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  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    (Hebrews Part 4):

    Hebrews 1:5 - For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

    For to which of the angels said he at any time (and this is Psalm 2:7): Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? Some say that begotten means give birth. It's like, how do we get out of this one? It sounds like it contradicts everything I previously shared about the word Son. Well, Psalm 2 is what is called a Coronation Psalm. It is the day in which the Father passes the throne to His Son.

    And that's why He's called a Son. He didn't become a Son that day by birth. He became the inheritor of His Father's throne. And His Son is now the King. He became King on that day, His coronation. The word begotten, its root word is also used for creation, which is where we get the term birth. But also, it's used for creating the world. Anything that is generated out is represented by this word. So, when a person becomes King, this word is used.

    Hebrews 1:6 - And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

    What is interesting is that this phrase "brings the first begotten into the world" is making reference to His second coming. And the command is let all the angels of God worship Him. You don't worship somebody that's not God. Even Jesus said that in Matthew Chapter 4 when the devil says bow down and worship me and I will give you all the kingdoms of the world. And Jesus said you don't bow down and worship anybody but God. This is the superiority of the preeminence of the Son. He is to be worshipped.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Brother Jesse!!

    Begotten is used that way with Issac.

    Blessings Brother.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (Hebrews Part 7):

    Hebrews 2:11 - For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

    The word sanctify means to set apart. It is the verb form of the word holy. It's the word holy and the word saints. We are called saints. We are the set apart people. When the Holy Spirit comes into my spirit and saves me, I am then set apart and I belong to Christ. That whole process, once it's finished, it's called sanctification. It is the word HAGIADZO. So, you have the adjective that describes saint or holy, and then you have the verb that describes the action that takes place to arrive at that condition. And so, the one who sanctifies, and they who are sanctified, are all from one source. It's all from God.

    Hebrews 2:17 - Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

    This is not the normal word for reconciliation in the scriptures. This is the word propitiation (HILASKESTHAI) which means satisfaction. It's the same word for mercy seat in the Old Testament. The priest would go into the holy of holies once a year and sprinkle blood on the mercy seat for the sins of the people and for the nation Israel.

    Jesus Christ is our mercy seat. He is our sacrifice. It is His blood that is sprinkled on the mercy seat to make satisfaction for the sins of the people. He was a merciful and faithful high priest in the things pertaining to God. That is, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (Hebrews Part 6):

    Hebrews 2:4 - God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

    God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts, or more literally, distributions of the Holy Ghost. It is distributions (MERISMOIS), not gifts. This word is never used for gifts in the scriptures. The translators meant to say that the Holy Spirit was given as a gift to people. If you say the gifts of the Holy Spirit, people start thinking about what we know of in the church as the gifts of the Holy Spirit. But these are distributions of the Holy Spirit, according to his own will?

    Now the word own is not in the Greek text. The translators put it there in order to attribute according to His will to be to the Holy Spirit. But in the Greek text, according to His will is a prepositional phrase connected to the first line, God also bearing them witness. And these gifts (if you want to call them that), signs and wonders, and miracles, and distributions of the Holy Spirit, were given according to God's will.

    So, the signs and wonders, and miracles and distributions, were to authenticate the gospel message. That's why the word confirmed up in Verse 3 and confirmed to us by them that heard Him. The message of the gospel of Jesus Christ was confirmed by the provision of physical miracles for people to see.

    Hebrews 2:6 - But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

    This is a quote from Psalm 8, and it's a reference to human beings. Don't let the term "the son of man throw you off." There is no definite article with the term son of man in the Greek text. It's making reference to human beings. So, what is man, that you are mindful of him? Or son of man, that thou visiteth him? I mean who are we? We're nothing. We're fallen creatures!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (Hebrews Part 5):

    Hebrews 1:8 - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    But unto the Son he says ( Psalm 45:6-7), Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: Jesus is being called God!

    Hebrews 2:1 - Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

    The word ought is the word necessary. So, it is necessary to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. I'd just like to share a few technical points about the text. First of all, the text itself, where it says the more earnest heed, that means to pay attention. It is a special word. It is a navigational and specific nautical term for ship terminology. The more earnest heed means to bring a ship into the harbor. It means to guide the ship into the harbor where it's going to be stationed.

    The King James says lest at any time we should let them slip. Notice the word them is in italics. It's not let them slip, but that we should slip. It is literally lest at any time, we should slip past. It is a nautical term that means to drift past the harbor. So, in one instance, the helmsman is steering the ship into the harbor to its docking station. In another instance, the helmsman is just letting the ship drift past where he's supposed to go in.

    He's saying that if you don't have a response to what you're hearing, that's your "take to earnest heed." If you don't make a responsible response, you can be shipwrecked. That's basically what it's all about. Just listening is not enough. We must take the earnest heed, the more special attention to the things that we have heard, lest at any time, we should slip past them like a ship that misses the harbor. He's talking about securing. Make sure you've made that last step, not just listening, but your response is very important!



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