Let'a have a look at one of the most famous verses in the Bible.
Matthew 1:22-23, "22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us"
The above verse is taken from Isaiah 7:14, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
In this verse the KJV does not translate accurately the Masoretic text. The Hebrew word for what is translated as virgin is "Haalmah" which means "a young woman". And that is how the Scriptures for Jewish people have written it . But we see that christian Bibles refer to it as "virgin". Why? Why did Matthew refer to it as "virgin" even though in his language it means "young woman"?
Because Matthew quotes it from the Septuagint which has it as "virgin". It seems that the Septuagint translated a text that is sometimes exactly like the Masoretic, but sometimes is less or more or a lot more different from the Masoretic that we have today. Anyway, all Christian Bibles that translate the Masoretic have standardized this verse according to the Septuagint following Matthew's gospel.
The ancient Greeks also used the word virgin to mean an unmarried person. Example. Acts 21:8-9, " 8And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. 9And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy."
What Luke means is that Philip had four young unmarried daughters, girls actually. Young because at that time people married very young compared to today. He says "who did prophesy." Obviously "did prophesy" cannot mean "preached" as some Christians (like the Evangelicals) claim. For how is it possible for a young girl to preach?
Christ is omnipresent and not bound by the limits of time or space. When Jesus promised in Matthew 28:20, "lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world," He declared His constant presence with every believer, no matter where they are. David proclaimed in Psalm 139:7-10, "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." This eternal reality points us to Christ as God in the flesh ( 1 Timothy 3:16), unlimited in His power and presence.
When Jesus walked the earth, His physical body was localized, but after His resurrection and glorification, He transcended all limitations. In John 14:18, He promised, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." This is fulfilled through His Spirit indwelling each believer ( Colossians 1:27, Romans 8:9-10). At the same time, He intercedes at the right hand of God ( Hebrews 7:25), proving He can be present in heaven and in the hearts of His people simultaneously.
Christ Himself said in Matthew 18:20, "where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Paul declared in Galatians 2:20, "Christ liveth in me." Yet John also saw Him walking among the seven churches ( Revelation 1:13). These passages show that Christ is not confined but active everywhere at once.
This truth is a source of comfort: He hears the cry of the saint in a prison cell, strengthens the missionary across the seas, and walks beside you today. Truly, He is Emmanuel, "God with us" ( Matthew 1:23), never distant, never absent, always present to guide, comfort, and uphold His people.
In Matthew 16:16- And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
(the Son of the living God.) This is interpreted Jesus is God. Why this is important? I will come back to that.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.
Jesus is telling Peter "on this basis (Jesus being God) will set the cornerstone for the foundation that the Church will be built on.
Hebrews 9:22-24 reads "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Jesus was the only perfect sacrifice that could present himself as that perfect Lamb from God that could atone for our sins.
Peter says in Acts 4:11-12 "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Jesus wasn't a descendent from Adam where he carried sin in the flesh as all of man kind.
He was brought foward by the Spirit of God. Matthew 1:20-21.
Hebrews 2:14 reads "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Listen to Jesus in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
If your "battle" is with believing that Jesus is God, may I suggest the following scriptures for your consideration:
Genesis 1:1 along with John 1:1-3, Revelation 19:13, Colossians 1:15-17, Matthew 1:23, John 10:30, John 14:9, Mark 2:5-7, John 8:58, John 20:28, Isaiah 9:6, Philippians 2:5-7, Colossians 2:9, 1 Timothy 3:16, Hebrews 1:8, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:8, John 5:18, 1 John 5:20, Luke 24:52, John 9:38, Acts 10:25-26, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:3, Revelation 22:13, Micah 5:2, John 17:5, John 1:14. There are more, but these should suffice.
You mention that "Christians say that there is no separation between Christ and God," and that the bible shows otherwise. Jesus said I and my Father are one, and He also said that if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. This may not mean anything to you, but in the book of Hebrews, Jesus is described as the APOUGASMA (the out beam) of God's glory, God projecting Himself through the time/space factor in the person of Christ. Jesus Christ, being God, was never separated from the source. This is why Jesus can say if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
The best example I can give would be taking a flashlight in a dark room and shining it on a wall. The flashlight is the source, and the light is projected on the wall from the source. There is no separation unless the flashlight is turned off. Now, imagine the flashlight being God, and the light shining on the wall is Jesus, again, no separation. Jesus is said to be the true light which came down from heaven, the APOUGASMA of God.
If you are sincerely struggling with the deity of Jesus Christ (Him being God), I hope these scriptures I've provided might help. Also, if you would like, I can share my personal understanding on Matthew 26:39 and Luke 22:42 and why Christ would ask this.
If I may ask, are you a Christian? If so, who do you say Jesus is?
Is the Holy Spirit God ? ? Was Mother Mary married twice, once from the Holy Ghost and the other from Joseph. The Holy Spirit is a person from Heaven.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of theHolyGhost.
That person that is Righteous living in you is the Holy Ghost, the new creature in Christ. Just think about it, I have Jesus Christ in my heart .
1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of theHolyGhostwhich is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
Now, is the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit God Himself ? ? Because I believe the three in one, yes God is the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by theSpiritofGodcalleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by theHolyGhost.
Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not theholySpiritofGod, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, butGod, who hath also given unto us hisholySpirit.
May we all believe and search the scriptures for Salvation and doctrine for today.
What is the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit ? They are the same in one .
The Holy Spirit talks in the book of Acts, a transitional book of history.
Acts 8:29
Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Acts 10:19
While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
The Holy Spirit is a male person.
Acts 13:2
As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them
The Holy Spirit has a body shape .
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
The Holy Spirit got Mother Mary pregnant.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Spirit is a God.
John 4:24
Godisa Spirit: and they that worship him must worshiphimin spirit and in truth.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 may God bless you with the Holy Spirit .
There are many verses in the Bible that show the human nature of Jesus. But also there are many verses that show the divine nature of Jesus. Some of them are many parts of John's gospel (especially the begining) such as John 1:30, John 2:19, John 3:13, John 8:58-59, John 10:30-33, John 14:9-10, John 14:23, John 20:28, Acts 20:28, Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Hebrews 1:8, Matthew 1:22-23, 1 Cor 10:9, Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, Zechariah 11:12-13, Romans 9:1-5, and many other that I can not recall now. Jesus also accepted people to kneel infront of Him, something that is only permitted for God. Also compare Psalms 102:25-27 where it talks about God to Hebrews 1:10 where it talks about Jesus. Also compare Joel 3:5 to Acts 9:13. Compare Jeremiah 17:9 to Rev 2:23, etc.
So we have two kinds of scripture. One says that Jesus is human, the other says that Jesus is God. So what do we make out of these two? The obvious, that Jesus is the God, one person of the Godhead, who became man.
Lets think it in another way. We know that God loved people so much so that He sacrificed His own son for us. Now lets use another example. Suppose I love my brother and want to help Him. and the only way to help him is to give my own life for him. How does it seem to you that I would sacrifice instead of my own life, my son's life for Him to help Him? Why my son? And not myself? The most sensible thing is that I would sacrifice my own life for him, not somebody's else. That would be very egoistic. Somebody else to suffer for my intention to help somebody that I love? I think you can understand what I trying to say. So what did God do? He sacrificed Himself for us, one person out of the Godhead took on Him our nature, became a man and gave His life for us. So it is God's love that attracts people to Him. It wouldn't be love if He sacrificed somebody else, an innocent person's life, for his intention to save us. I hope I haven't done it so complicated to understand. GBU
We are adopted to the family of God. The minute we get save, we are adopted in the family of God
We do not become Jews, we will have the blood of God through the Spirit.
1. Let's start in Genesis, God said it will start with the seed of the woman.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseedand herseed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of awoman, made under the law,
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of theseedofDavidaccording to the flesh;
2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ of theseedofDavidwas raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2. Jesus Christ's father is God in Heaven. The Father carries the identity of the child. Marry carried the identity of Jesus Christ through the flesh by the seed of Daved in the woman in Genesis.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his motherMarywas espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
3. We get adopted the minute we believe the finished work of the cross that Apostle Paul calls my gospel. We are circumcised in the family of God.
Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye arecircumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto theadoptionof children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit ofadoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:23
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 believe only
Hello Timmywynne. There are many Scriptures that point to the Triune Nature of God, and specifically, that Jesus Christ & the Holy Spirit are revealed to us from the very Being of God the Father. When we think of the Trinity, we know we won't find that word in the Bible, as it is purely a descriptive word of what the Bible declares to be the fullness of God's Being. So to the verses you seek, and you will need to read them fully in your Bible.
Of Jesus Christ: Isaiah 9:6,7 (an Old Testament Prophecy); Micah 5:2 & John 1:1-14 (from everlasting); Matthew 1:22,23; Mark 2:5-7; John 8:56-58; John 16: 27,28; John 17:4,5; John 20:27,28; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; Titus 3:13; Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-10; 1 John 5:7; 1 John 5:20.
Of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31; Luke 1:34,35; Luke 11:13; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-11; Acts 5:3; Acts 8:29; Acts 13:4; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26,27; 1 Corinthians 2:10-14; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 10:29; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:6.
The above are a few Scriptures that point to the deity of Jesus Christ & God's Spirit: all showing that they don't work independently from God, but have been sent out from God, from God's Being, to accomplish His Purposes in the world. And we know that Jesus, as the Word of God clothed with humanity, is the very expression of God to the world ( John 14:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 4:2). Hope these will help you in your study of this very important doctrine. Blessings.
*god's true son's name phropsied in: isaiah 7:14-15 & prophecy fulfilled in matthew 1:22-23, meaning god & christ will be with u.s.= us saved & sanctified & filled with abba's comforter: john 14:13-18 & 14:26*
To the first one: when we speak of Jesus being God, or Almighty God, we know that Jesus is not the Father - He is the Son (of God). But the question: where did Jesus come from that He should be called God, or Divine? Jesus Himself spoke of coming forth from God ( John 16:28, "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father").
The prophet Isaiah in Isaiah 7:14 prophesied about a special Child to be born, which was fulfilled as given in Matthew 1:22,23, "Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".
So just from these few verses we are told that God was going to bring a special Person into the World (and we know that it was for the purpose of Sacrifice & Redemption of sinners); and this Person was not born from the union of two humans, but His beginning was from God Himself. John 1:1-14 tells us that God's Word was made flesh, begotten of the Father - and John was speaking here of Jesus (Jesus' Origin & His Divine Nature).
Why does Jesus then pray to God? Because God brought forth One, a part of Himself, Who is both Divine & Human, & called Him His Son ( Matthew 3:17), for He came forth from within the Person of God. As a Son, Jesus now rightfully speaks (or prays) to His Father & was subservient to Him in every respect fulfilling the Will of the Father to one day make full payment for our sins. This Jesus has done, which God His Father accepted, & raised Jesus to be with Him sharing in His Glory, in Honor & in Power. As the Son of God, Jesus was wholly obedient to His Father's Will; now raised in Glory, the Son receives the praise & worship just as God His Father receives ( Philippians 2:5-11). Onto Page 2.
I don't recall saying that the KJB is the best version among modern versions. I did say that I read and study from the KJB and that it was my bible of choice. I also said that I trust the KJB and that there were a few other "modern" bibles that I trust just the same as I do the KJB. That, I recall saying.
Please allow me to explain my comments on Matthew 1:18. I don't expect you to agree. This comes from my own personal study. In Matthew 1:1, it is the word GENESEOS which refers to lineage. In Matthew 1:18, it is GENESIS, the same as the first book of the bible, meaning origin. Genesis is known as the book of origins because that's what the word Genesis means. It's the same word used in Matthew 1:18. The word GENEA used in Matthew 1:17 means generation or generations.
There are several variations of the Greek word GENESIS which all imply something different. In Matthew 1:18, we see the word birth (GENESIS), but then the exact same word (birth) used in Luke 1:14 where it speaks of the birth of John is not the word GENESIS that's used in Matthew 1:18. The word birth in Luke 1:14 is the word GENNESEI, and it refers to birth as we understand birth being the result of a human mother and father. This cannot apply to Jesus. That's why Matthew was careful not to use the word birth.
Matthew is calling it an origin. If we believe in the eternal deity of Christ, then it makes more sense. Thayer's Greek Lexicon shows the word GENESIS as meaning origin, same word used in Matthew 1:18.
I don't have access to the original Hebrew and Greek either. I have learned to read Greek, and I do realize that not everyone can read Greek. But what I've learned (still learning) is available to anyone who has the desire to learn.
Thank you for reading these studies. I'm assuming that you just begun with Matthew Chapter 1. I hope I'm not going at too fast of a pace. I will begin posting from John's gospel probably tomorrow night, Lord willing.
In Matthew 1:18 -"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Notice it says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, or more literally "in this way," because Matthew is explaining that little presentation in Verse 16 "from whom" or "of whom." The word "birth" in this verse is the Greek word GENESIS which means origin. The origin (not the birth) of Jesus Christ was in this way. Matthew is not calling it a birth. He is calling it an origin."
I looked up the word birth in Strong's Concordance and it says that the definition and usage for the Greek word birth in these verses is
geneses: definition and usage as- birth, lineage, descent. From the same as genea; nativity; figuratively, nature.
The word "origin" is not listed, however in verse one the Greek word generation (ghen'-es-is) has birth, origin: as it's definition; both of them. They mean the same thing. So it seems to me Matthew said birth and meant birth as the Holy Ghost inspired him to write it.
Hi Jesse: In responding to your comment, my Thomas Nelson KJV study bible Is hardcopy bible not a website and both copies of the one I and my son have read in Matthew 1:21 with JESUS all in caps. I also checked 6 online bible apps including this one and they all have JESUS in caps except biblegatway, Jesus' name only had the J in caps.
What do you mean by a modern KJB as opposed to just a KJB as you mentioned in your post to KayDee where you said "Jesus is not all in caps in the 1611, only in modern King James versions is the name JESUS all in caps." God Bless:)
Not that it matters for doctrine but there is a mystery here. I copied the verse from your reply just so we can be sure we are looking at the same verse: " Matthew 1:21 (KJV)." in the KJB 1611 version (not the standard KJB 1611.)
This forum, mine and my son's Thomas Nelson KJB study bibles, another KJB website;" KJV Audio Bible + Gospel Films" all have the name of Jesus in caps.
That is an interesting question, one I'm sure has been overlooked over the years. I probably never would have caught that, or even given it much thought. But that is a good question that you present. I also see in the KJB 1611 that the word name is capitalized to "Name." But what I find more interesting is that Jesus is not in all caps in the 1611, only in modern King James versions is the name JESUS in all caps.
Matthew 1:21 in the 1611 KJB:
"And she shall bring forth a sonne, and thou shalt call his Name Iesus: for hee shall saue his people from their sinnes."
Matthew 1:21 in Modern KJB:
"And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
It is interesting to note that the 1611 capitalizes the word Name, but it is not capitalized in modern KJB's which most KJB readers use today. Also in the 1611, only the first letter in Jesus (Iesus) is capitalized, whereas the modern KJB capitalizes every letter JESUS.
That is a tough question to answer. I tried to do some online research but with no luck. I think brother Ronald has given you some good information. Perhaps the word Name is capitalized to bring emphasis to Jesus, as Ronald has mentioned. And then instead of capitalizing the word name in the newer KJB, they capitalized the entire name JESUS.
*M.E.= My Essence Opens Me: Heart, Mind, Soul & Strength To Do My Best In Everything Me Do & Say To Glorify You; Starting Here & Now With John 8:32: Exodus 3:13-15 & Magnify Your Prophesied Son's Name In Isaiah 7:13-15 & Fulfilled In Matthew 1:22:23; and Even Always Acknowledge Your HOLY-GHOST'S Name IN John 14:26, TOO.!!!&!!!*
I know it have to be frustrating when you clearly stated you were going to share YOUR thoughts on some scripture from a Greek perspective and you wasn't trying to push it on anyone and yet have to be picked apart from all sides.
Don't be discouraged, you shouldn't be surprised.
In researching the scripture as suggested, I found what I thought was interesting and would like to ask you a question.
In Matthew 16:16 you mentioned the word Son used in the Greek is "HUIOS or Uihos" and that is a title of God to the Jews. What Peter was confessing was you are the Messiah and you are God.
That is also the view held by many. Also as you stated TEKNON means a child by birth. A HUIOS is someone who inherits the estate from his father. "A title of God to the Jews."
Using the word HUIOS instead of TEKNON would cause a that!
"The Huios of God" ties you to the ever lasting essence of God!
This reminds me of Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.
MY QUESTION.
When speaking of Judas in John 17:12 isn't the word Son/Huios used in the same way, as a title instead of by birth?
John 17:12 "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the SON OF PERDITION; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
The word perdition means "destruction, ruin, waste." Judas was not the literal son of "ruin, destruction, and waste," but those things were the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition, just as Jesus was the manifestation of God.
MayI add my understanding of the word? The word Genesis given to the first book is given as 'in the beginning' with reference to the books of Moses collectively called the Pentateuch, a word of Greek origin meaning "the five-fold book. It refers to the everlasting covenant with everlasting life for the blessed and for those who rejected, everlasting punishment, The seven days are articles with regards to the day decreed for the Son.(Ps.2:7). Matthew 1:1 clearly states that the gospel is "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." This generation of Jesus covers the entire day decreed for him according to the covenant. So generations of Adam, Noah are all generations in context of Jesus Christ the same He.13:8 also Alpha Omega, the beginning and the ending.
It fits with the Pauline dictum. "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."( Col.1:17)
In Matthew 1:1 the scripture writes GENESEOS which means OF GENESIS. But in Matthew 1:18 it writes GENNESIS, with double "n", also the second "e" is written in grk with "eta", not "epsilon" as in GENESIS. It is not the same word. GENNESIS means birth . Also genesis which means origin or from the begining or creation from the beginning is often associated to birth. Those two different words which look almost the same confuse even grk people, many don't know the difference in meaning. GBU
Thanks for your input, as I do value your knowledge of the Greek language. I do see in Matthew 1:1 the word GENESEOS, and then in Verse 18 is the word GENESIS. My understanding is that although they are not the exact same word in spelling, these two words are associated with each other, GENESEOS being the lexical form of the word GENESIS.
The point I was trying to emphasize was that Matthew was calling it an origin, not a birth, because Jesus was not born but became flesh. He has always been in existence.
I am not going to interfere in your posts about the grk text, but taking a chance from Chris' post, just to point to you that the word Genesis in Matthew 1:1 is not the same as in Matthew 1:18. Just check it.
Hello Brother Jesse. I've just gone through your four parts (thus far), & can see that your contribution will be a very useful, informative learning experience for us. I shall be noting in my Bible accordingly, if I can find space in the margins. Thank you for bringing this to us.
Just on your Matthew 1:18 reference: almost every Bible version that I could find, uses the 'birth' of Jesus in their translation. The exception being Douay Rheims, which reads, "the generation of Christ was on this wise". Even Young's Literal Translation (which can be included in the group of better translations), refers to the Birth of Christ. I find it interesting, if not worrying, why translators found it more expedient to opt for 'birth'. In attempting high accuracy in their work, I would have thought that this deviation from the Greek would raise red flags for them. GBU.
What Matthew is presenting fits perfectly to what John said in John 1:14 that "The word became flesh and dwelt among us." You see, Jesus was not born. He became flesh. He has always been in existence. This is why Matthew avoids using the word for birth. He's presenting to us the origin of the Christ.
It also says that "before they came together," which is a Greek word that means before their marriage was consummated.
Matthew 1:20 - But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Verse 20, from a literal Greek translation says, "After thinking on these things." And the English text is really pretty sad here because most English translations say, "While he was thinking on these things." But it's not that way in the original Greek text. It is an Aorist Participle, which tells us that this was after he thought on these things, after he made the decision about what he was going to do.
Matthew 2:1 - Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, During the days of Herod's reign,
It says "Behold wise men from the east came to Jerusalem. Our English text says, "wise men," but the literal Greek word is the word MAGOI for wise men. It's where we get our English word magic and magician from. They were sorcerers. This could have been translated as "there came magicians (or sorcerers) from the east to Jerusalem." In the English, the words "wise men" sounds like these were just some smart dudes! We think of wise men, and we might think of the three men in our manger scenes, even though that's not even accurate. There were many more than three because they always travelled in large groups.
Hello Momsage, and all else who might read these things I am sharing,
Beginning with Matthew, I am sharing some comparisons between what the Greek text says and what we read in our English translations, things that either enhance the meaning of what our English text is saying or changes the meaning all together. Other things I'll share may be things you already know, things that are not necessarily Greek to English comparisons, but just general information on things I find interesting.
Again, this is something I agreed to share with Momsage, but I am sharing with in the hope that others might find some of this helpful in your own studies. Please know that this is from my own personal studies with no intent to sway anyone from their own understanding of whatever English translation you may be studying from. As I move forward with this, all future posts will not be addressed to any specific person. I will simply title these posts "Biblical Greek Perspectives."
So, to begin with Matthew, (Part 1):
Matthew 1:18 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Notice it says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, or more literally "in this way," because Matthew is explaining that little presentation in Verse 16 "from whom" or "of whom." The word "birth" in this verse is the Greek word GENESIS which means origin. The origin (not the birth) of Jesus Christ was in this way. Matthew is not calling it a birth. He is calling it an origin.
The word "generation" in Verse 1 is also the same Greek word GENESIS. It is not the word for birth. Matthew is purposely avoiding the word for birth. What Matthew is saying here is that this is the scroll of the origin of the Christ.
I will share why this is important in the next part.
Thanks you for explaining the difference and use of the name and by whom, Now I know the difference. I don't think Bible hub will burn as I was only translating Old Testament, and the Old Testament was given in Hebrew and was given to them as there laws in Hebrew.
In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel
KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus
KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority
I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.
Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost, Matthew 1:20 of the seed of a woman/Mary, Genesis 3:15, and born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, John 1:13. Jesus grew up the same way that we do, Luke 2:40.
He was subject to the pulls of the flesh. He was tempted and influenced by Satan, Luke 4:1-2. He had a will and human desires, Luke 22:41-42. Although Jesus was filled without measure with the power of the Holy Ghost, and gave all things into his hand, John 3:34-35 Jesus humbled Himself and was obedient unto death, Philippians 2:5-11.
To be the payment for sins of man and to be the Savior of mankind and destroy the works of the devil, Jesus had to be a human, Hebrews 2:14-18, the promise God made was to Abraham and his seed, that was Jesus the Messiah/Christ, Galatians 3:16.
Jesus the last Adam came into this world sinless as the first Adam and had to be laden with what we are as humans. The man Jesus, Romans 5:15, had to endure and overcome sin and rise above the influences of Satan to become the payment for the sins and this atonement made way for our deliverance from Satan's bondage, Romans 3:21-26.
He also was prepared to be a merciful and faithful High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. God sent His own Son to condemn sin in the flesh that the law could not do that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled, Romans 8:3-4.
Jesus the Son of God a human being had to deal with life as we do. He lived in the same time, space, and constraints as we do. He was born under the law, He became tired, He became hungry, He was subject to persecution, subject to pain, subject to the Roman rulers, He had to deal with all the things the same way we do, and all was the for the will of the Father, not His, Matthew 26:42.
Only in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth do we have hope, and are saved, Acts 4:12.
Daniel 9:24-27, in this prophecy, there are seventy weeks or 490 years determined unto Daniel's people and the holy city to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Have these 6 things been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah, and the judgment of it carried out in 70 AD? If so, all of this prophecy has been fulfilled in the past.
1 To finish the transgression. To break or violate, as a law, civil or moral; the act of transgressing. Psalms 32:1Isaiah 53:5-11Romans 4:14-15Galatians 3:18-19Hebrews 9:14-15.
2 To make an end to sins. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Matthew 1:21Hebrews 10:8-11John 1:291 Corinthians 15:31 John 3:5Psalm 32:1Romans 3:21-26Romans 8:3.
3 To make reconciliation for iniquity. Reconciliation is an element of salvation that refers to the results of the atonement. Colossians 1:20-22Isaiah 53:6Isaiah 53:11Romans 5:11Ephesians 2:16Titus 2:142 Corinthians 5:18-19.
4 To bring in everlasting righteousness. In conformity to the demands of the covenant and according to God's will. Isaiah 61:10-11Romans 3:21-26Romans 5:17-212 Corinthians 5:211 Peter 2:24.
5 To seal up the vision and prophecy. The greatest prediction, which runs like a golden thread through the whole contents of the Old Testament, is that regarding the coming and work of the Messiah, Jesus. Daniel 9:23Matthew 11:11-15Mark 1:14-15John 5:36-40John 6:27Acts 3:18.
6 To anoint the most holy. The high priest went into the holy of holies once a year with the blood of a sacrificed bull. Jesus our high priest with His own blood anointed the most holy not made with hands once and for all, forever. Hebrews 9:6-14.
Let'a have a look at one of the most famous verses in the Bible.
Matthew 1:22-23, "22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us"
The above verse is taken from Isaiah 7:14, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
In this verse the KJV does not translate accurately the Masoretic text. The Hebrew word for what is translated as virgin is "Haalmah" which means "a young woman". And that is how the Scriptures for Jewish people have written it . But we see that christian Bibles refer to it as "virgin". Why? Why did Matthew refer to it as "virgin" even though in his language it means "young woman"?
Because Matthew quotes it from the Septuagint which has it as "virgin". It seems that the Septuagint translated a text that is sometimes exactly like the Masoretic, but sometimes is less or more or a lot more different from the Masoretic that we have today. Anyway, all Christian Bibles that translate the Masoretic have standardized this verse according to the Septuagint following Matthew's gospel.
The ancient Greeks also used the word virgin to mean an unmarried person. Example. Acts 21:8-9, " 8And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. 9And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy."
What Luke means is that Philip had four young unmarried daughters, girls actually. Young because at that time people married very young compared to today. He says "who did prophesy." Obviously "did prophesy" cannot mean "preached" as some Christians (like the Evangelicals) claim. For how is it possible for a young girl to preach?
GBU
Christ is omnipresent and not bound by the limits of time or space. When Jesus promised in Matthew 28:20, "lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world," He declared His constant presence with every believer, no matter where they are. David proclaimed in Psalm 139:7-10, "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." This eternal reality points us to Christ as God in the flesh ( 1 Timothy 3:16), unlimited in His power and presence.
When Jesus walked the earth, His physical body was localized, but after His resurrection and glorification, He transcended all limitations. In John 14:18, He promised, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." This is fulfilled through His Spirit indwelling each believer ( Colossians 1:27, Romans 8:9-10). At the same time, He intercedes at the right hand of God ( Hebrews 7:25), proving He can be present in heaven and in the hearts of His people simultaneously.
Christ Himself said in Matthew 18:20, "where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Paul declared in Galatians 2:20, "Christ liveth in me." Yet John also saw Him walking among the seven churches ( Revelation 1:13). These passages show that Christ is not confined but active everywhere at once.
This truth is a source of comfort: He hears the cry of the saint in a prison cell, strengthens the missionary across the seas, and walks beside you today. Truly, He is Emmanuel, "God with us" ( Matthew 1:23), never distant, never absent, always present to guide, comfort, and uphold His people.
G&P
In Matthew 16:16- And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
(the Son of the living God.) This is interpreted Jesus is God. Why this is important? I will come back to that.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.
Jesus is telling Peter "on this basis (Jesus being God) will set the cornerstone for the foundation that the Church will be built on.
Hebrews 9:22-24 reads "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Jesus was the only perfect sacrifice that could present himself as that perfect Lamb from God that could atone for our sins.
Peter says in Acts 4:11-12 "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Jesus wasn't a descendent from Adam where he carried sin in the flesh as all of man kind.
He was brought foward by the Spirit of God. Matthew 1:20-21.
Hebrews 2:14 reads "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Listen to Jesus in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I hope this helps
a very clear picture can be drawn out of those scriptures!
God said he will not give his glory to another here in Isaiah 42:8
"I am the lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
However Immanuel! came out of the bosom of the Father and was manifested in the flesh!!
Matthew 1:23.
John 1:18.
1 Timothy 3:16.
He shared that Glory!
John 17:5 "and now, o father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Undeniably God!!
Blessings!
If your "battle" is with believing that Jesus is God, may I suggest the following scriptures for your consideration:
Genesis 1:1 along with John 1:1-3, Revelation 19:13, Colossians 1:15-17, Matthew 1:23, John 10:30, John 14:9, Mark 2:5-7, John 8:58, John 20:28, Isaiah 9:6, Philippians 2:5-7, Colossians 2:9, 1 Timothy 3:16, Hebrews 1:8, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:8, John 5:18, 1 John 5:20, Luke 24:52, John 9:38, Acts 10:25-26, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:3, Revelation 22:13, Micah 5:2, John 17:5, John 1:14. There are more, but these should suffice.
You mention that "Christians say that there is no separation between Christ and God," and that the bible shows otherwise. Jesus said I and my Father are one, and He also said that if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. This may not mean anything to you, but in the book of Hebrews, Jesus is described as the APOUGASMA (the out beam) of God's glory, God projecting Himself through the time/space factor in the person of Christ. Jesus Christ, being God, was never separated from the source. This is why Jesus can say if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
The best example I can give would be taking a flashlight in a dark room and shining it on a wall. The flashlight is the source, and the light is projected on the wall from the source. There is no separation unless the flashlight is turned off. Now, imagine the flashlight being God, and the light shining on the wall is Jesus, again, no separation. Jesus is said to be the true light which came down from heaven, the APOUGASMA of God.
If you are sincerely struggling with the deity of Jesus Christ (Him being God), I hope these scriptures I've provided might help. Also, if you would like, I can share my personal understanding on Matthew 26:39 and Luke 22:42 and why Christ would ask this.
If I may ask, are you a Christian? If so, who do you say Jesus is?
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of theHolyGhost.
That person that is Righteous living in you is the Holy Ghost, the new creature in Christ. Just think about it, I have Jesus Christ in my heart .
1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of theHolyGhostwhich is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
Now, is the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit God Himself ? ? Because I believe the three in one, yes God is the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by theSpiritofGodcalleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by theHolyGhost.
Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not theholySpiritofGod, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, butGod, who hath also given unto us hisholySpirit.
May we all believe and search the scriptures for Salvation and doctrine for today.
Ray , in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
What is the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit ? They are the same in one .
The Holy Spirit talks in the book of Acts, a transitional book of history.
Acts 8:29
Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Acts 10:19
While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
The Holy Spirit is a male person.
Acts 13:2
As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them
The Holy Spirit has a body shape .
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
The Holy Spirit got Mother Mary pregnant.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Spirit is a God.
John 4:24
Godisa Spirit: and they that worship him must worshiphimin spirit and in truth.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 may God bless you with the Holy Spirit .
There are many verses in the Bible that show the human nature of Jesus. But also there are many verses that show the divine nature of Jesus. Some of them are many parts of John's gospel (especially the begining) such as John 1:30, John 2:19, John 3:13, John 8:58-59, John 10:30-33, John 14:9-10, John 14:23, John 20:28, Acts 20:28, Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Hebrews 1:8, Matthew 1:22-23, 1 Cor 10:9, Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, Zechariah 11:12-13, Romans 9:1-5, and many other that I can not recall now. Jesus also accepted people to kneel infront of Him, something that is only permitted for God. Also compare Psalms 102:25-27 where it talks about God to Hebrews 1:10 where it talks about Jesus. Also compare Joel 3:5 to Acts 9:13. Compare Jeremiah 17:9 to Rev 2:23, etc.
So we have two kinds of scripture. One says that Jesus is human, the other says that Jesus is God. So what do we make out of these two? The obvious, that Jesus is the God, one person of the Godhead, who became man.
Lets think it in another way. We know that God loved people so much so that He sacrificed His own son for us. Now lets use another example. Suppose I love my brother and want to help Him. and the only way to help him is to give my own life for him. How does it seem to you that I would sacrifice instead of my own life, my son's life for Him to help Him? Why my son? And not myself? The most sensible thing is that I would sacrifice my own life for him, not somebody's else. That would be very egoistic. Somebody else to suffer for my intention to help somebody that I love? I think you can understand what I trying to say. So what did God do? He sacrificed Himself for us, one person out of the Godhead took on Him our nature, became a man and gave His life for us. So it is God's love that attracts people to Him. It wouldn't be love if He sacrificed somebody else, an innocent person's life, for his intention to save us. I hope I haven't done it so complicated to understand. GBU
We do not become Jews, we will have the blood of God through the Spirit.
1. Let's start in Genesis, God said it will start with the seed of the woman.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseedand herseed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of awoman, made under the law,
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of theseedofDavidaccording to the flesh;
2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ of theseedofDavidwas raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2. Jesus Christ's father is God in Heaven. The Father carries the identity of the child. Marry carried the identity of Jesus Christ through the flesh by the seed of Daved in the woman in Genesis.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his motherMarywas espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
3. We get adopted the minute we believe the finished work of the cross that Apostle Paul calls my gospel. We are circumcised in the family of God.
Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye arecircumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto theadoptionof children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit ofadoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:23
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 believe only
Of Jesus Christ: Isaiah 9:6,7 (an Old Testament Prophecy); Micah 5:2 & John 1:1-14 (from everlasting); Matthew 1:22,23; Mark 2:5-7; John 8:56-58; John 16: 27,28; John 17:4,5; John 20:27,28; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; Titus 3:13; Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-10; 1 John 5:7; 1 John 5:20.
Of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31; Luke 1:34,35; Luke 11:13; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-11; Acts 5:3; Acts 8:29; Acts 13:4; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26,27; 1 Corinthians 2:10-14; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 10:29; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:6.
The above are a few Scriptures that point to the deity of Jesus Christ & God's Spirit: all showing that they don't work independently from God, but have been sent out from God, from God's Being, to accomplish His Purposes in the world. And we know that Jesus, as the Word of God clothed with humanity, is the very expression of God to the world ( John 14:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 4:2). Hope these will help you in your study of this very important doctrine. Blessings.
Hello Lovealot19. Thanks for your questions.
To the first one: when we speak of Jesus being God, or Almighty God, we know that Jesus is not the Father - He is the Son (of God). But the question: where did Jesus come from that He should be called God, or Divine? Jesus Himself spoke of coming forth from God ( John 16:28, "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father").
The prophet Isaiah in Isaiah 7:14 prophesied about a special Child to be born, which was fulfilled as given in Matthew 1:22,23, "Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".
So just from these few verses we are told that God was going to bring a special Person into the World (and we know that it was for the purpose of Sacrifice & Redemption of sinners); and this Person was not born from the union of two humans, but His beginning was from God Himself. John 1:1-14 tells us that God's Word was made flesh, begotten of the Father - and John was speaking here of Jesus (Jesus' Origin & His Divine Nature).
Why does Jesus then pray to God? Because God brought forth One, a part of Himself, Who is both Divine & Human, & called Him His Son ( Matthew 3:17), for He came forth from within the Person of God. As a Son, Jesus now rightfully speaks (or prays) to His Father & was subservient to Him in every respect fulfilling the Will of the Father to one day make full payment for our sins. This Jesus has done, which God His Father accepted, & raised Jesus to be with Him sharing in His Glory, in Honor & in Power. As the Son of God, Jesus was wholly obedient to His Father's Will; now raised in Glory, the Son receives the praise & worship just as God His Father receives ( Philippians 2:5-11). Onto Page 2.
I don't recall saying that the KJB is the best version among modern versions. I did say that I read and study from the KJB and that it was my bible of choice. I also said that I trust the KJB and that there were a few other "modern" bibles that I trust just the same as I do the KJB. That, I recall saying.
Please allow me to explain my comments on Matthew 1:18. I don't expect you to agree. This comes from my own personal study. In Matthew 1:1, it is the word GENESEOS which refers to lineage. In Matthew 1:18, it is GENESIS, the same as the first book of the bible, meaning origin. Genesis is known as the book of origins because that's what the word Genesis means. It's the same word used in Matthew 1:18. The word GENEA used in Matthew 1:17 means generation or generations.
There are several variations of the Greek word GENESIS which all imply something different. In Matthew 1:18, we see the word birth (GENESIS), but then the exact same word (birth) used in Luke 1:14 where it speaks of the birth of John is not the word GENESIS that's used in Matthew 1:18. The word birth in Luke 1:14 is the word GENNESEI, and it refers to birth as we understand birth being the result of a human mother and father. This cannot apply to Jesus. That's why Matthew was careful not to use the word birth.
Matthew is calling it an origin. If we believe in the eternal deity of Christ, then it makes more sense. Thayer's Greek Lexicon shows the word GENESIS as meaning origin, same word used in Matthew 1:18.
I don't have access to the original Hebrew and Greek either. I have learned to read Greek, and I do realize that not everyone can read Greek. But what I've learned (still learning) is available to anyone who has the desire to learn.
Thank you for reading these studies. I'm assuming that you just begun with Matthew Chapter 1. I hope I'm not going at too fast of a pace. I will begin posting from John's gospel probably tomorrow night, Lord willing.
Blessings to you also!
In Matthew 1:18 -"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Notice it says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, or more literally "in this way," because Matthew is explaining that little presentation in Verse 16 "from whom" or "of whom." The word "birth" in this verse is the Greek word GENESIS which means origin. The origin (not the birth) of Jesus Christ was in this way. Matthew is not calling it a birth. He is calling it an origin."
I looked up the word birth in Strong's Concordance and it says that the definition and usage for the Greek word birth in these verses is
geneses: definition and usage as- birth, lineage, descent. From the same as genea; nativity; figuratively, nature.
The word "origin" is not listed, however in verse one the Greek word generation (ghen'-es-is) has birth, origin: as it's definition; both of them. They mean the same thing. So it seems to me Matthew said birth and meant birth as the Holy Ghost inspired him to write it.
What do you mean by a modern KJB as opposed to just a KJB as you mentioned in your post to KayDee where you said "Jesus is not all in caps in the 1611, only in modern King James versions is the name JESUS all in caps." God Bless:)
Not that it matters for doctrine but there is a mystery here. I copied the verse from your reply just so we can be sure we are looking at the same verse: " Matthew 1:21 (KJV)." in the KJB 1611 version (not the standard KJB 1611.)
This forum, mine and my son's Thomas Nelson KJB study bibles, another KJB website;" KJV Audio Bible + Gospel Films" all have the name of Jesus in caps.
Like I said, a mystery. God Bless :)
That is an interesting question, one I'm sure has been overlooked over the years. I probably never would have caught that, or even given it much thought. But that is a good question that you present. I also see in the KJB 1611 that the word name is capitalized to "Name." But what I find more interesting is that Jesus is not in all caps in the 1611, only in modern King James versions is the name JESUS in all caps.
Matthew 1:21 in the 1611 KJB:
"And she shall bring forth a sonne, and thou shalt call his Name Iesus: for hee shall saue his people from their sinnes."
Matthew 1:21 in Modern KJB:
"And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
It is interesting to note that the 1611 capitalizes the word Name, but it is not capitalized in modern KJB's which most KJB readers use today. Also in the 1611, only the first letter in Jesus (Iesus) is capitalized, whereas the modern KJB capitalizes every letter JESUS.
That is a tough question to answer. I tried to do some online research but with no luck. I think brother Ronald has given you some good information. Perhaps the word Name is capitalized to bring emphasis to Jesus, as Ronald has mentioned. And then instead of capitalizing the word name in the newer KJB, they capitalized the entire name JESUS.
Blessings!
Matthew 1:21.
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
God Bless :)
I know it have to be frustrating when you clearly stated you were going to share YOUR thoughts on some scripture from a Greek perspective and you wasn't trying to push it on anyone and yet have to be picked apart from all sides.
Don't be discouraged, you shouldn't be surprised.
In researching the scripture as suggested, I found what I thought was interesting and would like to ask you a question.
In Matthew 16:16 you mentioned the word Son used in the Greek is "HUIOS or Uihos" and that is a title of God to the Jews. What Peter was confessing was you are the Messiah and you are God.
That is also the view held by many. Also as you stated TEKNON means a child by birth. A HUIOS is someone who inherits the estate from his father. "A title of God to the Jews."
Using the word HUIOS instead of TEKNON would cause a that!
"The Huios of God" ties you to the ever lasting essence of God!
This reminds me of Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.
MY QUESTION.
When speaking of Judas in John 17:12 isn't the word Son/Huios used in the same way, as a title instead of by birth?
John 17:12 "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the SON OF PERDITION; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
The word perdition means "destruction, ruin, waste." Judas was not the literal son of "ruin, destruction, and waste," but those things were the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition, just as Jesus was the manifestation of God.
Thanks and God bless.
MayI add my understanding of the word? The word Genesis given to the first book is given as 'in the beginning' with reference to the books of Moses collectively called the Pentateuch, a word of Greek origin meaning "the five-fold book. It refers to the everlasting covenant with everlasting life for the blessed and for those who rejected, everlasting punishment, The seven days are articles with regards to the day decreed for the Son.(Ps.2:7). Matthew 1:1 clearly states that the gospel is "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." This generation of Jesus covers the entire day decreed for him according to the covenant. So generations of Adam, Noah are all generations in context of Jesus Christ the same He.13:8 also Alpha Omega, the beginning and the ending.
It fits with the Pauline dictum. "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."( Col.1:17)
In Matthew 1:1 the scripture writes GENESEOS which means OF GENESIS. But in Matthew 1:18 it writes GENNESIS, with double "n", also the second "e" is written in grk with "eta", not "epsilon" as in GENESIS. It is not the same word. GENNESIS means birth . Also genesis which means origin or from the begining or creation from the beginning is often associated to birth. Those two different words which look almost the same confuse even grk people, many don't know the difference in meaning. GBU
Thanks for your input, as I do value your knowledge of the Greek language. I do see in Matthew 1:1 the word GENESEOS, and then in Verse 18 is the word GENESIS. My understanding is that although they are not the exact same word in spelling, these two words are associated with each other, GENESEOS being the lexical form of the word GENESIS.
The point I was trying to emphasize was that Matthew was calling it an origin, not a birth, because Jesus was not born but became flesh. He has always been in existence.
Thanks again, brother.
God Bless!!!
I am not going to interfere in your posts about the grk text, but taking a chance from Chris' post, just to point to you that the word Genesis in Matthew 1:1 is not the same as in Matthew 1:18. Just check it.
Just on your Matthew 1:18 reference: almost every Bible version that I could find, uses the 'birth' of Jesus in their translation. The exception being Douay Rheims, which reads, "the generation of Christ was on this wise". Even Young's Literal Translation (which can be included in the group of better translations), refers to the Birth of Christ. I find it interesting, if not worrying, why translators found it more expedient to opt for 'birth'. In attempting high accuracy in their work, I would have thought that this deviation from the Greek would raise red flags for them. GBU.
What Matthew is presenting fits perfectly to what John said in John 1:14 that "The word became flesh and dwelt among us." You see, Jesus was not born. He became flesh. He has always been in existence. This is why Matthew avoids using the word for birth. He's presenting to us the origin of the Christ.
It also says that "before they came together," which is a Greek word that means before their marriage was consummated.
Matthew 1:20 - But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Verse 20, from a literal Greek translation says, "After thinking on these things." And the English text is really pretty sad here because most English translations say, "While he was thinking on these things." But it's not that way in the original Greek text. It is an Aorist Participle, which tells us that this was after he thought on these things, after he made the decision about what he was going to do.
Matthew 2:1 - Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, During the days of Herod's reign,
It says "Behold wise men from the east came to Jerusalem. Our English text says, "wise men," but the literal Greek word is the word MAGOI for wise men. It's where we get our English word magic and magician from. They were sorcerers. This could have been translated as "there came magicians (or sorcerers) from the east to Jerusalem." In the English, the words "wise men" sounds like these were just some smart dudes! We think of wise men, and we might think of the three men in our manger scenes, even though that's not even accurate. There were many more than three because they always travelled in large groups.
Beginning with Matthew, I am sharing some comparisons between what the Greek text says and what we read in our English translations, things that either enhance the meaning of what our English text is saying or changes the meaning all together. Other things I'll share may be things you already know, things that are not necessarily Greek to English comparisons, but just general information on things I find interesting.
Again, this is something I agreed to share with Momsage, but I am sharing with in the hope that others might find some of this helpful in your own studies. Please know that this is from my own personal studies with no intent to sway anyone from their own understanding of whatever English translation you may be studying from. As I move forward with this, all future posts will not be addressed to any specific person. I will simply title these posts "Biblical Greek Perspectives."
So, to begin with Matthew, (Part 1):
Matthew 1:18 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Notice it says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, or more literally "in this way," because Matthew is explaining that little presentation in Verse 16 "from whom" or "of whom." The word "birth" in this verse is the Greek word GENESIS which means origin. The origin (not the birth) of Jesus Christ was in this way. Matthew is not calling it a birth. He is calling it an origin.
The word "generation" in Verse 1 is also the same Greek word GENESIS. It is not the word for birth. Matthew is purposely avoiding the word for birth. What Matthew is saying here is that this is the scroll of the origin of the Christ.
I will share why this is important in the next part.
In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel
KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus
KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority
I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.
Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost, Matthew 1:20 of the seed of a woman/Mary, Genesis 3:15, and born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, John 1:13. Jesus grew up the same way that we do, Luke 2:40.
He was subject to the pulls of the flesh. He was tempted and influenced by Satan, Luke 4:1-2. He had a will and human desires, Luke 22:41-42. Although Jesus was filled without measure with the power of the Holy Ghost, and gave all things into his hand, John 3:34-35 Jesus humbled Himself and was obedient unto death, Philippians 2:5-11.
To be the payment for sins of man and to be the Savior of mankind and destroy the works of the devil, Jesus had to be a human, Hebrews 2:14-18, the promise God made was to Abraham and his seed, that was Jesus the Messiah/Christ, Galatians 3:16.
Jesus the last Adam came into this world sinless as the first Adam and had to be laden with what we are as humans. The man Jesus, Romans 5:15, had to endure and overcome sin and rise above the influences of Satan to become the payment for the sins and this atonement made way for our deliverance from Satan's bondage, Romans 3:21-26.
He also was prepared to be a merciful and faithful High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. God sent His own Son to condemn sin in the flesh that the law could not do that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled, Romans 8:3-4.
Jesus the Son of God a human being had to deal with life as we do. He lived in the same time, space, and constraints as we do. He was born under the law, He became tired, He became hungry, He was subject to persecution, subject to pain, subject to the Roman rulers, He had to deal with all the things the same way we do, and all was the for the will of the Father, not His, Matthew 26:42.
Only in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth do we have hope, and are saved, Acts 4:12.
We are to hold fast in our faith to the end.
God bless,
RLW
Hey brother just one last thing to consider.
Daniel 9:24-27, in this prophecy, there are seventy weeks or 490 years determined unto Daniel's people and the holy city to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Have these 6 things been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah, and the judgment of it carried out in 70 AD? If so, all of this prophecy has been fulfilled in the past.
1 To finish the transgression. To break or violate, as a law, civil or moral; the act of transgressing. Psalms 32:1 Isaiah 53:5-11 Romans 4:14-15 Galatians 3:18-19 Hebrews 9:14-15.
2 To make an end to sins. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3 1 John 3:5 Psalm 32:1 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 8:3.
3 To make reconciliation for iniquity. Reconciliation is an element of salvation that refers to the results of the atonement. Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Romans 5:11 Ephesians 2:16 Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.
4 To bring in everlasting righteousness. In conformity to the demands of the covenant and according to God's will. Isaiah 61:10-11 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 5:17-21 2 Corinthians 5:21 1 Peter 2:24.
5 To seal up the vision and prophecy. The greatest prediction, which runs like a golden thread through the whole contents of the Old Testament, is that regarding the coming and work of the Messiah, Jesus. Daniel 9:23 Matthew 11:11-15 Mark 1:14-15 John 5:36-40 John 6:27 Acts 3:18.
6 To anoint the most holy. The high priest went into the holy of holies once a year with the blood of a sacrificed bull. Jesus our high priest with His own blood anointed the most holy not made with hands once and for all, forever. Hebrews 9:6-14.
Jesus said it in John 19:28-30.
God bless,
RLW