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Hi Dr Lyle Lee.

I agree with you on the two Gospels being preached. Where some get confused is they think that means there's 2 means to salvation. But that's not so.

HERE'S A ARTICLE FROM J VERNON MCGEE ON THIS.

( This may take several posts)

Part 1.

The gospel of the kingdom is the preaching of John the Baptist: "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 3:2). We do not preach that gospel today. The Lord Jesus preached it when He first began (see Matthew 4:17), and He sent His disciples out, saying, "Goto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 10:6,7). These men went out and preached that, but the day came when that changed. After His death and resurrection He said, "Don't just go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but go now to the world" (see Mark 16:15). And to the world was to be preached the gospel of Christ. Paul mentions in Romans 15:19, "I have fully preached the gospel of Christ." Read his epistles and you'll find that the gospel he preached was that of the death and resurrection of Christ. He wrote to the Corinthians and said, "I delivered unto you first of all the gospel. And the gospel I preach is the one that you believed in, the one that saved you." Well, what is it, Paul? It's "that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" ( 1 Corinthians 15:3). That's the gospel, it's nothing but the gospel, and nothing else is the gospel. Even if an angel from heaven appears to you and preaches any other gospel, Paul says let him be accursed! (See Galatians 1:8.) Because there's only one gospel that we are to preach today. We do not preach the gospel of the kingdom. I wish we could get that through today to a great many who are talking about the gospel of the kingdom.

See part 2.

Hi Alex N;

It is alright if you do not believe in two gospels, but this does not change the fact that there are two gospels, the gospel that saved our spirit teaches the death, burial and resurrection, also known as the gospel of peace, the gospel of salvation, the gospel of God and the gospel of Christ, however these names do not change the gospel. But when we preach about the gospel of the kingdom, we are not teaching about eternal life, we are teaching about a kingdom based upon theocrasy, where the Lord Jesus owns the kingdom and all the people in the kingdom. All of the Lord's parables are not about getting saved or being born again, they are about the kingdom of heaven, this is the gospel of the kingdom, when the Apostle Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 6:9-10, Gal. 5:19-21 and Ephesians 5:5 he did not teach if Christians live a sinful lifestyle they cannot go to heaven, nor did he teach they will go to hell, he taught they will not inherit the kingdom of God. This message is about the gospel of the kingdom, although all Christians will go to heaven, not all Christians will enter the kingdom of heaven, being the millennial kingdom at the second coming of Christ, nor when we start the new heaven and new earth in the final kingdom of heaven, the city New Jerusalem. All of this is about kingdom theology, so if you call it the kingdom of heaven, or the kingdom of God, or the kingdom of Christ, this does not change the dispensation, nor the manifestation of the kingdom. I have an abundance of scripture for all of this, if you are willing to learn, I will share this with you.

I agree with you, Alex. Jesus' death and resurrection was for all humans of all times, past, present, and future. That is the good news that every person needs to come in contact with and come to faith in Jesus.

Dr. Lyle Lee....I don't think that Jesus preached 2 different Gospels...There is only 1 Gospel which is the Death burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus...1 lord 1 faith 1 baptism....And by 1 spirit ( 1 gospel ) are we all baptised into the body of Christ weather we be Jew or Gentile, Bond or free etc...1 st Cor. 12:13...GB

Lies. No man/woman can heal the unclean. Every man/woman is unclean. They are clean only unto death! Who so much as speaketh a tide and tiddle, their words will fade, and no one in the future millennia will decipher. Bow now and down. You will not see the sun one day. Everything will be torn, disposed of. What will remain?

The Lord Jesus taught two different gospels in vs. 14-15 all Christians are familiar with the gospel that brings about salvation by faith without works, but most Christians are not familiar with the gospel of the kingdom by faith with works. The main message of the apostles while the Lord Jesus was alive was the gospel of the kingdom, Mat. 10:7-8 they never preached the message of the gospel as long as Christ was alive, yet the Lord Jesus taught both gospels while he was alive. Christ Jesus dying on a cross for the sins of the world, causes the sinner to become a Christian, on the day of salvation his spirit enters the kingdom of God, during the first dispensation from the time the Son of man died on the cross, until the Son of man returns. However, the next dispensation which is for a millennium, no Christian has a promise to enter unless he meets the conditional promises spoken of by the Lord Jesus and the apostles. Mat. 7:21, Acts 14:22, Mat. 5:10 After the second dispensation has ended, the new heaven begins with the final dispensation of the kingdom of God, not all Christians will be able to enter that kingdom of God if they have buried their talents, Mat. 25:14-30 or they do not have on a wedding garment, but only those believers who received glorification as all others will be outside that kingdom of God, the city New Jerusalem as dogs, needing the leaves from the tree of life for the healing of the nations. Revelation 22:2 and 14-15

The same account recorded in : Matthew 3:17,

Mark 1:11, context Mark 1, Luke 3:22, 2Peter 1:16-18, 1st hand account, witnessed

Also, Luke 9:34 context Luke 9:27-36, Mark 9:7, context Mark 9, Matthew 17:5, context Matthew 17, Luke 3,

Romans 8, 1John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1John 5:10,13,20,

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:1-11, Mark 16:16, Luke 3:21, 1Corinthians 12:13, Acts 2:38,41, Acts 8:12, Acts 10:48, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:4,5, 1Peter 3:20-22, Acts 22:16,

Romans 6, Colossians 2:12,

Hopefully these are helpful

As with anything else; Hebrews 9:27 makes a plausible argument; but it isn't worth quibbling about. The nature of the unique ministry is quite remarkable; as there will clearly and at long last be an undeniable "signs and wonders" ministry that will dwarf anything seen before. This will; of course involve a prophetic contest between the truth and a lie; with fire coming down; a mark or seal; and a Resurrection being mimicked by the Beast immediately after these witnesses have completed their misistry (although their ascension can be replicated).

I tend to emphasize the same concept as Christ preaching to the spirits of disobedience in hades. This is; along with likely the 144,000 primarily if not exclusively a DECLARATORY message of judgment rather than the Gospel as it stands today; since by the sixth seal ALL of mankind will know about God and Christ as well as the beginning of judgment. I would say this probably can be defined as the completion of the "Gospel of the Kingdom" ( Mark 1:14-15). The Gospel was said not to be given to all the cities of Israel before Messiah returns ( Matthew 24:14). There are certain verses about preaching to kings and having the Holy Spirit give the words which seem to be dual prophecies for the Apostles as well as the end time saints; as much of the generation that is described that will not pass until all these things come to pass seems to be describing later on in verse 34 of the same chapter.

It does seem that there is a lag time between the Rapture and the appearance of the 2 witnesses. Since certain judgments on the earth are held back before the 144,000 and likely the 2 witnesses coinciding with that time frame; it would seem that time is needed (they say 6 months or so) for the Temple to be constructed and for most of the seal judgments to transpire first.

That in my mind would also all ow the so called " Psalm 83" war to take out Israel's surrounding nations and their threats to come first before Ezekiel 38.

Hey Someone, who cares,

Who is an antichrist? Christ is a translation of the Greek word Christos which means anointed one. The Hebrew word is Mashiach translated Messiah which means the anointed one, the chosen one. One who God fixed for a specific purpose set apart to fulfill God's plan.

Jesus said many times that He/Him sent me, Matt. 10:40 Mark 9:37 Luke 10:16 John 5:30 and many more times. Also, Jesus said He came down from heaven not to do His will but to do the will of Him who sent Him in John 6:38, and Jesus said this in John 6:35-40.

We see when Jesus was baptized, He was anointed not with oil but with the Holy Spirit/Ghost, Matt 3:16 Mark 1:10 Luke 3:22 John 1:32, and John 3:34-36 Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure. Peter confesses and puts clear the Messiah/Christ, and the miracles, wonders, and signs God did by Him Acts 2:22, also read 23-39.

"God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit", manifest Greek word phanero; revealed, made known, 1 Timothy 3:16 John 17:1-8. God gave His only begotten Son, God sent His Son who was come in the flesh, tempted as you or me, and the spirit of antichrist is denying that is true, John 3:16 1 John 4:3 2 John 1:7. Christ is not part of Jesus name it is a title, Jesus is the Messiah, Jesus is the Christ.

A liar is he who denies or says Jesus is not the Christ/Messiah, and he is an antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. If we deny the Son, we have not the Father but if we acknowledge the Son we have the Father also, 1 John 2:18-24. You must come to your own understanding not mine, with open mind, prayer, and the Holy Spirit guiding you, you will.

These verses about the antichrist paint a picture of a deceptive seducing spirit and the people that have been deceived, just like Eve 2 Cor. 11:3. My understanding of these verses does not refer to the beast that will ascend out of the bottomless pit that has come to be called the antichrist.

God bless,

RLW

Pray first and ask Jesus to open your heart to his word then read acts 16:25 to 33.

Romans 10:9-10 please read and keep reading until you get saved ,ask God to show you that you are saved He will answer

Hi brother,

There are a few. However, the one that jumps out immediately is John 14:6. Jesus told us, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".

Jesse. Great comment because receiving taking in what someone else is

Handing out accepting is one the receiver not the giver major application

And understanding of condition biblically.

James,

John 1:12 would be one place in scripture. But please note that it says receive, not accept. A person must receive Christ. I don't know of any verse that says to accept Him. The Bible does say that we must receive Him. There is a difference between accept and receive. To accept just means to mentally agree with something.

I like the story when Nicodemus comes to Christ in the night! Nicodemus ,afraid He would be found out by His peers, Knows there is something He must find out about! His question of being born again and re entering His Mother's womb? This story in the book of John you will find as you begin reading from the first chapter. Many wish to know the hidden truths even like Nicodemus. Understanding Christ words would require complete "submersion" in His words!

James. Romans 10: 9+10 and believe It is your heart innermost part of

Your being..

Hi James, there's a page just for that you may find helpful:

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Also at the bottom of the page called become a Christian. Believers here are more than pleased to answer any questions you may have about what you're reading. God bless.

What is the verse in Bible to accept Jesus as my savior.

In John 17 Jesus prayed to the Father. It is some of my favorite scripture. What is frequently referred to as the Lord's prayer is found in Luke 11:2-4 and Matthew 6:9-13

LeRoy,

Matthew 6:9-13 gives us the principles of prayer. This is known as the "Lord's Prayer" theologically, but in reality it is called the Disciples Prayer because Jesus is teaching the disciples to pray.



The real Lord's Prayer is found in John Chapter 17 where Jesus prayed in intercession for His people to the Father. That is the real Lord's Prayer. It is His prayer. This is the prayer for the Disciples in Matthew Chapter 6.



There is another version in Luke 11:2-4, but it is a different presentation from what we have in Matthew. In Luke there are no Hebraisms because Luke's Gospel was written to the Gentiles.



For instance the first one is "Our Father, which art in heaven." Luke, even in the oldest manuscripts, it is just "Our Father." There is no phrase, in heaven.



So basically, Jesus again taught the same principles, but one in Jewish form and one in Greek form. And so you can see that it was not used as a formula for reciting, where everybody gets up and says the same prayer all the time every week. It is not a formula prayer!



But there are principles that Jesus laid down to teach us. He says, you want to know how to pray? Here is what you do. And there are three parts. But again, this is not the Lord's Prayer in Matthew. The Lord was not praying. He was teaching the principles of prayer to His disciples.

were are the different versions of the Lords Prayer found?

Hi James. Mark 1:4: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

The way I understand this verse goes like this: 'John came baptizing in the wilderness and in his calling, he proclaimed the need to be (water) baptized as an act to declare & confess one's sinful condition, to repent of it & receive God's forgiveness & sin's remission'.

John was Jesus' forerunner, in that he was God's messenger to announce Christ's coming & to prepare people to hear Him and receive Him. Of course, John's baptism provided no salvation, just as believer's baptism doesn't, but through his baptism people were brought to a point of preparation & then the messages that Jesus preached, the miracles He did, & the sacrifice He made, would then have more relevance & acceptance. Though unstated, I feel that the disciples that Jesus chose to follow Him, might well have come under the sound & acts of John the Baptist.

Psalms 139, Deuteronomy 4:30-40,

Words of Jesus : John 10:15,16, Matthew 15:24, Matthew 18:10-14, John 3:16, Romans 8,

Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19,

Hopefully these are helpful

John 1: Predestination

The beginning of John; much like Romans 1 indicates the Creation of God. However; the true light (God or Christ Himself) is NOT known in man's darkened; sinful state despite the evidences seen externally (v. 4-5). Verses 9 through 11 discuss Christ coming; not being known by His creation OR His chosen people. Verse 13 gives the first of a myriad of indications of God's election of who is saved; as it is not ultimately determined by the will of man. The rest of the chapter shows how Christ was supernaturally revealed to John the Baptist; and how He began to choose the 12 apostles who would someday judge the 12 tribes of Israel ( Matt. 19:28; also Rev. 4:10 showing O.T. descendants of Jacob as other 12 most likely).

John 2: This chapter illustrates how Christ would only be understood by those who are His own; even if it doesn't state anything directly. There were certain things to be revealed in its time; hence the miracle of the water to wine was perhaps a sort of local affair; and we see that there is no salvation message here; or any healings as is seen after He officially started His ministry after being tempted by the Devil for 40 days. ( Luke 4:2; Mark 1:12). This is NOT mentioned in John. A rare event when the disciples actually knew Christ was fulfilling prophecy without rather torturous explanations on His part was in verse 17 when they understood the prophecy of the zeal of His house. Verse 19 is the first of many verses hiding a meaning from the Pharisees as to what the Temple would be that was destroyed and would rise in 3 days (His body). The disciples wouldn't get it until after the Resurrection. This shows that Christ had to reveal Himself as God in the flesh only to those God chose to do so ( Matthew 16:17). We need also to see how ALL of Christ's ministry was an example of following God's plan; and speaking only His words as is seen in John 8:38 and other passages. He expounds on hidden truths to His own.

Matthew 8:15, Mark 1:31, Mark 15:41, Luke 8:3,

but go, show yourself to the Priest. Luke 5:14, Luke 17:14, Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44,

Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19

Ron:

Psalms 78:2 I will open my (God the word's) mouth in a PARABLE

The tree OF KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

The fruit of that tree IS KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

You are the garden of Eden; the tree of knowledge of good and evil is in you, and when you come to TRUTH, then you also come to THE KNOWLEDGE that the TREE OF LIFE is also IN YOU. BUT: Cherub with sword's of FIRE surround the TREE OF LIFE; so you are going to have to go through FIRE to partake of the fruit of the TREE OF LIFE.

Ezekiel 31:9 I (the Father) have made him (Christ) fair by the multitude of his BRANCHES (you and I): so all the trees of Eden (you and I), that were in the garden of God (you and I), envied him (Christ).

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you .....

Ezekiel 29:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD, they say of me, doth he not speak in PARABLES.

God Bless You.

Hello, the Bible says it was a fruit and never said it was an apple. Sometimes artists draw an apple, but that means nothing. Apples don't natively grow in the middle east from my understanding and think the fruit was more likely a fig or something else that is common there. Of course the garden of Eden was special and could have even had fruit not found anywhere else on earth, but the scripture only says fruit.

When I read the word without being told what that means or go here or there. I could not find the word APPLE in the book of Gen. I did wonder why a fig leaf over the loyns not a apple leaf over the mouth, led me to just read the word. That changed my life, and truth rules not some scholar saying different. I truly hope and pray that we all check out what God says not a pastor, teacher,dad, mon, or who ever. Checking them out may save one's soul.