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Hi Stephanie, just in case, read James 5 - it may be a chance to glorify God ( John 9:1-3) :)

James 5 - 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

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Some points to consider on it:

1. According to the Bible, only men can be elders ( 1 Timothy 2:11-15 - 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 - 1 Timothy 3:1-2 - Titus 1:6)

2. The anointing oil needs to be done; it's not "just medicinal" like some teach - (Read Mark 6:7 & 6:12-13 those were clearly supernatural healings, and yet they still used the anointing oil - when they anointed in the Old Testament, they simply poured oil on someone's head ( Leviticus 8:12 - 2 Kings 9:6 - 1 Samuel 10:1) - you don't need any man to "bless the oil", the Bible did not say to do that - the anointing simply needs to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

3. It says "the prayer of faith shall save the sick", so I encourage everyone to be praying that God will give the gift of faith to both parties during that time - earlier in James, it shows us faith is essential when praying, otherwise "...let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." ( James 1:6-7)

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And a short gospel message - Jesus said "...repent ye, and believe the gospel."

Repent in that context is godly sorrow for having broken God's commandments ( 2 Cor 7:8-11)

Romans 13:9 "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Verse 10 of this Psalm certainly gives us pause to think of an average lifespan; as the last years are indeed a struggle. If this refers to the last generation; we need to consider that 1948 may not have been the correct beginning for that day.

We notice where Christ says"..behold the fig trees and ALL the trees.." ( Luke 21:29) This would perhaps indicate economic prosperity for the surrounding nations which the Gulf states are already seeing ahead of them with agreements with Israel. It would seem for Israel to be attacked when they live securely and with unwalled villages in the Ezekiel 38 war; first the events of Psalm 83 would expand Israel's borders and eliminate the constant conflicts with the Palestinians and other nearby surrounding countries. Then; it would be likely the Daniel 27 covenant would have a league with countries such as Iran; Turkey; Syria and perhaps others in N. Africa and make it seem that Israel's issues are over. Just another perspective here. In any event; this psalm tells us that we are to "number our days." (v.12). Life is as a fleeting shadow; there is truly little time before night comes; and no man can work ( John 9:4). The millennium seems a clear concept as well here from v. 4; with the last day of rest for the whole world bringing the world in a way back to the way it was on the last day of the Creation; a sort of rest for the whole creation that has been travailing to this point.( Romans 8:22 etal).

Please read these scriptures: John 7:1-53, Mark 2:1-28,

This discussion came up Holidays 2019, there was hatred towards not wearing masks in donut shop Southern California 80-90 degrees near beach. Teenager asked "wouldn't Jesus just be nice" then it hit me with fire inside my spirit. I replied "Jesus would be the first to bring alarm!" "If they were going to arrest people for getting too close, touching the sick, HE'd probably be first" I could envision HIM hugging & healing people & upsetting the "norm" as "enforcers" would say "HE isn't allowed to do that."

Luke 13:1-17, Luke 13:20-35, * Mark 3:1-6,9,10, *

Hypocrisy of crowds, sporting events, parades, but Jesus crowds? Mark 2:2, hypocrisy= John 19:31, Luke 4:14-44,

not wearing masks, HE'd probably be taking them off, elderly & children 1st. Would the creator of man, mankind, want them breathing carbondioxide, weaking their lungs, hiding HIS glory? 2 Corinthians, 1 John 1:1, seeking to save themselves? Luke 17:33, Matthew 16:35, Luke 8:35, John 12:25, Matthew 6:25

Luke 6:1-19,

John 9:1-7 can you imagine? criminal charges today?

+ HE actually gave commands to heal the sick, Matthew 10:8, Luke 10:9, Acts 4:28-30,

"The saddest thing about all the hate, meaness, is when this is over, people will remember how badly they were treated" "let's try to remember that & be kind"

Matthew 25:39

It's almost 2022. Those mandates have caused division, job loss, depression etc., yet what proof of any good?

To further answer your question: I have been in much prayer about it & I do not take lightly any scripture. I believe in USA we are a "Nation under GOD" being The People we are the ones with the Governing authority as per The Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution & all States Constitutions. The people putting forth "Mandates" know they have not authority to call them "laws" they are therefore those that "resist the power & Ordinances of GOD" & the Higher power is GOD.

Hopefully these are helpful.

Amen Brother Alex!

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

John 9:41 And Jesus said unto them, If you were blind ye should have no sin: but now ye say, we can see; therefore you sin remaineth.

John 8:21 Then Jesus said again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go ye can't come.

Everyone is LOOKING for the place, but it's not a place, but a new creation, the new man exactly like his CREATOR.

God's has has been gracious to us.

Brother Rick, I was not implying that God has only revealed the truth to me, but that it has to be God, through his word and his S pirit, that reveals the TRUTH, not following the tradition of man's teaching.

Few find the way.

Two thirds of the world don't read the bible, mostly those professing to be Christians are the ones that read the bible.

Why then does only a few, that read the bible, find the way, this should concern us, what is it that we think we see, but don't.

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If you were blind, you should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, for JUDGEMENT I am come unto this world, that they which SEE NOT might SEE, and they WHICH SEE might be MADE BLIND.

Satan who deceives the WHOLE WORLD, that includes the two thirds that profess to be Christians.

What is it that man teaches. that deceives the whole world.

You have to let the Spirit, through his word teach you, and it will be different than what man teaches.

Sister GiGi:

If there's not HIDDEN meaning in God's word, but totally literal so all can understand, then whats the meaning of:

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If you were blind, you should have not sin: but since you say. We see, therefore your sin remaineth.

Do physically blind people literally have no sin.

The TRUTH is HIDDEN and the Spirit has to tell you the meaning.

John 6:63 ....my words are spirit....

I takes the SPIRIT to understand the meaning.

1 Corinthians 2:14 ....because they are spiritually discerned.

Brother Joe, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

John 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man blind from his birth.

John 9:2 And his disciples ask him, saying, who DID SIN this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man SINNED, nor his parents, but that the WORKS OF GOD should be made manifest in him.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgement I am come into this world, that they which SEE NOT might SEE, and they which SEE might be made BLIND.

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If you were blind you would have NO SIN, but now you say, WE SEE, you sin remaineth.

The wages of SIN (unbelief) is DEATH, the GIFT (belief) of God is eternal LIFE.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but to suffer (in the flesh) for his (name) sake.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

Walk in God's words not mans.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU to both WILL an TO DO his good pleasure.

This says God's work in you CAUSED you to get a divorce and ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD of those who love the Lord.

His ways are higher than our ways.

Hi Kevin.

When we pray we humble ourselves and give honor to Gods Supreme Athority. You go to the Lord as your Heavenly Father.

You pray for his to be done.

And we pray in faith to God believing that he here's us. Often and everything.

Never borrow some super saints prayer, God wants to hear from YOU!! Not a script.

Here is 2 of many scriptures you may want to consider.

John 9:31. Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Romans 8:28. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

God bless

2 Timothy 4:5

But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an EVANGELIST, make full proof of thy ministry.

John 9:4

I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

John 5:17

But Jesus answered them, My Father works, and I work.

Mark 6:5

And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

Acts 21:8

...and we entered into the house of Philip the EVANGELIST, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.

A "publisher of glad tidings;" a missionary preacher of the" "gospel ( Eph. 4:11). This title is applied to Philip ( Acts 21:8)," who appears to have gone from city to city preaching the word "(8:4, 40). Judging from the case of Philip, evangelists had" "neither the authority of an apostle, nor the gift of prophecy," nor the responsibility of pastoral supervision over a portion of "the flock. They were itinerant preachers, having it as their" special function to carry the gospel to places where it was previously unknown. The writers of the four Gospels are known as the Evangelists.

Isaiah 52:7

How beautiful upon the mountains are the FEET of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; see Rom. 10:15

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY always to GIVE AN ANSWER to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is IN YOU...

John Chapter 15

18 If the world hate you, ye know it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

20 ...If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

Matthew 9:37

Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;

This chapter shows how corrupt the Pharisees were because they would rather the blind man lie and deny Jesus instead of him telling the truth and giving glory to God.

Brother John R Nolan, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You are CORRECT the only sin that keeps us from BEING ONE with Christ is UNBELIEF.

Colossians 1:26 Even THE MYSTERY which hath been HID from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to the saints:

Colossians 1:27 ..... THIS MYSTERY.....CHRIST IN US......

John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man SINNED, nor his parents: but that THE WORKS OF GOD should be manifest in him.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, For JUDGEMENT I am come into this world, that they which SEE NOT may SEE; and they which SEE might be MADE BLIND.

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If you were BLIND, you would HAVE NO SIN (unbelief): but now you say, WE SEE, therefore your SIN (unbelief) remaineth.

Hi Gary.

When you say sinners I suppose you mean unsaved,

If so you come just as you are

with a "repented heart"

Romans 10:9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

HE WILL HEAR YOU AND SAVE YOU!

I think the question is does God "answer" the prayers of sinners.

I believe he hears all that come to him, but he knows the heart. There's some he gives audience to that's out of Gods will, that answer is likely to be no whether they're saved or not.

BUT NOT ALWAYS. Sometimes there's lessons to be learned.

Israel asked for a king when he wasn't ready to give them one and he gave them Saul. Read Samuel ch 8.

Often Gods will is not comfortable for us so we pray as Paul did.

Paul prayed 3 times to have his thorn in the flesh removed and he got an answer.

2 Corinthians 12:8-9. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Faith, Obedience, being in the will of God, and serving is very important.

READ ALL OF MATHEWS CH 6.

and then consider John 9:31. Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

I hope this helps, and hopefully others would like to elaborate.

God bless you

Hi Richard, I wonder whether you're referring to Exodus 4:10,11. These verses do seem to imply that God specifically creates some (in the womb) to have defective organs or other impediments. He is after all the Creator of all people & things & so has the right to do as He pleases. However, the question: why would God then create a new life with such physical or mental problems? Is it simply sufficient to say that 'He has every right to do so?"

Apart from the above, I see two other aspects to this dilemma: we are all born in corrupt sinful flesh. Even though an embryo cannot be classed as one having committed any sin, its very state, being formed out of the seed of sinful man & woman, already consigns it to an existence (whether in the womb or outside), into a sinful state. And secondly, the Ways & Plans of God are unknown to us. We don't know how God uses such people so afflicted in various ways; whether to glorify Him, to lead them to Himself, or to touch other lives through their infirmity. We usually see the suffering of the one afflicted & ask 'why has God allowed this to happen'?, yet we remain ignorant to the Purposes of God in doing so & for the one afflicted to still return praises to Him in spite of it all.

Here in Exodus chapter 4, we see Moses with a speech impediment; in John 9:1-3 (a man born blind); Mark 7:31-34 (deaf man & with a speech impediment); Acts 3:1-3 (lame man) are a few examples. Then we have babies born with disabilities from no fault of the parents, or maybe because of something ingested by the mother (e.g. Thalidomide when taken during pregnancy for anxiety & morning sickness). All these are the results from what we are as humans or what God has allowed for His Own reasons. What is more important is how we accept our lot in life, how we can be useful to others in some way, & whether through it we are reminded of our own weaknesses & sins & therefore run to the Saviour for spiritual healing & hope, & strength to live through each day.

Thank you for answering my one question.

No man has told me I have received the Holy Ghost. Just as no man shall ever persuade me that the Holy Ghost is not in me. I know because of what I have experienced. The Holy Bible is what God lead me to read which lead me to Jesus Christ. Most people in this world would not believe what I have experienced. Those who do are wise as I speak truth. All glory to our Lord Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven.

I did avoid your first question. As it was unlearned. I do not believe in a "trinity of gods". God is one. It seems you do not believe in Jesus Christ being the Word of God? As stated in ( 1 John 1:14, John 14:10? The Father and the Son are also one, John 9:30. Let's not get into that though as you have your own belief. Your assumption of my water baptism is false also.

No where in the Holy Bible does it specifically state everyone who receives the Holy Ghost shall murmur or babble. That in no way is magnifying God. And to prophecy people must understand your words. Again remember as in Matthew 7:21-23 that no matter how much you prophesied, or cast out devils, in the name of the Lord that is not what saves you. The Lord searches hearts. I also just as you will have to give account for our words Matthew 12:36-37.

God Bless you.

You could also cite the many Scriptures that speak of those who fell down & worshipped Jesus. And this was not people doing obeisance to a 'mighty Prophet of God', but in recognition that this Holy One came from God & to be worshipped as they would God.

A few Scriptures: Matthew 2:10,11 (the magi from the East before the Babe). Matthew 8:2 (by a Leper). Matthew 9:18. Matthew 14:33. John 9:36-38. Acts 10:25,26 (an account where Peter refused the worship of Cornelius).

I always pray to the Father, but I find no reason why I can't pray to the Lord Jesus & glorify & worship Him also.

Matthew 10:32

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 John 4:15

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 12:42

Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Philippians 2:11

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 3:5

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Romans 15:9

And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

John 9:22

These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

maybe this is the passage that should have been quoted, I hope this helps clears up the conversation,

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

My personal belief is that one can pray to both God & His Son Jesus Christ. Even though I generally address God my Father in prayer, I also find that I can speak to Jesus, to thank Him & praise Him. Why I say this is because in our new relationship with the Godhead, God is our Father & Jesus is our Brother. Just as one would seek the help & advice from an earthly father & maybe the understanding & support of an earthly brother, we can even see God & His Son in a similar way, praying to them, praising them, & seeking help. And we should also be able to pray to the Holy Spirit residing in us, especially in those times of trial & testing or for strength & comfort.

As well, we see in Scripture that people prayed to Jesus. You can look at these verses: 1 Corinthians 1:1,2 (calling upon the Lord Jesus' Name); 2 Corinthians 12:8,9 (Paul's thorn in the flesh); John 9:38 (Jesus was worshipped); Revelation 5:8-13 (Jesus worshipped in Heaven as God is); Acts 7:59; Acts 9:6 & many more.

And No, you don't need to speak in other tongues to experience re-birth. Re-birth is effected by God's Spirit as soon as you realize that you're a sinner & that the only hope of your forgiveness & salvation is by coming to the Cross of Christ where He gave His Life in your place. Once you repent of your sins, calling upon the Name of the Lord ( Romans 10:13), God hears your prayer (because it was He by His Spirit that drew you to this point of anguish & need to be saved). And 'all who come to Him He will in no wise cast away, or reject' ( John 6:37). God then indwells you by His Spirit making you a new woman with a clean heart with new & holy desires to please Him with your life. His Spirit also gives us gifts, some to speak with new tongues, & other gifts ( 1 Corinthians 12:7-11. Also see verses 28-31), but to speak in other languages is not a requirement or proof of your rebirth experience & of the Holy Spirit in you. A changed life, heart, will & true love for all, characterize a Christian.

No. I'm not saying he was wrong. I'm saying given the archaic english, our understanding of the passage is wrong. When he said no one knows except the father, he was saying that he couldn't say because his father would say not that he didn't know.

Did God raise Jesus or did Jesus raise himself. The answer to this we find in John 10:18 "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

Now the nature of the Godhead. That is a mystery. One we shall have to wait and see to find out. The very fact we have a triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost 1John 5:7 ) defies the laws of nature that we perceive. God's characteristics Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient also defy our laws of nature.

As for the Council of Nicaea, this council was held to address the heresy that had entered the church saying that said Christ wasn't divine. Not to establish a new doctrine. There by confirming the Biblical Trinity.

So when he was asked when he's coming back and his response was no one knows excepted the father he was wrong? One more question and not too argue did God raise himself from the dead or did Jesus christ raise himself from the dead my Bible said that God raised him from the dead and by the way I don't believe they are one in the same being or entity because that defies all natural laws set yup by God, Also the belief in the Trinity did not develope untill after the takeover of constantinople better known as the nicene creed look it up historically. I don't believe things just because anyone says thats the way it is I research origins then make up my mind. I do understand something at one time I was taught things that made no sence then when I researched on my own then I made up my mind, thats anybodies choice not saying everybody else is wrong or right.

To say that not even Jesus knows is dangerous, after all He and His Father are One, and Jesus is the one descending on that day. That being said the "knoweth" in Matthew 24:36 as well "know" in 1 Corinthians 2:2 are the same Greek word and can mean to "make known" depending on the context. So given the context of both passages. Jesus is saying that no one will declare or "make known" that that day or hour except his father. Just like Paul is saying he didn't come to teach or "make known" anything other that Christ crucified. Paul also says in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 Says that we "Christians" are children of light and that, that day should not overtake us unawares. God has provided us many examples or signs that we can look out for that we can be ready for his coming. Matthew 24, all of Revelations, Daniel chapters 2,7,8 11, and 12, as well as some chapters in Ezekiel, Isiah, and Jeremiah. Just like Christs' baptism, and crucifixion was accurately predicted in Daniel chapter 9:23-27

Now- we are living in the end times - Duration - only God knows

Next - the revealing of the Antichrist

Next is - The rapture. Could be instantaneous, could take a while -God only knows

Next is - The tribulation - first 3.5 yrs only. Antichrist will rule in Jerusalem in this period

Then comes - Jesus second coming

Next is - The millenial reign - 1000 yrs.

Next comes - The final 3.5 year tribulation when Satan will be loosed again

Lastly - The perfect age which lasts for eternity

Comments about the seed of Christ which is the Israel of God ,Natural Israel was by the seed of Abraham that was the ABRAHAMIC COVENANT an earthy covenant as that which is born of the flesh is flesh . But the heavenly Promise was addressed to Christ that his seed ( the living word ) SPIRITS wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven,Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit thats the H.G that are born in us via HIS SEED THE WORD and its these heavenly PPL the H.G. MANY THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE, LIVING BEINGS THAT ARE THE ISRAEL OF GOD not humans but humans are the bride that are gonna birth the CHILDREN OF PROMISE VIA THE SEED OF CHRIST, WE ARE JUST JOINT HEIRS WITH THE H.G. that is born in us via his seed. which is the H.G the Israel of GOD. I.E. ITS THE H.G THAT IS THE ISRAEL OF GOD, The H.G comes from the seed of Christ his words remember he breathe on them ( his breath was his word his seed ) Thats y Jesus was saying that which is BORN OF THE SPIRT IS SPIRIT THATS THE H.G. THE ISRAEL OF GOD. Ya gotta realize that Jesus multiplies after THE GOD KIND NOT AFTER THE HUMAN KIND . Thus its the H.G that comes from his loins his seed thus its the H.G. that is the CHILD OF PROMISE . That Israel of God. Its the H.G that is his seed his name sake his son, Gods granson in rank with Jacob the granson. Remember it was Jacob's name that was changed to Israel and Jacob was the granson in the abrahamic trinity. And in the heavenly trinity its the H.G that is the Granson SIMPLY B/C HE COMES OUT OF CHRIST LOINS. They don't call JESUS the BRIDEGROOM FOR NOTHIN, he has a seed to sow inhumanity thus the gransons the Israel of GOD, THE children of Promise. Our new birth brings in with in ourselves a new innerman which is the H.G. The Israel of God. you can sum all this up by just saying that the H.G is the Israel of God. k later

Gods word says no man knows thats in Gods hands.

Hello, not even Jesus knows. Matthew 24:36

So, if even Jesus doesn't know, why would you think you can? It already says in the Bible no one knows. So, when someone claims they know or thinks they can know, the Bible already debunked that. I trust God's word over what man says.

we often ask our self when is Jesus coming will it be now or a year fom now? and i was just wondering when he would come?

John 11:35 Jesus wept.

He had been with them so long and even now knew they didn't really know who He was.

Kenneth; frist of all we can not let others keep us from God thru Jesus .It is your eternal soul that is at stake .

That is way the Word tells us to search out our own salvation .It does not matter who actually hung Jesus on the cross .

Jesus dyed on the cross as a substitute for each of us as the. spotless Lamb

that was required by GODS law to fulfill the law and the prophets .It was my sins and the sins of all mankind that put Jesus on the cross. It is hard to separate carnal (earthly) from sprit . Please do not let other keep you from coming to CHRIST .The word tells us to study the Word so that we can tell what is from GOD or the devil who come to(kill, steal and destroy ) It is your eternal Soul at stake ,and all thru the Word it says to endure to the end trusting in JESUE and him alone .I pray this is a help because I have been where you are hurt by church ,hurt by people that I had earthly trust in ,but I have NEVER been hurt by Jesus Christ ,even though we have to go though. things that if we hold onto Christ It will build your faith as we look back and see how God brought us through . May God Bless you and give you Faith in Jesus till the end .

I have many dates, times, and concerns, I did my past but never braught forth, I dont go to church for reasons of lies, like it wasnt God nor Ceasars but Roman Chathlic..Religion hung a man on the cross for not witchery nor magic but faith with in you to change.... I feel something big in me and im scrambling all over.

If they had confessed their belief in Jesus to you or others; that's what matters. Read these scriptures and be at peace in your heart about it. We don't hear what people pray in the middle of the night, alone in their bed. So, Believe the best.

Matthew 10:32

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 John 4:15

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 12:42

Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Philippians 2:11

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Revelation 3:5

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Romans 15:9

And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

John 9:22

These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

May Jesus be your Peace, Mishael