Discuss Jeremiah 31 Page 2

  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you brother S. Spencer for those very pertinent Scriptures relating to the subject at hand. They indeed show the total inadequacy of the Old Law to both save or to gain God's Favor. And if may add, that this time-bound Old Law given to Israel was even revealed in the OT, where there should have been an expectation in Israel that 'something better' was yet to come from the God of Israel.

    We can also look at Jeremiah 31:31-33, "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers....After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people." And this Scripture is referred to in Hebrews 8:6-13.

    There was nothing wrong with the words of the old Law; it simply pointed to their inability to keep it & to the coming Messiah Who could keep it perfectly thus fulfilling it - and through His Death & Resurrection, ushered in God's New Covenant "making the first old - ready to vanish away". And vanish it did, through the Blood of this Everlasting Covenant. Maybe, we should focus our thoughts on how the Holy Spirit given to us, enables us to obey ALL of God's Commandments, not by the letter, but in very specific guidance & provokings in our hearts, as the child of God allows the Spirit to fill his life completely. When we do trust in the Holy Spirit to do this, then there would be no need for recourse to the Law that only brought death.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Brother Chris.

    I agree 100% what you have said that OT Israel knew nothing of a coming Messiah's Sacrifice of His Life for them & substitutionary payment. Hence, the word 'Gospel' mentioned in Hebrews 4 is not the same Gospel they received as is the complete Gospel that the Apostles preached post-Cross. (Perhaps not in the way it is preached in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

    I believe the OT saints did what was required of them at that time to make them just with God. Their temporal rituals and sacrifices exemplified the Gospel and perhaps the resurrection was preached by "type" when Issac was offered as a sacrifice by Abraham. Hebrews 11:17-19.

    However, could they have perceived it, being that Jeremiah 31:31-34 have not taken place yet?

    When we study Hebrews in its entirety, we know that this new covenant was not to come under the Levitical covenant. This is clearly seen in Hebrews Ch 7 and 8.

    So, when we look back at this, Israel mind was blinded and there was a veil upon their hearts, as mentioned in 2 Corinthians 3:14-16. "But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the Old Testament, which vail is done away in Christ.

    But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

    Nevertheless when "it" shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. (The "it" mentioned here is their hearts.)

    When Israel turns their hearts to God the veil and the blindness shall be taken away.

    This is what Paul is saying in Romans 11.

    Israel was incapable of receiving the revelation of the Gospel under the Levitical High Priest and if you study the Gospels carefully, neither could the Apostles until the death of the one that filled the role of the Levitical Priesthood at the Cross.

    (I believe this is what John's baptism was all about)

    The resurrection began the new covenant under the new Priest hood. ( Hebrews 7:15-16.)

    Now Christ faith in them will give them rest.

    Thats future for them as a Nation
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thy Kingdom Come:

    Part 5.

    Millennium Paradoxes

    As an example of some of the ostensible paradoxes of the Millennium is the strange question of death. Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, a dear friend and highly respected Messianic scholar, suggests that death in the Millennium will be for unbelievers only. Nowhere in the Bible does it speak of a resurrection of Millennial saints. This may be why the resurrection of the tribulation saints is said to complete the "first resurrection" ( Rev 20:4-6).

    From the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34, it would seem that there will be no Jewish unbelievers in the kingdom; all Jews born during the Millennium will accept the Messiah before their 100th year.6 Unbelief would thus be among the Gentiles only, and therefore, death would exist only among the Gentiles.7 [ Jer 31:35-37 refutes "Reconstructionism" and similar heresies.] Another strange issue is the prominence of sacrifices in the Millennium. It would seem that they are memorials after the fact, just as the sacrifices in the Old Testament were memorials in advance.8

    A Time to Study

    As recent events have so dramatically emphasized to all of us, it is, indeed, a time to reexamine our perspectives, and to acknowledge in our personal priorities that history includes some shocking "non-linearities": even our most cherished presumptions are subject to cataclysmic challenges! It is time to refresh our understanding from the bedrock of Scripture and to recognize the urgency of the times. I believe we are rapidly being plunged into a period of time about which the Bible says more than it does about any other period of time in history - including the time that Jesus walked the shores of Galilee and climbed the mountains of Judea!

    Interesting study by the late Chuck Missler.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    David and Gigi.

    Gigi

    You stated, "The promise of the physical land to Abraham and the Israelites was a shadow pointing to the heavenly land of promise, the New heavens and new earth.

    The Kingdom here on earth is ushered in after the tribulation. It's an everlasting Kingdom with Satan being chained 1000 years, After Satan is released there will be a final rebellion and the inhabitants/Earth dwellers will war against God!

    Gigi, if the New heavens and new earth is the Millenium, Are you saying that war is in heaven? The new Jerusalem doesn't come down until after Judgment, and then a new heaven and new earth!

    It's has been a lot of jumping around on this topic by you.

    I've seen several view changes on this topic, from the kingdom is in heaven, The kingdom is on earth, It's in your heart ect.

    David.

    Let's go over my post you replied to, Here's the context: Me- He's going to restore them right here on earth and fulfil the promises to Abraham.

    Jeremiah 23:5-6.

    Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice IN THE EARTH.

    Jeremiah 31:10

    Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. (Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off)

    HE WANTS THE NATIONS TO SEE IT AND DECLARE IT AFAR OFF! THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE HERE ON EARTH.

    The basis of your reply.

    God speaks in Parables.

    When God uses the term "Israel" or "Judah" or "Jerusalem" He can be talking about the corporate body (National Israel or the New Testament Church) or ALL True Believers (the Elect of God.

    David when God is talking about bring a people back to their own Land, he's talking about a people that had one and was removed out of it.

    See Part 3.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Jharvey.

    I concur with Brother Chris.

    God is going to give Israel a heart of flesh.

    He's going to restore them right here on earth and fulfil the promises to Abraham.

    Jeremiah 23:5-6.

    Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice IN THE EARTH.

    In his days JUDAH SHALL BE SAVED, AND ISRAEL SHALL DWELL SAFELY: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    And God wants the world to see it!!

    Jeremiah 31:10.

    Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

    He does this for his name sake!

    Ezekiel 36:22-27.

    Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

    And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

    For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land... ( This will be done on earth! There's no heathens in heaven! )

    Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

    A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Jharveys. I'll share very generally on the passage you quoted.

    The chapters 30 to 33 in Jeremiah are God's Words to His people (Israel & Judah) giving them His Promise & certain hope for their future restoration back to their lands. Some consider these chapters as applying to their recovery from the Assyrian & Babylonian captivity (in which they were in at the time), but verses such as Jeremiah 30:3,7,10,11 & others seem to indicate that all of Israel will return to their land of promise, & not just the 'few' who came out of the present captivity. The mention of the 'terrible day, none ever like it, even the time of Jacob's trouble, but Israel will come out of it', indicates that there is still salvation & hope for Israel even after going through the coming time of Great Tribulation.

    Then chapter 31 continues this theme of restoration for Israel; with verses 1 to 22 concerning the Northern Kingdom (Israel); verses 23 to 26 the Southern Kingdom (Judah); and verses 27 to 40 to both Kingdoms.

    So to Jeremiah 31:23-34 (your passage), the message is first to Judah & then God establishes His New Covenant with both houses (from verse 27). To Judah, God tells them that they will know His blessing on Jerusalem (Mt. Zion) where justice & holiness abounds (v23); & the people will thrive in food production (vv24,25). And so to, the New Covenant which still awaits enforcement, vv27-34 and other verses beyond, gives God's Assurance that both man & animals will abound, that He will prosper them & not afflict & destroy them as before, & they will realize that each one is accountable & punishable for their own sins & not blame their fathers (the meaning of verses 29 & 30). That future day, Israel will have God's Laws written upon their hearts (v33), i.e. they will be changed inwardly & not just giving lip-service as previously and all will truly know intimately their God & not a conditional-based Covenant of the old Mosaic Law. Hope that gives you an adequate outline.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Jerry.

    When asked that question in Scripture it seems God answers back with one of his many names. like he does when Paul asks in Acts 9:5.

    Paul asked Who art thou, Lord? "kurios" (supreme in authority that is (as noun) controller; by implication Mr . (as a respectful title): - God Lord master Sir.)

    The Lord answered him simply, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

    There are several names for the one and only true God.

    Each of the many names of God describes a different aspect of His many-faceted character. Here are some of the better-known names of God in the Bible:

    I've looked up some of those names; Here they are.

    Part 1.

    EL, ELOAH [el, el-oh-ah]: God "mighty, strong, prominent" ( Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 139:19) - etymologically, El appears to mean "power" and "might" ( Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity ( Numbers 23:19), jealousy ( Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion ( Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of "might" remains.

    ELOHIM [el-oh-heem]: God "Creator, Mighty and Strong" ( Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) - the plural form of Eloah, which accommodates the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible's first sentence, the superlative nature of God's power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence ( Genesis 1:1).

    EL SHADDAI [el-shah-dahy]: "God Almighty," "The Mighty One of Jacob" ( Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) - speaks to God's ultimate power over all.

    ADONAI [dna; ah-daw-nahy]: "Lord" ( Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) - used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God's dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.

    See Part 2.
  • [email protected] - 2 years ago
    Would like any comments or insite on n Jeremiah 31:23-34.
  • Alex7 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alan Matthew 13:25....While men slept an enemy came and sowed Tares among the WHEAT.....So the good seed is the WHEAT....As the word of God, that good seed is the bread from Heaven....There is a hidden manna involved.....The very reason the sower goes forth to sow his seed is that he might be multiplied as the stars of heaven.....That was the great Promise that Christ might be mutiplied as the stars of heaven.....Thus the sower and his seed.....Thus the wheat is a baby Christ simply b/c its Christ the bridegroom that is sowing his seed in humanity.....Thats y he has to know us....If he does not know us there will be no fruit which is a baby Christ.....Which is the H.G. the Child of Promise.....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME....As Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit.....Thats the H.G. that is gonna be born in us via his good seed the living word.....Thats y Peter is saying being bornagain of an incorruptible even by the words of God.....We have to birth a new Creature via his good seed the word......Alan there is only 1 quota for the good fruit.....If I be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me.....ALL MEN.....And no man can come unto me unless it is given to them of my father.....Which is the father's new covenant Jeremiah 31:34.....I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest.....Alan ya gotta keep in mind that the sower of that good seed is Christ the bridegroom.....That y he wants to know us.....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations.....Jesus is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven.....Thus the sower and his precious seed the bridegroom's seed thus a baby Christ.....Thats y he is saying blessed are them that follow me in the REGENERATION.....He is gonna multiply/regenerate himself in humanity via his good seed...Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains.... Jeremiah 30:6 kjv.....The Child is the H.G. THAT Promise Child.....Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris, 'page 2 & 3;

    "you don't know why I would bring up this matter, as it pertains to our discussion. When in Truth, it reaches to the very heart of it.

    Going to the letter, in Hebrew or Greek etc; as you quoted & spoke from, comes from the traditions & teaching of man, the wisdom that's from below, earthy, which makes Mark 7:13, which sprang up in the Apostasy. Isa 55:8,9;

    Whereas coming to the Spirit, our Teacher; The Word Rom 10:8; that comes Rom 10:17; within us, produces the fruit, the Word intended Isa 55;11; Isa 14:27;

    Bringing this part of the conversation to a conclusion, by giving "the cause & effect of the learning from the letter, verses being taught by God Himself.

    1Cor 2:10 which is freely & lavishly given unto us in Christ. Col 2:2,3; Proverbs 8:14;

    You said; you don't subscribe to this type of application of sanctification ; citing verses with the word meaning; its plain to me that your faith is coming from books, & not our Teacher; who is Hebrews 12:2. Your trying to understand spiritual things by carnal means, Thus this faith you have is 2Timothy 3:7 Meaning; it will never bring one to the experiential knowledge of God; in Spirit & in Truth. Matt 11:27; For God is a Spirit & only by His Spirit is He manifested & known.

    Jeremiah 31:33,34; New Covenant, he's prophesying, not that he partook of it, 1Peter 1:10; & yet he was cleansed & holy under the gospel of his dispensation 2 Peter 1:21; as many were Luke 1:5,6;

    Again; what God requires of us, is to walk upright in the knowledge that He has given us.

    Thank you for your kind apology, no offense taken, just a misunderstanding. Believe me, in this slow progressive work of sanctification, I've have had many misunderstanding & faltering, receiving His reproofs & admonishments, I've learnt Daniel 4:37; I love the way He gets to me. He always "hit the nail on the head" so to speak,& why? Daniel 2:22, Psalms 36:9;

    you have experience Him in Spirit, Chris (in the car)

    in Love & Truth

    Frankie J
  • Alex6 - 2 years ago
    This new covenant is NOT like the old covenant..... Jeremiah 31:34.....I will make a new covenant NOT ACCORDING to the old covenant....With the house of Israel and Judah......But this New Covenant was addressed to the Gentiles also.....If ya be in Christ Jesus then are you ABRAHAMS SEED....Gal.3:29.....And heirs according to the Promise....That PROMISE of multiplication of Christ seed.....The field being the world.....God so loved the world.....Thus all inclusive of all sinners.....If i be lifted up ( the blood of the new covenant) i will draw all men unto me.....But this New Covenant is dependent on a heavenly birth.....A Child has to be born in us which is the H.G. that Child of Promise....Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail n birth pains J 30:6

    ......There was a Child involved in the O.C which was Isaac whom they refered to as the Child of Promise.....But under this new Covenant the Child is a heavenly Child the H.G.....Which is the Child of Promise.....1 Cor.15:49.....As we have borne the image of the earthly we must also bear the image of the heavenly which is the H.G. the child of Promise.....Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me....Thus the need for the sower and his precious seed to be sown in our hearts.....Initiating a heavenly Birth....Thats y he has to know us.....That his good seed the living word might be sown in our hearts resulting in a spritual pregnancy which is FAITH ....The substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.....Which is the Child of Promise.....The H.G. as that which is born of the spirit is spirit the H.G.....Our new heart and new spirit that new Creature.... Rev. 12 :10...Plz note the Kingdom nor any Salvation comes till the woman gives birth.....Our new birth our good fruit ....Unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.....Under the O.C. there was a nation of Israel and under the N.C. Comes another Israel they are HEAVENLY..The H.G. AN Israel of God..GB
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Page 2.

    Even in Jeremiah 31:33,34, God hasn't cleansed them yet & "remembered their sin no more". That is still future Israel turns to the Lord & the sins of the past are indeed forgiven & forgotten, as He graciously deals with us today.

    For the greater part of your pages 2 & 3, I'm unsure why you presented that with what we're discussing, so unsure how to deal with it. Was it primarily about considering what the original languages & their meanings/applications are to the Scriptures? That is, going deep into the Word or hearing from the Spirit?

    And yes, Romans 14:23 is a great definition of what sin is, which of course would need examination to learn how the working of one's faith in relation to sin brings about either victory or defeat. And I would add, it is both the working of faith & of the Spirit that the believer engages with when confronted with sin; without the Spirit's Power defeat is certain. GBU
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 2 years ago
    3 of 3

    OT promises, Isa 54:13 Jeremiah 31:33-34; confirmed in NT, Hebrews 8: 10,11,12; why is it that God doesn't remember their sins? Because He has cleanse them of all unrighteousness & has endue them with His Spirit & they sin no more. Jeremiah 32:39-41; The cause & effect of God teaching us Himself, & that by His Spirit John 14:13,14,15; with all His Heart & all His Soul; says the LORD, Selah.

    Consider; it was not until the 14th or 15th century that these things became widely available, & then it was only to the learned & privilege. The Apostasy that the Apostles spoke of was already at work in their day & came into full maturity with the Roman Catholic's Rev17:2 for then the world was Rome. Daniel 2:40

    Who taught Moses, etc; even Jesus John 7:15; the disciples etc; one educated, Paul & he Philippians 3:7,8,9,10; he relied on Philippians 1:19; What about all the people in time that didn't get a chance to learn how to read or were in the remote regions of the earth were the Scriptures were unavailable? Or hear the Good New being preach in the power of the Holy Ghost? His words are, "from the least to the greatest". His Spirit is able to reach them to the uttermost, even the blind, deaf, dumb-mentally, etc; Jeremiah 32:27;

    Chris, everyone; consider these things. God is just, He's not going to condemn someone for something they did not know. Rom 1:17, which comes by Rom 10:17; which is in Rom 10:8; continue Rom 1:19; & that by His 1Cor 2:10; He's that Light that admonish you in the car, follow Him & He will lead ALL that do to the Father. He's the Treasure 2Cor 4:7 that's opens our understanding to the knowledge & the glory of God, it's the face of Jesus Christ.

    You ask what define as sin? Rom 14:23;

    In Love & Truth

    Frankie J
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris,

    Here are my comments on the scripture you presented.

    Jeremiah 31:33: God will put his Laws in our heart and minds. These would be the same 10 Commandments/Laws as well as the additional emphasis on those commands that Jesus added along with the additional Love your nieghbor command. John 13:34

    "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

    Ecclesiastes 12:13: I think we agree for the most part that Gentiles have in fact received God's laws by by accepting the Gospel of Jesus Christ and becoming heirs of Abraham, and not only the original 10 but also the additional more comprehensive laws as discussed and clarified by Christ.

    Mark 2:27: Yes, Jesus was talking to the Jews/Pharisees about the Sabbath, but now that we are Heirs of Abraham these laws also apply to us. I know we differ on this, but this is my belief based on scripture. Jesus was also talking to the Jews about the Gospel of the Kingdom but then gave it to the rest of the world, so all that believe become the heirs of Abraham/Israel.

    And Revelation chapter 22: I agree that this Chapter is Jesus speaking to John, but I believe that Jesus is speaking of all the Commandments including His, and His Fathers - not just Jesus commandments that you referred. Also, hoping we both agree that Jesus is God and so then when Jesus states commandments - He is referring to all Commandments. I also do agree it is His Spirit that promotes us to willfully follow His commandments.

    Regarding Romans 8:1-4 I'll reiterate the same comments I made to Giannis above. I agree that if we are Saved/Reborn Christians living our lives in conjunction with God's Holy Sprit that indeed is sufficient to receive salvation per the scripture. Very important: If, we are living by the Sprit we will be embracing God's/Jesus Commandments as the Spirit will certainly be directing us to do so, via God writing His laws in our body and mind.

    GBU
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks Bro. Dan for re-posting that previous comment. Looking at it more closely, these are my observances/responses.

    Jeremiah 31:33: this is a new covenant with Israel that the LORD makes, where His Commandments are no longer on a tablet of stone but His Laws written upon their hearts. How does the LORD do this? Is it the same Ten Commandments now impressed deeply in their hearts or by the aid of the Spirit, enabling Israel to know ALL of His Commandments & have the power to obey them, which they didn't have before & with their eyes darkened? Romans 11:7-11.

    Ecclesiastes 12:13: the Preacher writes about fearing God & keeping His Commandments. "Man" here must apply to Israel, since the Gentiles had never received any of God's Laws. But when the Gentiles did receive Christ (post Crucifixion/Ascension), learned of His Laws & subsequently received His Spirit, then yes, to fear God & keep His Commandments meant all of God's Commandments which included far more than the Ten: 'the Law of (from) the Spirit'; that 'which frees man from the Law of sin & death' (the Ten Commandments).

    Mark 2:27: I see here that Jesus was talking with some Pharisees about the Sabbath. The Sabbath Day was given only to Israel, which has to be the 'man' spoken of. The Sabbath was never given to the Gentiles (Romans, Greeks, Syrians, Egyptians) who were living there at that time; at least we're not told whether they were required to observe the Sabbath Day when it came around.

    And Revelation chapter 22: this whole chapter is about Jesus' Words with John. So 'his commandments' must refer to Jesus' Commandments & hence the right to the tree of life. Thus His Spirit gives us all we need to know & obey; it is by Christ's Blood & obedience to His Spirit that we 'gain entrance into the city', never by the Decalogue.

    As well, I wrote a little to you on Romans 8:1-4, asking for your comment, if you so wish, as this passage is critical to understanding the Church's position with the Law. GBU
  • Pierre1939 - 2 years ago
    Hello Guys no offence.....But there is no Salvation or kingdom of God till the woman gives birth...In Rev. 12:10....And i heard a loud voice from heaven saying NOW NOW is come Salvation and strength and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ ( the Womans Child ) For the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which assused them before our God day and night and they over came him by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony....

    This is y Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.....Which is the New Birth of Christ in us.....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations....And her Child was caught up to God and to his Throne.....If we don't bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G....The Child of PROMISE...We will not enter the Kingdom of God,

    This Child of Promise is gonna be born in us that hears his words his good seeds.....Who is my Mother and brethren them that hears my words and keeps them...Today if you will hear his voice (his good seed) harden not your hearts...Thats what Faith is a spiritual pregnancy.....B/c of his seeds the words of the book...That New Covenant in his blood at Calvary the living word....The Child is the H.G. and is alive...And is in essence Christ in us.....This New Covenant is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of a Child in everyone... Jeremiah 31:34 I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest....This knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.... Isaiah 11:9.....There will be no more seas of humanity that have not been washed in his blood....I will stain ALL MY RAIMENT....Tho your sins be as scarlet they shall be white as snow....As there is no fuller on this earth that can whiten us like his blood.....Its only the manchild the H.G. that spirit of truth that can reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....Thats y Jesus mentions the babes and sucklings an Israel of God on th Horizon.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jema

    How did Abraham, Issac, Rebecca, Jacob or Job & many more come to the personal experiential knowledge of God? Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. God Spirit is not limited in how He reveals Himself to mankind, dreams, visions, etc, the Scripture are full of them, but all by the operations & administration of His Spirit. God promise in Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people, Heb 8:10 quotes this, the wording is ( I ) will put My laws into their inward parts. He doeth the work, cause us to will & do of His good pleasure, & this is by His Spirit operations upon our hearts. Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

    15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

    its plainly written the Gentiles ,which have not the law, which was the gospel of that dispensation. God put His laws within their hearts, & taught them Himself by His Spirit. These things were written for our example, He does the same today!

    I encourage you to reread the Scriptures, the honoring of them in there proper place, is truly the benefit & enjoyment of them.

    He that has ears to hear, let him hear what the Spirit has to say:
  • Pierre1939 - 2 years ago
    Plz note the woman in Rev.12:5 had to birth a Child which is the H.G. to lead her into the Kingdom....When he the Spirit of truth is come he will lead you into all truth (the kingdom).....But he cannot speak of himself simply b/c he is just an infant that new born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word...Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil CHILD impling that heavenly birth a spiritual birth.....As that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. the Child of PROMISE....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me...ME....Thats how he will come again by the new birth....We are gona have a baby Christ....Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of Man....Mankind is gona be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7:4....But Satan the dragon wants to destroy the woman and her children....Which are the Children of PROMISE....The multiplication of Christ in humanity via his precious seed the living word which is the contents of the book of life.... Jeremiah 30:6 saw all men in travail and birth pains....Which is that New Covenant that he wrote with his own blood at Calvary.... Jeremiah 31:34 I will KNOW them all from the least to the greatest and their sins and iniquities will i remember no more.

    Behold me and the Children the lord has given me are they not for signs and wonders to the Children of Israel....They are an Israel of GOD.....Children that cannot lie so Jesus is their father....Simply b/c they are gona be born in us via his Precious seed....That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Thus the sower/bridegroom and his seed....The wheat is a baby Christ....Simply b/c Christ is the bridegroom....Jesus said that the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom..... Psalms 8:2 For out of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise that thou mightest still the enemy....Our carnal minds satans seat....Thus the babes and sucklings he mentions...Our New BORN.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    David0921 God spoke to Peter and Paul without a bible....Jesus told Peter flesh and blood Has not revealed it unto you but my Father in heaven which is the living word....And God spoke to Paul without a bible on the road to Damascus....Today if you will hear his voice harden not your hearts....Its only Jesus that has the words of life....Peter said to whom shall we go lord thou has the words of Eternal life....Thats y Jesus had to die to bring in a new covenant that wd put Christ in the hearts of all men....If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....I will know them all from the least to the greatest and they shall no more teach know the lord for they shall all know me from the least to the greatest Jeremiah 31:31...And they shall all be taught of God....Not by a bible but by God himself....David God wants to speak to mans hearts by his Spirit...I will give them a new heart and a new spirit....Not a new bible with the Words of man....As Peter is saying being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God THAT LIVETH AND ABIDETH FOR EVER....LIVING WORDS NOT WRITTEN WORD....Which is that book of life in the fathers right hand

    By my spirit saith the lord....Which is that New Covenant....The letter is a killer but its the spirit that is a life giving force....Our husband is a living being which is the gift of God the H.G.....Not the bible which is paper and ink...The letter.....We do not wanna be married to paper and ink but to spirit and life....We cannot bring forth fruit unto God by reading a bible....Its gona come via the seed of our husband which is a living seed...Thats y he has to know us.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    David you don't seem to understand that God is greater then a bible... Gal 3:8 the gospel was preached to Abraham before there was a bible... simply b/c the words of our lord are spirit and life...Not paper and ink....Before Abraham was i am thus it was Jesus who preached to Abraham....I am not saying that we don't need the bible....I am just saying that this New Covenant at Calvary is greater then a bible..paper and ink....Which is the gift of the H.G. the Anointing is all we need to teach us.... 1st John 2:27...You need no man teach you....The Anointing you have received of him abides in you and he will teach you all things...Which is the H.G. the gift of God the living word....David its only Jesus the Living Word that has the words of life as Peter said to whom shall we go Lord thou has the words of eternal life....The bible per se does not have the words of life....If it did then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness...Ya see what i am saying....It was God himself that added words to the bible...with his New Covenant... Jeremiah 31:31...Somebody has brain washed you David....If the bible cd have redeemed mankind with its words then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness....Its the N.C. at Calvary that has redeemed us back to God not the bible the written words....There is another book involved in our salvation which is that book in the right hand of the father that Jesus wrote with his own blood....Which is that book of life,...Whosoever was not found written in this book of life was cast into the lake of fire.....Which is that baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE....As our God is a consuming fire....Remember Jesus tells us he came to bring fire on the earth.....Which is the H.G. FIRE....And its the H.G. that is a living being that has to be born in us....As that which is born of the spirit is spirit the H.G. the gift of God...Let us focus on that book of life Jesus wrote with his own blood at Calvary....The new covenant.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hiya Milton....I cannot see how there cd be a physical or literal rapture....When dozens of scriptures speak of the Kingdoms of this WORLD becoming the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever....Rev.11:15 is just 1 of them...John said he was in the spirit on the lords day...But his body went no where.... Rev. 5:10....He has made us unto our God kings and Priests that we shall reign on the Earth....And God sends an angel to preach the everlasting Gospel to all that dwell on the Earth.. Rev. 14:6.....And Sends the manchild that spirit of truth which is the H.G. to rule all nations with a rod of iron...Which is the word of God that cannot be broken..That New Covenant that Jesus wrote WITH his own blood at Calvary....There is absolutely nothing wrong with this beautiful earth....Its mans carnal minds that is in rank with satan that needs to be destroyed....Thus his baptism of the H.G. and fire....As our God is a consuming fire ...That new heart and new spirit is what is needed...That New Creature The gift of the H.G...I will pour out of my spirit on all flesh... Joel 2 :28....Then we will all march together and not break rank as Joel tells us...As Jesus says if i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me....That New Covenant as Gods says i will know them ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST... Jeremiah 31:34...And they shall ALL be taught of God...The anointing which is the H.G THE GIFT OF God....

    .....They met him in the air/wind on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:2...but that Mighty rushing wind/air was the H.G. which is spirit....Not A LITERAL AIR OR WIND....But the Spirit....As the gift of God is the H.G. which is Spirit ....Thus we meet him in the spirit right here on this earth....As the kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ...And he shall reign for ever and ever... Rev 11:15...Thank you Jesus....
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hey Littlechild Gbu I like your screenname....But it all started by the disobedience of 1 man Adam...And this curse and stain was applied to all men at Birth no exceptions....In Adam we all die but in Christ we will all live 1 Cor. 15:22...Jesus says If i belifted up i will draw all men unto me....Thus the blood of Christ has to be applied to all men....That was the new Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31 I will know them all from the least to the greatest...An all inclusive Covenant....Implying the blood of Christ has to be applied to every person from the least to the greatest....As God so loved the world....But there is another man in this picture which is our old adamic nature, he is the man that has to be destroyed by the lake of fire....If thy right hand offend thee cut it off....He is the dog that returns to his vomit and the sow that returns to her mud....Every sinner has to have his part in the lake of fire which is baptism of the H.G. and fire as our God is a consuming fire...Thats y Jesus said i come to bring fire on the earth....Which is his baptism of the H.G. and fire...The gift of God to every person that hungers and thirst after righteousness.... Joel 2:28 I will pour out of my spirit on ALL FLESH etc...God wants to write every mans name in this book of life that Jesus wrote with his own blood...And if any man's name was not found written in the book of life he was cast into the lake of fire...Thus nobody will be lost...As our God is a consuming fire implying Judgement....Jesus said when he the spirit of truth is come (the H.G.) the manchild..he will reprove the world of sin and judgement and righteousness...etc....Its not his will that any should perish...If i be lifted up I will draw ALL men unto me....God is no respector of persons...Thus we all must go thru that lake of fire...HG.and FIRE BAPTISM...The gift of God by what Jesus did at Calvary IN his blood.....The love of God is beyond our comprehension....ok lemme go nuff said...ty Jesus
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Abrahamic Covenant.

    Part 4.

    The Abrahamic Covenant also included a promise of blessing and redemption ( Genesis 12:3). All the earth would be blessed through Abraham. This promise finds its fulfillment in the New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31-34; cf. Luke 22:20), which was ratified by Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham and Redeemer who will one day "restore everything" ( Acts 3:21).

    Five times in Genesis 12, as God is giving the Abrahamic Covenant, He says, "I will." Clearly, God takes the onus of keeping the covenant upon Himself. The covenant is unconditional. One day, Israel will repent, be forgiven, and be restored to God's favor ( Zechariah 12:10-14; Romans 11:25-27). One day, the nation of Israel will possess the entire territory promised to them. One day, the Messiah will return to set up His throne, and through His righteous rule the whole world will be blessed with an abundance of peace, pleasure, and prosperity.

    There will have an article highlighting the Abrahamic Covenant.

    THAT BRINGS US TO THE DAVIDIC COVENANT.

    The Davidic Covenant refers to God's promises to David through Nathan the prophet and is found in 2 Samuel 7 and later summarized in 1 Chronicles 17:11-14 and 2 Chronicles 6:16. This is an unconditional covenant made between God and David through which God promises David and Israel that the Messiah (Jesus Christ) would come from the lineage of David and the tribe of Judah and would establish a kingdom that would endure forever. The Davidic Covenant is unconditional because God does not place any conditions of obedience upon its fulfillment. The surety of the promises made rests solely on God's faithfulness and does not depend at all on David or Israel's obedience.

    NEXT.

    See the Davidic Covenant.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Page 2.

    But all that is OT prophecy. Has Israel been blotted out because of their stubbornness, & only the Church is what is on God's Mind as His new Israel? I believe that God cherishes His Church (those of Israel & the Gentiles purchased with His Son's Blood), yet yearns for His chosen ones to whom His covenants were given.

    The Apostle Paul shares much on this: we read of his yearning for his people & the promise that they will come to the Lord, when "the fullness of the Gentiles be come inAnd so all Israel shall be saved" ( Romans 11:25-27). He isn't referring here to a reconstructed/renamed Israel comprising believing Jews & Gentiles; Paul sees not only the Church (saved Jew & Gentile) in his many writings but also that Israel as a nation/people will continue to exist & play a major part in the end-times. To remove Israel completely out of the end-time picture, would also remove much from the Word that speaks of them as a nation (see also Hebrews 8:8-12 & Jeremiah 31:31-34 for the New Covenant which applies to all now, & will still find it's complete fulfilment in Israel's restoration in the end times). Even Jesus proclaimed that, "Ye (Israel) shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord" ( Matthew 23:39) - I wonder when that time will be? ( Zechariah 12:9,10).
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Donna i know i'm late to answer your question but i just noticed it...And its a very good question....There was no man worthy to shed his blood for humanity but Jesus....Steven was a great man of God like so many others but they still carried that stain and spot of Adam...Christ Jesus was the only man that didn't carry the stain and spot of Adam....Thus he was the only man that cd shed his blood for the sins of the world (humanity)....Thats y John the bap. said behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...No other man cd die for the sins of the world....God wanted a New Covenant for the sins of the world but it was only Jesus that was good enough to die for the sins of the world..There were many great men of God but none of them cd be the lamb of God... They cd stone Steven and the Prophets and many others simply b/c their blood had no redemption value...When he was crucified at Calvary the shedding of his blood God wanted the world to see it...He fulfilled that New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:34...via his blood...And here is the meaning of that New Covenant in his blood..If i be lifted up ( his blood ) i will draw all men unto me....This NC is truly enormous....simply b/c its all inclusive...I will know them all from the least to the greatest...This Know them all is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of CHRIST IN US....Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man...Mankind is gona have a baby b/c of his blood...Smite the shepard ( his blood ) and the sheep will be scattered then will i turn my hand to the LIL ONES...The babes and sucklings his offspring in us sinners...What he did at calvary made this whole world clean...When we were yet sinners Christ died for all of us sinners...Thats y God was so upset with Peter commanding water baptism for the remission of sins...Telling Peter 3 times what i have made clean ( Calvary) do not call common or unclean...All the unclean animals in that sheet was Humanity made clean by his blood.GBU
  • Pierre1939 - 3 years ago
    If Mary was not made clean by her fetus....Christ in her.... How in the world are we gonna be made clean by his words spoken unto us....And remember Jesus was the LIVING word made flesh and BLOOD....The living word contains HIS BLOOD...As my words are spirit and life...Life is in his blood the living word....But not the written word that old covenant...Calvary was a N.C.

    Just as God's seed formed Christ in MARY....The seeds of the sower are gonna form Christ in us.... Gal. 4:19....My lil children of whom i travail in birth again till Christ is formed in YOU....The wheat is a baby Christ the H.G. That Child of Promise simply b/c the sower of that good seed is Christ the bridegroom....Thats y he has to know us...He wants to KNOW everybody...Thats y Isaiah saw Knowledge covering the whole earth as the waters covering the seas...This knowledge is an INTIMACY that is gona result in a birth of Christ in every body...Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...30:6...Thus an Israel of GOD...If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....Thats y the woman in Rev 12:5 is giving birth....Remember Jesus said the field is the world...Where that good seed will be sown...Thus he will impregnate this whole world with is precious seed. ....3 of the prophets saw this whole world at rest and full of his GLORY....That was the N.C. God said he wd know them all from the least to the greatest Jeremiah 31:34...Thats everybody.. the world...But the book in the right hand of the father has to be opened 1st which is that N.C. that he wrote with his own blood...Thats when we will sing a new song...We will no longer sing this Churchanity Song...(Sunday go to meeting song)....As Bro. Paul said when that which is prefect is come that which is done in parts will be done away with....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations, thats right here on this beautiful EARTH...The manchild is the H.G. the gift of God to us sinners...Which is mankinds fruit unto God..ok Gb
  • Pierre1939 - 3 years ago
    Lemme just ramble a bit plz....Rev.14 :6 And i saw a mighty angel flying in the midst of heaven having the everlasting gospel to preach to all that dwell on the EARTH....To every nation and ppl and tongue and Kindred this is indicative of everybody...If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...At Calvary Jesus died for everybody....If ya read Jeremiah 31:34 its all inclusive I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest...But this is that N.C. The book in the right hand of the father that our Lord wrote with his own blood...And i wept much b/c no man cd look into it....Which answers to that secret Jesus spoke of....These things are hid ( a secret ) from the wise and prudent but only revealed unto babes which is the H.G. as that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit from the seed of the sower...She brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations with his rod of iron...The word of God is that rod or iron that cannot be broken....We refer to the H.G. as a baby Christ simply b/c he has to be BORN in us via the seed of the bridegroom...Our new Birth..Thats y he has to know us Thus a new innerman...That New heart and new spirit...That Child of Promise via the seed of Christ the living word....ALL nations is indicative of everybody right here on this Beautiful earth.... Luke 17:21...Jesus is saying that the kingdom of God is gonna be with in you...He dwelleth with you but shall be with in you... John 14:17....Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man...Simply b/c mankind has to be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7:4 Which is a Baby Christ...That Child of Promise...Thats y Jesus has to be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thus the sower and his seed the wheat is a Baby Christ...Thats y Jesus was saying unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( the new birth ) you will in no wise enter there in...This was Jesus version of the Rapture which is in the SPIRIT right here on this Earth...As the Gift is the H.G.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 3 years ago
    Kathy GBU ....Lemme mention some thing about what Jesus did at Calvary...Jesus said if i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...Thats what the Cross was for ppl like this young man that was in bondage to something or other....any sinner...While we were yet sinners Christ DIED for us..Thats all inclusive...Our conduct has nothin to do with it...Its what Jesus did at Calvary that the father sees.... Romans 10:20 kjv....I was found of them that sought me not and made manifest unto them that asked not after me...This N.C. at Calvary is all inclusive....I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest and they shall no more teach know the lord for they shall all know me... Jeremiah 31:34....Remember Jesus said i come to set the captive free....I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives

    ...... Titus 3:57.....Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy and regeneration of the H.G. that we are saved....Its not about us....When Jesus said it finished there are no more works we can do to obtain salvation....The H.G. is the gift of God....To humanity....God so loved the world....But we have to wait for his book to be opened b/f the Kingdom can come....The Kingdom is not here just yet...Remember God told Daniel do thy way Daniel till the words of book that is sealed is opened... Daniel 12 :8 kjv....That N.C. in his blood....I am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can work...But Micah 5:3 tells us that God was gonna give them up till the woman is in travail and birth pains....And Rev. 12 :10 kjv says that NOW IS COME Salvation and THE KINGDOM of our lord and his Christ...etc...But plz note the kingdom does not come till the book is opened and the woman gives birth to the Children of the Kingdom....Unless you receive the Kingdom as lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....But not to worry as Jeremiah 30:6 Jeremiah sees all all all men in travail and birth pains...A time of Jacobs trouble which is an Israel of God .
  • TammyC - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 31:29 "In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge." That means that there are no longer generational "curses", so to speak. Everyone is accountable for their own sins. A child will not be held accountable for what his/her parents did. And, the only way to become perfect, is through Jesus Christ. We all need Him. We're all sinners and need a Saviour. That's why He took our sins to the cross, died in our place. Only through Jesus is our sins totally wiped out, washed away. I hope that helped. God Bless
  • Nacol1900 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hiya Ruby lea Read....Gbu....You were right Ruby we all died with him at Calvary..... Romans 5 :8...While we were yet sinners Christ died for us....Are we ALL sinners....Yes....Then he died for everybody....And if i be lifted up ( the blood ) I will draw all men unto me.

    Remember what Jesus said when he had taken the cup...1 st Cor. 11:25...This is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it....Thus we were all washed in his blood everybody....Although i was not born yet....I was there when they crucified my Lord....GBU Ruby....How cd a sinner like me be at Calvary?....Simply b/c God so loved the world that he gave his only son....The world is humanity....Everybody....Toda el Mundo....At Calvary implies a New Covenant.....An all inclusive Covenant...I will know them all from the least to the greatest.....Everybody ought to read about his New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:34


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