My Father in the third Heaven, thank you so much for my Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus on this ministry. I pray that we all can reason with one another in love through the Holy Spirit that our hearts my rejoice in the word.
Father, I am not perfect, it took me 50 years to finally realize who you are. Now , I ask for guidance know my family in the Body of Christ Jesus in Love.
I pray that we all be like minded in Christ Jesus through the Holy Spirit to learn, to study and to pray .
May you bless this prayer with love to all that reads it.
Father, my heart goes out to all that are ill and stress out with the cares of this world. Your love in your word is our instructions to live a righteous life through the Holy Spirit.
Father, I know life is to short, but you will always give the grace.
Thank you Ray for your heartfelt love & concern for all who engage with each other on these pages; and also for those who read & consider what is shared here but don't respond. Indeed, we are all vitally connected to our Lord & Savior & long to grow in knowledge of His Love & Compassion for all. His Work in us might be very long in duration, but certain it is, to the end that each one will be presented faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy. I feel that there is not only great joy in Heaven when even one sinner repents, but also when every child of God has his or her heart being increasingly filled with the knowledge of God & reflecting His blessed Son to others. Thank you for your concern and prayers.
We have only one Father which art in heaven."And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."Mt.22.8 Yet you set him in Third heaven which is all what 50 years have done for you? Ever learning and yet not coming to truth seems to be on the rise in this forum. It is not Greek perspective; neither is it Hebrew perspective but the perspective of the Holy Spirit is what we need.
Greek words as are bandied about here and what nit picking! it is like potsherd used by Job to ease his itch.His house is gone but a pot shard can give the hand something to do. "So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning" The latter half begins now and is by asking God to enlighten your eye.
I understand and appreciate exactly what you are saying . Personally I have always thought that the third heaven will be the Kingdom of God on Earth , established when Christ returns . We are all reading the same Word but our understanding is not always on the same level , we have to be patient with our brothers and sisters , recognising that God will open our understanding at the pace that He knows is right for each of us as individuals . God is in charge of each one of us on an individual level , He has a personal relationship with each one of us individually and deals with each one of us separately as individuals .
Imagine if you have lots of children different ages , you can see that they are all different personalities at different stages in their lives . You love them all the same but you don't speak to them and treat them all exactly the same do you ? You wouldn't speak to a twelve year old the same way that you would speak to a three year old would you ? This is how God is with us . When Christ returns we Christians will all be on the same level , regardless of our ages , spiritual ages or physical ages . For now we are all walking the same path but at different places as God sees fit to deal with us . We must be patient and tolerant of each other as God is patient and tolerant with us . He is the most patient and loving parent and we must be a patient and loving family , encouraging each other , not shaming or belittling each other . God reveals to us in His own time . His own time should be respected and not questioned .
Yes it does , those few verses seem to be talking about a man who had had a vision , a vision of the future perhaps ? That is what I believe and in the future the Kingdom of God will fill this earth , there are many references to this . Here are just a few Numbers 14 v 21 , Job 19 v 25 , Psalm 46 and 67 and 72 and 96 , 97 , 98 , 99 and 102 . Ezekiel 37 , Micah 4 , Habakkuk 2 , Zephaniah 3 , Zechariah 2 and 14 , 1st Corinthians 15 , 2nd Corinthians 6 v 16 , 2nd Peter 3 and Revelations chapters 20 , 21 and 22 . This is the gospel of the Kingdom .
Thanks Fuji for sharing you understanding. I guess we would differ in understanding this passage as read in 2 Corinthians 12:1-9, both by the one who is speaking & the third heaven shown by vision or revelation. I can see where most of your other (OT) references point to the future, but I can't connect the vision of that passage to any of them. Thank you again.
Father, I am not perfect, it took me 50 years to finally realize who you are. Now , I ask for guidance know my family in the Body of Christ Jesus in Love.
I pray that we all be like minded in Christ Jesus through the Holy Spirit to learn, to study and to pray .
May you bless this prayer with love to all that reads it.
Father, my heart goes out to all that are ill and stress out with the cares of this world. Your love in your word is our instructions to live a righteous life through the Holy Spirit.
Father, I know life is to short, but you will always give the grace.
Ray, in Christ Jesus .
We have only one Father which art in heaven."And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."Mt.22.8 Yet you set him in Third heaven which is all what 50 years have done for you? Ever learning and yet not coming to truth seems to be on the rise in this forum. It is not Greek perspective; neither is it Hebrew perspective but the perspective of the Holy Spirit is what we need.
Greek words as are bandied about here and what nit picking! it is like potsherd used by Job to ease his itch.His house is gone but a pot shard can give the hand something to do. "So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning" The latter half begins now and is by asking God to enlighten your eye.
Imagine if you have lots of children different ages , you can see that they are all different personalities at different stages in their lives . You love them all the same but you don't speak to them and treat them all exactly the same do you ? You wouldn't speak to a twelve year old the same way that you would speak to a three year old would you ? This is how God is with us . When Christ returns we Christians will all be on the same level , regardless of our ages , spiritual ages or physical ages . For now we are all walking the same path but at different places as God sees fit to deal with us . We must be patient and tolerant of each other as God is patient and tolerant with us . He is the most patient and loving parent and we must be a patient and loving family , encouraging each other , not shaming or belittling each other . God reveals to us in His own time . His own time should be respected and not questioned .
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