Revelation 1:11 - Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
But he says, I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying to me, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
I wonder who that is!
Interesting, He said Alpha and Omega, but He also said the first and the last. That is the title of God found in Isaiah 41:4 where God told the children of Israel, I am the first, and I am the last. Isaiah 41:12 is another verse of where that exact phrase comes from.
I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what you see, write in a book, and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia;
And we've seen those seven churches. But it is interesting, this is the first part that He told him, write what thou hast seen. So, what you see, write it down and send it to the seven churches. But it is interesting, and we will see when we study these seven messages, is that this is one letter going to each of the seven churches, the church unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
These are not seven different messages that are going to go out to each one of these churches. Everybody's going to get all the other messages. And the Lord's going to say after the message to each church, and He's talking about the blessing of those who hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches, plural.
This section in Daniel that you mention starts with Daniel 12:4 and Ezekiel 2:9-10, Isaiah 29:11 are key verses. The book was sealed but as you alluded to, we see the seal being broken in Revelation Chapter 5.
The things that John wrote were the events he actually got to see. John got to see the future happen as it was happening. Also, I agree with you that the bible clearly shows the deity of Jesus Christ, and that He is God indeed, Amen!
Revelation 1:17 - And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as a dead man. I would too!
In Daniel Chapter 10 Verses 8 and 9, Daniel did the same thing. When he saw this vision of Christ, he fell down as he was dead. He said I had no strength in my body. I couldn't move. In Ezekiel 1:28, Ezekiel sees the vision and he falls down as a dead man.
In Acts 24:10, Paul describing as he was going along the Damascus road, he said the light of Christ appeared to them, and the whole group fell over as dead men. That's what it's like to be in the presence of Christ! And when I saw him, I fell at His feet as a dead man. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
In Daniel 10:10, the Lord did the same thing. He came over and He put His hand on me, and this is what He said, fear not, literally, stop fearing! Fear not; I am the first and the last: Again, the designation of God, found in Isaiah 41:4, and Isaiah 48:12.
Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
I am He that lives, and this is another designation of God found in Psalm 84:2, and Joshua 3:10. I am He that lives. God presents Himself to the Jews as the living God. I am He that lives, and was dead; literally and became dead, and behold, I am living forevermore, His resurrection, His eternalness.
Amen; and I have the keys of hell and of death. Keys are a symbol of authority. Those who were in charge of the temple had the keys to the temple. We'll see later on that the Lord will be in control of hell and death.
I pray that I do not offend you, brother. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, and God placed Him above all, not just humans, until the last enemy is destroyed. Jesus is worthy of these titles. We do not see the apostles teaching that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, in Acts 3:13, where Peter says, "the God of our fathers hath glorified His Son."
In Revelation 1:17-18 says "he that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive for evermore". God is Spirit and eternal, and can not change, nor even any part of Him die. God sent His Son into this world to be the propitiation for our sins, 1 John 4:10. The law was for man, who could be tempted, Hebrews 4:14, God cannot be tempted James 1:13. Man had to live a perfect life, obedient to the Father, and die that through Jesus's blood, we have redemption, Ephesians 1:7, God is a Spirit.
The phrase "son of man" in the Old Testament is a metaphor or idiom referring to a human being or a mere mortal. God addressed Ezekiel as "Son of Man"; Jesus referred to Himself 80 times as the "Son of Man." In Daniel 7:13-14, Daniel was shown a vision of Jesus after His resurrection ascending to heaven, to His Father, Ephesians 1:17-23, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. God does not have a God, 2 Cor. 11:31, Eph. 1:3, Eph. 4:6, 1 Pet. 1:3.
Daniel 10, this is not a vision of Christ; it is an angel, Gabriel. This chapter shows us that battles in the spiritual realm are going on that we do not see or hear. Daniel had prayed and was mourning about what he had been shown would happen to his people and Jerusalem in Daniel 9. In Daniel 10:12-14, Gabriel tells Daniel why he was late coming; this is not a vision of Christ.
I will leave it there; I hope you understand my reply is in love.
Yes, I realize that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. We see that in Revelation 3:14. This is one of the verses that is used by those (especially the JW's) who deny the deity of Christ. They claim that Jesus is a created being. I strongly disagree with that.
I agree that "God does not have a God." I agree because there are no other gods besides the one true God who consists of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all three being eternal.
Brother, you don't have to worry about offending me. You never have in the past and you haven't now. It does not offend me in the least bit that you believe differently than I do. Concerning the deity of Jesus Christ, your mind is already made, up as is mine. So, with that being said, I see no point in trying to convince each other one way or another.
I believe in the deity of Christ. I also believe that Jesus is God because there are so many places in scripture that teach that He is indeed God. We have discussed this several times in the past, and I provided scripture to show why I believe the way I do. Jesus is not God the Father. He's God the Son. The bible clearly tells us that we are only to worship God, and yet Jesus was worshipped, and not once did He ever rebuke those who worshipped Him.
Thank you for sharing these verses. If I may also share this with you, in John 8:24, in the Greek text it does not have the word "he." In our English translation, the translators for some reason put the word he in there which is somewhat misleading.
But in the Greek text, John 8:24 just says EGO EIMI meaning "I AM." It is the name of God in Exodus 3:14 which you mentioned. In the Septuagint, the Greek OT, the same words EGO EIMI are used for God in Exodus 3:14. As you probably are aware, there are other places in the NT where Jesus referred to Himself as "I AM."
Thank you for your reply. I understand and know the verses you have shared. Many on this site share the same understanding as you, and if we differ, we should be inspired to study, not to prove we are right and you are wrong, but in search of the truth. My understanding is that Jesus was the beginning of the creation of God, in the plan of God, Revelation 3:14.
Jesus was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1 Peter 1:20. Everything started with Jesus; God, knowing the end from the beginning, says things that have not been as they have been, Romans 4:17.
We should pray and clear our minds of preconceived biases, as Jesus said, "he who has ears to hear, let him hear." John 8:24 is the same with us today, if we do not believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, who God sent and He shed His blood and died for us, we will die in our sins, John 3:16, Acts 4:12, Romans 10:9.
Revelation 1:16 - And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: That's taken from Isaiah 49:2. It is also mentioned later in Revelation Chapter 19 at the second coming of Christ, where it says out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations, and He shall rule them with a rod of iron, and tread them in a winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty God.
We don't expect to see a literal sword. That's the Jewish way of saying how powerful God's word is. It's like a sword that cuts right through you. We know in Hebrews 4:12, and again, another Jewish literature letter, it says for the word of God is quick, that is, living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and it is a discerner, that is, a critic, of the thoughts and motivations of the heart.
That's how powerful God's word is. We're not talking about quoting the bible. We're talking about the truth that God's word has. It cuts deep. It's powerful. Out of the Lord's mouth went a sharp two-edged sword.
And His countenance, that is, His face, was as the sun shineth in his strength. The Greek phrase expresses looking straight into the sun at high noon on the brightest day of the year. Wow, what a sight!
That's from Judges 5:31. That's who Jesus Christ is!
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. That's in Daniel 7:9. It denotes purity.
And His eyes were as a flame of fire. That's found in Daniel 10:6. In fact, in Daniel 10:6, he has pretty much the same vision. He saw the same Christ, but his is scarier than John's. Daniel doesn't say flames of fire; he says His eyes were burning like torches.
Revelation 1:15 - And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And His feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. Brass was used in the Old Testament for the altars. And where all the sacrifices, and where God's judgment was to be poured out, it was to be made of brass. That's found in Exodus 38:1-7. His feet for judgment!
And His voice as the sound of many waters, taken from Ezekiel 43:2. He sounded like a trumpet when He started. Now He sounds like many waters, that deep sound like the waves coming up and crashing onto the rocks, and here is this deep voice now speaking like the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:12 - And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
He says and I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, here's what I saw, he saw two things: I saw seven golden candlesticks; Now everywhere where you see the word candlesticks in the book of Revelation, it's literally the word LUCHNIA, which means lampstand. It's not a candlestick. It is a lampstand.
Revelation 1:13 - And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
And in the midst of the seven lampstands one like unto the Son of man. That's the phrase taken from Daniel 7:13. He's called the Son of Man. Again, that's a title. The Son of Man is someone who is over the human race. He's in charge of the human race.
Son of God, who we think is the second person of the trinity, but that's why the Jewish people got upset with Jesus, for saying He was the Son of God, because they know the Son of God is God. Whoever the Son of God is, He's in charge of God. Whoever the Son of Man is, He's in charge of the humans.
Check out this description:
He was clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps, or chest, with a golden sash. That's taken from Daniel Chapter 10 Verse 5. That's the priestly garment of the Old Testament. He's dressed like a priest.
Revelation 1:11 - Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
But he says, I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying to me, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
I wonder who that is!
Interesting, He said Alpha and Omega, but He also said the first and the last. That is the title of God found in Isaiah 41:4 where God told the children of Israel, I am the first, and I am the last. Isaiah 41:12 is another verse of where that exact phrase comes from.
I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what you see, write in a book, and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia;
And we've seen those seven churches. But it is interesting, this is the first part that He told him, write what thou hast seen. So, what you see, write it down and send it to the seven churches. But it is interesting, and we will see when we study these seven messages, is that this is one letter going to each of the seven churches, the church unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
These are not seven different messages that are going to go out to each one of these churches. Everybody's going to get all the other messages. And the Lord's going to say after the message to each church, and He's talking about the blessing of those who hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches, plural.
So, it's not just one church. It's all of them!
In Daniel 12:8-9 we see where Daniel was told to go thy way for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
The book of Revelation is not a sealed book.
It's rendered in signs that are symbolic of reality.
John was given a outline to "Write the things WHICH THOU HAST SEEN, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
The things that John has seen is in chapter one.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ!
The unveiling of Jesus Christ.
One thing that is definitely being revealed here is what has been collectively being shown throughout the Bible!
The deity of Jesus Christ!!!
Christ is the Almighty!
Christ is God!
God bless you Brother.
This section in Daniel that you mention starts with Daniel 12:4 and Ezekiel 2:9-10, Isaiah 29:11 are key verses. The book was sealed but as you alluded to, we see the seal being broken in Revelation Chapter 5.
The things that John wrote were the events he actually got to see. John got to see the future happen as it was happening. Also, I agree with you that the bible clearly shows the deity of Jesus Christ, and that He is God indeed, Amen!
God Bless!!!
Revelation 1:17 - And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as a dead man. I would too!
In Daniel Chapter 10 Verses 8 and 9, Daniel did the same thing. When he saw this vision of Christ, he fell down as he was dead. He said I had no strength in my body. I couldn't move. In Ezekiel 1:28, Ezekiel sees the vision and he falls down as a dead man.
In Acts 24:10, Paul describing as he was going along the Damascus road, he said the light of Christ appeared to them, and the whole group fell over as dead men. That's what it's like to be in the presence of Christ! And when I saw him, I fell at His feet as a dead man. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
In Daniel 10:10, the Lord did the same thing. He came over and He put His hand on me, and this is what He said, fear not, literally, stop fearing! Fear not; I am the first and the last: Again, the designation of God, found in Isaiah 41:4, and Isaiah 48:12.
Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
I am He that lives, and this is another designation of God found in Psalm 84:2, and Joshua 3:10. I am He that lives. God presents Himself to the Jews as the living God. I am He that lives, and was dead; literally and became dead, and behold, I am living forevermore, His resurrection, His eternalness.
Amen; and I have the keys of hell and of death. Keys are a symbol of authority. Those who were in charge of the temple had the keys to the temple. We'll see later on that the Lord will be in control of hell and death.
I pray that I do not offend you, brother. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, and God placed Him above all, not just humans, until the last enemy is destroyed. Jesus is worthy of these titles. We do not see the apostles teaching that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, in Acts 3:13, where Peter says, "the God of our fathers hath glorified His Son."
In Revelation 1:17-18 says "he that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive for evermore". God is Spirit and eternal, and can not change, nor even any part of Him die. God sent His Son into this world to be the propitiation for our sins, 1 John 4:10. The law was for man, who could be tempted, Hebrews 4:14, God cannot be tempted James 1:13. Man had to live a perfect life, obedient to the Father, and die that through Jesus's blood, we have redemption, Ephesians 1:7, God is a Spirit.
The phrase "son of man" in the Old Testament is a metaphor or idiom referring to a human being or a mere mortal. God addressed Ezekiel as "Son of Man"; Jesus referred to Himself 80 times as the "Son of Man." In Daniel 7:13-14, Daniel was shown a vision of Jesus after His resurrection ascending to heaven, to His Father, Ephesians 1:17-23, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. God does not have a God, 2 Cor. 11:31, Eph. 1:3, Eph. 4:6, 1 Pet. 1:3.
Daniel 10, this is not a vision of Christ; it is an angel, Gabriel. This chapter shows us that battles in the spiritual realm are going on that we do not see or hear. Daniel had prayed and was mourning about what he had been shown would happen to his people and Jerusalem in Daniel 9. In Daniel 10:12-14, Gabriel tells Daniel why he was late coming; this is not a vision of Christ.
I will leave it there; I hope you understand my reply is in love.
bless,
RLW
isaiah 9:6 jesus is god!
Yes, I realize that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. We see that in Revelation 3:14. This is one of the verses that is used by those (especially the JW's) who deny the deity of Christ. They claim that Jesus is a created being. I strongly disagree with that.
I agree that "God does not have a God." I agree because there are no other gods besides the one true God who consists of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all three being eternal.
Brother, you don't have to worry about offending me. You never have in the past and you haven't now. It does not offend me in the least bit that you believe differently than I do. Concerning the deity of Jesus Christ, your mind is already made, up as is mine. So, with that being said, I see no point in trying to convince each other one way or another.
I believe in the deity of Christ. I also believe that Jesus is God because there are so many places in scripture that teach that He is indeed God. We have discussed this several times in the past, and I provided scripture to show why I believe the way I do. Jesus is not God the Father. He's God the Son. The bible clearly tells us that we are only to worship God, and yet Jesus was worshipped, and not once did He ever rebuke those who worshipped Him.
Blessings to you in Christ our Saviour!
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."
John 8:58
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
John 8:24
"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."
Blessings
Thank you for sharing these verses. If I may also share this with you, in John 8:24, in the Greek text it does not have the word "he." In our English translation, the translators for some reason put the word he in there which is somewhat misleading.
But in the Greek text, John 8:24 just says EGO EIMI meaning "I AM." It is the name of God in Exodus 3:14 which you mentioned. In the Septuagint, the Greek OT, the same words EGO EIMI are used for God in Exodus 3:14. As you probably are aware, there are other places in the NT where Jesus referred to Himself as "I AM."
Again, thank you for sharing these verses.
God Bless!!!
Thank you for your reply. I understand and know the verses you have shared. Many on this site share the same understanding as you, and if we differ, we should be inspired to study, not to prove we are right and you are wrong, but in search of the truth. My understanding is that Jesus was the beginning of the creation of God, in the plan of God, Revelation 3:14.
Jesus was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1 Peter 1:20. Everything started with Jesus; God, knowing the end from the beginning, says things that have not been as they have been, Romans 4:17.
We should pray and clear our minds of preconceived biases, as Jesus said, "he who has ears to hear, let him hear." John 8:24 is the same with us today, if we do not believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, who God sent and He shed His blood and died for us, we will die in our sins, John 3:16, Acts 4:12, Romans 10:9.
God bless,
RLW
Revelation 1:16 - And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: That's taken from Isaiah 49:2. It is also mentioned later in Revelation Chapter 19 at the second coming of Christ, where it says out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations, and He shall rule them with a rod of iron, and tread them in a winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty God.
We don't expect to see a literal sword. That's the Jewish way of saying how powerful God's word is. It's like a sword that cuts right through you. We know in Hebrews 4:12, and again, another Jewish literature letter, it says for the word of God is quick, that is, living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and it is a discerner, that is, a critic, of the thoughts and motivations of the heart.
That's how powerful God's word is. We're not talking about quoting the bible. We're talking about the truth that God's word has. It cuts deep. It's powerful. Out of the Lord's mouth went a sharp two-edged sword.
And His countenance, that is, His face, was as the sun shineth in his strength. The Greek phrase expresses looking straight into the sun at high noon on the brightest day of the year. Wow, what a sight!
That's from Judges 5:31. That's who Jesus Christ is!
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. That's in Daniel 7:9. It denotes purity.
And His eyes were as a flame of fire. That's found in Daniel 10:6. In fact, in Daniel 10:6, he has pretty much the same vision. He saw the same Christ, but his is scarier than John's. Daniel doesn't say flames of fire; he says His eyes were burning like torches.
Revelation 1:15 - And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And His feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. Brass was used in the Old Testament for the altars. And where all the sacrifices, and where God's judgment was to be poured out, it was to be made of brass. That's found in Exodus 38:1-7. His feet for judgment!
And His voice as the sound of many waters, taken from Ezekiel 43:2. He sounded like a trumpet when He started. Now He sounds like many waters, that deep sound like the waves coming up and crashing onto the rocks, and here is this deep voice now speaking like the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:12 - And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
He says and I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, here's what I saw, he saw two things: I saw seven golden candlesticks; Now everywhere where you see the word candlesticks in the book of Revelation, it's literally the word LUCHNIA, which means lampstand. It's not a candlestick. It is a lampstand.
Revelation 1:13 - And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
And in the midst of the seven lampstands one like unto the Son of man. That's the phrase taken from Daniel 7:13. He's called the Son of Man. Again, that's a title. The Son of Man is someone who is over the human race. He's in charge of the human race.
Son of God, who we think is the second person of the trinity, but that's why the Jewish people got upset with Jesus, for saying He was the Son of God, because they know the Son of God is God. Whoever the Son of God is, He's in charge of God. Whoever the Son of Man is, He's in charge of the humans.
Check out this description:
He was clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps, or chest, with a golden sash. That's taken from Daniel Chapter 10 Verse 5. That's the priestly garment of the Old Testament. He's dressed like a priest.
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