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  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Judgment: How to proclaim truth in love

    PRoverbs 29:1

    He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

    The world; in blues music in particular likes to justify murder of an unfaithful spouse caught cheating; and this brings out a concept of justified indignation and therefore sympathy for the killer and the act of rage expressed. Proverbs 6:35 states it well: He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts. That verse of course relates to a jealous spouse going after the lover; but other scriptures in the O.T. laws make no bones about stoning the adulterers ( Leviticus 20:10 as one example).

    As seen with the illustration of the woman caught in adultery; of course we see that His grace can supercede men carrying out what is in the law. We see several things here; Jesus never said that punishment douldn't be enacted; and told the woman to sin no more. We also see that the other party (the man involved) wasn't brought there so it was an incomplete testimony. My point in bringing this up is to show that the self righteousness which motivated this act was clearly a preplanned trap to trick Jesus and therefore supposedly justify those who brought this woman. They realized their own sin and walked away when Christ challenged them which is profound. One would hope that this would result in a number of them coming to true repentance and remorse over their sins; as God clearly opened their eyes to supernaturally prevent them from killing her.

    What it shows also is that men should have God's standards both personally as well as corporately to enforce laws over the populace. Without this people are oppressed; we see this with dictatorships throughout the world.

    In representing the King of glory; it is His Kingdom we are to focus on not some utopia on earth. Overall; a covenant with God to believe Him and REPRESENT Him to the world is a grave matter.
  • Gerald - In Reply - 1 week ago
    He gave both the accusers and the accused time to" consider their ways" the woman redeemed the time given her and repented . The accused seeking to be justified by the law were answered according to the law and so were convicted by theur own consciences.

    All parties were guilty under the law .

    When the Lord wrote with His finger in the ground . There are only 5 occasions in the Bible where it mentions the finger of God that aI am aware of .

    In Egypt "This is the finger of God we can't do this ,let them go"

    " The finger of a man's hand "wrote in the plaster at Balthazar's feast .

    The finger of God wrote the 10 commandments on the two tablets .

    " If I by the finger of God do cast out devils No this that the kingdom of God has come nigh unto thee "

    And here in this account in John 8.

    All of them are in the context of the law and of judgement .

    So it was here also .

    God knows our frame it is but dust .

    If God shouid mark iniquity who would stand?

    No matter how ' deep' the dust it was still dust?

    Much of what people call grace today is a disgrace . Men are not convicted of their sin first .

    Some already are perhaps but there is in many No deep conviction of sin .

    If you don't preach the law there is none for by the law there comes that conviction ( Romans)

    The woman was given time . She already knew she was as good as dead . But in her case when the Lord had said nothing it gave a a ray of hope and she began to THINK!

    The accusers were give; time also . But did not stop to consider

    Jesus said nothing as if He had not heard .

    We are not debtors to the flesh and are not obliged to answer the worlds insistent questions when they want it or even how they want it . We must always give ourselves time also.



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