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Kay,

2John 1:5-11, James 4:4-5, I'm reminded of 2Kings 20:12-18, Isaiah 39:1-7, Micah 7:5, Proverbs 19:4,= Job 19:14, Proverbs 14:20, Psalms 38:11,

Proverbs 19:7, Luke 21:16, Proverbs 19:6, Proverbs 18:24, Proverbs 27:6,

Even Jesus friends : Mark 3:21, Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 41:9, Luke 7:34, Matthew 11:19, Matthew 26:48-50

John 15:14-26, Job 42:10, -after = ( Job 32:3 ), Mark 5:19, Luke 14:12-14,

Hopefully these are helpful for wisdom in your love & wisdom towards GOD, your friends & close friends

Deuteronomy 28, note: Deuteronomy 28:58, Deuteronomy 28:15, Deuteronomy 28:28, Matthew 15:22-28, Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:27-30, Luke 4:33-43, Luke 8:26-40, Luke 9:35-50, Acts 10:38, James 4:7, 1John 3:8, Jude 1:9,

Deuteronomy 28:1-14, Exodus 23:25, Matthew 4:23,

Luke 9:55-56,

Jeremiah 32:27, Jeremiah 32:17, Luke 1:37,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hello,

1. Yes I believe in some ways our faith may be considered more complicated because they being with Jesus " physically " John 3:12, John 14:11, yet scripture says : 2 Chronicles 20:20, we have so many accumulated testimonies, prophecy fulfilled, the written WORD of GOD from many generations past in many ways we have all that to help build upon our faith. Then we have personal experiences & witness of miraculous events in our present days & years. I believe it's powerful to see the biblical text, New & Old Tstm & imagine the future with the stacked testimonies & understanding time accumulates more information. When the days of tribulation come the stacked accounts with all scripture will be that much bigger. GOD is amazing. I realized the other day the wealth of faith building information at our reach. I told a young man, "Yes, these days are difficult but we have so much to draw from". & GOD in HIS infinite wisdom gives each generation what they need. Romans 10:17, John 20:29,

2. Luke 23:43, I guess it applies to today to yes prove "nothing is impossible with GOD" Luke 1:37, & possibly to encourage us that it's not too late to repent, in dying moment.

Next. (?) Interesting observation. Matthew 4:12, Matthew 23:37, GOD gives people many chances to do good. Mark 6:20, Mark 6:19-31, read though, Mark 6:32-46, did Jesus even take time to mourn? It seems HE went to take a moment, yet compassion moved HIM to minister.

At 1st read I had thought you asked about Peter & Paul comparison of Peter released & Paul was not, also same "(charges) Acts 12:5-17, Acts 21:30-40, - Acts 22, - Acts 23, - Acts 24, - Acts 25, - Acts 26, - Acts 27,-, Acts 28,

My emotion would want to say "all chains are evil" however Mark 5:3-20, Jude 1:6, 2 Peter 2:4,

GOD uses all for good , Psalms 105:17-25, Romans 8:28-30, while Paul was in prison he wrote letters that became an important part of our HOLY Bible today.

3. James 1:5-8,

Hope this helps

In my heart mind and soul i know that Jesus will heal me from all things! It's His words that go right thru me!! Give all the praises glory and honor to Him that will live for all eternity and I with HIM who gave His life for me!! Touch His ROBE!!! You will see! Thank You Lord Jesus Christ of All!!! Amen!!!

Part 2.

Brother Chris,

The second question, first I do not believe anyone can deny the divinity of Jesus or His pre-existence of everything. ( Colossians 1:16) He was the beginning of creation and through Him, everything that is was created. The Son of God was with, from, and was the word of God.

I feel our mind with the preconceived ideas over the years, plugs our ears and blinds our eyes. It is like the word beginning when we see or hear the word beginning eternity pops in our head. It is like ( John 1:1-2). God has no beginning so, what is this beginning in John 1?

Scripture tells us God is from everlasting to everlasting, it tells us Jesus is the only begotten Son, the beginning of creation, but scripture does not tell us when or how he was begotten other than it was before creation and when He came in the flesh. Jesus is of God, and from God, the Son of God even the demons knew who He was and did not call Him God, ( Matthew 8:28) ( Mark 5:7) ( Luke 8:28).

In John 1, John is writing this after Jesus had ascended, in the beginning, is when the Messiah/Jesus first came, the beginning of His ministry, He was the word of God, the Word was God because it was from God, in Him was life and the light of men. John the Baptist was sent to be a witness of this light who was Jesus, and this light cometh to all in the world. It "shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not". As then the same today.

Jesus now was in the world that He made and they did not know him, He went to his own/Israel and they rejected Him. But as many that received Him became sons of God born again into the kingdom of God not of the will of the flesh but of the Father.

The word of God was made flesh, in scripture everything Jesus said or did was told to Him by God, ( John 5:30) Jesus was the word of God. In ( 1John 1:1-7) John's opening is similar to his opening in John 1, he is confirming John 1.

I hope this makes sense?

God bless,

RLW

Hello Thas. No, Jesus didn't lie when He said that only His Father knew of the time of His second appearing. Even though the Word doesn't specifically talk about this subject, i.e. how could a Divine Being come to Earth & not have all His Divine Powers still in His possession, the Scriptures do amply show us of Jesus' Divinity ( John 1:1-14; John 17:4,5; John 6:38 & many more) & Jesus' Mission on Earth ( Matthew 20:28; John 3:16; etc.).

However, Philippians 2:5-8 gives us vital information: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." The key word here (for the purposes of your question), is "reputation". In the original Greek, this word is "ekenosen" (from the word, kenosis), which means 'to empty'. So, if Jesus made "Himself of no reputation", the meaning is that 'He emptied Himself' of what He had in His Deity, for the sake of becoming a man, indeed, one of 'servitude' to both God & man, so as to die on a Cross.

We know that Jesus continued to have Divine Powers (of healing, raising the dead, knowing the thoughts of others, etc.), but there were also certain limitations that He placed on Himself while He was in the flesh on Earth and to be in subjection to His Father (by virtue of His Humanity). The one you quoted is a good example, as also Mark 5:25-32; Luke 4:1 (led of the Spirit). We can then understand that Jesus' coming was also to reveal the Glory of God ( John 1:18) & that to do so, His Own Glory had to be veiled. Therefore, we cannot know why Jesus didn't know the time of His second coming to Earth, except to understand that in His Humanity this knowledge was kept aside - but in Heaven now, He has all His Divine Attributes restored.

Mark 5:24

Mark 1:45 , Mark 1:44

Possibly because of the affect it caused

Jesus didn't want His miracles to be sensationalized or overshadow His message of salvation.

I've always thought it was because there were numerous Old Testament prophesies that we're to be fulfilled in his 3 years of ministry that led to the Cross.

Judas's betrayal was a prophesy.

There are charts on Google that list the prophesy scriptures, and on the other side, the scriptures of when Jesus fulfilled them. The odds of one person doing that, is beyond the number of stars in our galaxy. Incomprehensible.

Why did Jesus not want people to know what he had done.

Earl,

The word torment used in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is the Greek word BASANOIS. The meaning from Greek to English would pretty much be the same as what we would understand torment to be. Whether it is mental anguish or physical torment, I think it can be both. It seemed to be both for the rich man. He seemed to be in a state of mental torment knowing that his family members (brothers) would soon be in this same place unless someone went to warn them. We also know that he was in physical torment, wanting the tip of his tongue to be cooled. Can you imagine that? Here is a man in physical torment and all he asks is for the tip of his tongue to be cooled. He didn't ask for someone to throw him a rope so he could get out!

We also know that there is a place of eternal torment called the lake of fire. To tell you how the word torment is used in other verses would take a tremendous amount of time and space. That's a huge favor. I don't mind sharing my understanding with you but I'm not sure I want to tackle that one. The short answer is that the word torment means pretty much the same in English as it does in Greek.

For the rich man in Hades, he's still in torment. One day he will be released, judged at the Great White Throne Judgement, and then cast into the lake of fire, a place of eternal torment.

Sorry I couldn't give you more. If you want the verses to look them up, here are the ones I found:

Matthew 8:29, Mark 5:7, Luke 8:28, Luke 16:28, 1 John 4:18, Revelation 9:5, Revelation 14:11, Revelation 18:7, Revelation 18:10, Revelation 18:15

Dear Trigo,

Prayer is POWERFUL Your prayers can be instrumental in your parents being born-again and the healing of their bodies.

SALVATION - John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Confess your sins to Jesus Christ, repent, and believe in your heart that he has saved you. He will give you a new heart and a new life in Him. Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

HEALING - I've had miracles in my own life. Almost four years ago, I couldn't walk due to an illness. Friends and family prayed. And not long after, I just got up and walked. My great-nephew was so sick in the womb that doctors advised abortion, but his mother refused. Family and friends prayed. And the symptoms left that child. And he was born healthy and thrives today at four years old. God is on the throne. He hears prayer. God can heal immediately Matthew 8:13 or after a period of time Mark 5:5. Remember, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What He did while He walked the earth, he can do sitting at the right hand of God in Heaven. God bless.

Brother Earl.

I believe prince of Tyrus, used in Ezekiel 28:2. he's talking to the king of Tyrus. "The ruler of Tyrus"

But in Ezekiel 28:12-19. He addresses him King of Tyrus and broadens his indictment and put him in places he has never been. I believe he's talking to the source behind the king of Tyrus. Carefully go through the verses.

Examples:

Here you see the Lord talking to the unclean spirits in a man.

Mark 5:7-9. And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

Here's a link to scripture where Gabriel is fighting with Demonic forces of Persia. and next Grecia.

Daniel 10:13-21.

Hello Joanne. Matthew 15:24: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Jesus had gone to the coastal towns of Tyre & Sidon which are in Phoenicia. He went to minister to the Jews there (you might remember that the tribe of Asher had inherited some of that portion of the Land of Canaan back in the days of Joshua). So, we're not told what type of ministry Jesus was already doing there, when a Canaanitish woman approached Him to heal her demon-possessed daughter. Jesus didn't want to expand His Work to all people, so initially He refused her, saying that His Mission was to "the lost sheep of Israel", or the Jews who were perishing/in darkness for lack of Truth. Some could interpret Jesus' phrase as 'to the Jews who were scattered in these far off parts', but I think the emphasis on their 'spiritual needs' was what Jesus was referring to here. If Jesse sees this, he could clarify it better than me.

But because of this woman's great faith, Jesus just gave the Word of healing, for we read that her daughter was healed in that hour, or in that moment. And Jesus did touch the lives of non-Jews from time to time (e.g. you can look up Matthew 8:5-13; John 4:1-42; Mark 5:1-17) but His Mission was primarily to the "lost sheep of Israel".

Right this second, the most important thing your brother needs--above and beyond a cancer cure--if he has not been born again, he needs to take Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Confess your sins to Jesus Christ, repent, and believe in your heart that he has saved you. He will give you a new heart and a new life in Him. Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

If he is already a born-again Christian, he has nothing to fear. 2 Corinthians 5:8 "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."

Pray that the cancer and its symptoms leave him in Jesus's name. Prayer is POWERFUL I've had miracles in my own life. Almost four years ago, I couldn't walk due to an illness. Friends and family prayed. And not long after, I just got up and walked. My great-nephew was so sick in the womb that doctors advised abortion, but his mother refused. Family and friends prayed. And the symptoms left that child. And he was born healthy and thrives today at four years old. God is on the throne. He hears prayer. God can heal immediately Matthew 8:13 or after a period of time Mark 5:5. Remember, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What He did while He walked the earth, he can do sitting at the right hand of God in Heaven. God bless.

The important thing is the devils were gone. The man was set FREE that is what has to happen if we are to serve Jesus. When the devils are gone we can be at peace, sit down and will put on clothes.

Mark 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Praise the Lord! Nancy,

I am sorry for the emotional trauma you and your family are going through and my prayers are with you.

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Ruler of the synagogue, Jairus asked Jesus Christ to heal his little girl and he did. Mark 5:23 And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.

I have been listening and learning from youtube-Honest News Network Brother Joseph Skinner and it has helped me to understand it is all in hand of Jesus Christ .

I have been dealing with trauma of loss and depression and when I gave it all to Jesus Christ he mended my broken heart and gave me the joy and peace beyond measure and he can do it for you. Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings of safety Psalms 17:8

Praise the Lord! Sandra, Yes we are in a difficult time but don't lose hope and be encouraged, Jesus Christ loves you and alive and everywhere and not only found in a church building so you can have praise and worship with the Lord in your home.

Acts chapter 2:4 is regarding speaking in tongue and have been listening and learning on youtube-honest news network, Brother Skinner and there are so many lessons on there and it has helped me to grow in the Lord.

There is nothing too hard for God, Mark 5:25 and Isaiah 53:5 regarding healing.

God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8.

Jeanette,

To redeem means to purchase. We see in Romans 3:24 that those who are saved have been justified by the grace of God through the redemption in Christ Jesus. The word redemption means to purchase a slave out of the marketplace for the purpose of setting him free.

So Jesus purchased us from out of the marketplace of the world, where we were once the slave to sin, and He has set us free. We are now His possession. We belong to Christ. Right now, it is like we are sitting at the "will call" booth waiting for the one who purchased us to come to pick us up. Hopefully, that day will be soon!

Jeanette, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, SOLD under sin.

We were naturally born flesh and blood; but a body of flesh and blood cannot obtain the spiritual world (the likeness of Christ). Christ came in the likeness of us (sinful flesh) to REDEEM (exchange our body of flesh for his body of GLORY or a glorified body).

Romans 8:6 To be carnally minded (unbelief) is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded (believing) is life (you never die you just change bodies; you are glorified with Christ, you are REDEEMED.

John 17:21-22

All this was made possible by HIS WORK ON THE CROSS AND HIS RESURRECTION. He was made like you so that you and him could die together and you and him could be resurrected together; now in THE LIKENESS OF CHRIST to live a life without sin (love God above all and your brothers and enemies as yourself)

Romans 8:29

i love to read the bible. god is always good. what does redeem means

Thanks, Richard,

I'll have to remember not to put the comma in when using numbers. One time I had typed a person's name correctly at the beginning of a reply, and before I hit the submit button, it changed the name to something else. I can't remember who I was responding to but it changed the name to Hillary, which wasn't even close to the person's name nor what I typed. That would have been embarrassing!

I noticed that also on a post Jesse. When I posted about certain numbers of words changed, or deleted, from the Bible it went from thousands to just the single digit. It seems the comma does that.

Thanks, Chris,

It's interesting about Gadara being the center of pagan and demonic worship in that region. It was the most active place in the inhabitable world back then for demonic activity and worship. In their demon worship, they sacrificed pigs. I used to wonder why those pigs were there.

The demonic man cutting himself with stones is interesting. He wasn't just doing that because he was under a demonic spirit and trying to destroy himself. That was part of the pagan worship. You cut yourself, and you offer the blood to the demons. What an awful circumstance!

I would say that this is in the category of this man can't help himself. And Mark has told us that nobody else can help him either. It is beyond human ability. But it seems that the demons in this man cause him to come and just fall right before Jesus. The demons weren't worshipping. They were acknowledging that they were in the presence of God.

The confession of the demon speaking through the man in Mark 5:7, "What have we to do with you?" In other words, we have nothing in common! Notice the confession: "Jesus, thou Son of the most high God." They make the proper confession. They confess the truth about who Jesus is, they know who He is, but it doesn't save them!

Verse 10, the demon appealed to Jesus not to send them away out of the country because it was the center of demonic activity and they didn't want to go anywhere else. This is where all the action is. The demon didn't want to leave. He says "Don't send us out of the country!"

These people that lost their whole herd of swine come and see the man that was possessed who is now in his right mind. Mark 5:15 says they were afraid. You can see why. They weren't afraid because of what they saw. They weren't real happy about all this "deliverance" going on. They were afraid because of what's going to happen to their demon worship? They were afraid of Jesus because Verse 17 says they appealed to Jesus to depart from their coasts. Very interesting!

That was a timely clarification brother. I thought to myself, 'surely this can't be our dear brother Jesse writing the figure 6 instead of the actual greater number'. And that was interesting to note that those swine were raised primarily for devilish sacrifices & the connection with the demons desiring to inhabit the swine. Thank you.

Penny Bell,

I typed six thousand in my post. I am not sure why this website changed it to six. But where you see 6 soldiers, it is supposed to read six thousand soldiers. Also, it should read six thousand demons, not six. Maybe the website didn't like the comma after the six with three zeros, I'm not sure? Anyways, I wanted to point that out because I do not want to be misleading on the word legion.

Penny Bell,

A legion refers to 6,000 soldiers. This man in Mark Chapter 5 had 6,000 demons. And it was those demons that asked that if Jesus was to cast them out of the man that they would be allowed to enter into the herd of swine.

Now here is something interesting to know. These are a special kind of pig. They raised these pigs, and they were all black pigs, and they used them for demonic sacrifice.



If you study through the history of the Jews, you'll find that down through the history, when Antiochus Epiphanies came in and actually desecrated, or defiled the temple, he sacrificed a pig on the altar.



Leviticus Chapter 7 Verse 11 says that the pig is unclean to the Jews. But these are not Jews. These are Gentiles, and they are demon worshipers. And they raised these pigs for their worship.

So it is interesting and it sort of gives you an indication as to why these demons would ask permission to enter those pigs, and why Jesus allowed it!

What is your opinion regarding the term "legion" as specified in this chapter. I have looked up the term and it states that a legion at the time was 5 to 6 thousand. I read here that 2 thousand swine perished in the sea. I have noticed this as many times as I have read this chapter that I firmly after reading it again, this poor man had at least 2000 demons in him. While that may seem impossible to some, why would so many have perished in the sea if the demons had not taken them there? It's not important in the over all scheme of things but I do find it an interesting discussion. thanks for your imput.

Hello Christina,

Here are a couple verses for you: Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:28-32, Matthew 9:32-33, Mark 1:23-26, Mark 1:34,

Mark 1:39, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:25-30, Luke 4:33-36, Luke 4:41, Luke 11:14.

Some may be of the same account just a different book.

God Bless.

Mark 5: 43. He commanded them strictly that no one should know it,

Why Jesus told them not to tell anyone? Is it because, of His purpose of timeline or the timing need to follow God's way to reach his mission by cross. or. Allow us to believe in him cuz of our sins..

What if he allowed for the to disclose it... then. people will continue to seek him...which might have slowed him down?