In Matthew 24:15 Jesus says,"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation (neuter gender), spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, ..."
But if we read the respective verse in Daniel 9:27 in KJV it says, "27... and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, ..." which is different from what Matthew quotes.
If we read other English translations of the Hebrew text we also find variations such as
"...and at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation," (NIB) or
"...and on the wing of abominations will come the one who makes desolate" (NASB) or
"...and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment;..." (Mechon-Mamre) or
"... and on the kenaf (wing) of the abominations is one making desolate, ,..." (Orthodox Jewish Bible)
Apart from the NIV all other are quite different probably depending on how they translate or interprete the Hebrew Masoretic text.
So where did Matthew quote that verse from?
The Septuagint (grk version) says, "and upon the holy (place there shall be) the abomination of desolation,
The Latin Vulgate Bible (St Jerome's Bible) says "and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation" which is very close to the Septuagint.
So we see that Matthew quotes that verse from the Septuagint. Evangelists almost always quote OT verses from the grk translation, since they are addressing a grk-speaking audience.
More on the "abomination of disolation"spoken by Jesus on the mount of olives ... final part/conclusions
So let's make a summary of all events at the end, concerning the Jews.
From 33 AD onwards Jesus' crucifixion the times of the gentiles start. The church of all nations is formed. The Jews although accepted Christ in the beginning, as a nation quit altogether the new faith. So their time stops there at he end of the 62+7=69 weeks. The time of the gentiles starts. When does it end? It ends as soon as the "fulness of the gentiles be come in" (whatever that means. To me it means the rapture of the church). Then the last week of the Jews starts. It seems that for the first 3 1/2 years (till the midst of the week as it is written in Daniel) the antichrist will not bother them. But then he will try to sit on the Temple (which seems to be going to be rebuilt)) demanding to be worshiped as a God (see Thes 2:4, "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.) and asking people (gentiles and Jews) to get his mark
Apparently the Jews will not accept him and the period of their tribulation starts. The antichrist will invade Jerusalem (like Titus did in the past) and destroy it, eventually sitting in the Temple as a God (this seems to be the abomination of disolation).demanding to be worshipped. It is probably then that the Jews will turn to Christ for protection. They have heard the 2 prophets ( Rev 11:3-12) and the angel in the heaven who preaches the everlasting gospel ( Rev 14:6-7) so they get to believe in Christ now. As a beginning 144.000 will be sealed (believe), a number either literal or figurative. God will lead them to the desert for protection until Jesus 2nd coming(?) when all ends.
More on the "abomination of disolation"spoken by Jesus on the mount of olives ... pt 3
I have just substituted part of verse 27 by the Septuagint version since that is what Jesus said.
It says that after 62 weeks The Messiah the Prince (meaning Jesus Christ) will be cut ff (verse 26). And then goes to the last week (the last 7 years) when that person, which is called the prince, will come whose people will destroy the city (and the sanctuary and the sacrifices will cease in the midst of those 7 year period, and he will confirm his covenat with many for a week ,verses 26,27). And Daniel calls him the "abomination of disolation ". Obviously Daniel is not talking about Titus (or as some say Jesus) But his is talking about a person in the end times, the last week which Matthew places just before Jesus's 2nd coming. This is why the last week has been cut off the 70 weeks. Because there is a time gap from 33AD (the end of those 62 weeks) when Jesus was crucified all the way to the end times.
And that last week is for Jews not for the gentiles.
When do the time period of gentiles end? Rom 11:25-27, "25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins"
After the fulness of the gentiles come in. ... whoso readeth, let him understand.
More on the "abomination of disolation"spoken by Jesus on the mount of olives ... pt 2
But if we read Matthew 24:29 it says "29IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken"
So Matthew tranfers those events to the very end of times just before Jesus' second coming.
So the most logical explanation is that the abomination of disolation was Titus but the whole thing serves as a shadow of a future event which Matthew places at the end calling that person "the abomination of disolation". Who is that person? The antichrist? The beast? There can be no other explanation than that.
So lets go back to Daniels writtings. Daniel 9:24-27,
"24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, AND UPON THE HOLY PLACE THERE SHALL BE THE ABOMINATION OF DISOLATION, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
More on the "abomination of disolation" spoken by Jesus on the mount of olives... pt 1
Let's try to find out who or what is that abomination of disolation.
Let's start from Luke 21:20-24,
"And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
Going back to Matthew 24:15-22,
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
Matthew is describing the same events as Luke. So since Luke talks about obviously the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD, we conclude at first sight that the abomination of disolation is either Titus, the Roman general or generally the Romans.
In Matthew 24:15 Jesus says,"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation (neuter gender), spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, ..."
But if we read the respective verse in Daniel 9:27 in KJV it says, "27... and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, ..." which is different from what Matthew quotes.
If we read other English translations of the Hebrew text we also find variations such as
"...and at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation," (NIB) or
"...and on the wing of abominations will come the one who makes desolate" (NASB) or
"...and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment;..." (Mechon-Mamre) or
"... and on the kenaf (wing) of the abominations is one making desolate, ,..." (Orthodox Jewish Bible)
Apart from the NIV all other are quite different probably depending on how they translate or interprete the Hebrew Masoretic text.
So where did Matthew quote that verse from?
The Septuagint (grk version) says, "and upon the holy (place there shall be) the abomination of desolation,
The Latin Vulgate Bible (St Jerome's Bible) says "and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation" which is very close to the Septuagint.
So we see that Matthew quotes that verse from the Septuagint. Evangelists almost always quote OT verses from the grk translation, since they are addressing a grk-speaking audience.
GBU
So let's make a summary of all events at the end, concerning the Jews.
From 33 AD onwards Jesus' crucifixion the times of the gentiles start. The church of all nations is formed. The Jews although accepted Christ in the beginning, as a nation quit altogether the new faith. So their time stops there at he end of the 62+7=69 weeks. The time of the gentiles starts. When does it end? It ends as soon as the "fulness of the gentiles be come in" (whatever that means. To me it means the rapture of the church). Then the last week of the Jews starts. It seems that for the first 3 1/2 years (till the midst of the week as it is written in Daniel) the antichrist will not bother them. But then he will try to sit on the Temple (which seems to be going to be rebuilt)) demanding to be worshiped as a God (see Thes 2:4, "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.) and asking people (gentiles and Jews) to get his mark
Apparently the Jews will not accept him and the period of their tribulation starts. The antichrist will invade Jerusalem (like Titus did in the past) and destroy it, eventually sitting in the Temple as a God (this seems to be the abomination of disolation).demanding to be worshipped. It is probably then that the Jews will turn to Christ for protection. They have heard the 2 prophets ( Rev 11:3-12) and the angel in the heaven who preaches the everlasting gospel ( Rev 14:6-7) so they get to believe in Christ now. As a beginning 144.000 will be sealed (believe), a number either literal or figurative. God will lead them to the desert for protection until Jesus 2nd coming(?) when all ends.
Well, I believe more or less it is right.
GBU
Very well laid out!
Thanks and GBU.
I have just substituted part of verse 27 by the Septuagint version since that is what Jesus said.
It says that after 62 weeks The Messiah the Prince (meaning Jesus Christ) will be cut ff (verse 26). And then goes to the last week (the last 7 years) when that person, which is called the prince, will come whose people will destroy the city (and the sanctuary and the sacrifices will cease in the midst of those 7 year period, and he will confirm his covenat with many for a week ,verses 26,27). And Daniel calls him the "abomination of disolation ". Obviously Daniel is not talking about Titus (or as some say Jesus) But his is talking about a person in the end times, the last week which Matthew places just before Jesus's 2nd coming. This is why the last week has been cut off the 70 weeks. Because there is a time gap from 33AD (the end of those 62 weeks) when Jesus was crucified all the way to the end times.
And that last week is for Jews not for the gentiles.
When do the time period of gentiles end? Rom 11:25-27, "25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins"
After the fulness of the gentiles come in. ... whoso readeth, let him understand.
GBU
But if we read Matthew 24:29 it says "29IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken"
So Matthew tranfers those events to the very end of times just before Jesus' second coming.
So the most logical explanation is that the abomination of disolation was Titus but the whole thing serves as a shadow of a future event which Matthew places at the end calling that person "the abomination of disolation". Who is that person? The antichrist? The beast? There can be no other explanation than that.
So lets go back to Daniels writtings. Daniel 9:24-27,
"24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, AND UPON THE HOLY PLACE THERE SHALL BE THE ABOMINATION OF DISOLATION, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
... see pt 3
Let's try to find out who or what is that abomination of disolation.
Let's start from Luke 21:20-24,
"And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
Going back to Matthew 24:15-22,
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
Matthew is describing the same events as Luke. So since Luke talks about obviously the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD, we conclude at first sight that the abomination of disolation is either Titus, the Roman general or generally the Romans.
...see pt 2
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