Discuss Mark 7 Page 2

Hi Jesse

it wasn't a light things in Paul's day to be a Christian, one could experience the things that Saul did to Christians, before he became Paul.

you stated:

We are to judge those who are inside. Why? Because those inside the church who are involved in sin, they must be dealt with in order that they might repent."detailing a person who has not yet repented"

Paul's speaking about being a member of the body of Christ here, how can one be in the church, & has not yet repented?

a quote from William Penn

Sin is of one nature the world over. For though a liar is not a drunkard,

nor a swearer a whoremonger, nor either properly a murderer, yet they are

all of one church; all branches of the one wicked root, all of kin. They have

but one father, the devil, as Christ said to the professing Jews, the visible

church of that age. He slighted their claims to Abraham and Moses, and

plainly told them that "everyone who sins is a slave to sin" ( John 8:34).

The Jewish religious leaders did the devil's work, and therefore were the

devil's children. The argument will always hold upon the same reasons, for

as Paul said: you are slaves to the one whom you obey, ( Rom 6:16); and

said John to the church of old, "Let no man deceive you; he that commits

sin is of the devil" ( 1 John 3:7-8). Was Judas ever the better Christian for

crying, "Hail, Master," and kissing Christ? By no means; they were the

signal of his treachery; the signs given so the bloody Jews could identify

Him and arrest Him. Judas called Him Master, but betrayed Him;

he kissed, but sold Him to be killed; the same is the result of the

false Christian's religion.

how many who would call themselve Christian's today, members of His Body, fall underneath this judgment & be put away because of their continuing in sin?

society today is a direct reflection of the state of this false church of Rev 17 preaching you can be a Christian & yet continue in sin. Mark 7:7 Titus 1:11

in love & truth Rev 18:4

A day in the life of Christ ( Mark 6-8 example)

Before discussion on the giftings in the Spirit which Christ would utilize; I thought the general content of the messages would be pertinent to the subject at hand. Healing was something in the miraculous that Christ seemed to be unrestrained in procuring throughout His traveling ministry; with the exception being the Pharisees and those in His own hometown.

Mark 6

4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief.

The above example may be a classic case of "not seeing the forest through the trees." Those who knew Him best really knew Him the least. Seeing who He is; of course only comes through Divine guidance. Mark 7:29 shows the example further explained in Matthew 16:17 where it says that only the Father reveals this kind of information. In any case; Christ would go out of His way even to a Syrophoenician woman; to perform a healing ( Mark 7:26).

So; let us briefly review Jesus' ministry to others as we earlier examined His personal prayer life.

Ministry to the Pharisees and those of His hometown. Unbelief was; to say the least a fundamental principle in ministry to his local contacts and the Pharisees. It was; you may say a "necessary evil" as the Pharisees were entrusted to the law (which they added many further ordinances to put men in bondage). There was still a procedure whose framework Jesus expected people to follow; but not their hypocritical actions ( Matthew 23:3). So until Jesus was crucified and Resurrected He needed to deal with them; largely so that the rest of the Jewish believers could be able to worship in the soon to be abrogated Old Covenant ways.

Ministry to the crowds.

Ministry to individuals.

Ministry to the Disciples

More to come.

So true. King Herod's own paranoia caused him to destroy his adversaries (executing 45 of Israels wealthiest makeing their wealth his own) and his wives & family (because of greed including friends of Queen Cleopatra). Herod built a temple..19bc- 63ad..Remember, God knows all.! Our Life's in His hands. His will be done by allowing His 1 & Only Son to shed His blood ONCE and FOR "ALL SIN". Which inturn, Instantly demolished 613 laws becoming two. It's very simple to know yet harder to swallow for the hard heart. #1. Love God w/All your being & 2. Your neighbor as yourself. Do these, & you shall inherit the kingdom of God.! Period. Loving & praying for ALL, even our enimies.! Continuing to live by 'the law' we shall die by the law.! We now live by Faith in Gods heavenly Grace because He first loved us sending His Son for a FINAL Blood sacrifice.!! Readers: do not forget, Jesus spoke in parables & we are to study His word learning what He meant. Not pick and choose our own selfish outcome. It's ALL for His glory, in His time. Trying to live otherwise is futile & will lead to our demise. He created 1 race and 2 genders just as ..We have 2 choices to end up in 1 eternity. "Love, peace & prayers to those w/a hard heart & corrupt mind". Father in heaven hear my voice, I ask for all to open their minds & hearts to your truth bringing all to their knees. In Jesus name, Amen.! Matt 15:24/ Mark 7:27 reads to a set ppl for a set time. God has rightly divided the bible & demands we learn His word. He may have been *INRI* yet He came to save ALL. All means All. Forgive them Father for they know Not what they do.! As Jesus said "it is finished". 344/49/7

Chris, 'page 2 & 3;

"you don't know why I would bring up this matter, as it pertains to our discussion. When in Truth, it reaches to the very heart of it.

Going to the letter, in Hebrew or Greek etc; as you quoted & spoke from, comes from the traditions & teaching of man, the wisdom that's from below, earthy, which makes Mark 7:13, which sprang up in the Apostasy. Isa 55:8,9;

Whereas coming to the Spirit, our Teacher; The Word Rom 10:8; that comes Rom 10:17; within us, produces the fruit, the Word intended Isa 55;11; Isa 14:27;

Bringing this part of the conversation to a conclusion, by giving "the cause & effect of the learning from the letter, verses being taught by God Himself.

1Cor 2:10 which is freely & lavishly given unto us in Christ. Col 2:2,3; Proverbs 8:14;

You said; you don't subscribe to this type of application of sanctification ; citing verses with the word meaning; its plain to me that your faith is coming from books, & not our Teacher; who is Hebrews 12:2. Your trying to understand spiritual things by carnal means, Thus this faith you have is 2Timothy 3:7 Meaning; it will never bring one to the experiential knowledge of God; in Spirit & in Truth. Matt 11:27; For God is a Spirit & only by His Spirit is He manifested & known.

Jeremiah 31:33,34; New Covenant, he's prophesying, not that he partook of it, 1Peter 1:10; & yet he was cleansed & holy under the gospel of his dispensation 2 Peter 1:21; as many were Luke 1:5,6;

Again; what God requires of us, is to walk upright in the knowledge that He has given us.

Thank you for your kind apology, no offense taken, just a misunderstanding. Believe me, in this slow progressive work of sanctification, I've have had many misunderstanding & faltering, receiving His reproofs & admonishments, I've learnt Daniel 4:37; I love the way He gets to me. He always "hit the nail on the head" so to speak,& why? Daniel 2:22, Psalms 36:9;

you have experience Him in Spirit, Chris (in the car)

in Love & Truth

Frankie J

Salvation and assurance: Part 2

Some of us like to cherry pick our way through the scriptures; but if we look at the whole history of man; the nation of Israel and even the church in the New Testament there are many problems and snares that were in Paul's time in the early church; and prophetically were warned about by Paul; Peter and Timothy as well as John in Revelation and James as well in regard to the last days. We need to both appreciate the fact that we need to walk the straight and narrow path that few find ( Matthew 7:14); and yet not be Pharisitical in inventing the narrowest most difficult path of legalism that heads to hell. In the whole subject and as much as can be understood about predestination and whatever free choices man is given while on this earth as to his life; in the end a certain number are saved and also lost. We can say with some confidence that as Jesus stated

"you shall know them by their fruits". ( Matthew 7:15-20). There are numerous passages describing these; which are summarized in Galatians 5:22. Bad fruits such as listed in Mark 7:21 are things which the Spirit should be weeding out of our lives.

However; when it becomes clear in the long term where one's affiliations lie; we can't make the mistake of sins; even some recurring ones as proving someone isn't saved. This is where the Lord will use a rebuke to work on someone; ultimately people in the faith need to listen to the Lord as He refines and chastises them. 1 John 1:8-10 make it pretty clear that none of us even if saved are without sin; or haven't sinned in years as some like to proudly proclaim. There are clearly some much more advanced intheir maturity than others; closer to the prize. Some are more "carnal" than others; it doesn't excuse continuing that way but again we hopefully learn not to do certain things after being a believer 20 years than say 3 weeks. Saying that he confesses us as called and chosen is needed along with whatever we may proclaim.

Pharisees and scribes asked Jesus

Mark 7:5- 9 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Any Philosophy that adds to or changes the word of God, the tradition/Doctrine of Jesus Christ is tradition/doctrine of Men, Easter is another example.

Subverting? The definition I found is "disrespectful to establishment " "undermine power & authority " Matthew 6, Matthew 7,

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 23, Mark 7:6, James 3:17,

John 2,

Hopefully these are helpful

Leviticus 26, Psalms 10:2,4, Psalms 73, Proverbs 11:2, Proverbs 13:10, Proverbs 14:3, Proverbs 16:18, Proverbs 29:23, Isaiah 28:1, Jeremiah 13:9-10, Jeremiah 49:16, Ezekiel 16:49, Daniel 4:37, Obadiah 1:3, Mark 7:20-23,

2Chronicles 32:26,

Hopefully you will find these helpful

What is sin? The first thoughts that come to mind are the obvious outer symptoms through one's behaviors when something is manifest such as anger. The next level is the thoughts and intentions of the heart; which caused an outer veneer of obedience to the law with the Pharisees; but much deeper transgressions with religious exercised in such a way that they could still get what they want (for instance; when they would be covetous disregarding the needs of their families) shown in Mark 7:6-9 and other verses speaking of their greed. The same principle exists for evil thoughts that lead to actions such as lust; adultery; fornication etc. ( Matt. 15:19).

The significant factor often missing from these analogies is breaching of a covenant. This is why those; for instance, who have remarried without scriptural permission are very hypocritical focusing on others who are living together who weren't under such a covenant. But marriage today is viewed at the human level as a contract; rather than a covenant with the eternal God between one man and woman that is to be permanent for life; and which encompasses vows from each party (at least traditionally) implying the penalties should such a pact be broken. This is similar to God's covenant people in the nation of Israel; where God had called them out from bondage. Their knowledge being present while the miracles occurred and seeing God's providence after the Exodus in the desert made them more responsible when they fell into practices of the pagan nations.

But; as scripture states not all Israel was true Israel ( Romans 9:6-7). There are many verses where emphasis is placed on keeping vows in the O.T.

Finally; anything we know is right and fail to do is sin ( James 4:17-loosly translated). We should at all times keep our commitments unless it becomes impossible not to go against scriptural conduct in our lives. We need also to be careful to do things of obedience out of love of God not self promotion.

I hope you will get other answers too.

I've understood it as watching dark things, allowing unholy images inside, instead turn away. Matthew 6:22-23,

Mark 9:47, Matthew 18:9, Luke 11:34-36, also seems to emphasise purity in what we see, choices. Mark 7:20-23, Matthew 20:15, it's used as harsh judgement, possibly seeing through judgemental eyes. Also Luke 6:42,

Hope this is helpful

Please read Psalms 37, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:12,

Take heart sister, GOD knows & it's all through the Bible that HE cares about how people are treated. Especially in HIS Church: Matthew 23:13

Matthew 23, Mark 7:6, John 15:18, Matthew 7:15-27,

Read Also: Romans 12, whole chapter

Hopefully these help & encourage you, also guide you to keep on smiling & blessing,

I agree with Daniel's post. There are indeed lists of sins throughout the Bible, but not organized in the way you describe which probably has catholic roots.

Examples:

1 John 2:16

Mark 7:21-23

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Galatians 5:19-21

etc.

Yes Carol, Jesus knew other languages. In Mark 5:41, Jesus was using His oft-spoken language of Aramaic (sometimes referred to as Syro-Chaldaic), the then language of Palestine. You can see other uses of this 'tongue' in: Mark 7:34 (Ephphatha); Mark 14:36 (Abba); Matthew 5:22 (Raca), are some examples.

Matthew 21:21-22,

GOD's WORD says seek & you shall find, knock & it shall be opened, Matthew 7:7, Luke 11:9, Luke 1:37, Luke 18:27, Mark 10:27,

Ask & you shall receive, say with your mouth believe with your heart & it will happen. Mark 9:23, John 16:23,24, John 14:13,14, John 15:16,

Mark 11:22-26,

That doesn't just apply to believers GOD even gives people over Romans 1:18-32,

Matthew 17:20, Hebrews 11:6,

Mark 14:36,

James 4:3,

James 4,

Please stay within scripture, write it upon your heart. Proverbs 7:1-3, Deuteronomy 11:18, Proverbs 3:3,

Mark 7:9, Mark 7:13, Colossians 2:8,

Hopefully these are helpful & insightful

Additional scripture for you:

Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,

* Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,

Matthew 23:13,14,

Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,

Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,

John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,

Acts 15, Acts 23,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding

Deuteronomy 28, note: Deuteronomy 28:58, Deuteronomy 28:15, Deuteronomy 28:28, Matthew 15:22-28, Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:27-30, Luke 4:33-43, Luke 8:26-40, Luke 9:35-50, Acts 10:38, James 4:7, 1John 3:8, Jude 1:9,

Deuteronomy 28:1-14, Exodus 23:25, Matthew 4:23,

Luke 9:55-56,

Jeremiah 32:27, Jeremiah 32:17, Luke 1:37,

Hopefully these are helpful

Madison,

I believe the verses spoken by Jesus below confirms that masturbation is sinful - if not in conjunction with a spouse.

Matthew 5:28

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

Mark 7:21

"For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,"

God Bless.

Here are the scriptures I found concerning dead, in regards to The church.

John 5:19-21,

Early church was instructed

Matthew 10:8, Matthew 10:1-42,

Matthew 8:22, Mark 16:17-18,

Leviticus 21:1-4,

Leviticus 21:10-12,

Numbers 5:1-3, Numbers 19:11-22

Perhaps tradition started after early church hoping for miracle? Mark 7:6-9,

Scripture concerning Apostles :

Romans 1:1, Colossians 1:1, 1 Corinthians 1:1, 1Peter 1:1, 2Timothy 1:1, Galatians 1:1, 2 Corinthians 12:12,

* 1 Corinthians 12:27-28, 1 Corinthians 12, in context*

Additional Matthew 23:8-12, Matthew 23, in context

Hopefully these are helpful

John 11:55, Mark 14:12, John 6:4, Luke 22:1,

John 12:1,12,13, John 13:1-2,

Matthew 27:15,

1st Sabbath being the Passover feast.

Exodus 12,

2nd Sabbath Matthew 28:1,

Psalms 81:3, also significant Mark 15:33, total solar Eclipse, New moon?

We should be careful not to follow after traditions set up by men, but Study to understand. Colossians 2:8, Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:9

Why would Jesus rebuke them over tradition? Because even today it causes doubt, & confusion amongst the church.

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful. GOD's WORD is truth.

Tradition is not 100% reliable.

Leviticus 11 are the food laws. In Acts 10 the Lord deals with Peter for refusing to eat food he believed unclean. 3 times.

Food cooked responsibly and received with prayer and thanksgiving is clean. The power of "clean" is in Jesus Name.

Even John the Baptist ate roasted locusts. Follow the scriptures and don't be in bondage to laws. The law is the School Master until Grace comes; who is Jesus.

Leviticus 11:1-47 - And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, (Read More...)

Deuteronomy 14:1-29 - Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. (Read More...)

Mark 7:19 - Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Titus 1:15 - Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Acts 10:14 - But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Mark 7:1-37 - Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. (Read More...)

Romans 14:2 - For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Leviticus 11:44 - For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Mishael

In verses 31 through 37, what a Merciful God The Lord Jesus Christ is. How wonderful that Our Lord in Pure Holy Perfection creates and bestows with His Word the gifts of Life in Hearing and Speaking, that this man received the opportunity to both receive Faith through Hearing the Word of God and in speaking the Praises that only Christs Grace gives True Believers through their tongues. This is The Lord's doing and it leaves us all beyond measure astonished.

People's Bible Notes for Matthew 10:35

I am come to set a man at variance against his father. This was not the Savior's object, but the effect. The conversion of individual members of the family would cause variance. In nearly all quarrels, except those about religion, the members of the same family stand together, but in religious feuds the family circle is often broken and its parts arrayed against each other.

Wesley's Notes for Mark 7:22

Wickedness - The word means ill natured, cruelty, inhumanity, and all malevolent affections. Foolishness - Directly contrary to sobriety of thought and discourse: all kind of wild imaginations and extravagant passions.

One sign that you have received the holy spirit is the presence of the fruit of the Spirit. "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. ... Growth takes time, and you can be patient with yourself as you grow in the fruit of the Spirit.

12 FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

The 12 fruits are charity (or love), joy, peace, patience, benignity (or kindness), goodness, longanimity (or long-suffering), mildness (or gentleness), faith, modesty, continency (or self-control), and chastity.

Gods Nature=

Omnipotence - God is all-powerful - everything consistent with God's nature is possible. Omniscience - God is all-knowing, of past, present and future. Omnibenevolence - God is all-good/all-loving. Omnipresence - God is present everywhere.

Conceit = obsessive pride in self

Mark 7:22

Proverbs 13:10

Proverbs 16:18

Psalms 10:4

Hope these help

Hi Dan, thanks for your comments. Please know that my response is given in love with my only intention to glorify the Lord.

I understand what you are saying about not turning down service providers based on if they are believers or not, I certainly would not turn down bypass surgery or roof repair because the provider was not a believer; however, those services are quite different than "spiritual" or "mind" service providers. Heart surgery or roof repair is not doctrine or the word of God and has nothing to do with salvation or living a Godly life or solving behavioral (heart) problems ( Jeremiah 17:9, Mark 7:20-23).

When it comes to obeying the Lord and following His word, psychology just seems to be a secular (and ungodly) look at behavior. It is an attempt to explain why we do things and what the solution is without referring to God and His word. Psychology is an invention from worldly men who denied Jesus Christ (people like Freud, Wundt, Jung, Skinner, etc). Some psychologists even merge the word of God and secular theory which seems unbiblical to me (we are to be set apart from this world - John 15:19, Romans 12:1-3, 1 John 2:15-17).

I guess what I am really asking is - to put it how you were phrasing it - if someone was 'sick' (spiritually) why would they go to a secular physician (psychologist) and not a spiritual physician (Jesus)? We even have a behavioral manual (the Word). The bible seems to continually say that the Lord and His word are sufficient, exactly what we need and that we should avoid the wisdom of men ( 2 Timothy 2:15-16, 2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Peter 2:25, Hebrews 4:14-16, Isaiah 55:7-9). 1 Corinthians 2:11-16. When we become a Christian, we have the mind of Christ, which is spiritual - not worldly. Jesus is our counselor ( Isaiah 9:6) and he knows us ( John 2:25).

It seems that as a Christian we either believe that the word of God is sufficient for all spiritual problems or we don't.

BTW - this is not for me, it involves a family member.

Dear IMKane,

The Holy Bible and God's Word is not a puzzle as some would like others to believe. The simple, the meek, the humble, and the children will inherit God's Kingdom. With that said, we don't have to get a PhD in theology to understand God's Word because if we are sincere, and humble, LIKE CHILDREN, God's Holy Sprit will teach us THE TRUTH.

Again, the scripture spoken by Jesus is very simple to understand and sums it all up:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Jesus said the commandments (Law) will last until heaven and earth pass/end. Heaven and earth have not passed YET, so the law is still in place!

Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

The apostles did strive to keep the commandments, please see scripture below:

1 John 2:3

"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."

If we let others lead us away from the TRUTH with the "popular faith and grace argument" we are blinded to the THRUTH!

Mark 7:9

"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."

So in summary, we can keep God's commandments and walk in his ways, or follow your own man made tradition, as stated above in Mark7:9

God Bless

Hey Jan,

The Bible does not contradict itself; the traditions of men do. When we read with all those preconceived ideas and traditions, we cannot hear the Holy Spirit of truth. I am sure the word just popped out telling you this does not match. Jesus busted the Pharisees, ( Mark 7:4-9), traditions are of man. The tradition of Adam and Eve being the first humans is a tradition.

I am not of the group of a world before this one and it was destroyed, but you are correct the six days do not line up with the second chapter with Adam and Eve. The purpose of Adam is what gets lost, was it to start humankind or the start of the plan of our salvation, being the first Adam and Jesus the last Adam to undo the works of Satan. Due to the flood, we are all descendants of Adam.

Things to look at, the word earth, h-'-re #776 meaning earth, land, countries. And field, the word field ( ha--eh). Strongs #7704 meaning; field, land, agriculture. All the plants in day three were self-producing no cultivation needed. Second chapter it had not rained because there was not a man to till the ground. These were plants of the field, you must plant and till a garden or it will not grow, (husbandry).

The animals in chapter two were of the field (domesticated), the fowls were out of the ground (domesticated) not out of the water as day five. This clearly is another creation and one would have to deny or ignore what scripture clearly says to fit a tradition.

Man, male and female in day six were told be fruitful, multiply and replenish (to fill) the earth, subdue it and have dominion over all thee earth that God had created. Adam and Eve were in the garden, could they do what was told man in day six? No. If we say it was after they were cast out of the garden could God say at the end of day six all was very good? No. Adam and Eve sinned and they did not multiply until they were cast out of the garden.

I know this is not a lot of info but may it help.

RLW

I'm doing research on Historical Bible mistakes and contradictions. The work is as expansive as hidden crimes come to life. For those who make up excuses for the current Bible errors, shame on you. These errors have already been corrected, and no thanks to the people who pleaded against the changes, saying God makes no mistakes. God is perfect, people are not.

in 1860, William Henry Burr produced a list of 144 self-contradictions in the Bible.

A 1716 edition of the 17th-century King James version (known as the Party Bible) replaces "Sin no more" from Jeremiah 31:34 with "Sin on more". There were 8,000 copies printed before anyone noticed.

"Let the children first be killed" is Mark 7:27 and it's supposed to be: "Let the children first be filled." A 1795 edition of the King James version.

"If the latter husband ate her" Known as the Cannibal's Bible, a 1682 printing alters this passage from Deuteronomy 24:3, which is meant to read: "If the latter husband hate her."

" I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." Genesis 32:30

"No man hath seen God at any time" John 1:18

"The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father" Ezekiel 18:20

"I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation" Exodus 20:5

Continued...

2 Corinthians Chapter 5

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

Let us Read from Mark 7: about the Centurions request to Jesus. Also, Jesus's reply to the Centurion. Let us not disregard Job 1. Satan has no authority of his own; to take our life from us. Not anymore. Jesus took the Keys of death and the grave, away from Satan at the finished work of the Cross.

Have you called your Church to come and pray for you? The Pastor and his devoted prayer warriors?

The Body of Christ are the Hands of Jesus; His mouth, His Will working, through them. Don't shun them because you think you're contemplating suicide. This is not that.

Apostle Paul had been stoned, beat up, in prison, starved, cursed, ship wrecked, bit by a deadly viper, called a heretic by the Jews: he wanted to go be with Jesus! But he stuck it out a while longer, so he could plant churches WITHIN Jesus's followers. He died horribly at the hands of the Romans. You're going to meet Paul :)

If your work is finished here; and you've "set your house in order", it is no sin to decline the machines. That's not a suicide. If after you've read all these scriptures and you called in your Church to pray for you: it is between you and your Lord. He is touched by your infirmities and suffering. God is not going to suffer you to be kept alive by a machine. Be at peace. Psalm 23.

May God's angels stand around your beside and protect you.

Hi Gary,

I am very happy that you liked the post I put together of basically "sins or evil things" we should stay away from. I added a couple things though most of it is from the NT. I actually started taking notes of these things and have all the verses that I would like to share with you as it seems you are taking notes of these things also for your sermons. This will give you all the places, and a couple more, where I got those things I posted:

Mark 7:20-23, Romans 1:21-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:16-21, Ephesians 5:5, Hebrews 12:14, 2 Timothy 3:1-5, James 1:19-22, Colossians 3,

As some things are noted in several places so I had to delete things so they would not show up twice.

Knowing this may help you preaching to others I am very thankful to put in my little bit to help. All glory to the Lord.

God Bless you on your journey brother Gary.

Hi Richard, I wonder whether you're referring to Exodus 4:10,11. These verses do seem to imply that God specifically creates some (in the womb) to have defective organs or other impediments. He is after all the Creator of all people & things & so has the right to do as He pleases. However, the question: why would God then create a new life with such physical or mental problems? Is it simply sufficient to say that 'He has every right to do so?"

Apart from the above, I see two other aspects to this dilemma: we are all born in corrupt sinful flesh. Even though an embryo cannot be classed as one having committed any sin, its very state, being formed out of the seed of sinful man & woman, already consigns it to an existence (whether in the womb or outside), into a sinful state. And secondly, the Ways & Plans of God are unknown to us. We don't know how God uses such people so afflicted in various ways; whether to glorify Him, to lead them to Himself, or to touch other lives through their infirmity. We usually see the suffering of the one afflicted & ask 'why has God allowed this to happen'?, yet we remain ignorant to the Purposes of God in doing so & for the one afflicted to still return praises to Him in spite of it all.

Here in Exodus chapter 4, we see Moses with a speech impediment; in John 9:1-3 (a man born blind); Mark 7:31-34 (deaf man & with a speech impediment); Acts 3:1-3 (lame man) are a few examples. Then we have babies born with disabilities from no fault of the parents, or maybe because of something ingested by the mother (e.g. Thalidomide when taken during pregnancy for anxiety & morning sickness). All these are the results from what we are as humans or what God has allowed for His Own reasons. What is more important is how we accept our lot in life, how we can be useful to others in some way, & whether through it we are reminded of our own weaknesses & sins & therefore run to the Saviour for spiritual healing & hope, & strength to live through each day.