Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 44

  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hey Chris,

    Just something to consider about your post on what Paul was teaching, "deceased believers were already in Heaven and that at His Coming, Jesus would bring them with Him and their bodies buried in the earth would join with their spirits. So, the believers should be assured that God had not forgotten those who were in their graves at His Coming, since they were very much alive with Him & together would join with those living believers on Earth".

    I would ask, are we mortal beings or immortal beings? Saying that believers are in heaven and very much alive is saying we are eternal beings, or that our spirit or soul is immortal. If we look at Ecclesiastes 12:7, this applies to all of mankind, whether they are believers or the evilest person who has ever lived. All spirits return to God.

    James 2:26 says, "the body without the spirit is dead". Adam was not a living soul/being until God breathed into him the breath of life, Genesis 2:7. This is the spirit of life that God gives to all living, and the part of us that God communicates with us, Proverbs 20:27, 2 Corinthians 2:13, and when we die, there is no more communication; we wait for resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:53-54, Paul clearly says we are mortal; it is we who are resurrected, not our bodies, our bodies return to dust.

    Some use 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 as saying it means when we die, we are absent from the body and present with the Lord. The question we should ask is when we will be absent from this body. If we are open, the Scriptures tell us that it is when we are resurrected, that happens when Jesus returns, we will be gathered unto Jesus here on earth, and we shall ever be with our Lord. We meet Him in the air, welcoming Him back. The Greek word translated meet is apantesis, meaning a going-out to greet an arriving, emphasizing their importance, stressing welcome, honor, and accompaniment.

    Thanks, brother,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Isa.66.7 Man child (1 of 4)

    " Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child"

    Soul is helpless as a child and signifies the Man component in the fellowship of God with Man. Evocative of the woman clothed with the Sun what travail has Zion to do with the labour. Zion is a destination which translating from the world unseen into the light the question of darkness has to be dealt with, and the emblem of the Lamb slain has to prepare a body which shall honour the Son as precious as he is in His sight. As Zechariah says his Son is his soul. "For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye." Israel is first conceived in his mind. So Law of the Spirit is not what is plucked out of thin air but the rest in which He takes delight. "Look upon Zion, the city of our solemnities: thine eyes shall see Jerusalem a quiet habitation, a tabernacle that shall not be taken down; not one of the stakes thereof shall ever be removed, neither shall any of the cords thereof be broken.(Zec.2.6; Isa.33.20)

    Jerusalem referred in the context is to them, "your brethren that hated you out and cast you out" refers to the darkness and Isaiah is defending apple of His eye so headdresses them in these words,"Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.(66.5). Isaiah refers to the enemies to Christ,'And they shall be ashamed.'

    It is thus Zion becomes the bone of contention between generation of Jesus Christ against the wicked and adulterous generation.

    "Before the pain came' explains the role faith has played. By the word of God the worlds were framed so the Covenant in seven days groups His tabernacle in heaven. The Man component in a believer signifies his soul, God's gift
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Amen Brothers Chris and Carleton!
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Dan.8.8 "Four winds of heaven"

    "the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven."

    The Spirit sets this narrative under the tag of the third year of Balshazzar as he sets the night vision in the preceding chapter in the first year of Balshazzar the king of Babylon. He tags ch.7 to indicate the four beasts emerging into the world stage according to the will of God the Father. So the four winds are whipping up an insubstantial similacrum, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.. Tag over chapter referred to the Father and the historical context of Hellenic culture beginning with Alexander the great is set in direct frame of refernce to the Son. The significance of the number Three never changes as in the case of four signifying the word of God is same east west ,north or south.

    The spheres of authority divided among four of his generals has a bearing on the times of Jesus. Herod whom he qualified as the fox ('Go ye, and tell that fox,-Lk.13.32) whose authority came from Rome. Greece gives way to Rome and it is thus nations play as with the nursery rhyme, ring a ring o'roses, we all fall down'. This scenario has never changed and the wicked shall make a circus of their pomp and circumstance as in our time while their feet are in mire like the Epstein files and chicanery. God shall show for what they are. In order to see it proper context we shall turn to Rev.13.1, to which we shall come anon.

    As with four winds we have God setting four angels charge over the waters.(Rev.9.13-14)

    Four refers to the word become flesh and five is Christ abiding in giving the soul of man. Now shall interprest what Jesus meant by 'great' tribulation.(Mt.24.21) The abiding presence from the wicked shall removed so "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." (9.5-6) The sign of Immanuel indicates soul of a believer. 'God among us'. Tabernacle of God Rev. 21.3
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Ps.73.12 "The wicked"

    "Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches."

    The Spirit uses 'behold' exclusively in terms of the Word addressing man with regards to the will of God. Ahaz was one such who was foolish. He sees the prosperity of the wicked like Rezin the king of Damascus as a blessing. Despite of best counsel of servants of God he is embarking on a disastrous course. And it is to him the prophet Isaiah is sent to preach the word. "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."(Isa.7.14) The word is a sound as well as a sign. This sign of the Word was with God is what soul of man, and the name aptly means 'God among us.' Gospel of St Matthew gives us this verse,"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. The Gospel begins with this 'The book of the generation of Jesus Christ." (Mt.1.1, 23). David's soul illustrates and he says,"until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation, and thy power to every one that is to come." (Ps.71.18) It is thus with generations after generation and what does Jesus call his generation? 'A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign.(Mt.16.4) Coming back to Ahaz he went ahead by seeking an unholy alliance with Tiglath-pileser, the king of Assyria, to the great injury of his kingdom and his own humilating subjection to the Assyrians.(2 Kgs.16.7)" For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. Their prosperity is corrupt as we learn from the history of Israel. In our times do nations prosper by making common cause with dictators without being swallowed? T|hey speak loftily./They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth."

    They also set their eyes with their space program. We have a warning fromm Obadiah.'thyself as the eagle'.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Dan.8.20-21 Kings and queens

    "The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia./And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king."

    Where the Spirit expressly names them we accept it as truth. They are are placed in the scripture for their historical value but for eliciting what their roles shall be in the divine Will. To us their importance is this: they are beasts to which the Spirit refers in the last book."And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."(Rev.17.11)

    Of these eight beasts we have allusion to one who was and who shall yet reemerge in another form overarch the entire generation of Jesus Christ, In Rev.ch.19 we see Jesus in the gospels not as was presented by four saints but as one who is the king of kings, The Word of God is shown in 19.19 fighting from both fronts so the unclean spirit Satan shall be taken and bound for a millennia at the end. This is what 'even he is the eight' refers. The beast shall make his final before the day of regeneration commences. "And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army."(19.19).

    The Spirit is not serving a narrative from POV of man but what shall serve as instruction in our righteousness. "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war." None of the wars man ever fought can be qualified as righteous since it only has added folly on folly. What evil does is evil double fold. So what does the angel from heaven say? "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities./Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double."(Rev.18.5-6;18.11)
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Indeed brother; how precious and special were the little children to Jesus, "for of such is the kingdom of heaven". The Name of Jesus must be lifted up to all, even the little ones. And unless people, lost in their sin, "become as little children" before God, they will be lost forever.

    Just as children with inquiring minds, without the trappings of the world to blind them, and child-like faith to receive the good & precious things of God, the men & women of this world would do well to learn from these little ones what their Creator requires of them so they too might hear and understand this life-saving, life-giving Gospel. And our God even gives us His Spirit to bring us to the end of ourselves and unto Himself, that we might ultimately know and proclaim, that "this is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes". Blessings to you brother.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Thank you brother Chris! Another way to think of mission, are children growing up within all the nations every day until the great day. Jesus does not want the children hindered in coming to him by our own understandings. I think we must always remember this.

    God bless you.

    Carleton
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Thanks 'Meek and seek' for restating your understanding of 2 Thessalonians 2:7,8. I think we generally agree on this passage, except of v8a, "And then shall that Wicked be revealed..". You believe that God restrains Himself until the time of ending the anti-Christ's reign; my understanding is the God restrains Himself until the appearing of the anti-Christ (i.e. when the restraining force is removed, then the anti-Christ ("that Wicked") shall be revealed. No one knows who this anti-Christ is, until God removes His restrainer so that he might be exposed & presented to the world to do the works of the Devil, eventually bringing his demise. I guess it's how we read this passage that causes our differences. So, I think we have exchanged our ideas well on this, so I will leave the discussion. Thanks again and every blessing.
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Great Scripture bro. Carleton. Of course, some would argue that the "Gospel of the Kingdom" was the Gospel preached to Israel and the Gentiles would receive the Gospel that proceeds from the Cross; but whatever our understanding on this is, this is where we are at: that the Gospel would reach the farthest parts of the globe that all may hear that there is a Savior who loves them and gave His Life for them and a waiting heavenly Father ready to receive all who believe on His Son. There are several missions today that are doing just that: reaching out to the unreached peoples of the Earth. They certainly need our prayers and support if we cannot go ourselves. "and then shall the end come"; may we not be ashamed at His coming by neglecting this final thrust unto a people who have never heard of Jesus. Blessings.
  • Benny Thomas - 7 months ago
    Mt.23.38 "Desolations"-1

    "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."(Mt.23.38)

    In Gen.1.2 the Spirit in presenting two sets of generations confirm the decree for his Son. Jesus during his ministry knew what he was up against. He pinpointed who their father was. Darkness would not go without applyinf cauterisation. Their whole body as Isaiah had foretold was sick from head to toe"Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint." Who was their father? "Ye are ofyourfather the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do"( Jn 8.44.Is.1.5)

    The Spirit is not tracing a linear narrative for the heir of all things and merely begins his sign that set him to begin his ministry."The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.""(Mt.4.16) When the Spirit refers to the 'great' light or to darkness it is an incontrovertible proof that the Spirit setting the v.2 of Gen.2. It is thus the house of Israel by rejecting the Son chose a murderer and insurrection called Barabbas. Jesus calling his own arrest to 'the hour of your power of darkness' is not a period of time according to earthly time but to the judgment set by the Law of the Spirit. Those names found therein belong to the generation of vipers. In the book of Daniel chapter 11 gives us several kings who by hook or crook came to power. These are all names set against the prince of life. When Jesus refers to the queen of the south she is standing in generation of Jesus Christ.(Mt.12.40) Faith determines whose side you are on. "Either you are with me or against me. (Mt.12.30) Reference of kings or queen are in terms of their faith.

    By disregaring the intent of the Spirit why God made the covenant with Man and significance of seven days we have heresies in full flow and know nothings seek imposter churches, to their shame instead of the spirit of truuth and the word.
  • Meek and seek - In Reply - 7 months ago
    I will repeat what I mean " only he who now letteth ( that is God as he chooses by his method) , to restrain himself until God chooses the time to End the reign of anti christ , verse 8 anti christ is eventually destroyed by the coming of Christ at Gods end of letting anti christ reign . It's kind of a repeating with a climax. That's the way I understand it . Because a Pretrib rapture does not fit at all . But the dead in Christ are raised at the first resurrection, that happens just prior to the Lords coming . Also Chris I made a mistake on a verse I thought was in Thessalonians, but it is in 2 Timothy 2 v 18 who concerning the truth have errored , saying that the resurrection is past already : and over throw the faith of some . This error was most likely working in Thessalonians as well , verse 2v2 That you be not soon shaken in mind , or be troubled , neither by spirit , nor by word , nor by letter as from us , as that the day of Christ is at hand . Paul is reassuring them the coming of Christ is future . Thanks Chris I appreciate your thoughts !
  • Carleton - In Reply - 7 months ago
    "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Matthew 24:14 KJV

    Amen.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Dan.9.26-27 "Desolations"

    Here we have two sets of verses Both are from the book of Daniel.

    "And the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined./And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate"(Dan.9.26-27) and

    "Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle"(Dan.11.10) Now we are looking at our times.

    POTUS declares he is against Bibi annexing the West Bank. Obviously Israel bombing his allies without his say-so rankles him and there shall be wedge between the two."And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause" Here the week is not concerned with God's holy city which is in heaven but the US policy unwritten by any law by presidents in the new millennium, much against their own national interests. The words 'he shall cause' refers to the tantrums of one, and he shall make it desolate refers to the mid-east' and it shall be now going according to the script."When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" (Mt.24.15)
  • Carleton - 7 months ago
    Christian Greetings! It is my belief that in the Great Day of the Lord, everything that we know will be changed to eternal from decay and any kind of transitory state. As things finished on this day are how they will remain in the changed earth and changed heavens. When Christ meets his own he will carry his love into the rest in his home in heaven.

    Love to you all, in Christ Jesus.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Meek and seek'

    Here is a simple answer for your question? Faith that all His promises are yea and Amen in his Son. Without me you can do nothing. Enter into the God's rest by believing God is ever faithful and He shall do it.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Job 38.25 Darkness-4

    "Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;"

    God's colloquy with Job shall explain why God divided light from darkness in Gen.1,3-4. And God saw the light, that it was good." God counseled Abram 'walk before me, and be thou perfect." because He was his exceeding great reward,"For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly."(84.11). Generation of Jesus Christ is perfect because his Son is their exceeding great reward,

    God sets a water course and it ran from Eden whch is fully secured. Even after the fall of man it runs and four river heads are angels guarding the water course. "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."( Jn 7.38;Gen.2.10-14)) Jesus promises us access to it. "There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God,"(Ps.46.4) Even after the expulsion of man God sets cherubim,'and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life', and it refers to the valley fully secured by ministering spirits for heirs of salvation.(Heb.1.14; Gen.3.24) In contrast what do wind in the vision of Dry Bones? "and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry."(Ezek.37.2) It refers to the generation fallen under darkness. Without Christ the head they are to be cat into the outer darkness." and thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me."(Ps.18.43) There will be only one King of King, the Word of God and David shall be 'my servant' as in "And David my servant shall be king over them."(Ezek.37.24)

    We have 'a way for the lightning of thunder' in the Son of man,"For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.."(Mt.24.27)
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Job.38.15 "Darkness"-3

    "And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken."

    Old bromide translates it 'pride goes before a fall.' It is the high arm of Lucifer who said,"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High./Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.(Isa.14.14-15)"This high arm is as ure as was broken that we read the beast bears the scar as he makes his entry. St John notes it,"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed."(Rev.13.3) It is thus we see the sons of perdition therefater bear the mutant gene, a moral flaw in many cases, fatal so David shall be entangled with its foul consequence. His own dynasty would not survive. He was anointed king because he belongd to the nation of Israel had rejected the king God had chosen for them. However he was set down as the double for Jesus Christ.. The Spirit however presents two generations, generation of Jesus Christ on one part and in the gospel we read that Jesus Christ as the son of Abraham and the son of David. Their personal choices and faith brings into the inheritance of the children of light. God had set the foundations of the earth to his holiness so the malefactor on the cross finf grace while king Saul anointed of God failed."For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion."(Rom.9.15)

    God sends the wicked a strng delusion and they are caught in it. "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;/Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them./For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

    " (Rom.1.18-20)
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Rev.12.3 "Darkness-2

    "And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads." The number seven sets the unclean spirit as the Lawless, opposing everything the Law of the Spirit upholds as Holy unto the Lord God almighty. But Gpd has set his ways of old unfathomable. Wisdom is too high for the wickeed. "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old," and "When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:/When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:/When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth." (Prov.8,22;27-29)

    God asked Job,"Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof?" Darkness does not know and least of all the king of darkness.

    So what are the seven heads of the red dragon? For instance the red colour stamps him as an unclean spirit that goads the wicked to rule by 'might is right'. This mantra has been in the heart of every king or President who would rule , "And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.' and his wars deliver nothing whatsoever. Did Vietnam war or war on terror achieve anything as the wicked men announced in their arrogance? So rule by might is one ideology so is oligarch. The absurdity of the wicked is given seven heads; and seven crowns similarly adds misery famine,sets vagabonds of princes and paupers alike.It is thus darkness covered upon the face of the deep. Lack of wisdom is the heart of darkness. Whereas Jesus Christ who of God has become wisdom to us. If earth is teied to seven foundations, with them God shall upend the plans of wicked, "That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it
  • Joseph - 7 months ago
    If we are saved' then we are in a better position !
  • Joseph - In Reply - 7 months ago
    What was joseph's brothers occupation?
  • Meek and seek - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Ronald that is close to my understanding, Jesus also said he would raise up believers on the last day , and he was the resurrection, this does happen at His coming . I'm sure much more could be said on the subject . There is a wide difference on this subject , that seemed to start with JN Darby , it also includes a strange dispensational doctrine , made to fit the pretrib rapture theory. This doctrine split the church in Darby s time and became popular because it's so easy to except . But remember Jesus said broad and easy is the way that leads to destruction. So much more could be said on this very important belief, because we need to be prepared for what's up ahead , not an easy escape. That would be my choice too , but I seek the truth . The gates of hell will not prevail over Christ s church . Amen !
  • Cameronmartin24 - 7 months ago
    TRUE BIBLICAL PRAYER:

    1. Is relational, not ritualistic.

    2. Goes directly to Jesus

    3. Pure motives.

    4. Blesses, never curses.

    5. Trust God's word not supernatural shortcuts

    6. Seeks God's kingdom , not selfish gain

    Bless you in the name of Christ Jesus Our LORD
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Page 2. Meek and seek.

    But the whole reading is that the restrainer is taken away, as we read in the following verses 7-12, "..only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. AND THEN shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders".

    It clearly tells us that after the restrainer is removed, the Wicked (the anti-Christ) will appear who does the work of Satan, whom Jesus will destroy. If the restrainer is the anti-Christ and is the one removed, then to whom do verses 8-10 apply? Who is the Wicked mentioned, whose work is of Satan with his power, signs & wonders? Paul's writing in sequence does not allow for another interpretation of this restraining force. Though, there could be reasonable arguments whether the restrainer is the Holy Spirit or earthly agencies God uses to hold back this coming tide of evil. For your further consideration.
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Thanks Meek and seek for your reply. I agree that the point of the apostle's discussion on these misunderstandings by the Church (in both his letters to the Church there) is about the deceased believers missing out on the resurrection ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13), and that the Day of Christ had come ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1,2).

    In the first passage I quoted, Paul's teaching was that the spirits of the deceased believers were already in Heaven and that at His Coming, Jesus would bring them with Him and their bodies buried in the earth would join with their spirits. So the believers should be assured that God had not forgotten those who were in their graves at His Coming, since they were very much alive with Him & together would join with those living believers on Earth. At least, that is how I read that passage.

    Then in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, where the believers believed that the Day of Christ had already come & somehow had missed that event, or maybe it was all a lie. Paul assures them that the Day of Christ (or when Christ appears) & "our gathering together unto him" (i.e. the Rapture of Paul's first letter) will not happen until there is a great 'falling away & revealing of the man of sin'.

    And then Paul goes on to elaborate on this 'man of sin', the anti-Christ who presents himself as God & demands worship. But he hasn't appeared on the scene as yet because God has set a restrainer to prevent him coming to power. But when that restrainer is removed, then the beginning of great Tribulation begins, primarily to Israel I suspect (according to Jesus' teachings in the Gospels). But you ask, "who is taken away? The anti Christ". Onto Page 2.
  • George M. - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Too 'blissed' just now, but

    Amos 5:18

    King James Version (KJV) Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.

    ?
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Two modifications in para two and para three:

    para 2:

    "When God commands these foundations are tried to His holiness." as

    "When God commands these foundations are tied to His holiness."

    para 3:

    "Three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish gives the death and resurrection of the Son sets the prophet belonging to the generation Jesus Christ a common point of reference."

    please read as

    "Three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish gives the death and resurrection of the Son sets the prophet belonging to his generation a common point of reference."
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hello Meek and seek,

    I agree, when Jesus returns, it will not be a secret, as all the Scriptures proclaim, it will be with the sound of the trumpet, the last trumpet, 1 Corinthians 15:52, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Revelation 11:15. As you said, every eye shall see Him coming in the clouds, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 19:11-16.

    The resurrection of the righteous, which is the first resurrection, will happen at Christ's return, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 20:4-6. Scripture does not say Jesus goes back to heaven. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Paul is comforting them that those who are asleep/dead in Christ would not be left out of the return of Christ and the resurrection. Nowhere in these verses does it say we are taken to heaven.

    If we read and study Scriptures with preconceived assumptions, it fogs the truth. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 is about the return of Jesus and our gathering together unto Him on earth, at His coming. It says do not let man deceive you because Jesus will not return until two things happen. The falling away/apostasy, and the man of sin is revealed.

    Revelation 19:20 is where the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. In Revelation 17:14, they are the ones in the first resurrection who are in the battle of Armageddon with Jesus, and in Revelation 20:4 are the ones in the first resurrection who are being judged at the judgment seat of Christ, here on earth.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Gen.1.2 "Darkness" (1 of 4)

    Darkness was upon the face of the deep"

    The Spirit is presenting the generation of Jesus Christ against generations and generations of man but the earth abides forever. It is essential to know that the earth is not what the earth with geological time impressed within so truth of body and the Spirit are never misplaced. In short there is no such thing as science claim of information paradox.

    God asks Job out of a whirlwind,"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.?" The Law of the Spirit is the unity of the Spirit. When God commands these foundations are tried to His holiness.(38.4-6) Elsewhere in the book of Job he asks,"Whence then cometh wisdom? and where is the place of understanding?" Who shall answer? ""The depth saith, It is not in me: and the sea saith, It is not with me."(28.14,20)

    In the heart of the earth we shall look for a piece of the puzzle. Three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish gives the death and resurrection of the Son sets the prophet belonging to the generation Jesus Christ a common point of reference. "For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me."( Jonah 2.3) We shall begin with the cry on the cross,"In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears." and "He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet."(Ps.18.6-9;22.1)

    Darkness is under his feet while face of the Son connects his Father with the word. The same psalms gives us the role prince David shall play when the new earth is ushered. We are looking at the outer darkness. ""Thou hast delivered me from the strivings of the people; and thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me."(18.43-47)
  • Gerald - 7 months ago
    Human rights : Let me say for the record they are but Godless and vain assertions.

    Man has said " We don't do God" He always disagrees with us let us all agree as to what is good and what is evil and there will be peace .

    The first commandment of humanism is ' Man has the right to life'.

    The second is probably ' After me you can go first'.

    We have exchanged our liberties for bondage .

    For that bill of human rights whatever form it takes will not cannot does not nor eve;should preserve us.

    When the British PM held up that s rap if paper and said " I have here the signature of heir Hitler and mine and we have agreed there will be peace .." and on the foundation of that bit of paper it was declared to the world ." Peace in our time!"

    How wrong was it possible to be than that@? For within one short year the whole world was lunged into WW2 Europe set ablaze and subjugated under the Nazi boot and the UK was once again fior our lives in defence of this nations true liberties and I doing so preserved 7nder God the worlds .

    "Peace peace peace say the wicked then comes sudden destruction "

    To its shame thecUK Parliament is debating a euthanasia bill .

    If it passes this country has simply by those two bills put lufe and death into the hands of Godless men and women who think by their corrupt and perverted ideas of democracy the truth is whatever they say it is.


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