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  • Val on Mark 9 - 12 years ago
    The fires of hell are future tense... Set after the second coming. Why would God give Hitler a glorified body... Only to BURN it up later??? No one burns eternally... But will burn up... Just as satan will one day! "They shall be ashes under your feet" is prophesied for the Earth made new. Elijah, btw, was translated & went up in a chariot - he never saw death. Moses was resurrected ...& will never see death again! The two witnesses of Revelation are the witnesses of scripture- Old & New Testament ...& looking at the world's condition, they are already starting to be "killed!" Revelation spoke figurative of the witnesses! Justanotherpointofviewtoconsider:-)
  • Jim Kern on Mark 9:44 - 12 years ago
    The fires of hell are real. Hell was prepared by God for Satan and his angels. All those that refuse to accept the atoning blood of Jesus in payment of their sins are also included in the same fate. When Christians die they receive a glorified body. An unsaved person also receives a glorified, eternal body when they die. After the great white throne judgment, at the end of the millennium, the unsaved will be cast into the lake of fire with Satan....forever. I believe each person in hell will be ***igned some kind of worm that also eats the flesh of the glorified body for eternity. Selah... think about that Ask Jesus into Your heart and life. He will come in and do something special with your life.
  • Brad on Mark 9 - 12 years ago
    Who is it that is now preaching the return of Jesus? Christians. The spirit of Elias returned in John the Baptist and he was not recognised. If Moses also returns, it will also be in spirit. Two candlesticks and two olive trees. Two spirits and two church bodies? Yet, the dead will also awake and be seen: some to everlasting life and others to everlasting shame and contempt. The person who said that fasting should not be mentioned in the verse about healing the child treats the bible as something he can bend to his will like the academics do when they deny it's truth. Rather than doubt it, pray to God to understand it.
  • Stefan anderson on Mark 9:23 - 13 years ago
    i believe in jesus and love what he teaches amen
  • Grace okenwa on Acts 4 - 13 years ago
    Prayer is the key to open doors,solution to our problems. when Jesus was on earth he told his diciples that graet mircles can happen through prayer Mark 9:29
  • Les brown on Mark 9:29 - 13 years ago
    I think some translations left the word "fasting"out because it didn't belong in the verse.
    Mathew 17:21 was also left out entirely by some translations or wasn't noted in italicize as being added for the same reason.
    Jesus told the disciples it was because of their little faith that they couldn't cast out the spirit not because they didn't fast.In fact Jesus is not going to scold the disciple for something he didn't require them to do. Mat 9:14 Then come to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
    Mat 9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the sons of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then will they fast.
  • Joan miller on Mark 9:29 - 13 years ago
    i am so sad to see that some versions ommitt the word, *fasting*,....this was extreemly important, along with prayer... or Jesus would not have said it. we are not to take away anything from the Bible.
  • Philip on Mark 9:23 - 13 years ago
    Well I am a believer and believe that my savior JESUS Christ says it will be always true I believe him with all my heart, soul and strength. Hope apostle Mark stays with me tonight in prayer to bless me, my children Jacob and Rachael and also my wife Dasamma. Thank you Philip.
  • George ncube on Mark 9:45 - 13 years ago
    Yes, the fire does not quench but it does not mean sinners will be commented forever.
  • Jay on Mark 9 - 13 years ago
    @Eliyahu,
    Verse 12 can only refer to 2 prophetic prophets:
    1. Reference to John the Baptist who would have been Elijah as one crying in the wilderness preaching of the coming (kingdom) Messiah Jesus Christ to save his people (Jews). John was arrested by Herod, put in prison and beheaded. Jesus did not resurrect John as he will do with Elijah and Moses in Revelation 11:12, who are the two witnesses preaching the coming kingdom as was John. The Jews rejected Jesus in 1st advent ( John 1:11). John was not resurrected because of the Jews rejection of Jesus and so John did not become in typology Elijah of Revelation 11:1-12;
    2. Elijah and Moses will come before Jesus in the 2nd advent ( Matthew 17:1-13) preaching the everlasting kingdom and be killed (beheaded) and be resurrected ( Revelation 11:1-12).
  • Jay on Mark 9 - 13 years ago
    @Nellie,
    On verses 44 and 46, why most other versions (not King James Version 1611) remove these verses. I cannot understand the whole intent of why these verses have been removed. But one can have a good idea when one does a little scripture investigating.
    1. The biblical term worm is in reference to the form (shape) that the unbelievers become in the lake of fire after the white throne judgment ( Revelation 20:11-15);
    2. The fire is a direct reference to the eternal damnation in the lake of fire;
    3. I am sure that this will not be received to better understand that the modern church does not want to upset anyone and that the average modern Christian is wanting to be politically correct and enjoy their watered down versions so they do not come under any convictions about the absolute truth of God's holy word;
    4. Most modern churches will not teach and preach bible truth that make the modern Christians upset about their unsaved friends that they regularly associate with ( 1 Peter 4).
  • Nellie on Mark 9 - 13 years ago
    Why do some versions eliminate versus 44 and 46? Is it a sin to do so?
  • Bane on Mark 9 - 14 years ago
    "Comment on Candice's question"
    Yes, that is a true question. It is easy to be a good believer when life is normal. But what when life occasions or environment lead you to the state when you begin to lose your faith, or the pressure is to hard that you simply forget about everything (Bible, God, Jesus…). There is no a simply answer, but I suggest the Book of Job. He did everything right but terrible things have happened to him. So he asked why is that so (but he never lost his faith in God). The thing is that Gods vision of what is wright and what is wrong and what is blessing and what is punishment is not always the same as our. We ought to keep our faith and be a good Christians no matter what. Of course this is a goal we struggle to reach, and in that struggle sometimes we fail, but we stand up and go on. And this is a whole life struggle.
    Your question is very complex.In Mark 9:23 Jesus said:"...all things are possible to him that believeth." This gives another aspect to your question. You obviously have some kind of problem. I will ask you something and it is not a joke. Do you really believe that Jesus can help you with your problem. I ask you this because people believe in everything, or it is better to say they think they believe. My friend claims that he believes that he can walk on the water. No comment.
    Anyway, I am sorry if I entered your life but be strong and do not lose your faith no matter what. God bless you.
  • Candice on Mark 9 - 14 years ago
    What happens when u do have faith and u do believe and nothing happens. And not just once or twice but many times.
  • MAKINDE JOHNSON OLAPOSI on Mark 9:23 - 14 years ago
    Jesus Christ is talking about the importance of faith for anybody to receive from him.
  • Samuel on Mark 9 - 14 years ago
    Yes, non-believers must believe in order to be healed Math. 9:28; Lk. 8v44 talks of the healing of the woman with the issue of blood. It was belief that that caused her to press thru the crowd; even for a child to be healed, there must be an element of faith speaking for him/her via a second party, maybe the mum, dad, relative etc (Math. 15:28); for the Word of God says 'but without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Now this is the basic requirement for receiving anything from GOD. Belief is the only way. Even those whom Chrit had compassion in healing their children, had to allow Him do it without arguing (this showing belief)for the healing to take effect. Mark 6v5 and 6 shows how Jesus could do no mighty work in His own country bcos of their unbelief, that is God Himself unable to perform bcos of unbelief. Faith is crucial, it is vital. Remain blessed.
  • Eliyahu on Mark 9:12 - 14 years ago
    May already be on this planet preparing the way before Him, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
  • Ben weaver on Mark 9:23 - 15 years ago
    How does one believe to receive from the Lord? Believe can refer to various applications. To believe in Jesus for salvation; means to rely on his promises, as we actively receive them into our lives. In our V.23, Jesus is saying, "All things are possible to him that believes" for them to happen. I have read that Drs. say faith is a contributing factor in healing, possibly any faith. However, a solid basis for faith i.e. the power and promises of Almighty God is more ehhective. I believe that the faith Jesus had and entrusted to us, ( Jude 1:3) should be received and spoken into action in order to be truly effective in any work of God.
  • Ben weaver on Mark 9 - 15 years ago
    V.23. Does one have to believe to be healed? Here are some thoughts from a layman. I think "believe" can refer to various applications. To believe in Jesus for salvation, means to trust / rely on his promises as we personally recieve them / Him into our lives. In our V.23, it seems Jesus is saying, "All things are possible to him that believeth" (trusts/relies on them to happen.) In 1 Cor.14:22, I think "believe" refers to believing in spiritual gifts, in addition to believing in Jesus as Savior. I have read that Doctors say, faith is a contributing factor in healing. Probably any faith. However; active faith in the present unlimited healing power of a caring almighty God is more effective. I believe that the faith of Jesus, entrusted to his own ( Jude 1:3), should be recieved and spoken into action, in order to be truly effective in any work of God.
  • Sheed on Mark 9 - 15 years ago
    Q-- Do non-believers , have to believe to be healed ?


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