I believe every reborn christian is experiencing moments during prayer where one cries without any apparent reason. Yes cry without any reason at all.
What is this? Why is it occuring? How is it possible to cry without any reason? Without feeling sad or happy or anything?
The fisrt time it occured to me personally was at the time of my regeneration. After I cried I was feeling so "light" and happy. I was feeling "clean". But it keeps occuring quite often during prayer.
What is it? Well, it is the presence of God that makes this happen.
What is the reason? Here opinions differ. Others say it is mere the presence of God. God wishes to show to us that He is there together with us during prayer and listening to us .Others say that during that time of tears our heart is getting cleansed. Thus it is a way that God cleans our heart. But whatever the reason is the fact is that we feel nice and happy after those tears.
Has anybody something to share, a personal experience about these "tears by God"?
Thanks for sharing this bro Giannis. Like you, my first encounter with the LORD was in Oct, 1979 while in the military. Though brought up in a loving Christian home & having lost my mother in 1969, I probably was still grieving (& rebelling) for what the Lord had done. I didn't want to go the way of the world, but with peer influence & a lack of spiritual fortitude, I soon found my way into a worldly sensual lifestyle. But the Lord hadn't let me go altogether; in hindsight, it seemed that He allowed my departure from Him and into the world so that I might see that sin, even with the temporary enjoyment it brings, also promises misery, a lack of deep satisfaction, & of course, dealing with an angry God.
The LORD now set the time to approach Him, even as He went before me. There was no one in my living quarters at the time (usually a couple of men); the Spirit prompted me to reach for my hidden Bible in the top shelf for the first time in eight years; even just reading a small portion of Scripture (can't even remember what I read), was sufficient for the transaction to begin. My many sins over the years overwhelmed me & combined with deep sorrow for it, sinning against such a Holy Loving God, brought me to my knees in uncontrollable tears. I wept much for straying away, for my awful sins, & grieving the Lord Who had the power to consign me to hell - but He chose to have mercy on me, one who deserved none of it. And just moments later, the tears ceased, & joy & laughter filled me, as the Spirit confirmed my release from sin's shackles, a new birth was given, & I was now accepted through Jesus Christ His Son. If anyone walked into the room during that time, would certainly believe I was a good candidate for a mental asylum. God was so good to me - and I sense this is similar to what you Giannis had experienced at your conversion.
Yes, weeping does happen whilst in prayer. But I believe one needs to be alone with God & the Holy Spirit fully engaged with us. GBU.
Brother just want you to know, Grace is not unmerited favor, it is the spirit of conviction your heart to obey. (G5485) it's NOT "legalism" it's LOVE ( 1 John 5:3) We've got to be obedient to his 2 covenants of promise (10 commandments and rainbow covenat "eat clean") thats what Christ(Yeshua) magnified and made honorable, just like his very own character and life was pleasing unto God(Yahovah) he opened the door for all nations to enter that covenant verbally presented and agreed to at the rock at Horeb, and *then* written in stone at Mt Sinai. but Israel had already transgressed that agreement ( Exodus 19 & 20) when Moses came down with the 10 commandments in writing. *then* the sacrificial law was added until Christ(Yeshua) would finish the punishment with a perfect sacrifice, effectively restoring the original covenant (10 commandments.) Moses prophesies about ending the punishment of the sacrificial law here in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 but never did the eternal 10 comandments go away. now because the 10 northern tribe were scattered into all the world via mixing seed(mixed offspring) the covenant is open to ALL nations and people. I really wish people actually read this book most have it wrong, with many false gospels and dangerous doctrines of men and demons, mixing holy and profane, teaching traditions as commandments while tossing out the actual commandments, ( Matt 24)
this is why he said "narrow is the path, few will find it." - Matt 7:14
Love your neighbor according to scripture - James 2:8 what scripture? Leviticus 19:15-18.
Thank you Michael for your comment. Though I would not agree with some of what you have written, what perplexed me is whether your comment was intended for me or to be sent to another. What I shared with Giannis was about his question about weeping before God whilst praying. You have shared about Grace being not legalism but love. I'm sorry, I can't make the connection with your comment to mine which was written to Giannis.
Though the matter about the Law, you stated: "We've got to be obedient to his 2 covenants of promise (10 commandments and rainbow covenat "eat clean")", I would disagree with you on. My understanding from the Word, is that we are not under the Law, whether as a requirement to obey or be reliant on it for any degree of salvific merit. The Law was given to Israel, and Israel alone, for a purpose, and the Cross of Christ did away with that Law which could give no salvation ( Romans 8:3, Galatians 3:19-26). Though there was nothing wrong with the Truth & Purity of the Law as uttered by God Himself ( Romans 7:12), its purpose was served to bring Israel to understand that the Law could never change anyone - that they were in bondage to it & their end would be death. The Law simply could not save them. But if they would hear & believe in their Messiah, then full salvation & new life in Jesus would be theirs, freeing them from a Law that only revealed sin & led to death ( Romans 8:1-4). If any believer in Christ is dependent on the Old Law to demonstrate or even give any extra worth to their salvation (or even to please God), then that faith is not based on the full merit of Christ's Sacrifice - for faith in Christ alone, not by any works of goodness or obedience to the Law, will save. And any fusion of the two (Faith plus Law obedience) negates the purity & worth of the Cross.
I have not experienced crying as you have but I have experienced a few episodes where I have been so unsettled in spirit, anguished of heart, and a sense of urgency to pray. In each episode I soon found out that someone I knew was having great difficulties, one even struggling at the end of life from a stroke. Another was my friend who had a debilitating stroke at 38, another my father-in-law had just found out he had cancer, and the other, a young boy lost his life in a family in the neighborhood.
I know that this is the Holy Spirit interceding in and through me for others even though I did not know what was happening to these people at the time. In a few of these instances, the effects on me went on for several weeks. But in all of them, it stopped just as suddenly as it had started. And then it wasn't long before I got the news about the one I was interceding for. These were very intense experiences and I knew that I needed to be in prayer as long as I was feeling God's hand on me and the Spirit in me pray without knowing details.
Hasn't occurred for me in about 20 years, but the memories of these experiences are still very vivid and instructive to me.
Thanks GiGi. This has never happened to me but I have heard of other people, like you, to whom God has even given the name and/or place of someone they had never known to pray for. Blessings.
These are very humbling and sobering experiences because I know that someone is in dire need and for some reason God chose me to partner with the Spirit to intercede, feeling the heaviness of it all and the strong sense of God's hand upon me, I just wanted to obey Him in every way for the sake of the ones I was praying for even though I did not know who it was until after the time of intercession ended. I don't take about this too much. It isn't a regular occurrence for me. But I did learn so much about God's great power and the need for me to keep sharp as to the working of the Spirit in and through me.
How awesome is our Saving God who calls us to pray, helps us to pray, and responds to our prayers in the best ways according to His wise counsel, perfect will, and good pleasure. May He always be glorified in the saints.
I believe every reborn christian is experiencing moments during prayer where one cries without any apparent reason. Yes cry without any reason at all.
What is this? Why is it occuring? How is it possible to cry without any reason? Without feeling sad or happy or anything?
The fisrt time it occured to me personally was at the time of my regeneration. After I cried I was feeling so "light" and happy. I was feeling "clean". But it keeps occuring quite often during prayer.
What is it? Well, it is the presence of God that makes this happen.
What is the reason? Here opinions differ. Others say it is mere the presence of God. God wishes to show to us that He is there together with us during prayer and listening to us .Others say that during that time of tears our heart is getting cleansed. Thus it is a way that God cleans our heart. But whatever the reason is the fact is that we feel nice and happy after those tears.
Has anybody something to share, a personal experience about these "tears by God"?
Blessings.
The LORD now set the time to approach Him, even as He went before me. There was no one in my living quarters at the time (usually a couple of men); the Spirit prompted me to reach for my hidden Bible in the top shelf for the first time in eight years; even just reading a small portion of Scripture (can't even remember what I read), was sufficient for the transaction to begin. My many sins over the years overwhelmed me & combined with deep sorrow for it, sinning against such a Holy Loving God, brought me to my knees in uncontrollable tears. I wept much for straying away, for my awful sins, & grieving the Lord Who had the power to consign me to hell - but He chose to have mercy on me, one who deserved none of it. And just moments later, the tears ceased, & joy & laughter filled me, as the Spirit confirmed my release from sin's shackles, a new birth was given, & I was now accepted through Jesus Christ His Son. If anyone walked into the room during that time, would certainly believe I was a good candidate for a mental asylum. God was so good to me - and I sense this is similar to what you Giannis had experienced at your conversion.
Yes, weeping does happen whilst in prayer. But I believe one needs to be alone with God & the Holy Spirit fully engaged with us. GBU.
this is why he said "narrow is the path, few will find it." - Matt 7:14
Love your neighbor according to scripture - James 2:8 what scripture? Leviticus 19:15-18.
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Though the matter about the Law, you stated: "We've got to be obedient to his 2 covenants of promise (10 commandments and rainbow covenat "eat clean")", I would disagree with you on. My understanding from the Word, is that we are not under the Law, whether as a requirement to obey or be reliant on it for any degree of salvific merit. The Law was given to Israel, and Israel alone, for a purpose, and the Cross of Christ did away with that Law which could give no salvation ( Romans 8:3, Galatians 3:19-26). Though there was nothing wrong with the Truth & Purity of the Law as uttered by God Himself ( Romans 7:12), its purpose was served to bring Israel to understand that the Law could never change anyone - that they were in bondage to it & their end would be death. The Law simply could not save them. But if they would hear & believe in their Messiah, then full salvation & new life in Jesus would be theirs, freeing them from a Law that only revealed sin & led to death ( Romans 8:1-4). If any believer in Christ is dependent on the Old Law to demonstrate or even give any extra worth to their salvation (or even to please God), then that faith is not based on the full merit of Christ's Sacrifice - for faith in Christ alone, not by any works of goodness or obedience to the Law, will save. And any fusion of the two (Faith plus Law obedience) negates the purity & worth of the Cross.
I have not experienced crying as you have but I have experienced a few episodes where I have been so unsettled in spirit, anguished of heart, and a sense of urgency to pray. In each episode I soon found out that someone I knew was having great difficulties, one even struggling at the end of life from a stroke. Another was my friend who had a debilitating stroke at 38, another my father-in-law had just found out he had cancer, and the other, a young boy lost his life in a family in the neighborhood.
I know that this is the Holy Spirit interceding in and through me for others even though I did not know what was happening to these people at the time. In a few of these instances, the effects on me went on for several weeks. But in all of them, it stopped just as suddenly as it had started. And then it wasn't long before I got the news about the one I was interceding for. These were very intense experiences and I knew that I needed to be in prayer as long as I was feeling God's hand on me and the Spirit in me pray without knowing details.
Hasn't occurred for me in about 20 years, but the memories of these experiences are still very vivid and instructive to me.
These are very humbling and sobering experiences because I know that someone is in dire need and for some reason God chose me to partner with the Spirit to intercede, feeling the heaviness of it all and the strong sense of God's hand upon me, I just wanted to obey Him in every way for the sake of the ones I was praying for even though I did not know who it was until after the time of intercession ended. I don't take about this too much. It isn't a regular occurrence for me. But I did learn so much about God's great power and the need for me to keep sharp as to the working of the Spirit in and through me.
How awesome is our Saving God who calls us to pray, helps us to pray, and responds to our prayers in the best ways according to His wise counsel, perfect will, and good pleasure. May He always be glorified in the saints.
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