And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
Here we notice a change of scene so we may infer from it that the ch.12 is inserted as the Spirit taking stock of the the word of God, the everlasting gospel as preached from the POV of the Word become flesh. Breaking open of seals, the Lamb prevailed over to this honour. In Ch.10 we have the the Angel of the Lord with the little book open reminding,"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."(10.7)Thereafter we shall have the Law taking the plug off so the Vanity Fair, preparing for 'the battle of that great day of God Almighty.'(16.14) Chapters 12 and 20 are thus interludes created to give us a breathing space before God leads the saints to the marriage supper of the Lamb. 'Blessed are they which are called' and who entered into the God's rest in faith." And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God."(19.9)
Significance of the Angel of the Lord standing upon the sea and the earth' is to indicate the separation shall be accordance with the Day Three in the Covenant. (Gen.1.9-10; Rev.21.1) In the new heaven and new earth, 'And there was no more sea'. Darkness has made the sea impossible so the beast 'and saw a beast rise up out of the sea," Is going to his doom. The sea which spawned is called the generation of vipers, "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt./There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked."(Isa.57.20-21) Who took away the peace? In order to quell their wickedness power was given to the rider on the red horse, "and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another. "it is a 'great' sword.
I only use KJV but "quote" it when I do . For reference . By memory mostly . But checkable .
All other versions while boasting in thrur "better understanding" actually prove they have less and in some cases don't know God .
They have corrupted the scriptures . Not that the Word of God can be corrupted but rather have taken the scriptures and subjected them to their own carnal thinking and "turned the truth into a lie".
The KJV on the other hand is quite another matter and has been tried tested and proved in the fires of much tribulation and has never been found wanting save by those who have " itching ears".
I agree with you also, that the KJV is the only bible to use. A few years ago, I read the Preface to one of the other bibles like the NIV. The group that put the bible together said in order to keep the peace among Christians they withheld information that was controversial. The KJV bible is very clear, even a child can understand it. Rev 22:14 KJV says "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city". Most of the other versions says: "Blessed are they that wash their robes." It's a completely different meaning than what God had intended. They are adding and taking away from God's word and will have to answer for it. They are baring false witness. Most of my friends use the NASB. They keep all 9 of God's 10 commandments and call themselves Christians. I keep all 10 Commandments including the only one God says to remember (the 7th day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God); They call me legalistic. The only difference between me and them is I love the Lord with all my heart, soul and mind. I have surrendered my life to God every morning and ask Him to sit on the throne of my life at all times. I take to heart where God says: "If you love Me keep My commandments." "If you say you love Me and do not keep My commandments, you are a liar." In Rev 21:8 liars will be thrown in to the lake of fire in the end. God is serious when He says something. It only took one bite from the apple back in the garden of Eden.
Thank you for your reply and it is a very sad thing that so many have laid aside the KJV . Having said that I must point out that the Lord had the most trouble with those who who's understanding of the Sabbath was at variance with the truth . That alone while not conclusive shouid be a warning bell to one and to all .
Paul pointed out that if one person held one day as Holy unto the Lord and another held all days Holy unto the Lord then let each be at peace with the other and let there be no contention . I therefore bring this up not for contention but for the truths sake .
While on the face of it your point about the commandment of the sabbath is sounds right ,there are too many other scriptures that you needs must reconcile with other than the ones you quoted .
A good concordance which will have all references to the sabbath will put the matter in its true light .
The Lord is my Sabbath . And are we not "to rest from our works even as God did from His "?
There is therefore a rest that the world does not know or can outside of Christ and it does not come by holding one day more than another for if a man holds that Saturday is the Sabbath in the UK what then of the man in another part of the world when it is not Saturday? Is he to be condemned because the sun has not risen on the same day as another.?
I am not questioning you love for the Lord nor would I seek to undermine it but the church of which I am a part is a body of many parts or members . That does not mean that we are to accept anything that a member might hold if it does not conform to " all scripture" But demonisations too often hold to parts of scripture but not all . You might reply that is what you said but as I have said before if you get a good concordance and look up sabbath then as all scripture is inspired by zGod and goid for correction reproof and instruction in righteousness etc then I'm sure He who so inspired what was written will faithfully give the understanding of it. GB
Gerald, please provide bible tests to backup your comments. Lots of what you said is not supported by the Bible. Here is my response in readers digest format. Give me your email; my study is longer.
Point One - Romans 14:5,6
You referred to comments from Romans 14:5,6 where it seems to say that it makes no difference to God which days we keep holy. Actually, these verses do not concern any days that must be kept holy. This is proved by the context of the entire chapter.
The Bible elsewhere teaches very plainly which days God made Holy and commands us to keep holy. They are found inGenesis 2:2,3, Exodus 20:8-11 and Leviticus 23.
Point 2 - "Sabbath" in Strongs Concordance
There were 116 verses containing the "Sabbath". I found one in Col 2:16 that mentioned "sabbath days" which is talking about feast days from the Mosiac law written by Moses.
Point 3 - You said the "Lord is my Sabbath".
I didn't find any reference in the whole Bible that says we can just ignore the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and call it "the Lord is my Sabbath". This seems to be a way out when you can't find Bible texts to false doctrine.
Point 4 - Sabbath in different time zones - come at different times.
That is a weak argument. The point I would make is that when the 7th day Sabbath arrives in whatever time zone, then it should be observed. This would be the fulfillment of God's requirements. Ex 20:12, John 14:15,16
Point 5 - Using parts of scripture instead of all to make a point.
I myself use the texts in context ( 2 Tim 3:16,17)). If you indeed have an open mind about what to actually know that God has for you in His word the Bible, He will send the Holy Spirit to interpret it for you, so you will understand what He expects from you.
Conclusion:
Most friends keep all 9 , call themselves Christians. I keep all 10, they call me legalistic! The Bible say I love the Lord. LOVE GOD + GRACE + FAITH = ETERNAL LIFE
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
Here we notice a change of scene so we may infer from it that the ch.12 is inserted as the Spirit taking stock of the the word of God, the everlasting gospel as preached from the POV of the Word become flesh. Breaking open of seals, the Lamb prevailed over to this honour. In Ch.10 we have the the Angel of the Lord with the little book open reminding,"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."(10.7)Thereafter we shall have the Law taking the plug off so the Vanity Fair, preparing for 'the battle of that great day of God Almighty.'(16.14) Chapters 12 and 20 are thus interludes created to give us a breathing space before God leads the saints to the marriage supper of the Lamb. 'Blessed are they which are called' and who entered into the God's rest in faith." And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God."(19.9)
Significance of the Angel of the Lord standing upon the sea and the earth' is to indicate the separation shall be accordance with the Day Three in the Covenant. (Gen.1.9-10; Rev.21.1) In the new heaven and new earth, 'And there was no more sea'. Darkness has made the sea impossible so the beast 'and saw a beast rise up out of the sea," Is going to his doom. The sea which spawned is called the generation of vipers, "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt./There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked."(Isa.57.20-21) Who took away the peace? In order to quell their wickedness power was given to the rider on the red horse, "and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another. "it is a 'great' sword.
I only use KJV but "quote" it when I do . For reference . By memory mostly . But checkable .
All other versions while boasting in thrur "better understanding" actually prove they have less and in some cases don't know God .
They have corrupted the scriptures . Not that the Word of God can be corrupted but rather have taken the scriptures and subjected them to their own carnal thinking and "turned the truth into a lie".
The KJV on the other hand is quite another matter and has been tried tested and proved in the fires of much tribulation and has never been found wanting save by those who have " itching ears".
GB
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Paul pointed out that if one person held one day as Holy unto the Lord and another held all days Holy unto the Lord then let each be at peace with the other and let there be no contention . I therefore bring this up not for contention but for the truths sake .
While on the face of it your point about the commandment of the sabbath is sounds right ,there are too many other scriptures that you needs must reconcile with other than the ones you quoted .
A good concordance which will have all references to the sabbath will put the matter in its true light .
The Lord is my Sabbath . And are we not "to rest from our works even as God did from His "?
There is therefore a rest that the world does not know or can outside of Christ and it does not come by holding one day more than another for if a man holds that Saturday is the Sabbath in the UK what then of the man in another part of the world when it is not Saturday? Is he to be condemned because the sun has not risen on the same day as another.?
I am not questioning you love for the Lord nor would I seek to undermine it but the church of which I am a part is a body of many parts or members . That does not mean that we are to accept anything that a member might hold if it does not conform to " all scripture" But demonisations too often hold to parts of scripture but not all . You might reply that is what you said but as I have said before if you get a good concordance and look up sabbath then as all scripture is inspired by zGod and goid for correction reproof and instruction in righteousness etc then I'm sure He who so inspired what was written will faithfully give the understanding of it. GB
Point One - Romans 14:5,6
You referred to comments from Romans 14:5,6 where it seems to say that it makes no difference to God which days we keep holy. Actually, these verses do not concern any days that must be kept holy. This is proved by the context of the entire chapter.
The Bible elsewhere teaches very plainly which days God made Holy and commands us to keep holy. They are found inGenesis 2:2,3, Exodus 20:8-11 and Leviticus 23.
Point 2 - "Sabbath" in Strongs Concordance
There were 116 verses containing the "Sabbath". I found one in Col 2:16 that mentioned "sabbath days" which is talking about feast days from the Mosiac law written by Moses.
Point 3 - You said the "Lord is my Sabbath".
I didn't find any reference in the whole Bible that says we can just ignore the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and call it "the Lord is my Sabbath". This seems to be a way out when you can't find Bible texts to false doctrine.
Point 4 - Sabbath in different time zones - come at different times.
That is a weak argument. The point I would make is that when the 7th day Sabbath arrives in whatever time zone, then it should be observed. This would be the fulfillment of God's requirements. Ex 20:12, John 14:15,16
Point 5 - Using parts of scripture instead of all to make a point.
I myself use the texts in context ( 2 Tim 3:16,17)). If you indeed have an open mind about what to actually know that God has for you in His word the Bible, He will send the Holy Spirit to interpret it for you, so you will understand what He expects from you.
Conclusion:
Most friends keep all 9 , call themselves Christians. I keep all 10, they call me legalistic! The Bible say I love the Lord. LOVE GOD + GRACE + FAITH = ETERNAL LIFE
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