Revelation Chapter 20 Discussion Page 4

Thats why people are confused about the coming of jesus in the year 2000 is not the end of the world is the end of the ERA, the believers ERA, Jesus will come in 1993 and pick up the believers, those that have receive Jesus will stick to him as a magnet and 7 years later they will come with him so he can have power and authority to touch down on earth and this the time when satan will be loch in the cave for 1000 years those 1000 years is what I call the seventh day the they of Rest

I feel that those in ch 20 verse 4 are those who have died in the seven years of tribulation as Gods people but have been marterred but the rest of the dead rightous and sinners will remain in there graves waiting for that last ressurection. Wouldn't that be why some in that last judgement will be saved and some will be cast into hell or the lake of fire. Maby those that miss heaven in the last judgement are those did not truly truly live for God but justified themselves. Just the way I see it.

Revelation Chapter 20 is about how the devil can influence people, to such an extent that they worship false images and satanism instead of praising and to worship God and the Holy Spirit. God is for every person regardless of age, sex, sexual orientation, race and background and try not to make the devil influence a person's judgement and the way how they live.

Keith Vaughan

How true that scripture in Timothy! I love all of you who comment. May God bless you, my brothers and sisters in Christ.

I only wish I could go back to my childhood and stay faithful. I so regret my backsliding days.

2 Timothy Chapter 3

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them];

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 ALL scripture [is] given BY INSPIRATION OF GOD, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Wesley's Notes 2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is inspired of God - The Spirit of God not only once inspired those who wrote it, but continually inspires, supernaturally assists, those that read it with earnest prayer. Hence it is so profitable for doctrine, for instruction of the ignorant, for the reproof or conviction of them that are in error or sin, for the correction or amendment of whatever is amiss, and for instructing or training up the children of God in all righteousness.

Mishael

Romeo, ...part2

I think it would be more accurate if we would distinguish between the descendants of the house of Judah ('Jews'), descendants of the house of Israel ('Israelites'), and gentiles (those who are not descended from Jacob (Israel)).

Both houses of Israel (house of Israel and house of Judah) generally came to reject God and were eventually swept away by agents of God's anger.

The house of Israel (sometimes called Ephraim or Samaria) was taken into captivity by the Assyrians.

Jews self identify as descendants of the house of Judah. They were largely taken into captivity by the Assyrians just a few years after the house of Israel was taken by them. The remainder of them (Jerusalem) were taken captive into Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar a century or more later. These Jews (of Jerusalem) who were taken into Babylonian captivity were given permission to return sometime after 70 years of captivity. At Jesus' first advent He received a mixed reception from these Babylonian Jews. According to tradition Jesus' disciples took the His message to different parts of the world where they were martyred for His Word.

The rest of Israel (house of Judah and house of Israel) did not return to the land from Assyria and are sometimes referred to as the lost tribes of Israel. God said that He would sift them through the nations and will regather them. It is my belief that they would come to be receptive to the teachings of Jesus and accept Him as their Saviour. For the most part they no longer know who they are and would even refer to themselves as gentiles just as the New Testament does. There is a fair amount of general support for this view in the Bible.

Romeo,

Verse 4 seems like a good indication of their identity ( Revelation 20:4). "... and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Since those who suffered persecution/death for the witness of Jesus were by and large what you call "gentiles", I would venture to guess that most of them are "gentiles" with some believing "Jews" among them.

I think it would be more accurate if we would distinguish between the descendants of the house of Judah ('Jews'), descendants of the house of Israel ('Israelites'), and gentiles (those who are not descended from Jacob (Israel)).

1- Are these the same people from Revelation 7:15-17

2- And, are these people only Jews? Or both Jews and gentiles?

Ricky, the whole 19th chapter of Revelation describes the marriage supper of the lamb, which all the children of the resurrection have their part therein (study it, it is not as simple as one thinks). When their (the children of the resurrection) physical bodies die they are birthed (delivered) into the presents of Christ. Revelation 20 describes the ones that were not raised in the first resurrection. Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead ( those that died in their trespasses lived not again until the thousand years ( II Peter 3:9 ......a thousand years as one day, the day of the Lord) was finished. This is the first resurrection. Revelation 20:1 And I (John) saw an angel [(of the Lord, Jesus) come down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit (death and the grave: Revelation 1:18 I am he (Jesus) that liveth, and was dead; and behold I (Jesus) am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell (grave) and of death (the wages or sin is death)] and a great chain in his (Jesus) hand. And he (Jesus) laid hold on that old serpent (those that died in their trespasses, the children of your father the devil),which is the devil, and Satan, and bound (in the grave) him ( those that died in their trespasses) a thousand year ( a thousand years as one day, the day of the Lord). (vs) 7 And when the thousand years (the day of the Lord) are expired, Satan (children of) shall be loosed out of prison (the grave). Revelation 20:4 And I (John) saw thrones ( Revelation 3:21 To him (children of the resurrection) that overcometh will I (Jesus) grant to sit with me (Jesus) in my throne, even as I (Jesus) overcame, and am sit down with my Father in his throne..... and they (children of the resurrection) lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years (a thousand years as one day, day of the Lord).

the events foretold in Revelation are today's headlines

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Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

National news media in the USA will most likely not report this story. You may have to read national Israeli news, Jerusalem Post.

THIS WAS IN THE NEWS this morning!

This is a threat, that if it comes to pass (it really happens), God is going to prevent all the bombs they launch at Israel, from hitting the ground.

It would be a miracle of the same magnitude as opening the Red Sea so the Israelites could flee Pharaoh, in the Old Testament.

If you want to verify the story is true, go to the ACLJ website and read it. Sign the petitions against it.

I am so grieved that this country would now elect a president that most likely, will not act Against this threat.

It's also a sign of the times that we are living in; approaching. Let Gods Word be true, and everyone who denies it, a liar.

Prophesies do not lie. If it's written, it will happen, as written. I'll be back later when I locate that prophesy in the prophetic books. I'll post it. Glory to God in the Highest!! We're going to our new home soon.

"In a huge development, the U.S. has brokered a major peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Showing their true colors, Palestinian leaders are calling this PEACE deal a "stab in the back." The Palestinian terrorist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad were quick to condemn peace and try to stir up further animosity.

This is a major move for the security of our ally Israel.

Yet, the anti-Israel U.N. and terrorist agitators in the Middle East - like Iran - want to destroy Israel. The president of the Palestinian Authority even threatened that "MILLIONS OF FIGHTERS" would attack Jerusalem and Israeli settlements "shall all be destroyed." Air attacks.

We were there when the U.S. embassy was moved to the eternal capital of Israel - Jerusalem. We're aggressively working to defend Israel's interests.

Just days ago, we sent a new legal letter to the U.N. Security Council to defend Israel's interests. And we're in federal court in our 3 major Israel-related cases, where "Palestinian" agitators are threatening Israel's interests with bogus lawsuits.

To FRED SCANLAN

Please consider the following:

God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).

Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).

He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Revelation 20

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a THOUSAND years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations NO MORE, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a LITTLE SEASON.

COMMENT by MISHAEL ON VERSE 3: the people to be tempted are the ones that received Salvation during the Great Tribulation. See Verse 7 also.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had NOT worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Comment: the wicked dead.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

We should remember that the Bema Seat Judgement by Jesus, is ongoing during this time. Of the Believers/Christians

For rewards or loss of rewards.

Don't be led astray by false teachers or false doctrines. YOU have the responsibility to verify everything taught to you by scripture.

*the Book of Revelation has a blessing for every time it is read by you.

Mishael

so, this part is puzzling too me. Satan must be loosed for a season??? This is a warning? The angel or len loose him from this black hole or bottomless pit or men will loose him. But Christ has reigned for 2000 years on earth as he say behold the kingdom of heaven is here! Today. So I'm thinking that already Christ reign and the people who are filled with his spirit??? I'm curious the earth inhabitable for 1000 more years is 2020?

Dear Andy, It is very clear to all that one of us is in grave error.

Carleton

To CARLETON

The messages we post each are indeed according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him ( John 14:17). Please note the word 'cannot'.

We speak with a clear conscience towards God and toward men ( Acts 24:16), and we say the truth in Christ, we lie not, our conscience also bearing us witness in the Holy Ghost ( Romans 9:1).

The time has come when it must be said: You are a follower of an image of a false god and a false Christ and if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

The comments you post are misleading, empty and without basis or spiritual wisdom and knowledge. With great swelling words you speak of God's love, but we know you, that ye have not the love of God in you ( John 5:42). When we say we know you, it means 'spiritually'. The believers judge after the spirit of man ( John 8:15).

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit ( John 3:8).

Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).

The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

You are of the world: therefore do you speak of the world and the world hears you ( John 4:4).

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error ( 1 John 4:6; Isaiah 8:20).

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Note:in verse 10 " ...the devil that deceived them...". The devil is the master of deception because it is 1 of the devil's very best old weapon-of-mass destruction; for example let us remember the devil used deception on Eve and she used it on Adam, and 2020 is no exception because this very old but same deception is being offered to kings /leaders, and us 24/7 in 2020, mater-of-fact see verse 7 & 8 above.

Note: Being 'deceived by the devil' is.... but deception when being deceived by myself appears far worse, especially when one kick GOD's plan for SALVATION / John 3:16-21 to the curve because we are sooo in-love with man-made stuff & things or man, women, children; yes, all stand at the folk-in-the-road and will be faced with choosing delicious-deception or John 3:61-21.



Note: 'THE BOOK OF LIFE' (see verse 15 above) has room for all our names to be enter in IT through John 3:16-21 and similar verses that guides us into SALVATION, thereby we avoid the lake of fire mention in verse 15 above.

Probably you've heard that Jesus is God incarnate, i.e. God come in the flesh. We believe in the one God, the Creator of all things, the Holy One of Israel. Beside Him there is no other god. God in His Eternal Existence reveals Himself to man as the Word of God & the Spirit of God. And this God in His Fullness (i.e. His Deity) we read in 1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

In Galatians 4:4, 5: "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons." So, God Himself by His Word came to His people. You remember how God had given his words to Israel by the mouth of the prophets?

Those days have now finished for God did something new: ( Hebrews 1:1-3), "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".

God, the Word, was made man & He would be called Immanuel ( Isaiah 7:14) & "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. ( Matthew 1:23). "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." ( Matthew 1:21).

Not only did God appoint His Son (His Word in the Flesh) to bring His Message, but also to give His Life for our sins. As Thomas finally exclaimed, "My Lord and my God" & he wasn't rebuked by Jesus.

I'm a little confused, am I hearing from the attached Comments, and Interpretations of Scripture, people are insinuating "Jesus" is "GOD the Lord"...?

Matthew, Mark, & John tells Us over & over again, who "GOD" is, and who we are suppose to be Serving(GOD), and not Serving(Man) ... Jesus was Born a Man, correct ???

Revelation 21:4-7

4 And "God" shall wipe away all teares from their eyes: and there shall bee no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there bee any more paine: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he (GOD) that sate vpon the throne, said, Behold, I(GOD)make all things new. And hee (GOD) said vnto me (John), Write: for these words are true and faithfull.

6 And he (GOD) said vnto mee (John), It is done: I (GOD)am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I (GOD) will giue vnto him (Chosen, Israel) that is athirst, of the fountaine of the water of life, freely....



7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his "God", and he shall be my "Son".



Luke 2:49 And he (Jesus) said vnto them (Parents), How is it that ye sought me(Jesus)? Wist yee not that I must bee about my fathers(GOD) businesse? Which Scripture tells us to serve "Jesus" instead.

Please direct me to the correct verse that say's Praise Jesus for/to get to "GOD our Lord & Saver". (I am truly troubled by this ) .. Thx

I too considered this question myself and read again 20th chapter and latter part of verse 1 of the Revelation, that he(Satan) should deceive the nations no more, til the thousand years are fulfilled.

These are the same people who were destroyed by the brightness of Christ at His return for his people 2 Thessalonians 2:8. Satan cant deceive them, Christ brightness destroys them, they are all dead. Then at the end of the thousand years Satan will be loosed to deceive them for a short season, Revelation 20:5 the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

Jesus does not expect us to mock the Bible but t to simply look back and some point of our lives should reflect the stories in it.

This duplicated or mocking is not ethical bc it has already been done and we are to walk by faith prophets of phony are what we are to see onend times and trust me thisishere now. The devil attacks ones mind and this a contagious as theflu when eating of same bowl. When he says be aware and sober I do believe he means it

Thank you for replying.

Regarding the Lord Jesus Christ: "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." ( John 1:10-13)

If your precious ones come to trust in Jesus Christ for salvation, they would have God almighty as their loving Father.

John 6:63: " It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

Deuteronomy 23:2

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

What can I do for my 3 children that where born out of wedlock?

In the KJV, are the words "children" and "sons" synonymous?

No where I have found in scriptures nor Apocryphal scriptures ( the ones referred to or quoted from in our Biblical canon) , does it say that demons would be locked up during the Millennial Kingdom ONLY satan. Therefore, all born during this time can still be tested and tried just as all the generations prior. Therefore satan's " short season " or "short time" has little to do with the testing of individual people. In REVELATION 20, he is locked up so he can not decieve the " nation's".

It specifically says in Revelation 20:7 why he is released to decieve ALL the people of the Earth in every way possible. Putting darkness for light and light for darkness. To decieve the people in regards to where we are on Yahovahs prophetic timeline. To change the Sabbath, Holy days, and basically anything and everything Yahovah has created and called " good". To desicrate Yahovahs Temple ( which is us He NO longer dwells in temples made from man) . Then satan as to stir up the nation's against each other and then against His Annointed One/ones ( Yahushua & His people ) in His Holy City and on His Holy Mountain. Satan is going to do AGAIN what he previously did PRIOR to the Millennial Kingdom reign ( Revelation 19).

When we JUST read the scriptures and not take the time to simply do as Yahushua warned us. . .line upon line precept upon precept studying to show our selves approved by testing ALL things; we mistakenly miss out on so much of His message. I KNOW, I did this for years and while I did read them over and over while praying over them, I failed to actually study them. Every word ( jot ) and every punctuation ( tittle ).

May Yahovah bless you all as you seek Him and His TRUTH in ALL things .

Even Born again believers have the seed of sin remaining in them, these bodies as we know them, cannot carry this seed into heaven. Heaven has been restored, Satan has been cast out and is here on earth and Satan is an ally to our flesh. The length of chain is not described in Revelation and should be kept in mind.

Some people who gat saved during The Great Tribulation, will escape being murdered by the Antichrist. They never took the Mark of the Beast.

They will be taken to heaven as born again humans. Their bodies will not be transformed into eternal bodies yet. There will be marriages and children born.

After the 1000 years (?) Satan is going to be loosed to tempt THEM to follow Him.

For me, I would not want to be tempted by Satan after he just got released from 1000 years of Hell.