD are those who believe in the LORD. Pure and simple. I'll take what the Bible says over ridiculous conspiracy theory that has absolutely no backing whatsoever other than a book of questionable authority and a few Bible verses taken out of context any day of the week.

Once again, dealing with a twenty four hour day. This passage allow room to understand that DINOSAURS existed. (There were giants in the earth in those days;)and men of renown. A separation between DINOSAURS AND ANGELS.
Therefore, this shows the times of the Prehistoric Age.

Fallen angels, refer to as sons of God in verse 2&4, did leave their original habitation and took woman they choose and had children with them. These children became giants in the earth, the same became mighty men which (were) of old, men of renown.The thinking and deeds of man were evil and violence, and God repented that he created man.God stated that His spirit will not always strive with man, because of there flesh.Noah walked with God and was saved along with sons and their wives from the flood that destroyed man on the earth.The rainbow we see today represents God covernant with man, that He will not destroyed the earth again with a flood. Praise be to God.

I think Y'all need to read Rev chapter 22:18.the book is not just Revelations,it's the bible.

@ Michael (again)
How do you know Enoch is a false book? You do realize the book was found with the dead sea scrolls, right? You do realize the book was a part of the Jewish biblical canon until about 400 A.D. too, right? Your Seth and Cain bloodline theory came from the book of Jasher and that book has yet to be confirmed to even be the actual book that is talked about in the bible. If Job is not talking about angels then what is Job talking about? You seem to be good at saying what is not true, but I have not seen you say anything that is true and give an actual reference to why it is true. You keep quoting scripture about false prophets. That's a weak arguement seeing that we are only developing theories on how things got so bad and why God decided to wipe out the earth and start over through Noah. You only answered the one thing I directed toward you and conveniently overlooked what I wrote to Vic. Your arguments and references are shallow. You also seem to enjoy shooting down everyone elses theories without being able to accurately explain what something actually means and why it would mean what you are claiming. I know your angles because I have heard them a million times from people just like you. You also told someone to open their minds on this site. I would like to point out the only closed minded person in here is the one who is not considering more than just one theory. I don't believe fallen angels had sex with humans either. I do, however, believe they were possibly playing God and had the technology to manipulate DNA and artificially inseminate a human woman. Where do you think technology came from? Do you truly believe human ingenuity created all of this God-hating technology? God is the ultimate creator and Lucifer has been doing all he can to imitate God and draw man away from him and follow the path of evil. If you truly think modern day technology just popped up out of nowhere in the last 120 years, you may want to wake up and see things and try to find a better understanding that time on earth and time in the spiritual realm are two totally different things. Until you understand have have a firm hold on that concept, you are going to just talk youself into circles with those who know more than you.