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Matthew 25:31-46, John 3:15,16,17,18,36, John 6:40,47, Romans 6:22, 2Thessalonians 1, Jude 1, Revelation 20:15, Mark 9:42-48, 2Peter 3, Revelation 14:9-19, Revelation 15:1-4, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10-15, Revelation 21,

Hi earl.

here in revelation 22:11 it says let him holy or unjust ect...still!

earl this suggests after this lifetime and after judgment.

( he that is unjust, let him be unjust "still:" and he which is filthy, let him be filthy... "still:"... and he that is righteous, let him be righteous... "still":... and he that is holy, let him be holy "...still".)

revelation 22:14-15 verifies that!

" blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,...and may enter in through the gates into the city.....

"for without" are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

"after" this life some will remain righteousness that will enter in through the gates into the city.

and there are some who will remain unjust " the dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." who will be without the city.

and revelation 21:8 tells us where they're going!

"but the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

also: revelation 20:13-15 states "and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." this suggests after this life!!

daniel spoke of this in daniel 12:2 "and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

this also suggests 2 groups after this life in an everlasting condition! ( unjust still and righteous still.)

jesus makes reference to 2 groups, 2 destinations after this life in

matthew 25:41-46.

and it's everlasting not a refining fire!!

come on earl let's humble ourselves and not get in the way of this great truth.

Thanks Earl but again we disagree on all those scriptures you presented.

You asked "What does the overcomer, overcome" as if all overcome. Nowhere in scripture presents this.

We would be revisiting a pass discussion where this was put to rest using these scriptures: Revelation 20:1-15. and Revelation 22:10-11.

( The so-called refining fire you're presenting has already past back in Revelation 20:1-15. )

By the time we get to these verses we have the outcome of two groups with separate destinations.

Revelation 22:10-11

And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.

(Yet there still remains the unjust AFTER JUDGMENT. )

HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: AND HE WHICH IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL:................AND HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS, LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: AND HE THAT IS HOLY, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.

Revelation 22:14-15

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city............

FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, AND WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.

Again everyone doesn't overcome. Revelation 21:7 is one group. Revelation 21:8 is another.

Giannis:

It takes all the books of the PROPHETS to understand the PARABLE ( Matthew 13:34) of the rich man and Lazarus.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will DO NOTHING, but he REVEALETH his secret unto his servants the PROPHETS.

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, if they HEAR NOT Mosses and the PROPHETS, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

No where in Moses and the prophets does it prophesy that anyone goes to heaven or hell. It prophesies that there will be a Kingdom of God.

The books of the prophets, prophesies, that the elect will BE BROUGHT through the fire; not avoid it.

It prophesies that only a third will be brought through the fire in this age; the others will go to the grave and wait for the resurrection to the next age.

Revelation is a second witness to the prophecies.

Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two thirds shall be cut off and die, and a THIRD shall be left therein ( Luke 17:34-35).

Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the THIRD PART through the FIRE ..

Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall burn with fire a THIRD part ..

Ezekiel 5:3 ..take THEREOF a few in number ..

Ezekiel 5:4 ...take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire, for THEREOF shall a fire COME FORTH into all the house of Israel.

Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a FLAME ....

Luke 16:24 ....for I am tormented in this FLAME.

Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written, this HONOUR hath all his Saints.

Obadiah 1:21 And Saviours (those that have obtained the next age, the IMAGE OF CHRIST) shall come on mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau, and the Kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

Zechariah 12:8 And in that day ( Revelation 20:9) shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David, and the house of David shall be as (the image of) GOD, and the angel of the LORD before them.

Sister Barbara:

Is she mixed up:

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ..... CHRIST IN YOU ....

Christ CAME THE SECOND TIME at pentecost; in SPIRIT, as the Holy Ghost.

Hebrews 9:28 So, Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (first coming, as flesh), and unto them that look for him (as a thief in the night) he shall appear the SECOND TIME (unseen like a thief, as the Holy Ghost) without SIN UNTO SALVATION.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (the life of the body) that WORKETH in you (his body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY (Christ in you) is he (the body of Christ) that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION ..

John 11:25 ....I am THE RESURRECTION, and the LIFE, he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall HE LIVE.

CHRIST IN YOU.

1 John 2:27 The anointing (THE LIFE) in you ....... will teach you ALL THINGS .......

Colossians 3:3 For ye are DEAD, and your LIFE is HID with Christ in God.

Christ blood COVERS our sins, to REPENT means to change your way of thinking, or your beliefs.

It takes lots of studying God's word and lots of repenting in the way, and things, we believe.

God Bless you.

Addendum. The end of the 1000 years appears also to be a works judgment. Since death and hell are thrown into the lake of fire; again they have no hope. Revelation 20:15 mentions if someone is NOT written in the Book of Life. That would be a foregone conclusion for the first group; or for those physically surviving into the Millenium who may "die at 100 years old being accursed" ( Isaiah 65:20). Those who live the whole span of time until the end of the 1000 years may be judged having never died physically; with some going into eternity and hence being in the Book of Life. That helps that verse to make sense and fits in with the concepts I already discussed as to explain the fates and times of judgments from those of all dispensations.

Matthew 25:31-45 show what happens when Christ returns. For those who do NOT believe in the Milennium period they say that's it; the final judgment equivalent to that of Revelation 20:11-15. Notice the parameters though. The distinction is made among those who did certain works such as visiting one in prison. It is clear that is not for this dispensation but for a time when there is no question who Christ is (as shown from the reaction of the wicked by the 6th Seal). It will be clear after the Resurrection of those in Christ and the Rapture combined that scripture is true; at least to anyone not deliberately avoiding the obvious conclusion. Thus; the result or fruit of true faith at that time can ONLY be demonstrated in the reaction toward God's faithful; which no doubt will include those 144,000 and other believers who are martyred en masse after whatever imprisonment occurs.

After 1000 years of peace on earth; there will be sudden fire from heaven during Satan's last stand. It appears that only those who have transgressed die at that time. There will be no time as there is in the Tribulation for Jerusalem to be attacked; women raped; and men massacred in any prolonged campaign.

The Resurrection of all in John 5:28-29 may appear to be all at once; but the physical resurrection of the dead seems to be at the end of the Millenium (with the "Day of the Lord" likely encompassing the time from the beginning of the Trib to end of Millenium) 2 Peter 3:10.

Basically those taking the mark of the beast WILL all go to sheol for 1000 years. The rest who are PHYSICALLY alive once Christ returns (i.e. those hidden in Petra and the few Gentiles who make it to the end) will be judged if they are able to enter into the Kingdom or not. That's how I see it; perhaps they will immediately die or be cast into hell alive at that time.

Rightly dividing scripture takes careful work.

GOD IS LIFE and LIFE IS GOD

The BODY is only a vessel that holds THE LIFE OF GOD.

When the body DIES (the wages of sin is death: Romans 6:23) it returns to the dust from whence it came.

Ecclesiastes 3:20 ALL go unto one place; for all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Job 34:15 ALL FLESH shall perish together and man shall turn again into dust.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit (LIFE) shall return unto God who gave it.

Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT .....one LIFE

1 Corinthians 15:38 For God giveth it (the new creation, YOU, Christ resurrected) a body as it hath pleased him, and to every SEED his (Christ's) own BODY.

Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY ....

HELL (Hades) is the grave, where men, the dust of the earth go.

The NEW MAN goes to the presence of God, the Father. as the BODY of Christ resurrected.

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .......

Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY is he (the new creation) who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.

Matthew 16:24 .....DENY YOURSELF ......

Colossians 1:27 .....this mystery ......CHRIST IN YOU ..... you the body (of Christ).

John 17:21 That they (new creation) may be ONE, as thou Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they (new creation) may be ONE IN US ....

Revelation 12:2 And SHE (the church, Christ's bride) being with child (the new man) cried, travailing in BIRTH, and pained to BE DELIVERED.

Whosoever BELIEVES SHALL (at the death of this body of flesh) BE SAVED ....... DELIVERED.

May God give us eyes to see and ears to hear.

God BLESS.

Revelation 12:3 - And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 20:2 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

There are a lot more dragon scriptures if you use this website SEARCH BOX out on the red entry page. Use the top box.

Also Nelson Walters has some recent videos on the 7-headed Dragon in scripture.

The BLESSON Tribulation Movie has the dragon in it. It's 60 minutes, from Genesis to the Millennium. It moves real fast :D

QUESTION?

Ephesians 4:4 ONE Body, ONE Spirit ......

Ephesians 4:5 ONE Lord, ONE Faith, ONE Baptism,

Ephesians 4:6 ONE God and Father of ALL .....

What is this ONE?

Is it physical water, or LIVING WATER?

1 Corinthians 1:20 For all the promises of God IN HIM ARE YEA ....

CAN YOU PLEASE GOD?

Matthew 19:21 ......go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor ......

Acts 2:41 ....and were baptised ....this whole chapter is about the outpouring of the Holy ghost ....so it it batpism of physical water of living water?

Acts 2:45 ....and sold their possessions and goods and parted them to all men .....

If it's water baptism, and you are trying to please God why not go and sell all you possessions; also, and part them to men.

Coming to TRUTH is what pleases God.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do his pleasure.

The life in you is Christ, the faith in you is Christ's faith, the works are Christ's works, the baptism in you is the baptism of Christ (the Holy Ghost):

YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST.

John 14:6 .....I AM .... LIFE ......

John 11:25 .....I AM ....... the RESURRECTION .....

Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY is he that hath part in the first RESURRECTION ....

TRUTH! ....will set you free!

You died on the cross; Christ was resurrected and gave YOU HIS LIFE.

Colossians 3:3 For you are dead, and your life is HID IN CHRIST with GOD.

ONE ....ONE .....ONE .....ONE .....ONE

1 Corinthians 15:28 .....that God may be all (ONE) in all (ONE).

God Bless ALL.

Dear "Robin Burcham" Revelation 20:15 example:

I read something today that i noticed. Paul writes in 1Timothy 5:1-16 that we must not choose widow until they are 60 years old. To serve in the church, appealingly abusive to all genders, men and women. And then here many teachers simply fail to see the truth. That in the Lord are men also the women. (now it will be a memory room)!

Because they would fail the church in some way. Even then, do not stick to the church and the word. It seems that Dear Paul was very concerned about the widows. And that he simply may not dare to mention the boys/men.

Now we know that before God we are equal. That is why all younger people are meant here as well. I believe that the Lord will lead us fully to the truth. John 16:13 So when you are young / have habits / or in other ways show your childhood / youth. Then this will be refined with the realization and growth in God. For the day will come when we will stand before the Judge, and then it is good that all our cases are settled with the Lord.

All habits / bad habits will peel off us. For with God we are One.

So make your best friend, and ask for forgiveness if you know it's wrong. And if you know it's wrong, that mistake will chase you until it's no longer a mistake. Hope you understand.

And the day He reveals Himself then we probably have other things to think about :) God Is a great God no one is above or beside our God. He has conquered death, so it no longer has any power! In His Blood we have received healing, hallelujah Amen in Jesus Christ's holy name, stand strong in the Bible and Jesus, friend and all evil will flee from you. Love u in Christ. He Is the one who is great here on earth and is no small god you must believe. He will have all the glory forever, so great is He.

Hi John.

Here's the verse you mentioned in context. Picking it up from the previous verse. John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I AM THE RESURRECTION, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

I believe the Lord is talking about the second death as seen here in Revelation.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelation 2:11.

Also Revelation 20:6.

When we are born again we are Identified with Christ death. "Baptism. Romans 6:2-6.

Christ is the first fruit.

"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

1 Corinthians 15:20-23.

It means we won't face judgment.

God bless.

What an excellent example of complete Trust in Our Lord and His Saving of those who Love Him. If we are here during The Tribulation, we are in His Care and will not be harmed.

Luke,

You not only strongly disagree with me, you strongly disagree with Jesus Christ, and everything else written in the Bible that doesn't agree with your extreme OSAS point of view.

Revelation 20:12

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

I guess you also disagree with the above scripture - stating when the "Book of Life" is opened - the dead will be judged according to their works!

Jesus tells us point blank: Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

So, you are simply ignoring all of the scripture that I listed above, and the entire gospel of Jesus Christ, and you state you are going to heaven anyway.

Jesus, will be our Judge, we can't just ignore all of the scripture!

God Bless.

Millenium.

Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.

And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me. Isaiah 65:8-10.

NOTICE: HERES A CONTRAST GROUP IN Isaiah 65:11-16. These blessings is not to ALL!

Isaiah 65:17. parallels with Revelation 21:1. So you can go back and forward between the two books and get the sequence of events in its order and see the players involved and their separate destinations.

Isaiah 65:18-20 is clearly Israel and clearly future. (Not the Church)

See here the parallels:

Isaiah 65:19. and Revelation 21:4.

Isaiah 65:21_23. and Deuteronomy 28:30-33 ( Deuteronomy 28:45-46) is clearly Israel.

Isaiah 65:25. Clearly future.

Notice the economy, location, two groups and two fates, in both Revelation and Isaiah in both books last few chapters.

Isaiah 66.

Isaiah66;17-21. and Matthew 25:31-46. (Judgement of the individuals of the Nations) Notice three groups 1) The sheep.

2) The Goats. 3) The little ones. (Possibly the 144000 sealed servants.)

Isaiah 66:22. Shows Gods faithful promises and purpose for Israel is eternal.

Now we come to Isaiah 66;23-24.

Isaiah 66:23. Speaks of All those who are saved!

Isaiah 66:24. Speaks of those who are not. ( Revelation 21:1-8.)

IS 66;24. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: FOR THEIR WORM SHALL NOT DIE, NEITHER SHALL THEIR FIRE BE QUENCED; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. ( This speaks of their eternal state of damnation.) as seen in Revelation 20:13-15. Revelation 22:11.

2 Peter 3:6-14. Speaks of two groups, repentance, consequences.

Sister Suze:

Revelation 8:9 And the THIRD PART of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the THIRD PART of the SHIPS were destroyed.

Psalms 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, which thou hast made to play therein.

Isaiah 27:1 In that the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword (the word of God) shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan, that crooked serpent, and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Revelation 13:10 And he that leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity, and he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.

Revelation 20:4 .....and the souls (mines of flesh) that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus .....

God Bless You!

If I might add something about the first and second resurrections, the first resurrection is for those who are saved. This resurrection takes place when Christ comes for His church. The dead (in Christ) will rise first (resurrected), and then we (believers) which are alive and remain with be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.

The second resurrection takes place after the 1,000 reign of Christ. That resurrection will be for all those who rejected Christ. There will be no hope of salvation for those in the second resurrection ( Revelation 20:5-6).

There are two deaths. There's physical death, and there's spiritual death. There's an old saying that says that a believer is somebody who has been born twice but dies once. You're physically born, and you're spiritually born. And when you physically die, that will be the only death you will experience because you'll be with Christ forever.

The non-believer is somebody who is born once, but dies twice. They die in death here, and then they are resurrected and put in the lake of fire for the second death. The second death is eternal separation from Christ in the lake of fire.

Hi Earl.

Here's a portion of your quote.

"What happens to those whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the Book of Life?

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world." End quote.

Earl that's not the Lord being worshipped here.

Here's a few previous verses to get the context.

Revelation 13:4-8. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: AND THEY WORSHIPPED THE BEAST, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5) And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6) And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8) And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

God bless you Earl.

Earl,

I am trying to figure out what message you are sharing here. You answered your first question using Revelation 20:15, so I get that one. In Revelation 13:8, who is being worshipped? I ask because you capitalized Him. Are you saying that it is Christ who is the one they are worshipping in that verse? Maybe I am just misunderstanding because Verse 7 gives us the answer. Also, I am not sure how Acts 22:1 ties into all this. Can you please clarify for me? Thanks for your time!

REVELATION 22

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of this book .....

What happens to those whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the Book of Life?

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.

Acts 22:1 And it shall COME TO PASS, that whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be save.

God Bless YOU!

Series of events, from judgment on into eternity.

Revelation 20:11-15.

Judgment and the division of two groups. Those written in the book of life and those cast into the lake of fire. Matthew 25:41.

Revelation 21:1-6.

New heaven and new earth.

Revelation 21:7-8.

A mention of two separate groups set for two destinations.

Here in Revelation 21:9-27. we have

A view of the bride and great city Jerusalem and the nations of them which are saved and the gates.

Notice who's is absent in verse 27.(And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:) Note; Same group in Revelation 20:15.

We shall see this group again in the next chapter.

However here's a group that made it in! ( but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.)

Revelation 22:1-21.

Verse 10 the climax.

"And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand."

Separation. and fate sealed.

NO REFINING FIRE.

Revelation 22:11-15. HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: and he which is filthy, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL: and he that is righteous, LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: and he that is holy, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, and WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.( Same group in Revelation 20:15.

Revelation21: 27.)

and Matthew 25:41.

Who's the unjust that is unjust still?

A warning!! Revelation 22:18-19.

God bless.

Brother S Spencer:

I know that you and I disagree, but I also know this is of God.

Christ said I will set brother against brother, etc.

This has a PURPOSE.

NOTE: The notion that there is no Hell and no Satan comes from the same Evil source that told Eve she shall not surely die.

What was that source?

Who is this Satan?

In Genesis it says he is the most subtil of all the beast of the field.

Psalms says man differs not, than a beast of the field.

Man is the most SUBTIL, of the BEAST.

Job said Satan came in with man to present himself to God.

God ask Satan where he had been?

Satan said walking to and fro on the earth.

Satan is not a spirit, Satan is flesh.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful (Satan the great deceiver) above all things, and desperately WICKED ...

2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that WICKED be revealed ......and destroyed by God's words and God's coming, the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 12:8 And the earth helped the woman, and open her mouth (the Grave) and swallowed up the dragon ...

Revelation 20:1-2 Satan was bound in the GRAVE (pit) ...

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expire (the age of grace) Satan shall be loosed out of his PRISON (the grave, the second resurrection). To deceive once more: these resurrected still have a heart of stone, the WICKED and deceived.

Then Judgement, and creation given a heart of flesh.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth (being raised back up) shall worship him, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LIFE of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.

God Bless YOU!

Shirley;

There are TWO resurrections.

Those God GAVE to HIS Son Jesus, The CALLED and CHOSEN, were resurrected with Christ.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath PART in the first resurrection ....

Luke 20:34 Neither can they DIE ANYMORE: for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Those not Called and not Chosen, will die and lay in the grave, along with those that have die from the beginning.

At the second resurrection EVERYONE in the graves will be resurrected back to their earthly flesh; AND JUDGED.

Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them (those at the second resurrection) the JUDGEMENT WRITTEN, this HONOUR hath all his SAINTS (those in the first resurrection).

Isaiah 26:9 .....when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth (second resurrection) the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons OF GOD (those in the first resurrection, that will be their JUDGES).

Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF shall be DELIEVERED from the bondage of corruption (the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

1 Corinthians 15:28 ...that God may be ALL IN ALL.

God Bless YOU!

The things for us to know have been revealed but also more shall be revealed in the future (PLEASE read: 1 Corinthians 13:9-12); however, what we do know is that it's absolutely necessary to accept Truth prior to leaving this Earth, especially if one deems it necessary to be at peace with The CREATOR here on Earth, and also in the Afterlife. Obviously, the only other option is to spend the Afterlife in fire described as being seven times hotter than Earthly fire, in utter darkness, with a hellified angry Satan, and his demons, and other things that are guaranteed to bring indescribable torture in a place that could only be described as Hell; and that itself, will be cast into the Lake of Fire that burns... brimstone Revelation 20:10 &

Revelation 21:7-8:

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his GOD, and he shall be My son.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

At least on Earth, we are given the opportunity to repent, or to get it right, and keep it right as King David did but the Afterlife, has more sense of an irrevocable permanence.

St. John 3:5-7

JESUS answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of GOD.

6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

2 Peter 2:21

"For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them."

Good afternoon everyone!

Everyday there is a new way for IT (satan) to come after all people, all over the world!!!

How much more can we take from our EVIL POLITICAL GOVERNMENT!!

All they want is to fill there pockets with filthy lucre, murder mankind with its injections

to change the way our LORD JESUS created us!!

The LORD says not to call anyone foolish or You will face the judgement, but this

takes the cake!!!

We are not to be deceived by a world gone mad!!!!

We are to read the LORD'S word and stand on each one!!!

JESUS gave us wisdom and knowledge to see right thru there evil deeds!!!

Bless my family, friends, neighbors and all believers thru these dispicable times!!

How long, oh LORD, holy and true must we wait for YOUR second coming?? We will never doubt YOU and YOUR FATHER for all YOUR words are HOLY and TRUE!!!

Death and sin shall be swollowed up in VICTORY!!!

1 CORITHIANS 15 (read whole chapter)

YOU are our glorious and wonderful LORD of ALL!!!

We thank you LORD for all YOUR mercy, grace, love, truth, comfort, kindness, watchful eye,

for YOU alone can do all these things for us!!!

May IT (satan) enjoy it's time in the bottomless pit! Revelation 20:3

I pray in JESUS name -- AMEN!!

For I am a sinner!!!!!!

Richard:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week....

This is talking about Christ confirming the NEW COVENANT.

From his entering into Jerusalem (Sunday)on the colt of and ass (prophecy) to his resurrection to LIFE (Sunday), ONE WEEK and the covenant was confirmed.

.......and in the midst of the week (the day he was crucified) he shall cause the sacrifice (old covenant) and obligation TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate (no LIFE other than the LIFE OF CHRIST), even until the consumption, and that DETERMINED (judgement) shall be poured out on the DESOLATE (those not having THE LIFE OF CHRIST).

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice (old covenant) shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation SET UP, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

THREE and ONE HALF YEARS, Christ ministry in the flesh. FIRST COMING.

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and COMETH to the one thousand three hundred thirty five days (PENTECOST), Christ ministry in the Spirit. SECOND COMING.

Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues shall see their dead bodies (sinful flesh, dead in trespasses) three days and a half (Christ betrayal to Christ resurrection) and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in the graves.

Revelation 11:11 and after three days and a half (laying in the grave with Christ) the SPIRIT OF LIFE from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet (these whose names are written in the BOOK OF LIFE, once dead, Now have THE LIFE OF CHRIST, and great fear fell upon them that saw them.

Revelation 20:9 Blessed and Holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.

God Bless YOU!

Prophets, Prophetic, gifts of Prophecy in New Testament

Romans 12:6,

2Peter 1:16-21,

1Timothy 4:14,

Revelation 1:3,

Gifting working within the Body: 1Corinthians 12, 1Corinthians 13, direction concerning in Church: 1Corinthians 14:29-40,

Prophets yet to come: Revelation 11:3-19, false prophet yet to come: Revelation 16:12-15, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10,

Revelation 19:10,

Revelation 22,

John the Baptist referred to as Prophet: Luke 1:76, Luke 3:4, Matthew 13:57, Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24, Luke 7:26,28, Luke 20:3-20, John 1:19-37,

Acts 3:22-26, Acts 7:35-60, Titus 1:12,

Matthew 10:41,

Jesus talking about Prophets in HIS day, referred to himself also: Matthew 21:26, Matthew 11:9, Mark 11:32, John 4:4,

Luke 13:33, Luke 24,

Paul & others acknowledged prophecy, Prophets, even Women that did Prophecy: Acts 21:8-14,

Hope these are helpful

Adam,

Thank's for the reply. My apology if I offended you. Now that I know that you are sensitive about someone disagreeing with you, I'll be more careful. Maybe just saying I respectfully disagree would be better? I am not disagreeing that everyone will have their day of judgement. We will all stand before the Lord one day. I just don't believe that both believers and non-believers get judged together at the same day. 2 Corinthians 5:10 is for believers only. This is the Bema seat of Christ. This judgment for believers is to determine their reward. It's described in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3. Believers pass through the fire, and whatever is of Christ, we will receive a reward, and whatever is not will burn, but we as believers will be saved ( 1 Corinthians 3:15). I'm glad you mentioned Revelation 20:12-15. To answer your question, yes, it does indicate multitudes will be judged at once, but multitudes doesn't necessarily mean both believers and non-believers together. It just says multitudes. So who are they? According to the verses that precede this, these multitudes are non-believers who will be at the Great White Throne judgment ( Revelation 20:11). They are resurrected after the 1,000 reign of Christ, and they (multitudes) will be judged and cast into the lake of fire. They don't take part in the first resurrection. There will be no believers at this judgment because this resurrection takes place after the 1,000 year reign, and Revelation 20:6 tells us that we (believers) take part in the first resurrection, the second death has no power over us, and that we will be reigning with Christ for 1,000 years. While we are reigning with Christ, all the non-believers are still in the grave awaiting their resurrection and judgment. Everyone at that judgment (Multitudes) will be cast into the lake of fire. No person at the GWT judgment will escape the second death in the lake of fire.

Hello sir or madam, I am happy to dialog with you if you share your name so I know who I'm communicating with and if you are respectful. Just saying someone is "incorrect" without any scriptures to back it up isn't getting off on the right foot, however.

I believe all will be judged on a particular day because the Bible says the phrase "day of judgment", "the day when", the "last day". It doesn't say there's multiple days of judgment or a week or month or years of judgment, or that judgment is only whenever you die. Here's some examples:

1 John 4:17 "day of judgment"

Matthew 12:36 "day of judgment"

2 Peter 2:9 "day of judgment"

Matthew 11:22 "day of judgment"

2 Corinthians 5:10 "we must all"

Romans 2:16 - "the day when"

John 12:48 "last day"

Revelation 20:12-15 is a vision, but that verse also indicates multitudes judged at once does it not? So, the scriptural support is strong. Do you feel you have just as much scriptural support against this? Do you know of any verses that say the the opposite?

Aside from being a particular day, you questioned that all will be judged, and suggested 2 different judgments.

We also know this judgment is for everyone, because in verse 15 it says those not found in the book of life were cast into the fire. So, this event sorted people. It doesn't say that in this judgment ALL went to hell or ALL went to heaven. A judgment is a judgment of each individual "according to their works" and determines where they go according to verse 15.

"If that's what you are saying, then that is incorrect."

If your belief is based on scripture then please share it. If your belief is not based on scripture then you have greater concerns.

"Otherwise, how are we to know if what you believe is the correct truth?"

Since you didn't provide any scriptural support someone is more likely to ask you this.

God bless.

Tony:

There is flesh and blood: A BODY

There is ONE SPIRIT: IMMORTAL LIFE

Flesh and blood, the body, dies and returns to dust,

Spirit, life, CANNOT die.

Hell is a doctrine of man: If a body of flesh and blood was placed in literal fire, it would be consumed in a few minutes, there would be not eternal torment. No need for a second resurrection.

If SPIRIT (there is only ONE SPIRIT and that SPIRIT IS GOD)( Ephesians 4:4-6) was placed in literal fire, it would not be affected.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Lazarus and the rich man is a PARABLE.

Lazarus went to the bosom of Abraham, symbolic of the BORN AGAIN, being ONE with God.

The rich man went to the GRAVE, a gulf that CANNOT be passed over UNTIL the second resurrection of the DEAD back to their flesh, to be judged and brought to TRUTH.

There are TWO RESURRECTION, one has already occurred, Christ and those that were ORDAINED to have their part in that FIRST RESURRECTION.

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (those CHOSEN to have their part in the first resurrection) DIE ANY MORE: for they (the CHOSEN) are equal into the ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the children of the (FIRST) resurrection.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath part in the FIRST resurrection ......

The second resurrection TO JUDGEMENT, has not yet occurred BUT:

Isaiah 26:9 ...For when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth (second resurrection) the inhabitants of the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

1 Timothy 4:10 ...for we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those in the second resurrection), specially those (in the first resurrection) who believe.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature (man) WAITETH (second resurrection) for the manifestation of the Sons of God (first resurrection).

Romans 8:21 Because the creature (man) ITSELF shall ALSO be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (the GRAVE) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

God Bless YOU!