Dear "Siobhan" a word keeps coming to me when people have strayed from the Lord in a way.
John 5:14 So a strong potion of Godly fear is now useful and pray for. So that you stay on the right path. And when impurity comes from the heart. What can we do? Example in Mat 15:19 and in
Mark 7:21 You know why and what happened. We run to Jesus! And you confess your wrongdoing. Then you must praise the Lord, thank and love Him. So don't make up and condemn yourself, what you once received, Jesus will never take back, you are forgiven Jesus says so. He knows your weaknesses, your tender heart, your regrets, and your tears.
We praise Your Holy Name Jesus Christ and pray to You with an open mind, and ask for forgiveness for all the wrongs "Siobhan" has done to You, to his fellow men and to himself. We thank You, Jesus, for Your great mercy and we praise Your Holy Name. Help him and have the right mind, directed towards You and Your salvation Lord God Almighty Father and Creator in Jesus Christ Holy Name, Amen. And teach him to fear You, Almighty, who are a fearsome God, So he will come out in the service that You have intended for him. In Jesus Christ holy name, Amen.
Matthew 15:5 and Mark 7:11. Corban, or gift. Not sure I understand exactly what Jesus is saying to them. I understand He's admonishing them for following their own traditions of men instead of the Word, but not sure exactly what He means by the gift
Hello all dear friends. Had to follow up on the word "heretics". Cathars is the name of a Christian movement. But they did not follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Dark Middle Ages this. The word then came to slander other believing people. Abuse of power, we can say, was carried out quite strongly at that time. ps. Heretics were tortured, beheaded and what is worse for their Christian faith. They did not follow the gloomy and loveless, money-grubbing church. Personally, I see that I had retreated there. became a Cathar. When I looked up dispensationalism, it became an opinion and have a right and can get permission to change things. That is, to do a thing/matter that is not allowed, Allowed, simply put. So here it becomes like making the rules as they suit you as you go forward. Or when you have the whispering game around a table, in company. You know the word you first said ends up with something completely different. It can be fun..
Just a little note, on how things and situations can be perceived. You are all so patient. I love you all in Christ. And remember it is okay to take a little break sometimes. Take care of yourself and all your others. And I have read your posts here and find this word dispensationalism completely beyond all reasonableness. It seems that this word is used a lot where you see a lot of money and in the laws of injustice. There you can change things, so that it fits into the plot. Law maybe it is used a lot in. And people experience a lot of injustice in the legal system. Look at those who are innocently convicted, or in disputes over inheritance. Where no one is really satisfied. And many other situations. In my shower room I have painted these words on the wall. "You are happiest if you are content with what you have". So greed must be far from me. Mark 7:21 Maybe I'm wrong, but in today's law books a lot has changed. Stay safe. Joh 21
Hello everyone. Is something missing in the New Testament. Could it just be the work of salvation or is it deliberately avoiding the subject al together? Why do people go astray? We know that sin begins in the heart. Thinking that the head is involved in forming a sin. Mat 15:19 And remember, the mortal sin is not believing in Jesus. And Romans 6:14 There are indeed people who are believers but who avoid the scriptures because Heb 4:12
The Lord God created all things. All things..
Good and bad, joy and sorrow, Isaiah 45:7 So we see these days that people don't want to hear this. They preach a God who is just compliant, sensibly agreeing with all the inconveniences that people find it okay to live in. The narrow path does not exist and everything is permitted. This is where we as Christians have a responsibility ourselves. Words that Jesus mentions are washed away with dust on a porch. But the fact is that the word shall never pass away Mat 24:35 and Mark 13:31 Words that all believers should think carefully about. If you have something like this in your life.Then throw it away, throw it into the deepest darkness, never take it back. Mark 7:21 and Mat 15:19 These words are very important, because we know that God created all things. ALSO all the Spirits small and great. Remember He saw everything when He created everything. Look at the different creatures in the animal world. Only there do we see that there is no fault with the imagination of the Lord. And not least the inequalities we people have. That's why we have to be alert to all things that are jarring. For example: You see your neighbor rolling a big cabin cruiser up the driveway to his beautiful house. And you feel a hint of envy. Because you've never even had a small dinghy. Right there! You have to be careful. Throw away the thought, preferably before it comes or before you think it! Such small pricks become big problems in the end.And harder for us to reveal
Christ's persecution and stressors during His earthly ministry
Matthew 14:13 shows that Christ's retreat indeed was after hearing about John the Baptist's martyrdom; also mentioned in Mark 6. There are several things we observe here; first of all in this case the Disciples were in mind here as they had finished ministry work and the Lord indicated they would go retreat and rest. This wasn't to happen; as the crowds followed Him. Jesus nonetheless miraculously provided for them; and immediately after this we see His next issue with the Pharisees; that of eating with unclean hands in Mark 7. I had touched upon the Lord Himself in a post from a few months back. Surely His grief would have been great as John was said to be the most Godly man alive and instrumental to prepare the way for the Lord (see Matthew 11:11).
Anyway; as we explore Matthew 7 we see the hypocrisy indicated with the Pharisees and their greatest dilemma of unclean hearts trumping any issues with unclean hands. Thus; in general we see the ceremonial law is of no spiritual significance.
It serves for purification to enable one to physically survive in the presence of God (at least at that time) before His atoning sacrifice rendered it unnecessary. This showed the whole perspective of the Pharisees was self righteousness and their rules and regulations had no value with unclean souls. Jesus used a prophecy in Isaiah 29:13 in Mark 7:6 in His rebuke. Isaiah had much to say about God being sick and tired of religious sacrifices and offerings with impure hearts (see Isaiah 1:17 and following verses).
The rest of Mark 7 shows Jesus in the area of Tyre ministering to the Syrophoenician woman and commended her great faith; and He also ministered in the area of the Decapolis. For this brief excursion He got a break from the Pharisees; but in chapter 8 He once again has to confront them in regard to their hypocrisy.
"And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;"
Mark 7:19
"Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?"
Mark 7:20
"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man."
Hello Israelshamar. We are not required to pray towards Jerusalem as do the Jews (first done by Solomon in 1 Kings 8:29,30: "toward this place" (Jerusalem)). But if we are to direct our heads in any direction, they should be bowed in prayer & in worship to our Sovereign God or else raised upward towards Him, even as Jesus sometimes did when receiving Grace from His Father to do His Work ( Matthew 14:19; Mark 7:34).
Hallo "Brother K.P. Brown" Rest assured that there are many here on the website who pray daily for all who come forward and ask for intercession. And what you are talking about is also a reality that all believers throughout the world experience. Also the Apostles in the days they lived here on earth. That is why we have the Holy Scriptures and lean on the words, because the entire Bible is inspired by God. Where the image of Jesus is central across all the pages. And we should not be completely shaken by the evil powers trying to destroy us. Therefore, we have words of comfort and God's promises to hold on to. Romans 6:14 If not seak thru, and find what is good for u. Because we belong to the Lord, we are also vulnerable. We must press forward, throw off everything that weighs us down. And reach out to Jesus Christ who took all our sin on Calvary once and for all. In peace and love I recommend this. Even though it may feel as if the Lord is far away. He is not. We are the ones who need to come into His light. Jesse here has just had a review of the Love Letters of John 1, 2 and 3. It is nice to be reminded of this. And should you feel resistance in what you are about to read. You know that then you have to take even more, to force what is preventing you from having flow in the Lord Jesus Christ. And in Jesus' name we pray for you that God's guidance and victory in Jesus Christ will remain forever. That He will come with understanding and the spirit of wisdom to you and all the believers. And to have a bright and shining life for Him who is worthy of all praise and honor! Like you, I pray for all people every day. And many thanks for the intercession, I appreciate that, everyone needs it. So we pray that the Lord Jesus will give you strength and deliverance from all things that want to destroy, may he really enlighten you to and understand the spirits and which of them are trying and accusing you.
Mark 7:21Mat 28:18 So with Him we shallnotbeunder,butabovewithHim
Matthew 17:21: "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."
Matthew 18:11: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
Matthew 23:14: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."
Mark 7:16: "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."
Mark 9:44: "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 9:46: "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 11:26: "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."
Mark 15:28: "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."
Luke 17:36: "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."
John 5:4: "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."
Acts 8:37: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Acts 15:34: "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."
Acts 24:7: "But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"
Acts 28:29: "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
Romans 16:24: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."
I John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Christ was also referred to as the 2nd Adam ( 1 Cor. 15:45; also seen in Romans 5). Hence Adam was designed in the image of God but because of his sin it affected all his offspring therefore we inherited his sin nature during conception ( Psalm 51:5). Men at that time when Christ lived on the earth expected the Messiah to come to earth and vanquish them of their enemies; hence tried to make him king ( John 6:15). His reaction was to go to withdraw Himself to the mountains (likely to pray).
A cursory examination of the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 shows statements that at first seem to contradict the law; or at the very least make the ramifications more severe for our thoughts about things that may or may not become actions. This was illustrated with lusting after a woman being adultery in the heart; and more stringent laws on putting away one's wife. This explanation was brought out further in Matthew 19:8 with the Pharisees on the subject as to the concepts tied in with Deuteronomy 24. This shows that Christ was; as a member of the Godhead able to define and even change what was considered the law to make it more perfect as no one before Him ever was able to live out a sinless life following the law perfectly. Ultimately certain ceremonial laws were brought to an end as seen in Acts 10:15; but alluded to in Mark 7:18-19.
Hence the method of rituals related to the animal sacrifices also was to be ended with the New Covenant. Overall we can say the 10 Commandments as a moral law remain as a universal statute; although the mandatory 7th day of rest only given for Israel and its occupants has been replaced with Sunday as a day of rest although Colossians 2:16-17 says we should avoid disputes over Sabbath Days and I would add Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath ( Matthew 12:8). I am not here to get into a debate over that issue.
To have the law in our hearts was a future promise that Christ demonstrates ( Jeremiah 31:16-18).
I wouldn't hesitate to say that for Moses to be the only one who spoke to God face to face at such an intimate level; and David being a man after God's own heart ( 1 Samuel 13:14) that surely God could be said to be proud of His creation in some respect.
Any success or rewards come from an individual submitted to the Spirit and operating in God's strength rather than their own.
Nonetheless there are thrones and crowns in heaven, which will no doubt relate to levels of authority in the next life for at least the Millennium and perhaps for all eternity.
To fulfill a purpose in life ties into the good works predestined for us from the beginning of the world ( Eph. 2:10). To be considered exalted takes discipline to deny self and wisdom not to get in the way of the Lord. We all should take heart in the fact that God knows all our suffering ( Psalm 56:8). We also know the reason for all struggles is to accomplish His purposes ultimately so we don't have to view things as useless suffering or as the lost who have no hope after this life's struggles.
Perseverance and patience results in rewards ( 2 Tim. 4:8 and supporting verses).
Exaltation probably is understood as a similar word to pride; neither make any sense if it is self doing it. Only God in His perfection DESERVES acclamation and can be proud (if I can use that term); the best example would be the Father's exaltation of the Son after His obedient sufferings making the atoning sacrifice for men that He was predestined to save. Even with the Godhead it would be strange if Christ said He was proud of the Father and even more so with the Spirit making such a claim.
We of course are just dust with an outer tabernacle as it were soon to pass. As corrupted as our bodies are; our souls no doubt in God's site are far worse ( Mark 7:21-22 for laundry list). If Christ in His humbled state is referred to in Psalm 22:6 as a worm how much more so were we before being redeemed? Self pride is dumb.
2 Esdras 15:46-49 and Revelation 17: 5 are identical descriptions of Rome.
Asia in this Context is Asian Minor which at the time of writing was held by Rome and is also identified as Asia in Revelation 1:4
Mystery Babylon is the Roman Empire, 2 Esdras above is speaking about Constantinople which the Ottoman Turks vanquished. The Roman Empire at the time contained the cities of the 7 churches in Revelation 1 and 2. Those 7 churches were cities within the Roman Empire at the time of writing.
Just as the Bride of Christ as a woman is a church, so too is the Whore and the Harlot daughters. The Bride of Christ is the true Church. The Whore and the Harlot daughters are false churches. They take the name of Christ, but they don't follow the Commandments of God. Specifically, they reject the 4th Commandment and in doing so they break all of the others too.
Luke 6:46
"And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"
Matthew 15:9
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Mark 7:8
"For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do."
Isaiah 4:1
And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
These Harlots and the Whore wear polluted Spiritual clothing. They eat Spiritually polluted bread. (They taint and serve polluted teaching as if it were the word of God) They claim to be Christian, but are Christian in name only, because they reject God's Commandments and teach doctrine of men in it's place. Those 7 women are the churches in Revelation 1 and 2. That man is Jesus Christ. The Whore is the Roman Catholic Church and the Harlot daughters are the churches that broke away, IE. Protestant, Baptist, etc... All keep Sunday rather than Saturday as Commanded and practice pagan rites/idolatry.
Q: "if we have the mind of Christ the heart of a believer must reflect the works is it not?"
A: Certainly. God formed man from the dust of the ground but heart defines a world and according to the everlasting covenant, this world is unseen. It is by works it's quality is determined. "He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works." (Ps.33:15) At the end of the Parable of Talents the certificate came from the Lord, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."(Matt.25:21).
This world corresponds to the same word of God with which he framed the worlds by faith so without faith no one shall please God. His world made to appear has the spiritual blessings freely given to man in his Son. It is thus each heart sets heaven in context of his soul. his inner man. Before healing the deaf and mute man he took him away from the crowd,"And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened." ( Mark 7:34). So we have heaven private for each, so we can understand what it means, "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty."(Ps.91:1) It is for the same reason Jesus asked the blind man to look up and he saw men as trees (Matt.8:24). From two examples we can understand our volume is not isolated from heaven or earth framed by God.(He.11:3) There is a great congregation to which we witness."I have preached righteousness in the great congregation."(Ps.40:8-9)
So we have the heart, a spiritual space and our works are considered under the eye of our Father which art in heaven. Does anyone delude oneself by serving God and mammon and say he is justified? Does any whitewashed sepulchre walk scotfree by espousing white evangelicalism? Oh no! God shall call them to account.
Pray for my salvation brothers and sisters. Altghough I am a Christian, have been baptised and am in constant reading of the bible I fear for my salvation as I see how weak I am. Mark 7:21-23 haunts me, 1 corinthians 13 also does. I feel like maybe I feel no love towards others. Pray for me please! Thank you all!
Sing, O ye heavens; for the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel."
Here the word of God is addressing the lower parts which refers to the outer darkness. Parables of Jesus made so much so clear. The nation of Israel proved to be unprofitable, their traditions of their made the word of God to none effect.(Matt.25:30; Mark 7:13).
"Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert." (Is.43:19) It is the Lord's doing and it is marvellous in our sight. The word of God does not change. Here is an example.
"When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."(De.32:8)
We see the inheritance of saints in light which refers to the day of salvation tagged as 'unto this day.' Jesus sets twelve throne for the apostles. " And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:29)
Similarly in that day we shall see how 'God may be all in all'.
The House of David and the inhabitants of Israel on the earth shall come under inheritance as God tells Moses. These allotment is according to the sons of Adam where the mingled race include both Jews and the Gentiles alike. The same 12 tribes shall be maintained as the eleven apostles gathered in the upper room before the day of Pentecost, the idea was to keep the number 12 in tact. As it is in heaven so it shall be on the earth. "Thy word is truth." Amen.
Mark 7:31 - And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis.
Again, Decapolis is referring to the 10 Greek cities around the Sea of Galilee.
Mark 8:2 - I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
The word compassion in Greek is the word SPLUNKNOSE, which is the Greek word for the intestines, the viscera. And what the Greeks would do in order to show a deep love, or a deep passion for something, they would use the inner organs of the body.
That's where we got term heart from, like "evil comes out of the heart." It is not talking about the muscle that pumps blood, it is talking about the spirit of man. And so, the Greeks would use the internal organs to identify, and SPLUNKNOSE, the viscera, or intestines had to do with genuine compassion.
Mark 8:8 - So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
Now here is something you're not going to catch in any English bible about this word "basket." In Mark Chapter 6, when He fed the 5000, they took up baskets, KHOPHANOS. The KHOPHANOS, taking up 12 baskets, it was like a carrying bag. And it is what people would take on trips to carry food in.
But here in Mark 8:8, we have a different word for baskets. It is the word SPURIDAS, and they are like the hamper baskets. These are huge things, so the disciples definitely are not taking these baskets. And we know from Mark 8:14 that they didn't take anything with them because they said "Hey, we don't have any bread. We forgot to take bread!" So obviously the multitudes got this food for their migration home.
Mark 7:3 - For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
So, they are holding the tradition, the HALACH, of the elders.
Mark 7:6 - He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Now we always think hypocrites is like a bad word, you know, like "You hypocrite!" But it is from the Greek word that means an actor. And what Jesus is doing is He is calling them for exactly what they are. This is what religion is. Religion is working on "acting" like you are supposed to. Whatever the laws, the rules, and traditions are, everything is from the outside, and you are disciplining yourself to act in a very religious way. So, He says actors! In other words, you are just playing the part.
The word hypocrite comes from the Greek word HUPOCRISIS, and it is a word that means to answer according to the script. And some people take the bible, and they work very hard at trying to act out the script. Jesus says Hypocrites, as it is written, and this is from Isaiah 29:13, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:9 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Again, this would be the HALACH.
Mark 7:26 - The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
So, the woman was a Greek. Now it doesn't mean that she was a Greek person. There were only two groups of people in the world at that time, Jew or Greek. A Greek was a heathen. So, she was a Greek (heathen), a Syrophenician by nation.
Mark 6:37 - He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
This is something else that we might not catch from our English text. The word pennyworth is the word DENARI in the Greek. A DENARI is one-day's wage. Now just so you know, 200 pennyworth (DENARI) is two hundred days wages. Today, if you walked into a candy store and asked for 200 pennyworth of candy, they are probably going to give you two-dollars' worth of candy.
Mark 6:42 - And they did all eat, and were filled.
The word filled means satisfied in the Greek.
Mark 6:43 - And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
The word for baskets is KOPHANOS. It is translated in our English bible as "basket," but it's actually a large carrying bag, not a basket. And there were 12 carrying bags full of food left over. How many disciples are there? Twelve, it's for them! They are going to fill their travel bags up with all this leftover food, and they are going to be touring the country, and they are going to be eating this food for themselves. And every time they take food out of that carrying bag, they are going to remember where it came from.
Mark 7:2 - And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
This is not one of those wash your hands before dinner things like they had dirty hands when they were eating. What they're saying is that they did not ceremonially wash their hands before they ate.
The reference is not to anything in the scriptures, nothing in the bible, or nothing in the law. It is called the HALACH. Every Jewish person knows what the HALACH is. It is the traditions of man. This book contains the traditions that Jews are to live by in light of the scriptures. Most of them you will not find in the Old Testament at all. It is just tradition.
"And he (Jesus) charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it."
Firstly the crowd became vocal in proportion to his command that they refrained. "For of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." ( Luke 6:46). The Spirit gave us another example that truth in inwards when touched by faith can go straight to the heart of the problem. The Syrophoenician woman having understood from the manner dogs behave about the family dinner lifted it to connect with the truth, and it was her faith than gave it wings and her daughter was healed instantly. Prophet Isaiah spoke og the word sent forth by God and it never returned in void. The preacher's verse underpinned her faith so the children's bread in fact came from the providence of God. It is thus faith draws its conclusions instantly when required. (Is.55:11;Ec.11:1)
By the same token the multitude overwhelmed by the deaf dumb man speaking plainly gave vent to a full throated praise, they could not refrain from telling to all and sundry. When Jesus rode through Jerusalem some of the Pharisees wanted Jesus to restrain the multitude. "And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."( Luke 19:40). The point is that truth will prevail always. These two illustrations have been included for our spiritual instruction.
Lastly when Jesus would heal the man "And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened./ And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain." (vv.34-35) We can infer that he healed him as the Son of man. The feeding of Five Thousand we compare with this healing. "fer that he healed him as the Son of man. The feeding of Five Thousand we compare with this healing.."Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth."
The word became flesh is distinct from the Son "whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds".In the case of the former as he himself confessed, "For the things concerning me there is an end" which refers to his humanity When he came into his own,"and his own received him not." But John adds,"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."(He.1:2; John 1:11-12). Nevertheless he is the Son master of his own house and Israel would learn the truth in the end to their utter dismay.
Here we have an illustration of what the house would mean. As a corollary to this we have a verse which could help us understand the select passage. "Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days."God has cast his bread, which is intended for His children. The word of God says it shall be found after many days.
In the light of the above let us examine the Syrophoenician woman, whom the nation of Israel considers as an outsider.
v.27 "But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs." He intended the house of Israel here. Whereas her answer showed the truth that was written by God in her inward parts. She was not merely speaking from her objective experience of what house dogs would do. She referred to the bread from heaven sent forth along the river of time. " And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs."
" For this saying go thy way."Jesus rewarded her for her saying, and it was faith put the Preacher's precept in real time, and it is what truth does.(Ec.11:1) "Prayer of Jesus has this line "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
"(Jesus)he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak."
As with the raising of Jairus' daughter Jesus does healing and St Mark intends us to see it as significant. "And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him./And he took him aside from the multitude,." In the case of the man with palsy, "And it was noised that he was in the house."(2:1) He saw the faith who found an ingenious way to get the man before Jesus. "When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee."(2:1-5,10) Who was Jesus? "But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins," it was faith that connected him to the world. His Father sent him with a mandate that made sin standing athwart man and his malady. So he addressed it by forgiving him. Their faith was good as of the impotent man.
Whether in the house or in the open, the man in need of a cure was on one-to -one with Jesus and faith was what effected the healing. In the case of the Syrophoenician woman who sought out Jesus when he visited their environs, the demon-possessed damsel was in her house while her mother displayed her faith. She was as much an intercessor as Jesus stood in relation to his Father. "Behold I and the children which God hath given me./ Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;/And deliver them.(He.2:13-15)" Her daughter was instantly healed as in the case of the deaf and dumb man. " And straightway his ears were opened,... and he spake plain."(v.35) What is the significance of a man's spittle when it was the means to heal him? It just proves," Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same." His humanity fits with his need.
" Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."
Parable of the Sower illustrates how the word sown in the heart of man fails to produce what is intended. God formed all hearts alike but the enemy slipping in tares speak of a heart that is let untended. It is a no man's land or the wayside where birds of the air can make away with the good seed. The heart is like a sluggard's field for many and with such what is truth? It is all things to all occasions. God commanded the man not to eat of the fruit of tree of knowledge of good and evil. But Eve let the serpent an occasion to hear his take on the matter. is truth to be treated for anyone to counsel how? Eve let the context determine her course of action. Her senses took over bypassing what was inscribed in her hearts. Ever since what has knowledge of good and evil given her? God cursed the ground, "for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;/ Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee;"(Ge.3:17-18)
Spiritual meaning of thorns and thistles we may glean from the Parable of the Sower. For instance the oncologists warns us of a troubling trend that Early onset cancer, which is defined as happening in adults under 50 years of age, is no anomaly. In fact, it is part of a rising global trend in which newly diagnosed cancer patients are getting younger. Further, it deflates the myth that cancer is the preserve of older people. Cumulative effect of sin treated so lightly for instance glossing over the works embedded in faith so fruits of the Spirit is produced by abiding life in Christ. How can those actively engaged in culture wars, and churches that ride the coattails of politicians come to the light lest their works of darkness be reproved by Christ? Instead the imposter religion has traditions of their elders. Sin never remains single but every evil work are carried on without let up
God framed the worlds by the word of God. So the Word lays down the constitution of His kingdom where both unseen and what was made to appear are complete in his Son Jesus Christ. (He.11:3; Col.1:19). Of him we received grace for grace which empowers us to not only believe in him and enjoy the liberty of producing the fruits of the Spirit. Besides the blessings of his Father in him also has given us the peace which is not as the world can give so death signifies only dissolution of our vile bodies. Everlasting life that comes with faith shall continue.
Mark narrates how the Pharisees and the scribes coming from Jerusalem were offended at the disciples of Jesus. "Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?"(v.5). How did the tradition of the elder become the Law without God permitting doctrine of men supersede his word? Recent news illustrates the same dilemma. Is Constitution of a nation and their Bill of Rights are to be given same sanctity and worshiped? Jesus did drive out those who made it a business, "And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."(Matt.21:13). There is a place where state's business are transacted and when we pray it has to be done with all our heart our soul and might. This is how tradition of the elders where money is to be made becomes a doctrine. Where does it come from? Not from unwashed hands but from the heart of man. " For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,/Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:/All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."(vv.21-23)
What goes into the mouth shall find their own passage while what comes out of heart can be very deceptive. So love of God is either whole hearted for his glory or none at all.
When attempting to bring attention to man's deplorable state of heart Wh( Jeremiah 17:9) I have found in my own self examination that it is best to evaluate all that we consider what Phillipians 4:8 states and then look at our own heart and soul carefully.
When we seek all that men may say is kind; benevolent; compassionate; etc. and try to find pleasure in life apart from God of course we look to other religions and usually end up in a humanistic mentality. We ascribe to others as well who seem to portray such attributes as somehow "enlightened". I can only speak for myself as a man here; but how much of the flesh is appealed to in today's "Christian" music industry? If someone is young; thin and attractive does it move us as much as someone who is a bit overweight and unattractive who performs on stage? Do we favor those in our own social circles or families above others? What are our motives when we serve others?
Such logic of course often results in men not appreciating what God does provide such as a wife mentioned in Proverbs 18:22.
To find the "grass greener on the other side of the field" people think it worthwhile to get a new model and get rid of the spouse that they have been granted by covenant; something Malachi 2:15 says we should not do (also see Proverbs 15:18-20). Interestingly Proverbs 15:8 just before that talks about the sacrifice of the wicked being detestable as contrasted to prayers of the righteous.
Of course many hate God outright; at least being honest about their intentions; accusing God often of being a "killjoy" and sometimes being an admitted Satanist "do as thou wilt" mentality. Of course we have to look at men's obvious evil acts; so we have laws God has set forth to keep order. With all the self professed benefits of "freedom" we see the end result in the fruits of violence and discord in society that many possess or develop as the cultish mentality comes out. Mark 7:21 is the end result.
Concluding thoughts for now on misuse of scripture.
Remembering the Pharisees shows us a prime example of how not to use scripture. Mark 7:11 is exhibit one in this subject matter; where for financial gain the needs of a parent were said to be avoided and was used in their logic to exonerate themselves for what was "dedicated to God". Psalm 105:15 stating to do no harm to God's anointed ones or prophets has also been mishandled by the "prosperity" preachers in particular and could of course be used by any cult leaders who are false prophets.
Again we know how much Satan knows scripture. Anything that can be used to tickle men's ears and misused such as God's promises for blessings being boiled down to presumption of financial gain for all of God's people is made even more insane when attempting to justify such logic with other scriptures. Jesus was clearly a man of sorrows as Isaiah prophesied; and was essentially homeless; or at least a full time missionary along with the disciples; fully dependent on God for provisions. If He could state that we shouldn't concern ourselves with food and clothing ( Matthew 6:25) it is more than a stretch to entrust him for a Lamborghinis or jet plane. Note that Jesus didn't even mention SHELTER; and also indicated that the Son of Man has no place to lay His head ( Matt. 8:20). No point going further on that subject!
A further consideration ties in with what I mentioned about the Pharisees in regard to making scriptures legalistic to maintain pride. This used to be more popular when parents were strict with children two and three generations ago. It still occurs in some denominations today under a guise of "holiness" but seen for what it is when Christ's love isn't on display. We can list all day long what we don't do or don't permit; but we also need to realize that it is the love of Christ that constrains us and draws people in ( 2 Cor. 5:14; John 12:32).
in short; scripture is truth unless used for another agenda
Dear Father, that lives Eternally in Glory, in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ. Conceed my sister Joyce B and her congregation, an gentle pastor, that his heart be clean, humble in your path, brave to preach, an pacificist to conflict, someone that loves you with all their might and heart, someones that cries with their sheeps and comfort then in their sorrows.
That the pastor always stays focused on the True Light of This World, our Lord Jesus Christ, The Light beam that will help us walk throught this vast abyss, called the labyrinth of the mind and flesh, matter and spirit. That is carved with sin from our hearts since the day we where born from our mothers, every corridor is full of temptations, distractions and deceptions, it only emanates malice within us like you said my Lord in Mark 7:20-23.
Thats what the labyrinth always do, to dissolve us to the path of death, to confuse us.
My Lord, in believe in your word, that you will help all those who believes in YOU and seeks YOU with sincerity in their hearts, to conquer this labyrinth with rectitude, temperance, love, and dilligence in The Holy Spirit that guides your congregation to the Truth in growth and wisdom.
Because no man, nor woman, nor angels, nor demons can conquer it, only YOU, the Son of God, the Eternal GOD. Because all things where made in YOUR NAME, by YOU and for YOU. You are our Light, The God that became man, and gave his blood for Me in the cross, and resurrected in the third day and all those who believe in you, have Eternal life.
Even if our bones mangled in dirt, turning into dust, your Holy Spirit will remember us your promise, and from our graves well resurrect back to your Holy Word, as a new being, no longer possesing this corpse of corruption.
May the Lord extend his arm at your aid, and in remembrance of His Grace comforts you all in HIS WORD in Jesus Christ, so that you my sister and brothers take your cross, to become the perfect bride. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
The term dogs in Philippians 3:2 is actually making reference to a religious phrase. The Gentiles were considered dogs by the Jews.
There are two words in the New Testament that have to do with a dog. KUNARION ( Matthew 15:26 and Mark 7:27) is a household pet. And then we have a KUON. A Kuon is a wild scavenger. And that's the animal used here.
Gentiles were called Kuon's, wild scavengers, impure, and grungy. So it was an insult to call somebody a Kuon. And so he's using the word Kuon. He says beware of the dogs. The Jews would have understood who he was referring to.
This is the same word (KUON) that's used in Revelation 22:15.
do you perceive what the Holy Spirit of Truth is revealing here?
Hebrews 6:1
therefore leaving the doctrines of Christ---not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works. meaning sinning & repenting as a way of a Christian life
one of these doctrines was that of baptisms, its in the plural form, He's distinguishing from John's, which was only a type & shadow of Christ baptism. John only reach to the cleansing of the flesh, symbolic of the ritual cleansing of the Jewish law, which he was under.
Christ, the Substance brought the better things to come, the baptism that John point to & desired, it reaches to the heart, the center & seat of our very being. Hebrews 9:14
Cleansing out the seeds of the evil one. Hebrews 10:22 evil conscience--his presence must be there Mark 7:21
Thus, Holy Spirit is revealing there's Ephesians 4:5 that's required to reach to this state of perfection were we sin no more.
Friends, as I lay here, after responding to bro Dan last thread, I continue to feel the springs from the Fountain of Life bubbling up within me, my cup is running over, so I added then added again to that which I received,
Come on; Zechariah 13:1Isa 55:1-4 the Grace of God/ Light Rev 22:17
lets us Micah 4:2 the Jerusalem Gal 4:26 in Spirit & in Truth
I have always stated that in the end; God has a certain number of people that enter hell; and a set number in heaven and since God is fair and an impartial judge ( Romans 2:11) that no one will be able to prove Him wrong; or even want to question the final verdict. The wicked will be speechless and the righteous rejoice forever. This settles any issues with OSAS or Predestination for that matter; and even free will. There are those who hate the light and love darkness ( John 3:19-21).
There are as I mentioned before HUNDREDS of verses that on the surface may appear to render the OSAS concept void; but when we consider the context; the concluding meanings of the text and other factors more often than not it appears to support this idea. Again the scriptures that indate there is no longer any condemnation ( Romans 8:1) for believers; we have "passed from death to life ( John 5:24); will never die ( John 11:25) and a plethora of other supporting texts shows eternal security for a TRUE believer in Christ.
My emphasis was on the FRUIT of one's life rather than just what is verbalized. One's heart determines their course of action; the righteous is contrasted with the wicked shown in passages such as Mark 7:20-23. Christ for the wicked is a means to an end; whether it be financial security (such as for those who buy into the prosperity gospel or are out to borrow money and fleece those who are called to follow passages such as Luke 6:30.) Christ for the righteous on the other hand is God in the flesh and we are compelled through the Spirit and a new heart to serve with love and obedience (See John 14:15 and read rest of the chapter for further context). Again; loving our enemies and dying for them isn't something natural man will do (see Romans 5:7-9). If we understand the indebtedness we have to Christ and not just a band aid for our sin behavior but a death sentence to our SIN NATURE through the new life in Christ we are saved.
OSAS. True spiritual gifts vs false manifestations.
1 Corinthians 2:14 says: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Deuteronomy 32:28-29 states "For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!"
There are many reasons people may go to church and not be believers; a general statement would be there are many confessors but less who are POSSESSORS of the Holy Spirit. Focusing on earlier posts discussing how Satan focuses his attacks on the church we need in general to see how Satan is not only opposed to God but comes as s substitute; and mimics every spiritual gift in outward manifestations that may appear to be the same to the undiscerning (such as listed in 1 Corinthians 2:14 above).
As to spiritual manifestations; the "Kundalini" experience often mimics what are true spiritual experiences. We see mention in past revivals of people shaking or trembling at His Word which is scriptural ( Isaiah 66:2). But certain ritualaistic manifestations
cause abandon (usually coiling up like a snake on the floor). Godly sorrow certainly can cause weeping as was reported in many revivals from the past; uncontrollable laughter however is not something that seems edifying. Tongues of angels certainly can be imitated by demons as evidenced by experiences of those in the occult.
In looking at these "charismatic" gifts; we shoiuldn't ignore the "religious" spirit which involves endless ritual and legalistic practices that exceed the scope of the Word. The Pharisees added things with their traditions ( Mark 7:13 and other verses) and this was associated with pride; self righteous and leading others astray. (see Matthew 23:15). The opposite of this is using grace as a license to sin which Romans 6:1 warns about.
John 5:14 So a strong potion of Godly fear is now useful and pray for. So that you stay on the right path. And when impurity comes from the heart. What can we do? Example in Mat 15:19 and in
Mark 7:21 You know why and what happened. We run to Jesus! And you confess your wrongdoing. Then you must praise the Lord, thank and love Him. So don't make up and condemn yourself, what you once received, Jesus will never take back, you are forgiven Jesus says so. He knows your weaknesses, your tender heart, your regrets, and your tears.
We praise Your Holy Name Jesus Christ and pray to You with an open mind, and ask for forgiveness for all the wrongs "Siobhan" has done to You, to his fellow men and to himself. We thank You, Jesus, for Your great mercy and we praise Your Holy Name. Help him and have the right mind, directed towards You and Your salvation Lord God Almighty Father and Creator in Jesus Christ Holy Name, Amen. And teach him to fear You, Almighty, who are a fearsome God, So he will come out in the service that You have intended for him. In Jesus Christ holy name, Amen.
Love u in Christ Jesus.
Thoughts? Bob.
Just a little note, on how things and situations can be perceived. You are all so patient. I love you all in Christ. And remember it is okay to take a little break sometimes. Take care of yourself and all your others. And I have read your posts here and find this word dispensationalism completely beyond all reasonableness. It seems that this word is used a lot where you see a lot of money and in the laws of injustice. There you can change things, so that it fits into the plot. Law maybe it is used a lot in. And people experience a lot of injustice in the legal system. Look at those who are innocently convicted, or in disputes over inheritance. Where no one is really satisfied. And many other situations. In my shower room I have painted these words on the wall. "You are happiest if you are content with what you have". So greed must be far from me. Mark 7:21 Maybe I'm wrong, but in today's law books a lot has changed. Stay safe. Joh 21
The Lord God created all things. All things..
Good and bad, joy and sorrow, Isaiah 45:7 So we see these days that people don't want to hear this. They preach a God who is just compliant, sensibly agreeing with all the inconveniences that people find it okay to live in. The narrow path does not exist and everything is permitted. This is where we as Christians have a responsibility ourselves. Words that Jesus mentions are washed away with dust on a porch. But the fact is that the word shall never pass away Mat 24:35 and Mark 13:31 Words that all believers should think carefully about. If you have something like this in your life.Then throw it away, throw it into the deepest darkness, never take it back. Mark 7:21 and Mat 15:19 These words are very important, because we know that God created all things. ALSO all the Spirits small and great. Remember He saw everything when He created everything. Look at the different creatures in the animal world. Only there do we see that there is no fault with the imagination of the Lord. And not least the inequalities we people have. That's why we have to be alert to all things that are jarring. For example: You see your neighbor rolling a big cabin cruiser up the driveway to his beautiful house. And you feel a hint of envy. Because you've never even had a small dinghy. Right there! You have to be careful. Throw away the thought, preferably before it comes or before you think it! Such small pricks become big problems in the end.And harder for us to reveal
The Lord God created all things. All things..
Matthew 14:13 shows that Christ's retreat indeed was after hearing about John the Baptist's martyrdom; also mentioned in Mark 6. There are several things we observe here; first of all in this case the Disciples were in mind here as they had finished ministry work and the Lord indicated they would go retreat and rest. This wasn't to happen; as the crowds followed Him. Jesus nonetheless miraculously provided for them; and immediately after this we see His next issue with the Pharisees; that of eating with unclean hands in Mark 7. I had touched upon the Lord Himself in a post from a few months back. Surely His grief would have been great as John was said to be the most Godly man alive and instrumental to prepare the way for the Lord (see Matthew 11:11).
Anyway; as we explore Matthew 7 we see the hypocrisy indicated with the Pharisees and their greatest dilemma of unclean hearts trumping any issues with unclean hands. Thus; in general we see the ceremonial law is of no spiritual significance.
It serves for purification to enable one to physically survive in the presence of God (at least at that time) before His atoning sacrifice rendered it unnecessary. This showed the whole perspective of the Pharisees was self righteousness and their rules and regulations had no value with unclean souls. Jesus used a prophecy in Isaiah 29:13 in Mark 7:6 in His rebuke. Isaiah had much to say about God being sick and tired of religious sacrifices and offerings with impure hearts (see Isaiah 1:17 and following verses).
The rest of Mark 7 shows Jesus in the area of Tyre ministering to the Syrophoenician woman and commended her great faith; and He also ministered in the area of the Decapolis. For this brief excursion He got a break from the Pharisees; but in chapter 8 He once again has to confront them in regard to their hypocrisy.
"And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;"
Mark 7:19
"Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?"
Mark 7:20
"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man."
Blessings
Mark 7:21 Mat 28:18 So with Him we shallnotbeunder,butabovewithHim
Matthew 17:21: "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."
Matthew 18:11: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
Matthew 23:14: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."
Mark 7:16: "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."
Mark 9:44: "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 9:46: "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 11:26: "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."
Mark 15:28: "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."
Luke 17:36: "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."
John 5:4: "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."
Acts 8:37: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Acts 15:34: "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."
Acts 24:7: "But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"
Acts 28:29: "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
Romans 16:24: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."
I John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Christ was also referred to as the 2nd Adam ( 1 Cor. 15:45; also seen in Romans 5). Hence Adam was designed in the image of God but because of his sin it affected all his offspring therefore we inherited his sin nature during conception ( Psalm 51:5). Men at that time when Christ lived on the earth expected the Messiah to come to earth and vanquish them of their enemies; hence tried to make him king ( John 6:15). His reaction was to go to withdraw Himself to the mountains (likely to pray).
A cursory examination of the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 shows statements that at first seem to contradict the law; or at the very least make the ramifications more severe for our thoughts about things that may or may not become actions. This was illustrated with lusting after a woman being adultery in the heart; and more stringent laws on putting away one's wife. This explanation was brought out further in Matthew 19:8 with the Pharisees on the subject as to the concepts tied in with Deuteronomy 24. This shows that Christ was; as a member of the Godhead able to define and even change what was considered the law to make it more perfect as no one before Him ever was able to live out a sinless life following the law perfectly. Ultimately certain ceremonial laws were brought to an end as seen in Acts 10:15; but alluded to in Mark 7:18-19.
Hence the method of rituals related to the animal sacrifices also was to be ended with the New Covenant. Overall we can say the 10 Commandments as a moral law remain as a universal statute; although the mandatory 7th day of rest only given for Israel and its occupants has been replaced with Sunday as a day of rest although Colossians 2:16-17 says we should avoid disputes over Sabbath Days and I would add Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath ( Matthew 12:8). I am not here to get into a debate over that issue.
To have the law in our hearts was a future promise that Christ demonstrates ( Jeremiah 31:16-18).
I wouldn't hesitate to say that for Moses to be the only one who spoke to God face to face at such an intimate level; and David being a man after God's own heart ( 1 Samuel 13:14) that surely God could be said to be proud of His creation in some respect.
Any success or rewards come from an individual submitted to the Spirit and operating in God's strength rather than their own.
Nonetheless there are thrones and crowns in heaven, which will no doubt relate to levels of authority in the next life for at least the Millennium and perhaps for all eternity.
To fulfill a purpose in life ties into the good works predestined for us from the beginning of the world ( Eph. 2:10). To be considered exalted takes discipline to deny self and wisdom not to get in the way of the Lord. We all should take heart in the fact that God knows all our suffering ( Psalm 56:8). We also know the reason for all struggles is to accomplish His purposes ultimately so we don't have to view things as useless suffering or as the lost who have no hope after this life's struggles.
Perseverance and patience results in rewards ( 2 Tim. 4:8 and supporting verses).
Exaltation probably is understood as a similar word to pride; neither make any sense if it is self doing it. Only God in His perfection DESERVES acclamation and can be proud (if I can use that term); the best example would be the Father's exaltation of the Son after His obedient sufferings making the atoning sacrifice for men that He was predestined to save. Even with the Godhead it would be strange if Christ said He was proud of the Father and even more so with the Spirit making such a claim.
We of course are just dust with an outer tabernacle as it were soon to pass. As corrupted as our bodies are; our souls no doubt in God's site are far worse ( Mark 7:21-22 for laundry list). If Christ in His humbled state is referred to in Psalm 22:6 as a worm how much more so were we before being redeemed? Self pride is dumb.
Asia in this Context is Asian Minor which at the time of writing was held by Rome and is also identified as Asia in Revelation 1:4
Mystery Babylon is the Roman Empire, 2 Esdras above is speaking about Constantinople which the Ottoman Turks vanquished. The Roman Empire at the time contained the cities of the 7 churches in Revelation 1 and 2. Those 7 churches were cities within the Roman Empire at the time of writing.
Just as the Bride of Christ as a woman is a church, so too is the Whore and the Harlot daughters. The Bride of Christ is the true Church. The Whore and the Harlot daughters are false churches. They take the name of Christ, but they don't follow the Commandments of God. Specifically, they reject the 4th Commandment and in doing so they break all of the others too.
Luke 6:46
"And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"
Matthew 15:9
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Mark 7:8
"For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do."
Isaiah 4:1
And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
These Harlots and the Whore wear polluted Spiritual clothing. They eat Spiritually polluted bread. (They taint and serve polluted teaching as if it were the word of God) They claim to be Christian, but are Christian in name only, because they reject God's Commandments and teach doctrine of men in it's place. Those 7 women are the churches in Revelation 1 and 2. That man is Jesus Christ. The Whore is the Roman Catholic Church and the Harlot daughters are the churches that broke away, IE. Protestant, Baptist, etc... All keep Sunday rather than Saturday as Commanded and practice pagan rites/idolatry.
Q: "if we have the mind of Christ the heart of a believer must reflect the works is it not?"
A: Certainly. God formed man from the dust of the ground but heart defines a world and according to the everlasting covenant, this world is unseen. It is by works it's quality is determined. "He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works." (Ps.33:15) At the end of the Parable of Talents the certificate came from the Lord, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."(Matt.25:21).
This world corresponds to the same word of God with which he framed the worlds by faith so without faith no one shall please God. His world made to appear has the spiritual blessings freely given to man in his Son. It is thus each heart sets heaven in context of his soul. his inner man. Before healing the deaf and mute man he took him away from the crowd,"And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened." ( Mark 7:34). So we have heaven private for each, so we can understand what it means, "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty."(Ps.91:1) It is for the same reason Jesus asked the blind man to look up and he saw men as trees (Matt.8:24). From two examples we can understand our volume is not isolated from heaven or earth framed by God.(He.11:3) There is a great congregation to which we witness."I have preached righteousness in the great congregation."(Ps.40:8-9)
So we have the heart, a spiritual space and our works are considered under the eye of our Father which art in heaven. Does anyone delude oneself by serving God and mammon and say he is justified? Does any whitewashed sepulchre walk scotfree by espousing white evangelicalism? Oh no! God shall call them to account.
Sing, O ye heavens; for the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel."
Here the word of God is addressing the lower parts which refers to the outer darkness. Parables of Jesus made so much so clear. The nation of Israel proved to be unprofitable, their traditions of their made the word of God to none effect.(Matt.25:30; Mark 7:13).
"Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert." (Is.43:19) It is the Lord's doing and it is marvellous in our sight. The word of God does not change. Here is an example.
"When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."(De.32:8)
We see the inheritance of saints in light which refers to the day of salvation tagged as 'unto this day.' Jesus sets twelve throne for the apostles. " And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:29)
Similarly in that day we shall see how 'God may be all in all'.
The House of David and the inhabitants of Israel on the earth shall come under inheritance as God tells Moses. These allotment is according to the sons of Adam where the mingled race include both Jews and the Gentiles alike. The same 12 tribes shall be maintained as the eleven apostles gathered in the upper room before the day of Pentecost, the idea was to keep the number 12 in tact. As it is in heaven so it shall be on the earth. "Thy word is truth." Amen.
Mark 7:31 - And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis.
Again, Decapolis is referring to the 10 Greek cities around the Sea of Galilee.
Mark 8:2 - I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
The word compassion in Greek is the word SPLUNKNOSE, which is the Greek word for the intestines, the viscera. And what the Greeks would do in order to show a deep love, or a deep passion for something, they would use the inner organs of the body.
That's where we got term heart from, like "evil comes out of the heart." It is not talking about the muscle that pumps blood, it is talking about the spirit of man. And so, the Greeks would use the internal organs to identify, and SPLUNKNOSE, the viscera, or intestines had to do with genuine compassion.
Mark 8:8 - So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
Now here is something you're not going to catch in any English bible about this word "basket." In Mark Chapter 6, when He fed the 5000, they took up baskets, KHOPHANOS. The KHOPHANOS, taking up 12 baskets, it was like a carrying bag. And it is what people would take on trips to carry food in.
But here in Mark 8:8, we have a different word for baskets. It is the word SPURIDAS, and they are like the hamper baskets. These are huge things, so the disciples definitely are not taking these baskets. And we know from Mark 8:14 that they didn't take anything with them because they said "Hey, we don't have any bread. We forgot to take bread!" So obviously the multitudes got this food for their migration home.
Mark 7:3 - For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
So, they are holding the tradition, the HALACH, of the elders.
Mark 7:6 - He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Now we always think hypocrites is like a bad word, you know, like "You hypocrite!" But it is from the Greek word that means an actor. And what Jesus is doing is He is calling them for exactly what they are. This is what religion is. Religion is working on "acting" like you are supposed to. Whatever the laws, the rules, and traditions are, everything is from the outside, and you are disciplining yourself to act in a very religious way. So, He says actors! In other words, you are just playing the part.
The word hypocrite comes from the Greek word HUPOCRISIS, and it is a word that means to answer according to the script. And some people take the bible, and they work very hard at trying to act out the script. Jesus says Hypocrites, as it is written, and this is from Isaiah 29:13, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:9 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Again, this would be the HALACH.
Mark 7:26 - The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
So, the woman was a Greek. Now it doesn't mean that she was a Greek person. There were only two groups of people in the world at that time, Jew or Greek. A Greek was a heathen. So, she was a Greek (heathen), a Syrophenician by nation.
Mark 6:37 - He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
This is something else that we might not catch from our English text. The word pennyworth is the word DENARI in the Greek. A DENARI is one-day's wage. Now just so you know, 200 pennyworth (DENARI) is two hundred days wages. Today, if you walked into a candy store and asked for 200 pennyworth of candy, they are probably going to give you two-dollars' worth of candy.
Mark 6:42 - And they did all eat, and were filled.
The word filled means satisfied in the Greek.
Mark 6:43 - And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
The word for baskets is KOPHANOS. It is translated in our English bible as "basket," but it's actually a large carrying bag, not a basket. And there were 12 carrying bags full of food left over. How many disciples are there? Twelve, it's for them! They are going to fill their travel bags up with all this leftover food, and they are going to be touring the country, and they are going to be eating this food for themselves. And every time they take food out of that carrying bag, they are going to remember where it came from.
Mark 7:2 - And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
This is not one of those wash your hands before dinner things like they had dirty hands when they were eating. What they're saying is that they did not ceremonially wash their hands before they ate.
The reference is not to anything in the scriptures, nothing in the bible, or nothing in the law. It is called the HALACH. Every Jewish person knows what the HALACH is. It is the traditions of man. This book contains the traditions that Jews are to live by in light of the scriptures. Most of them you will not find in the Old Testament at all. It is just tradition.
"And he (Jesus) charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it."
Firstly the crowd became vocal in proportion to his command that they refrained. "For of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." ( Luke 6:46). The Spirit gave us another example that truth in inwards when touched by faith can go straight to the heart of the problem. The Syrophoenician woman having understood from the manner dogs behave about the family dinner lifted it to connect with the truth, and it was her faith than gave it wings and her daughter was healed instantly. Prophet Isaiah spoke og the word sent forth by God and it never returned in void. The preacher's verse underpinned her faith so the children's bread in fact came from the providence of God. It is thus faith draws its conclusions instantly when required. (Is.55:11;Ec.11:1)
By the same token the multitude overwhelmed by the deaf dumb man speaking plainly gave vent to a full throated praise, they could not refrain from telling to all and sundry. When Jesus rode through Jerusalem some of the Pharisees wanted Jesus to restrain the multitude. "And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."( Luke 19:40). The point is that truth will prevail always. These two illustrations have been included for our spiritual instruction.
Lastly when Jesus would heal the man "And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened./ And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain." (vv.34-35) We can infer that he healed him as the Son of man. The feeding of Five Thousand we compare with this healing. "fer that he healed him as the Son of man. The feeding of Five Thousand we compare with this healing.."Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth."
The word became flesh is distinct from the Son "whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds".In the case of the former as he himself confessed, "For the things concerning me there is an end" which refers to his humanity When he came into his own,"and his own received him not." But John adds,"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."(He.1:2; John 1:11-12). Nevertheless he is the Son master of his own house and Israel would learn the truth in the end to their utter dismay.
Here we have an illustration of what the house would mean. As a corollary to this we have a verse which could help us understand the select passage. "Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days."God has cast his bread, which is intended for His children. The word of God says it shall be found after many days.
In the light of the above let us examine the Syrophoenician woman, whom the nation of Israel considers as an outsider.
v.27 "But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs." He intended the house of Israel here. Whereas her answer showed the truth that was written by God in her inward parts. She was not merely speaking from her objective experience of what house dogs would do. She referred to the bread from heaven sent forth along the river of time. " And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs."
" For this saying go thy way."Jesus rewarded her for her saying, and it was faith put the Preacher's precept in real time, and it is what truth does.(Ec.11:1) "Prayer of Jesus has this line "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
"(Jesus)he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak."
As with the raising of Jairus' daughter Jesus does healing and St Mark intends us to see it as significant. "And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him./And he took him aside from the multitude,." In the case of the man with palsy, "And it was noised that he was in the house."(2:1) He saw the faith who found an ingenious way to get the man before Jesus. "When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee."(2:1-5,10) Who was Jesus? "But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins," it was faith that connected him to the world. His Father sent him with a mandate that made sin standing athwart man and his malady. So he addressed it by forgiving him. Their faith was good as of the impotent man.
Whether in the house or in the open, the man in need of a cure was on one-to -one with Jesus and faith was what effected the healing. In the case of the Syrophoenician woman who sought out Jesus when he visited their environs, the demon-possessed damsel was in her house while her mother displayed her faith. She was as much an intercessor as Jesus stood in relation to his Father. "Behold I and the children which God hath given me./ Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;/And deliver them.(He.2:13-15)" Her daughter was instantly healed as in the case of the deaf and dumb man. " And straightway his ears were opened,... and he spake plain."(v.35) What is the significance of a man's spittle when it was the means to heal him? It just proves," Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same." His humanity fits with his need.
" Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."
Parable of the Sower illustrates how the word sown in the heart of man fails to produce what is intended. God formed all hearts alike but the enemy slipping in tares speak of a heart that is let untended. It is a no man's land or the wayside where birds of the air can make away with the good seed. The heart is like a sluggard's field for many and with such what is truth? It is all things to all occasions. God commanded the man not to eat of the fruit of tree of knowledge of good and evil. But Eve let the serpent an occasion to hear his take on the matter. is truth to be treated for anyone to counsel how? Eve let the context determine her course of action. Her senses took over bypassing what was inscribed in her hearts. Ever since what has knowledge of good and evil given her? God cursed the ground, "for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;/ Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee;"(Ge.3:17-18)
Spiritual meaning of thorns and thistles we may glean from the Parable of the Sower. For instance the oncologists warns us of a troubling trend that Early onset cancer, which is defined as happening in adults under 50 years of age, is no anomaly. In fact, it is part of a rising global trend in which newly diagnosed cancer patients are getting younger. Further, it deflates the myth that cancer is the preserve of older people. Cumulative effect of sin treated so lightly for instance glossing over the works embedded in faith so fruits of the Spirit is produced by abiding life in Christ. How can those actively engaged in culture wars, and churches that ride the coattails of politicians come to the light lest their works of darkness be reproved by Christ? Instead the imposter religion has traditions of their elders. Sin never remains single but every evil work are carried on without let up
God framed the worlds by the word of God. So the Word lays down the constitution of His kingdom where both unseen and what was made to appear are complete in his Son Jesus Christ. (He.11:3; Col.1:19). Of him we received grace for grace which empowers us to not only believe in him and enjoy the liberty of producing the fruits of the Spirit. Besides the blessings of his Father in him also has given us the peace which is not as the world can give so death signifies only dissolution of our vile bodies. Everlasting life that comes with faith shall continue.
Mark narrates how the Pharisees and the scribes coming from Jerusalem were offended at the disciples of Jesus. "Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?"(v.5). How did the tradition of the elder become the Law without God permitting doctrine of men supersede his word? Recent news illustrates the same dilemma. Is Constitution of a nation and their Bill of Rights are to be given same sanctity and worshiped? Jesus did drive out those who made it a business, "And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."(Matt.21:13). There is a place where state's business are transacted and when we pray it has to be done with all our heart our soul and might. This is how tradition of the elders where money is to be made becomes a doctrine. Where does it come from? Not from unwashed hands but from the heart of man. " For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,/Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:/All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."(vv.21-23)
What goes into the mouth shall find their own passage while what comes out of heart can be very deceptive. So love of God is either whole hearted for his glory or none at all.
When attempting to bring attention to man's deplorable state of heart Wh( Jeremiah 17:9) I have found in my own self examination that it is best to evaluate all that we consider what Phillipians 4:8 states and then look at our own heart and soul carefully.
When we seek all that men may say is kind; benevolent; compassionate; etc. and try to find pleasure in life apart from God of course we look to other religions and usually end up in a humanistic mentality. We ascribe to others as well who seem to portray such attributes as somehow "enlightened". I can only speak for myself as a man here; but how much of the flesh is appealed to in today's "Christian" music industry? If someone is young; thin and attractive does it move us as much as someone who is a bit overweight and unattractive who performs on stage? Do we favor those in our own social circles or families above others? What are our motives when we serve others?
Such logic of course often results in men not appreciating what God does provide such as a wife mentioned in Proverbs 18:22.
To find the "grass greener on the other side of the field" people think it worthwhile to get a new model and get rid of the spouse that they have been granted by covenant; something Malachi 2:15 says we should not do (also see Proverbs 15:18-20). Interestingly Proverbs 15:8 just before that talks about the sacrifice of the wicked being detestable as contrasted to prayers of the righteous.
Of course many hate God outright; at least being honest about their intentions; accusing God often of being a "killjoy" and sometimes being an admitted Satanist "do as thou wilt" mentality. Of course we have to look at men's obvious evil acts; so we have laws God has set forth to keep order. With all the self professed benefits of "freedom" we see the end result in the fruits of violence and discord in society that many possess or develop as the cultish mentality comes out. Mark 7:21 is the end result.
Remembering the Pharisees shows us a prime example of how not to use scripture. Mark 7:11 is exhibit one in this subject matter; where for financial gain the needs of a parent were said to be avoided and was used in their logic to exonerate themselves for what was "dedicated to God". Psalm 105:15 stating to do no harm to God's anointed ones or prophets has also been mishandled by the "prosperity" preachers in particular and could of course be used by any cult leaders who are false prophets.
Again we know how much Satan knows scripture. Anything that can be used to tickle men's ears and misused such as God's promises for blessings being boiled down to presumption of financial gain for all of God's people is made even more insane when attempting to justify such logic with other scriptures. Jesus was clearly a man of sorrows as Isaiah prophesied; and was essentially homeless; or at least a full time missionary along with the disciples; fully dependent on God for provisions. If He could state that we shouldn't concern ourselves with food and clothing ( Matthew 6:25) it is more than a stretch to entrust him for a Lamborghinis or jet plane. Note that Jesus didn't even mention SHELTER; and also indicated that the Son of Man has no place to lay His head ( Matt. 8:20). No point going further on that subject!
A further consideration ties in with what I mentioned about the Pharisees in regard to making scriptures legalistic to maintain pride. This used to be more popular when parents were strict with children two and three generations ago. It still occurs in some denominations today under a guise of "holiness" but seen for what it is when Christ's love isn't on display. We can list all day long what we don't do or don't permit; but we also need to realize that it is the love of Christ that constrains us and draws people in ( 2 Cor. 5:14; John 12:32).
in short; scripture is truth unless used for another agenda
That the pastor always stays focused on the True Light of This World, our Lord Jesus Christ, The Light beam that will help us walk throught this vast abyss, called the labyrinth of the mind and flesh, matter and spirit. That is carved with sin from our hearts since the day we where born from our mothers, every corridor is full of temptations, distractions and deceptions, it only emanates malice within us like you said my Lord in Mark 7:20-23.
Thats what the labyrinth always do, to dissolve us to the path of death, to confuse us.
My Lord, in believe in your word, that you will help all those who believes in YOU and seeks YOU with sincerity in their hearts, to conquer this labyrinth with rectitude, temperance, love, and dilligence in The Holy Spirit that guides your congregation to the Truth in growth and wisdom.
Because no man, nor woman, nor angels, nor demons can conquer it, only YOU, the Son of God, the Eternal GOD. Because all things where made in YOUR NAME, by YOU and for YOU. You are our Light, The God that became man, and gave his blood for Me in the cross, and resurrected in the third day and all those who believe in you, have Eternal life.
Even if our bones mangled in dirt, turning into dust, your Holy Spirit will remember us your promise, and from our graves well resurrect back to your Holy Word, as a new being, no longer possesing this corpse of corruption.
May the Lord extend his arm at your aid, and in remembrance of His Grace comforts you all in HIS WORD in Jesus Christ, so that you my sister and brothers take your cross, to become the perfect bride. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
The term dogs in Philippians 3:2 is actually making reference to a religious phrase. The Gentiles were considered dogs by the Jews.
There are two words in the New Testament that have to do with a dog. KUNARION ( Matthew 15:26 and Mark 7:27) is a household pet. And then we have a KUON. A Kuon is a wild scavenger. And that's the animal used here.
Gentiles were called Kuon's, wild scavengers, impure, and grungy. So it was an insult to call somebody a Kuon. And so he's using the word Kuon. He says beware of the dogs. The Jews would have understood who he was referring to.
This is the same word (KUON) that's used in Revelation 22:15.
do you perceive what the Holy Spirit of Truth is revealing here?
Hebrews 6:1
therefore leaving the doctrines of Christ---not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works. meaning sinning & repenting as a way of a Christian life
one of these doctrines was that of baptisms, its in the plural form, He's distinguishing from John's, which was only a type & shadow of Christ baptism. John only reach to the cleansing of the flesh, symbolic of the ritual cleansing of the Jewish law, which he was under.
Christ, the Substance brought the better things to come, the baptism that John point to & desired, it reaches to the heart, the center & seat of our very being. Hebrews 9:14
Cleansing out the seeds of the evil one. Hebrews 10:22 evil conscience--his presence must be there Mark 7:21
Thus, Holy Spirit is revealing there's Ephesians 4:5 that's required to reach to this state of perfection were we sin no more.
Friends, as I lay here, after responding to bro Dan last thread, I continue to feel the springs from the Fountain of Life bubbling up within me, my cup is running over, so I added then added again to that which I received,
Come on; Zechariah 13:1 Isa 55:1-4 the Grace of God/ Light Rev 22:17
lets us Micah 4:2 the Jerusalem Gal 4:26 in Spirit & in Truth
in love & truth
I have always stated that in the end; God has a certain number of people that enter hell; and a set number in heaven and since God is fair and an impartial judge ( Romans 2:11) that no one will be able to prove Him wrong; or even want to question the final verdict. The wicked will be speechless and the righteous rejoice forever. This settles any issues with OSAS or Predestination for that matter; and even free will. There are those who hate the light and love darkness ( John 3:19-21).
There are as I mentioned before HUNDREDS of verses that on the surface may appear to render the OSAS concept void; but when we consider the context; the concluding meanings of the text and other factors more often than not it appears to support this idea. Again the scriptures that indate there is no longer any condemnation ( Romans 8:1) for believers; we have "passed from death to life ( John 5:24); will never die ( John 11:25) and a plethora of other supporting texts shows eternal security for a TRUE believer in Christ.
My emphasis was on the FRUIT of one's life rather than just what is verbalized. One's heart determines their course of action; the righteous is contrasted with the wicked shown in passages such as Mark 7:20-23. Christ for the wicked is a means to an end; whether it be financial security (such as for those who buy into the prosperity gospel or are out to borrow money and fleece those who are called to follow passages such as Luke 6:30.) Christ for the righteous on the other hand is God in the flesh and we are compelled through the Spirit and a new heart to serve with love and obedience (See John 14:15 and read rest of the chapter for further context). Again; loving our enemies and dying for them isn't something natural man will do (see Romans 5:7-9). If we understand the indebtedness we have to Christ and not just a band aid for our sin behavior but a death sentence to our SIN NATURE through the new life in Christ we are saved.
1 Corinthians 2:14 says: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Deuteronomy 32:28-29 states "For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!"
There are many reasons people may go to church and not be believers; a general statement would be there are many confessors but less who are POSSESSORS of the Holy Spirit. Focusing on earlier posts discussing how Satan focuses his attacks on the church we need in general to see how Satan is not only opposed to God but comes as s substitute; and mimics every spiritual gift in outward manifestations that may appear to be the same to the undiscerning (such as listed in 1 Corinthians 2:14 above).
As to spiritual manifestations; the "Kundalini" experience often mimics what are true spiritual experiences. We see mention in past revivals of people shaking or trembling at His Word which is scriptural ( Isaiah 66:2). But certain ritualaistic manifestations
cause abandon (usually coiling up like a snake on the floor). Godly sorrow certainly can cause weeping as was reported in many revivals from the past; uncontrollable laughter however is not something that seems edifying. Tongues of angels certainly can be imitated by demons as evidenced by experiences of those in the occult.
In looking at these "charismatic" gifts; we shoiuldn't ignore the "religious" spirit which involves endless ritual and legalistic practices that exceed the scope of the Word. The Pharisees added things with their traditions ( Mark 7:13 and other verses) and this was associated with pride; self righteous and leading others astray. (see Matthew 23:15). The opposite of this is using grace as a license to sin which Romans 6:1 warns about.