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  • Ronald Whittemore - 1 year ago
    The week of Jesus's crucifixion.

    Part 2

    Day four, 13th of Nisan, they were in Bethany in Simon the leper's house, and a woman came in and poured precious ointment on Jesus's head, Matthew 26:6-13, Mark 14:3-9. Judas makes the deal to betray Jesus, Matthew 26:14-16, Mark 14:10-11. Toward the end of the day, the disciples ask him where he wants them to prepare to eat the Passover, Matthew 26:17-19, Mark 14:12-15, and Luke 22:7-13.

    In Mark 14:12 and Luke 22:7, it says that on the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the Passover lambs. The Passover lambs are killed on the 14th, Passover day, not on the first day of unleavened bread, the 15th. The Last Supper was at the beginning of Passover day, before the lambs were killed; we must remember that days start at sundown. We also see in John 18:28 that after the Last Supper, when they took Jesus to Pilate, they would not go into the judgment hall because they would be defiled, as they had not eaten the Passover.

    When the sun went down on the fourth day, which we call Wednesday, is the beginning of Passover day, the 14th of Nisan, the day Jesus was crucified and the Passover lambs are killed.

    The lambs are killed on the 14th in the evening, when the sun begins to go down, any time after noon until it sets. The lambs are eaten the night of the 15th, the first day of the seven-day feast, which is a holy convocation/Sabbath, Exodus 12:6-16, the same night they went out of Egypt, not on Passover day.

    The Lord's Supper and the crucifixion occurred on Passover day, the fifth day since Jesus rode into Jerusalem, marking it as the 5th day of the week we call Thursday. Friday was the 15th, the first day of Unleavened Bread. John called it a high day, John 19:31. The Greek word is megas, meaning great, a feast holy convocation, which resulted in two Sabbaths in a row, Friday and Saturday.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Ronald.

    Thanks for the time line, I read through it but I would have to study more on it with a open book.

    With the time line you provided what day would you say Jesus was crucified?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi S Spencer,

    Thanks, brother. We recognize the sacrifice, humiliation, and pain Jesus endured to atone for our sins; He fully paid the penalty required to overcome death, and in Him is our hope. In my study of Scripture, it would have been Thursday, the 14th of Nisan, Passover Day, a prepreation day when Jesus was crucified; the next day, Friday, was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a Holy convocation, an annual Sabbath. Whether that matters more than the tradition of man. The same could be asked about the day we honor when Jesus was resurrected, which we call Easter.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks Brother.

    I have the time line slightly different when I factor in the 3 days ( and 3 nights)

    What is most important is that Christ died for our sins and that he rose again from the grave!

    Paul put it this way in 1 Corinthians 15:14-22. "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

    For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

    And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

    Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

    If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

    But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

    For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

    For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    We can be sure of that being true and not mans tradition.

    I don't participate in the Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies and all that that comes with traditional celebration.

    But I celebgate this marvelous day!

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hey S Spencer,

    That is correct, our main focus should be on Jesus's death and resurrection, for it is our only way to the Father and eternal life. Like you quoted, "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." The other is just for discussion, whether it is tradition or Scripture.

    Not to debate, looking at 3 days and three nights, what Jesus said it would be. If Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday, Thursday would be the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, making it a holy convocation, a Sabbath. That would make Friday a regular day, a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, the women could have gone to the grave on Friday, plus Jesus would have had to resurrect on Saturday before sunset.

    Thursday is the only day of the week that fits Scripture.

    Thanks, brother, have a great weekend.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 12 months ago
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    Just checking in on you.

    Hope all is well.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Thanks brother, I am here, just have not felt compelled to reply or post. I read the posts most everyday, enjoying Jesse's, and your replies. Maybe you can post on the gap you spoke of. Genesis is a wonderful book, as they all are.

    I enjoyed your post on your business life, I have had an interesting work life but I am now in my 70's, but I have been bless with great heath.

    Be well and God bless.

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Brother Ronald.

    I have been enjoying and learning Brother Jesse's Greek perspective also.

    I certainly haven't forgotten about posting on the gap theory perspective.

    Perhaps when Brother Jesse complete Jude.

    I will be going on vacation next month so it will probably be after I get back.

    I also will revisit the restoration of Israel and the Millennium God's covenant to Abraham and the Davidic covenant that offers hope for the future of Israel and the establishment of a Messianic Kingdom ( 2 Samuel 7:13, 16).

    Thanks for responding and it's always great to fellowship with you!

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Ronald,

    I was thinking of you also. Glad to hear from you and I hope you are well.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Thank you Gigi,

    Hope all is well with you and your family. I am glad they had their trip with no issues coming back home.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes Brother Ronald

    I could agree with that.

    I would be dating the first day in the Grave what we call Wednesday day night after 6pm which would be Thursday to them.

    Blessings.



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